well which is stronger?? :buttrock:

shinku haddouken

Kamehameha :buttrock:

Definitely Goku's Kameha

hum..........don't create a topic in the gewneral section if it has nuthin to do with the game.........post that in the random insanity or general section

yeah,,but shinku hadoken :D

[quote:post_uid0="Ludacris"]hum..........don't create a topic in the gewneral section if it has nuthin to do with the game.........post that in the random insanity or general section[/quote]
no he can post it here since this is in the NON-XvsSF Related section...and anyway probably the shinku-hadoken

Depends on the time your talking about. Because some of goku's kamehameha's were pretty weak. So your gonna have to be more specific. Just don't let tark see this or he'll give you a 1 page post on why shinku-hadouken is stronger.

......................................... Shinkuu...... no kamehameha....... or maybe shinkuu hadoken.....
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Talk later :D

Dont hate ludacris

just let it be dude

you all know flipen kamahamaha is the strongest! :angry:

Kamehameha.

Well in the streetfighter Alpha movie dark ryu luanched a hadoken that destroy half the bulding he hit. And when he even was normal ryu and did his Shinkuu Hadoken he destoryed or put a big hole in the enemy. Most of the time Goku didn't put a hole in his unless he really meant it like with cell. But goku does his kamehameha so dam slow. I mean if he did that on ryu by the time he get's to hame Ryu would all ready start his Shinkuu hadoken, in gokus face. But if it was normal ryu against normal goku, u really dont know. if Evil Ryu against ssjgoku. Now that will be something to see. So I cant really say which is stronger they are just both so good. :biggrin:

Overall counting all facts about both sf and the db series. DB will absoloutely slaughter Sf. And if you've seen db as long as I have you'd know that Goku is capable of punching a whole through an opponents stomach. Just like he did it to piccolo In Db. Overall goku's kamehameha is stronger.

Well, this is judging from BOTH at their maximum ever..

Even thou I don't wanna say this, but Kamehameha is stronger, because if you think about it, the TurtleWave can destroy a Planet, but The Shinkuu can only destroy a person!

[quote:post_uid0="MIG"][quote:post_uid0="Ludacris"]hum..........don't create a topic in the gewneral section if it has nuthin to do with the game.........post that in the random insanity or general section[/quote]
no he can post it here since this is in the NON-XvsSF Related section...and anyway probably the shinku-hadoken[/quote]
nah cuz before it was in the general comment I made a mistake back there......anyway........I don't hate U it,s just that next time post those kind of topics in the non related part of the forum so that they don't have to move the topics all the time....... ;)

"kamahameha"

kamahameha

If Ryu and Ken Masters sync in fighting styles,and Ryu becomes Evil Ryu.Also if Ryu where to become part machine like Akuma did in the game "Marvel Super Heros vs Street Fighters".

THEN and ONLY THEN do I think Ryu's beam could compare to goku's.

Also what time period is this.

Goku as a kid...Ryu is stronger.(Dragonball time period)

When goku returned to earth after being killed by Piccolo he learned "King Kai Fist" he was stronger than Ryu then and so on....(DragonballZ time period)

kamehameha

It depends on the minimum amount of energy or ki usable with each attack, not the user. What if Goku were to use a Shinkuu Hadouken? We have no idea how much damage it would do. It could destroy an ant, or an entire solor system. And Ryu with the Kamehameha. The same goes for him. Well, maybe not. We know the Goku, any other "Z" fighter fo rthat matter(trust me, Chaozu is stronger than Ryu, even if he's the weakest member of the team, or maybe Yajirobe is instead...nevermind) is stronger than Ryu, so they have much more potential using an SF attack than the SFer themselves be cause of their level of strength. Or maybe I'm wrong, but it doesn't always count on the user.

its got to be the kamahameha cuse goku can blow up worlds :buttrock: and ryus small laser can only hurt ppl :alien:

Kamehameha all the way.

[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"]If Ryu and Ken Masters sync in fighting styles,and Ryu becomes Evil Ryu.Also if Ryu where to become part machine like Akuma did in the game "Marvel Super Heros vs Street Fighters".

THEN and ONLY THEN do I think Ryu's beam could compare to goku's.

Also what time period is this.

Goku as a kid...Ryu is stronger.(Dragonball time period)

When goku returned to earth after being killed by Piccolo he learned "King Kai Fist" he was stronger than Ryu then and so on....(DragonballZ time period)[/quote]
"TarkanX himself said that Ryu wouldn't even be able to take out Piccolo.

And Goku's Kamehameha has the ability to destroy earth after he completes training with Kaiousamma. When he's fighting Vegeta, Vegeta's Gyarikku-Ho had the ability to destroy earth, and Goku countered it with a Kaiouken x4 Kamehameha. Upon arriving on Namek, he could prolly destroy earth with a regular Kamehameha. At the end of DBZ, even a normal energy dan could do the job. Ryu's Shinkuu MIGHT compare to the Kamehameha that Goku used against Raditzu, but no higher than that."

If Ryu and Ken Masters sync in fighting styles,and Ryu becomes Evil Ryu.Also if Ryu where to become part machine like Akuma did in the game "Marvel Super Heros vs Street Fighters".

THEN and ONLY THEN do I think Ryu's beam could compare to goku's.

Also what time period is this.

Goku as a kid...Ryu is stronger.(Dragonball time period)

When goku returned to earth after being killed by Piccolo he learned "King Kai Fist" he was stronger than Ryu then and so on....(DragonballZ time period)

.ahem* welcome back Joe.
and Karnage you didn't fully read read and understand my post.

I stated Ryu could defeat Goku's blast before the training with King Kia.

[quote:post_uid0="MasterX05"]Well in the streetfighter Alpha movie dark ryu luanched a hadoken that destroy half the bulding he hit. And when he even was normal ryu and did his Shinkuu Hadoken he destoryed or put a big hole in the enemy. Most of the time Goku didn't put a hole in his unless he really meant it like with cell. But goku does his kamehameha so dam slow. I mean if he did that on ryu by the time he get's to hame Ryu would all ready start his Shinkuu hadoken, in gokus face. But if it was normal ryu against normal goku, u really dont know. if Evil Ryu against ssjgoku. Now that will be something to see. So I cant really say which is stronger they are just both so good. :biggrin:[/quote]
eeeeeeee! wrong. Kamehame is da best. The Kameheme doesn't have to be that long, man. Kamehame can be done fast too, but it won't be that powerful. heheh... I don't really know how big Ryu's fireball can go, but I haven't seen him do it that big as DBZ's in their episode. hehehe... :laughlong:

Dangit, Joe, you have your names all wrong, and a few Kame Hame Ha types that don't even exist as separate types! The "Fatality" version is called the Chou Kame Hame Ha, the Max Power Kame Hame Ha is only used by Jackie Chun to destroy the moon, Hana Gaeshi Kame Hame Ha is just a use of the Kame Hame Ha and not a separate type, Renzoku Kame Hame Ha is used while Goku is training in the Gravity room on his way to Namek (he fires it, and while it is being fired he moves his arms and changes its path to try to meet up with another fireball spinning about), the full name of the next one is Shunkan Idou Kame Hame Ha, and the Waza Kame Hame Ha isn't its own type of Kame Hame Ha, either.

<span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>Dan takes a breather for a moment.</span>

The only ones that you really got right were the Waiting Kame Hame Ha and the Ashi Kara Kame Hame Ha, and that is used but once in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai. The Magura Kame Hame Ha is actually a variation on the Renzoku Kame Hame Ha.

Now then... the answer is simple. Shinkuu Hadouken, in the story, is a single fireball. A brief burst of energy. Kame Hame Ha is a beam of continuous energy. The Kame Hame Ha could overtake any single fireball like the Shinkuu Hadouken.

it is the kamehameha sadly....

[quote:post_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]Dangit, Joe, you have your names all wrong, and a few Kame Hame Ha types that don't even exist as separate types! The "Fatality" version is called the Chou Kame Hame Ha, the Max Power Kame Hame Ha is only used by Jackie Chun to destroy the moon, Hana Gaeshi Kame Hame Ha is just a use of the Kame Hame Ha and not a separate type, Renzoku Kame Hame Ha is used while Goku is training in the Gravity room on his way to Namek (he fires it, and while it is being fired he moves his arms and changes its path to try to meet up with another fireball spinning about), the full name of the next one is Shunkan Idou Kame Hame Ha, and the Waza Kame Hame Ha isn't its own type of Kame Hame Ha, either.

<span style='font-size:7pt;line-height:100%'>Dan takes a breather for a moment.</span>

The only ones that you really got right were the Waiting Kame Hame Ha and the Ashi Kara Kame Hame Ha, and that is used but once in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai. The Magura Kame Hame Ha is actually a variation on the Renzoku Kame Hame Ha.

Now then... the answer is simple. Shinkuu Hadouken, in the story, is a single fireball. A brief burst of energy. Kame Hame Ha is a beam of continuous energy. The Kame Hame Ha could overtake any single fireball like the Shinkuu Hadouken.[/quote]
Actually, Hibiki, they're all stated names. They've also got their own differences and unique characteristics. For example:

The Waza Kamehameha could only be used by pre-Saikyo no Senshi Gohan, because one of the characteristics of Waza Kamehameha is that it taps into your unused potential ki.

Hana Gaeshi kamehameha is a stated kamehameha type, as is the "fatality" kamehameha and the max power and the Chaou. All eleven of them are STATED Kamehameha types, so they can't be disputed. Each of them has their own unique characteristics. This is accepted by gurus such as myself, TarkanX, Juuhachigou, Enhanced Frieza, Winduril, and Tenshinhan, as well as stated by Akira Toriyama himself.

So nyah!

:buttrock:

Tell me what manga volumes those are in, and I will see for myself. You must've read a bad translation or something.

[quote:post_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]Tell me what manga volumes those are in, and I will see for myself. You must've read a bad translation or something.[/quote]
For the most part, attack names are not stated in the Manga (with the exception of Kamehameha, Masenko-ha, Makankosappo, Gyarriku-ho, etc). Attacks with odd names (like the kamehameha names, names for Furiza's attacks, and other attacks by the Z fighters) are all listed in the Daizenshuu (the attack list and character list are the only accurate things in there). So go check it out.

The Daizenshyu? It has been a few years since I checked... perhaps memory fails me on the extra versions. I need to consult it again, I guess. Is it DBZ Daizenshyu 7?

Hmm....King Kai Fist X2,X3,X4....etc.

Hmm amazing how Goku stated he might explode from using that power inhancing tech.....but he never did....

kamehameha.......kicks are harder

[quote:post_uid0="asshole"]Well, this is judging from BOTH at their maximum ever..

Even thou I don't wanna say this, but Kamehameha is stronger, because if you think about it, the TurtleWave can destroy a Planet, but The Shinkuu can only destroy a person![/quote]
not really..only damage like 25% of life