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asshole 07-04-2005 12:47 PM

I love how almost everybody at one Point was into saying "flip THA GOVERNMENT", but goes to see tha foreworks every year on 4th of July and feel like a kid again!

CV--
" 50 Stars to blind your eyes,
13 striPes to hyPnotize. "




I realise I may get banned, but ohhhhh well! ;]

Dark_Paladin_X 07-04-2005 01:03 PM

eventhough i'm canadian...the same can be said about some of us as well...

they say...the government is takign our money...but go right to Mel Lastman Square for the fireworks..

it doesn't really work does it? lol

marvel911 07-04-2005 01:21 PM

So missing out on the fireworks shows how rebelious you are towards the government does it?

Dark_Paladin_X 07-04-2005 01:39 PM

Don't take what i said the wrong way.

it could mean that...but for some people (like me) think that firewaorks are oast their time...like it's kinda (not saying it is) for kids..it's not as amusing anymore.

but that's what i think. others likely think different.




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marvel911 07-04-2005 01:44 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Dark_Paladin_X"]Don't take what i said the wrong way.

it could mean that...but for some people (like me) think that firewaorks are oast their time...like it's kinda (not saying it is) for kids..it's not as amusing anymore.

but that's what i think. others likely think different.
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Yeah well in my city most kids see it as a chance to get drunk in a field.

Virtual Fighter 07-04-2005 02:13 PM

I'm so punk that my neighborhood doesn't allow fireworks to go off, but no body cares and we do it anyway!

That's what america is all about.

And to top off the spirit of american, i'm reading the narrative of frederick douglass, just to remind me how much america sucks.

Elena 07-04-2005 02:34 PM

Wow, I'm sick and tired of you VF saying how much America sucks. America may have it's flaws but there's freedom of speech. If it sucks so flipin' much then why don't you leave...you don't seem to do anything but complain like an ass. I dare you to leave to somewhere like Korea and say how much Korea sucks and see how long you live.

Wow, I read the Narrative of Frederick Douglass too and he doesn't complain he actually does something. He worked for the Underground Railroad. And when he got beat up by a bunch of white sailors he didn't just say "Aw, poo America sucks. I hate it. I'm going to my room and whine about it." No, he didn't. He did something about it...he was so inspirational Abe Lincoln noticed him. And he helped changed the nation.

America has came a long way from there. And you only look at all the flaws and you do not see the long journey it has gone through. If you would like we go back a couple centuries back to slavery...America would truly suck then. Things take time if you are not willing to wait then do something about.

As for the fireworks. Yeah it really does suck that some people only see it as "Ooo pretty fireworks" but that's mostly because they are ignorant. The bad thing about America is that we make every single holiday a commerical holiday...and people forget the true meanings of things.

Virtual Fighter 07-04-2005 04:28 PM

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Wow, I'm sick and tired of you VF saying how much America sucks. America may have it's flaws but there's freedom of speech. If it sucks so flipin' much then why don't you leave...you don't seem to do anything but complain like an ass. I dare you to leave to somewhere like Korea and say how much Korea sucks and see how long you live.
How hypocrtical of you to say how America is great because we have freedom of speech, then try to silence mine by trying to ship me off to some other country.

That's a bunch of bullpoop. America was based on the ideals that we have the write to say we're discontent, and not only do we have the opportunity to say it, but we should say. It's not based on narcessism, which is all we see now. Everywhere we turn it's a flag, or the president, or some national monument.

We're viewing America as the symbols that represent it, and not the ideals and meaning those symbols were founded for.

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Wow, I read the Narrative of Frederick Douglass too and he doesn't complain he actually does something. He worked for the Underground Railroad. And when he got beat up by a bunch of white sailors he didn't just say "Aw, poo America sucks. I hate it. I'm going to my room and whine about it." No, he didn't. He did something about it...he was so inspirational Abe Lincoln noticed him. And he helped changed the nation.
He did something, yes. He tried to change it by what? Going on a shooting spree? No, he complained. He wrote editorials, made speeches, and most of all, SHOWED his discontent.

He helped change a nation, yeah, a fliped up one.

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America has come (not came) a long way since then (not from there). And you only look at all the flaws and you do not see the long journey it has gone through. If you would like we go back a couple centuries back to slavery...America would truly suck then. Things take time if you are not willing to wait then do something about.
I am doing something. I'm showing my discontent.

Unlike you which is so blinded by the Fox news-narcessistic-we're #1 BULLpoop that you sit back and take the "lub is err leeb it!! Yeee haa less kill us sum hippees!" stance on everything.

What's so great about America now? We've got a president we didn't vote for, we've got a war that we don't want, we've got police who are bashing your head in at the drop of a sign, we've got racial profiling like there's no tommarow, people getting their fundamental rights taken away ala logans run, and we've got the highest poverty rates since the '80s.

This isn't my America. Hell, it's not even Mexico.

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As for the fireworks. Yeah it really does suck that some people only see it as "Ooo pretty fireworks" but that's mostly because they are ignorant. The bad thing about America is that we make every single holiday a commerical holiday...and people forget the true meanings of things.
Yeah, like freedom of speech. Or are you so "ignorant" you've forgot how to use it?

I'll give you a homework assignment.

Tell me one decade you think it truley fitting of "great", or celebration. One decade in American history you think is without flaw. How about one president? One president who didn't do anything to harm America. I'll make it even easier, one year. One year where America didn't flip over someone or something, and is truley deserving of the narcessism is exsudes.

America is the nation most full or itself in the entire world. It'd be fine is we could really pull it off, it'd be fine if we really are "the best".


It'd be fine if it were true.

asshole 07-04-2005 08:47 PM

[quote:post_uid0="marvel911"]So missing out on the fireworks shows how rebelious you are towards the government does it?[/quote]
marve|, no THAT doens't Prove your rebelious(or whatever), but it does Prove that you are not one of those guys who says "I'm not gonna suPPort tha war", and then go buy a American Flag!

And Elena, freedom of sPeech huh?
My friend got Pulled over yesterday for sPeeding, and he had a shirt on that said "World Trade is a death Machine(my shirt)" and on tha back it said "flip World Tarde", and he got arressted.. Hmm..!

Yes, America gives you freedom, but doesn't follow through with 'em.

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL 07-05-2005 09:08 AM

umm america is for wussies

Elena 07-05-2005 02:48 PM

[quote:post_uid0="asshole"][quote:post_uid0="marve|911"]So missing out on the fireworks shows how rebelious you are towards the government does it?[/quote]
marve|, no THAT doens't Prove your rebelious(or whatever), but it does Prove that you are not one of those guys who says "I'm not gonna suPPort tha war", and then go buy a American Flag!

And Elena, freedom of sPeech huh?
My friend got Pulled over yesterday for sPeeding, and he had a shirt on that said "World Trade is a death Machine(my shirt)" and on tha back it said "flip World Tarde", and he got arressted.. Hmm..!

Yes, America gives you freedom, but doesn't follow through with 'em.
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[color=9900CC]Yes, I see that but America is better then a whole lot of other counties...in fact even less then a decade ago if you were to go to a place like Iraq where Hussein was ruler and you had a shirt that said "Hussein sucks" and on the back "Screw him." You would not have only be arrested but you could of been killed...and tortured before that. IF and only IF you made it out alive you might have been missing a couple of limbs. And if the police officer truly did do that to you for that reason then you should of told someone. I

Vash 07-05-2005 02:52 PM

I could not light fireworks because my dad was acting like a cheap ass this year so I went over to my friend's house and we all poped firework's with them.

Angel-Eyes 07-05-2005 04:11 PM

[quote:post_uid0="MEGA_DRACOS_XRL"]umm america is for wussies[/quote]
im a wuss.

raise your hand if you have lived in a 3rd world country.

*raises hand* (nobody else does)


then shut the hell up cause you dont know what its like!




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KenDaShoto 07-05-2005 06:58 PM

this is so stupid everyone is arguing over nothing. if VF wants to complain let him. without his complaining this america that elena is preaching about wouldnt be what it is today. if everytime someone started complaining another person came and tried to tell them to stop because its goin pretty good as it is then america really would suck. i dont think it sux. it could use some work but think of one thing that cant.

Shingko 07-05-2005 07:17 PM

[quote:post_uid0="kester-"][quote:post_uid0="MEGA_DRACOS_XRL"]umm america is for wussies[/quote]
im a wuss.

raise your hand if you have lived in a 3rd world country.

*raises hand* (nobody else does)


then shut the hell up cause you dont know what its like!
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you've been cut DOWN! megas

i'm (and probably we) are sorry to hear that kester :huh:

Virtual Fighter 07-05-2005 08:27 PM

[color=#000000][quote]
Yes, I see that but America is better then a whole lot of other counties...in fact even less then a decade ago if you were to go to a place like Iraq where Hussein was ruler and you had a shirt that said "Hussein sucks" and on the back "Screw him." You would not have only be arrested but you could of been killed...and tortured before that. IF and only IF you made it out alive you might have been missing a couple of limbs. And if the police officer truly did do that to you for that reason then you should of told someone. I

dominicankid098 07-05-2005 11:08 PM

LMAO. I just read word for word from VF's post. It was a nice long read.



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LAB~MONSTER 07-05-2005 11:34 PM

Damn you people spend too much time writing a whole Newpaper article on a formu. I would read all of that but its too much.

@the fireworks. well i love fire works. i didn't lite any this year but i saw a lot of them though. I was on my roof, it was awesome man.

TremulantX 07-06-2005 03:03 AM

fireworks are kooool but my brother burned his finger LMAO!!! America is the best and I wouldn't trade it for anything else, I'm proud to hold my head up OVER the corruption, lies, war, sex scandals, stealing of peoples fund, cheating on taxes, murder, rapes, drug abuse, homelessness, joblessness, terrorist attacks, shipping off of the poor into an unwanted war, fighting for oil in some other country, fighting terrorism where it doesnt need to be fought, spending Social Security funds to fuel a pointless/resultless search for a terrorist, lack of funding for schools, lack of funding period, selling of guns to minors, corrupt mental hospitals, smuggling of drugs, mafias, drunk drivers, gangs, violence, and all that other crap because if it wasn't for America and it's half assed government then I wouldn't be here today..... thank you America and all of it's people who bitch and moan and invade celebrities privacy!! Thank you for keeping me alive on free money!! Thank you for having a wack ass court system, you asses I hate you!! and flip you for putting my dad away for 4 years!! and flip you for taking money away from us!! and flip you for basing our government on age old princibles that where sparked from the renaissance which where mostly proven to be wrong!! and thank you for allowing me to say that!! I don't care if this country is going to hell or already is is hell...... it's our country in spirit, but the man's country in reality, George Washington once said to NOT go meddling into other countries affairs and create unnecessary ties...... the rich get richer and the poor get poorer, life is good for many, not for some. I'm just going on and on about nothing and you have actually read all of this because you have nothing better to do. Have a nice day and please feel free to bitch and moan and flame me all you want, that's your freedom.... thanks to America. :) and you out of countryers enjoy. That's also your right of life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness as human beings.

SBYRD5 07-06-2005 08:35 AM

[quote:post_uid0="asshole"]I love how almost everybody at one Point was into saying "flip THA GOVERNMENT", but goes to see tha foreworks every year on 4th of July and feel like a kid again!

CV--
" 50 Stars to blind your eyes,
13 striPes to hyPnotize. "




I realise I may get banned, but ohhhhh well! ;]
[/quote]
lol....this is already going to be a long topic..I can tell...lmao... :cheesy:

Elena 07-06-2005 05:29 PM

Gawd why did I take this up...I don't have time for this...but anyways...I'll try and take this back up over the weekend....and I would just like to say um quit putting words in my mouth VF...I never said this country was perfect nor did I say it was great. It has its issues but to bitch about it like you do is just annoying. When it's because of this country and it's laws that you can talk about it like this...What made me mad is that you live here and you talk poop about it like it was your dead beat dad...when it was because of America you are able to go to school for free, get medicine for free, get welfare even though some people don't deserve it and even talk poop about it like there's no tomorrow...just because you can doesn't mean you should...

Hey VF, u'r Mexican right? Um if you hate America so much why don't you drop everything you've ever bought in America a go across the border???? I mean the way you talk about America you make it seem like Mexico is way better...so why dont' you just go. I'm sure you could just walk across the border with ease.

I'll get your cases...VF...I have to remember the case name...I know I wrote it down somewhere.

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If it's not perfect...

THEN WHY THE HELL ARE YOU DEFENDING IT!

I'm talking about howbad it is and how it's not perfect, and you for some reason are trying to tell me how great it is, and contredict your entire argument and tell me it's not perfect.
My entire argument is that America isn't as bad as you make it out to be...you can always do something about soemthing you don't like...as long as you are willing and have time...You make the entire U.S. seem racist and you make the laws seem as if they are written in stone....I'm saying that it's not. Not once did I say it was perfect...




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Virtual Fighter 07-06-2005 06:32 PM

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Gawd why did I take this up...I don't have time for this...but anyways...I'll try and take this back up over the weekend....
Concession!
Concession!
Concession!
Concession!
Five time! ... I mean, Concession!

But I really admiring you for arugubating me. I really think that even if you're wrong, which you are, you're still right-er than anyone who doesn't say anything at all.

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It has its issues but to bitch about it like you do is just annoying.
Ahh, yes. Complaining about racism, bigotry, racial profiling, famin, curuption, poverty, unjust war and hope for a better tommarow is indeed bitching and annoying.

Let me ask you something... Am I laying on the floor, kicking my feet and crying because my milk spilled or because Enron took my financial security?

No, i'm critisising, even "debating" a mature issue in a mature, intellegent way. But maybe to you intellegence is annoying?

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When it's because of this country and it's laws that you can talk about it like this...What made me mad is that you live here and you talk poop about it like it was your dead beat dad...
George washington is the father of our country. We live in the country, therefore we are in the womb of the united states. It is out mother (As in "motherland") and we are it's children.

If I see my mom doing heroin you're damn fliping right i'll confront to her about it.

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when it was because of America you are able to go to school for free, get medicine for free, get welfare even though some people don't deserve it and even talk poop about it like there's no tomorrow...just because you can doesn't mean you should...
Go to school for free?

Oh, is that why community (yes, community, not some private) colleges' tuitions are up 300%?

Medicine for free? I think you'd notice your own mistake, but let me clue you in...

THERE IS NO MEDICINE FOR FREE! That's why there is so much debate on health care, because it DOES cost 350,000 for a surgery. It DOES cost $20 for each cancer pill. and it's costing old people all of their money, which they won't have thanks to social security, just to keep themselves alife.

and talk poop? I believe, and if you read the constitution america says "Hey, guys. If anyone ever tries to flip me up and make me all currupt and poop, you guys go and complain, okay?"

It let us complain for a reason. -_-


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Hey VF, u'r Mexican right? Um if you hate America so much why don't you drop everything you've ever bought in America a go across the border???? I mean the way you talk about America you make it seem like Mexico is way better...so why dont' you just go. I'm sure you could just walk across the border with ease.
Wow, that's a great statment. Just say what you were probably thinking, "Go back to mexico you fliping beaner."


And if you read my posts and new what I was refferencing, which you probably don't, i wasn't praising mexico in ANYTHING. I was actually critising and down-playing mexico!

What do you think "That's not america. That's not even mexico." means? Yes, it was a quote from the simpsons, but it measns "That's not an A. That's not even a B!" statement.

You should try to read for style and cultural commentary instead of how my words go together. You might find some arguments you havn't even seen before.


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My entire argument is that America isn't as bad as you make it out to be...
And what makes it less-bad? I've given reasons, and you havn't given anything. anything true, anyway. You could try to take on my points, or concead points of mine and make some of your own, like "Yes, a and b, but look at c and d!"

Or you could go on saying "you complain too much!!" like you are now.

blanka09 07-06-2005 06:40 PM

Is "arugubating" really a word O_o ??

But in all seriousness only thing that gorged forum rules was the misplacement of the "f" word in the topic sentence... which has been changed. So you all can go on killing urself word by word :biggrin:




Edited By blanka09 on 1120700632

Virtual Fighter 07-06-2005 06:46 PM

Forget blanka09!

Elena 07-06-2005 07:01 PM

[color=9900CC]Aye...you take things to personal...no I wasn't thinking go back you beaner...what ever that means....I always thought Columbians had the coffee beans...

Nvm forget it...you win....I don't feel like reading...and I don't know why you keep implying that i'm a racist in every little argument/debate we get in...what are you racist? And that is a real question....I truly want to know.

Oh and as for the Medicine for free yes actually there is...I volunteer for DSS(Department of Social Services) every once in a while and for those who need it we have an onsite free clinic...and free school...uh what do you call public elem-high schools. They are free for the students who go there and they can even get free or reduced lunches. Are YOU required to pay a fee to step on school property during school hours?

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arugubating
Dude, is that a word...anyways I believe I just shouldn't of said anything at all. It's what's wrong with me...I normally speak before thinking things thoroughly...plus I responded when I was dead bored... :laugh:

Anyways, bye

Angel-Eyes 07-06-2005 07:02 PM

forget you!*


[quote:post_uid0="virtual fighter"]And what makes it less-bad?[/quote]

we have like tons of food.....lol they even dump leftover grain in the ocean to get rid of it.

tons of electricity, and water and such.


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*= nobody in particular, just making fun of blanka's edit.




Edited By kester- on 1120702415

Elena 07-06-2005 07:06 PM

Forget who? Me? You weren't exactly helping...

AnimeGirl4evr 07-07-2005 06:44 AM

[quote:post_uid0="blanka09"]Is "arugubating" really a word O_o ??

But in all seriousness only thing that gorged forum rules was the misplacement of the "f" word in the topic sentence... which has been changed. So you all can go on killing urself word by word :biggrin:[/quote]
arugubating is a real word..go look it up..you should of left the topic name




Edited By AnimeGirl4evr on 1120743984

MEGA_DRACOS_XRL 07-07-2005 07:51 AM

hmmm america is the mostn hated free world!! andf i live in it

blanka09 07-07-2005 12:29 PM

[quote:post_uid0="AnimeGirl4evr"][quote:post_uid0="blanka09"]Is "arugubating" really a word O_o ??

But in all seriousness only thing that gorged forum rules was the misplacement of the "f" word in the topic sentence... which has been changed. So you all can go on killing urself word by word :biggrin:[/quote]
arugubating is a real word..go look it up..you should of left the topic name[/quote]

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=arugubating


Do yourself a favor and click that link. VF obviously meant arrogating; meaning to ascribe on behalf of another in an unwanted manner.

Secondly, leaving the topic name would mean breaking a rule that disallows the use of "catch-words" to bypass the filter but have their hidden intent as being societally inappropriate words.

Finally, that would the last time I'd have to explain publicly the reasons behind the actions I take in the canopy of the law.. for in the words of Judge Dredd... I AM THE LAW.

BOMBACLAT!!! :biggrin:




Edited By blanka09 on 1120766488

Virtual Fighter 07-07-2005 03:47 PM

I meant argubating. For flips sakes, i've made up words before and no one has told me poop.


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