Well, pretty simple, debate which genre of music is better; rock or rap and please state why. I'd hate to have to read a stupid post supporting rock doing it more damage than good.

Anyways, I say rock is better than rap for numerous reasons. The most obvious IMO is that rock isn't hollow. The majority of rap artists have no skill what-so-ever and use the video to get publicity. The video truly did kill the radio star. For example, I use Nelly: Air Force One, possibly the stupidest song I have heard... he talks about shoes!?! I'm I the only one her<s>r</s>e who notices this!?! Nelly would have never had become mainstream of he didn't have the "chicks" (I perfer the term "s**t") in the videos. Now don't get me wrong, rock bands have the chicks hang around them, BUT they rarely use them in videos are but them in bikinis. Another reason why I say rap blows is because of the lyrics, I use Ludacris' first single "Southern Hospitality" for example. He uses the lyrics:

Now, one of my sisters was signing this and me & my other sister were just watching her astonished because the song is degrading women. The majority of raps songs: degrade women, take about killing police, drugs, or living the life of a gangsta. Its total bull, if I wanted to hear this stuff, I'd commit a crime, go to jail and just listen to peoples stories.


Now rock on the other hand isn't hollow, but it does have some cracks. Anyways, rock is better than rap IMO because WYSIWYG. I'm watching "Never Again" by Nickelback and even though I hate them, it is a quality video. It is them playing their instruments, no chicks and it gets airplay for the music, not because of some women having champagne being poured over them.

Also, the lyrics have some quality. I look up the "Sweetness" by Jimmy Eat World and the lyrics are:

Lets see, it doesnt't: degrade women, take about killing police, drugs, or living the life of a gangsta.

Rock is better than rap in my opinion. :buttrock:

i think there both equal...but i like rap better :buttrock:

[quote:post_uid0="Selvin"][/quote]
hum.........can't believe ya used one of Ludacris' songs man....... :angryfire: j/k

anyway, ya like rock better, I like rap better...... Rock is not for me .....I mean when u listen to rap, the beat is crazy, U can rap along easily, U can dance on it and $hit......yeah sure the lyrics are really crazy but in all kind of music (except pop and that other music $hit)

There is always explicit lyrics, degrading either woman, police, child and all that but there is always some artists that got good lyrics and all......... Nas is all about that.......Tupac too, except that he hates the police and all that but he tried to help us black people U know.........anyway.......for me Rap is the best :biggrin:

i like rock and rap equaly but i really like these new groups who blend rock's instruments and raps beats and lyrics.(linkin park xcutioner style, N.E.R.D.)

but my choice would be techno heh but thats another story. :p

rap

Could you say why?? ???

Rock is much better than rap, because it has music not just beats, and you know what they are saying, and the lyrics and music can be catchy..

rap beats all music

Would it hurt you guys to give a reason why. ???

wat does that mean.. there equal but u prefee rap


it depends wat kinda mood im in .....i like both

??? ok asshole I see nothing wrong with what ja-rule did and where u get blackpanthers from so what, he can do that. And what is this about kkk, they were for violence and threats
Blackpanthers standed for the rights that the blacks should have and freedom that the white man was taking from them. Its a black thing, now Selvin lol yeah i never thought about what luda said but hey its still a kick ass song. And the nelly talking about shoes lol u must not get it. Nelly trying to say they the hottest shoes in the joint. "give me two pairs I need two pairs so I" "get to stomping in my airforce one's" All he is doing is Advertising the shoes so he can make the green.
The new slang *get my hair diddy* :withstupid: never heard of it.
Now the reasoing I like rap cause its pretty much what luda said Lyrics, I could easily freestlye $hit on and u wouldnt make a comeback unless u spite back.
I dont give a flying monkeys nuts about videos, and to me best videos would be rap everyday thing in. But some stuff in rock does disturb me :shocked: Anyways rock is ok I got my fav bands linkinpark,System of a down,N.E.R.Detc.. the whole "U cant be me Im a rockstar im ridding on top of a cop car." things like that are just kool.
Come on don't even try to pull that sugarcoating bull one me! j/k. But its not like rockers dont have issues with drug's women, drinking.

[quote:post_uid0="MasterX05"]And what is this about kkk, they were for violence and threats
Blackpanthers standed for the rights that the blacks should have and freedom that the white man was taking from them. Its a black thing,[/quote]
I'm black you fool... that black panthers thing was stupid...

selvin's statement has just shocked me :shocked:

well.....there's something you don't see everyday, a black dude who likes rock/metal.

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]selvin's statement has just shocked me :shocked:

well.....there's something you don't see everyday, a black dude who likes rock/metal.[/quote]
Yeah, so you can all see why I dis-like rap so much.

Then why are u bicthing about it? If u are black u wouldnt care about blackpanthers LEARN YOUR HISTORY BOY. All the peeps i heard say thats the best part in the dam veido. And i agree that was kind of hot. But sorry my bad had no idea u were black. Anyway all ja-rule was saying power to my ppl. I see nuttin stupid on that he is black so what just drop it. ???

[quote:post_uid0="MasterX05"]Then why are u bicthing about it? If u are black u wouldnt care about blackpanthers LEARN YOUR HISTORY BOY. All the peeps i heard say thats the best part in the dam viedo. And i agree that was kind ok hot. But sorry my bad had no idea u were black. Anyway all ja-rule was saying power to my ppl. I see nuttin stupid on that he is black so what just drop it. ???[/quote]
lol, I'm saying that race shouldn't matter in music and shouldn't be brought into music. You prove my point perfectly, someone who is infulenced my rap talks his stuff and calls em boy. Just another example to prove my point. Thanks.

Prince, have you been living in a $hit-hole?
Heh..

Oh and Master..
Ouuuu.. It's a Black thing!!
That's why I didn't understand!!!
Geex.. you cleared uP the WHOLE thing for me!
God you're dumb!

Well incase you didn't get it the first time, here's what I MEANT by that Post!

You don't see ANY Band suPPorting KKK or any racist thing, so why does he have to go out and Bring in Black Panthers for no reason?
I mean you said it yourself, that it was to Defend theirselves, but when there's NOTHING to defend from, why do it?


Oh and PeoPle, are you stuPid!?!?!?
Give a reason why!!!
Geex..

selvin u stupid ass u should take [pride in the black panther thing, u are black and u say that it was stupid, that makes u stupid :withstupid:

i never though selvin was black i pivtured him as some outcast whiteboy who loves rock music..

damit selvin u are just confusion me i dont know if what i said was right or wrong aaahhhhh.

I'm guessing all you stuPid fuucks are gonna turn this into a Racist thread, which is comPletely gonna PISS ME OFF!!

I dont know $hit why dont u ask the director or ja-rule.[

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[quote:post_uid0="MasterX05"]I dont know $hit why dont u ask the director or ja-rule.[[/quote]
Then why even start a debate with me, if you don't know what you're talking about!?

People please stick to rap vs. rock.

And I said talking about black panthers, race, etc in VIDEOS is stupid.

Ok here it is rap is good and its been around sice i cant remeber but it ariginated in jamaica and it will always be a trend setor for ppl today and maybe in the future too

thank you selvin cause i am half.

who the fuuck told you that prince? your saying it like the entire country is.

and rap music was born in 1971 or sometime in the 1970's in a NEW JERSEY studio place. its the REAGEA music that was originated in jamaica. ever listen to bob marley?

yo i hear somethin like this everywhere i go. people say that rap is bad. people say that rock is bad. i like rap better than rock. i will tell you why.

rap has good beats to listen to. rap also has some tight as hell lyrics. and think about this. you always see a rap or an r&b artist number 1 on the charts. why u ask. cause it is popular.

im also so sick of people dising rap. a lot of people say that rap is a bad influence on people. hell, what about tv, what about rock, what about bad people, what about some websites and ##### up videos about stupid ####.

i hear a lot of people say this *it takes no skill to be a rap star* the hell with them. you try busting tight as hell lyrics that everybody can like. you try to find a tight beat that can make a song off the chain.

thats all i got to say now on this subject.

peace and chicken grease ;)

Rap

reason why?
beacuse I say so. :D

can yall give good reasons like i did ???

[quote:post_uid0="Selvin"][quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]it originated from those stupid jamaican gangs who do drugs and kill families[/quote]
As someone who is Jamaican, that is some of the most offensive BS I've read in my whole life... :angryfire:[/quote]
Thank you Selvin...cuz im half jamaican.
Anywayz I like both. It really depends on how im feeling. And yes i agree there are some dumb songs out there. But they are the ones that seem to get the money maybe cuz they're different.
P.S Welcome back selvin. And yes i know im late.

Yeah, hey Elena.

Once again, people can we please stick to rap vs. rock, thanks.

that was uncalled 4.

and i notice that the guy who created this says that rap degrades women. man all types of songs degrade women. everybody tries to make rap seem worse than it already is. im sick of people doing that crap. :angryfire: :angryfire: :angryfire: :angryfire: :angryfire:

Well i dont feel like typing much so ill just try to get to the point...........

My preference is Rap.

Reason: Because i enjoy freestlying, I like to compose beats, i like to put stuff together and i think that Rap has come along way. Rap isnt just Money, hoes, Beenz and all that stuff. Rap is also the word of the people, rap wanst always what it is right now. Politics for once has been in Rap for a long time, i feel that i can relate to rap because i can get things across in no other way. Its poetry in motion, you must know alot of vocab and must read alot of books.

Why i dont like Rock as much as Rap: Well the reason i dont like rock is because i dont like snake tattoos, I dont know how to play an instrument, I dont like wearing black, I dont like body peircing and i dont do heroin.

Oh and i dont like doing this............. :buttrock:

[quote:post_uid0="G_GUNDAM"]and i notice that the guy who created this says that rap degrades women. man all types of songs degrade women. everybody tries to make rap seem worse than it already is. im sick of people doing that crap. :angryfire: :angryfire: :angryfire: :angryfire: :angryfire:[/quote]
Yeah country music degrades women, techno degrades women. Yeah, you're right all types of music degrade women as much as rap does coughsarcaismcough

This is supposed to be a rock vs. rap topic, right??

Then no more of this racist bs... Frankly, I don't care what ethnic group invented rap, and I'm pretty sure Selvin was reffering to rap vs rock as it is NOW, and not rock vs. rap origins or anything like that...

So, if anyone else wants to continue their little racist discussions... where's that delete key again? :biggrin:

BTW, before I leave this topic, don't let it turn into another sexist topic... or... reffer to comment above :biggrin:

[quote:post_uid0="tupac2westsider"]Well i dont feel like typing much so ill just try to get to the point...........

My preference is Rap.

Reason: Because i enjoy freestlying, I like to compose beats, i like to put stuff together and i think that Rap has come along way. Rap isnt just Money, hoes, Beenz and all that stuff. Rap is also the word of the people, rap wanst always what it is right now. Politics for once has been in Rap for a long time, i feel that i can relate to rap because i can get things across in no other way. Its poetry in motion, you must know alot of vocab and must read alot of books.

Why i dont like Rock as much as Rap: Well the reason i dont like rock is because i dont like snake tattoos, I dont know how to play an instrument, I dont like wearing black, I dont like body peircing and i dont do heroin.

Oh and i dont like doing this............. :buttrock:[/quote]
i think im going to quote myself because i think im being ignored ???