Well...you'v read the choices.
You have all seen how the so called "players with skill" actualy play Ryu...

Wich is basicaly to run away from your opponent and type the Hadoken commands as fast as you can.
Thus creating an infinite wall of impassable destruction, and creating a "Lag Shield" greater than Husseins stock pile of Bio Weapons.

If you are a "truly" skilled player and actualy try and play Ryu as a close combat fighter...Then you know exactly what I am talking about, and you'll make the right Vote. ;)



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 02 2003 at 17:29

well, im partly agree and disagree...

i agree bcoz right from the start (if youll ask me) i really love a NO SUPER fight when im using ryu but there are some ppl who likes to have supers, they say it would take the fight long

i disagree bcoz if youre gonna limit hadokens, then might as well limit optic blast, kikou shou, sentinel beam, etc...

same here....ive been complained at but if your a truely skilled player then you will be able to get out of the hadouken barrage......Null vote

[quote:post_uid0="bloodpack"]well, im partly agree and disagree...

i agree bcoz right from the start (if youll ask me) i really love a NO SUPER fight when im using ryu but there are some ppl who likes to have supers, they say it would take the fight long

i disagree bcoz if youre gonna limit hadokens, then might as well limit optic blast, kikou shou, sentinel beam, etc...[/quote]
Agreed basically that's how I get killed. Sentinel Beam optic blast, beserker barrage(not the super). :(

....hmm u ##### smart lagger...lags your advantage....speed player like me..thats our advantage..u fool.u big big fool.u wanna make the game even unfairrer.....people like me who dont lag...hit you and #### never loads...so we have 2 keep hitting you 2 stop u hitting me never mind moves loading...that would mean laggers could NEVER EVER EVER lose.....fool.and think about what i just read and ....if u post back arguing u are an even bigger fool

EDIT BY VIPER: I see that word again, youre gone.



Edited By viper2040 on May 02 2003 at 17:33

i asked TMY b4 to limit optics. he sed you cant really limit a move because *forgot the rest*. so you prolly won't get the limitation...=/

[quote:post_uid0="pip99"]....hmm u fukin smart lagger...lags your advantage....speed player like me..thats our advantage..u fool.u big big fool.u wanna make the game even unfairrer.....people like me who dont lag...hit you and #### never loads...so we have 2 keep hitting you 2 stop u hitting me never mind moves loading...that would mean laggers could NEVER EVER EVER lose.....fool.and think about what i just read and ....if u post back arguing u are an even bigger fool[/quote]
You so called "Speed players" are exactly what im talking about.

They can't win a match without creating lag through their infinte Hadokens...that is no show of skill.

Ryu is a very leathal close combat fighter...but i suppose most people wouldnt know that..since they cant get past the "Im still a nooby, who's afraid to get close to my opponent." stage of their game play.

I have about as much respect for a Hadoken queen as I do an Optic blast queen...wich is very little.

Please tell me where the fun and skill is, in just typing S,D,P over and over and over again...and then when you see you opponent "might" get close to you and actualy kick your ass with basic attacks..ya'll run away and keep blasting the Hadokens....

tell ya what...instead of toning down the Hadoken...
Why dont we just ask TMy remove all of Ryu's moves except the Hadoken and Shinkuu Hadoken.
80% of the players wouldnt notice the change anyways...it's not like ya'll use the rest of Ryu's attacks. :D

currently the way Hadokens work is..
You cast one..and you cant cast another untill the first has disapeared..thats fine...the problem is that you can "stack" your next Hadoken..err...Hadoken'S.
There needs to be a better delay between the time one hadoken is canceled and another one can be cast.



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 02 2003 at 19:46

i actully try to combo with ryu. but when facing noob hadoken fighters. i cant even touch them. so that forces me to do a goddamn "hadoken fight" with them. it's so boring. one example is tidus42

lmfao u typed back.......

You have

LAG moves dont load on you ANYWAY

i dont have

LAG...moves load on me

LAG is your advantage


diong this #### idea will giv laggers and even biger advantage.

#### NO!

get over it.....some people are cheap.

id MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH more play a cheap person you doesnt lag....then a lagger

LISTEN to yourself....laggers own the game already....and you want 2 give them more of an advantage....and yo...on my screen i dont lag...u LAG me diong moves might build lag on your screen get over it..mines always 40 fps...and your specials load on me.
You probaly dont know how annoying it is..playing a lagger when u dont lag...having none of your moves load.


i mean for #### sake
YOUR TELLING TMYAPP 2 LIMIT MOVES WHEN THEY NEVER ####### LOAD


You need your lag to win
You need your lag to win
You need your lag to win
You need your lag to win
You need your lag to win
You need your lag to win
You need your lag to win
You need your lag to win
You need your lag to win


Dont take the ONLY advantage quicker and unlaggy players have get over it or get a better pc/modem


THIS TOPIC IS ####### STUPID





u go on about trully skilled fighter LMFAO....nferno championx ether....they all beat ryu #####


u keep dion hadokens back or
OK!!! HIGH JUMP...SWEEP MEDUIM KICK maybe superuppercut..etc etc...

but the moves will load...so its ok. but when u laggers go cheap moves still dont load.

ANY TRULLY SKILLED PLAYER CAN KILL A HADONKEN NOOB

now if your really gonna try and argue back u are stubborn or just a down right twat u has 2 have the advantage

Bahahaa.
Pip i advise you remove that little bit of spam from the bottom of that topic, an rethink your position.

Dont be mad or afraid to lose because I wish to make the game fair for everyone...by forcing "Hadoken Queens", and "Speed Players" ( that bitch about Normal Mode because they cant win at the speed the game is meant to be run ) to learn how to actualy fight with some skill instead of relying off of the lag they can create against their opponents.



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 02 2003 at 16:51

lol this is so amusing, i noticed that too pip, you keep hadokeing your opponents to death, wait for the level then you go super

i have so much respect on both of you but this thread is amusing... :laughlong:

blood u know i ant cheap im just fast.DIFFERENCE Nosoul.
and Nosoul man ...lol dont make me start.

LAGGERSwho already own the game u go slap your piontless spam...cause u dont play on a fast game so u dont understand the game half as well as i do..when i play you your like 6 seconds behind....so u dont know whats really happening...




i dont know about u but i RAPE hadokens #####.

Pip: If you take a good long open minded look at how you and others are playing the game in general....then you'd realize..you dont know as much as you think.

If you are so lucky as to realize that you are 6 seconds ahead of a player..then you should play accordingly.

does that mean..stand as close to your motionless opponent as possible and cast Hadoken after Hadoken, to build your Super....and still they take no damage....umm..not if you actualy know whats going on and realize that you are creating your own lag and misfortune.



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 02 2003 at 17:33

also the ob ob thing

[quote:post_uid0="nosoul4evr"]Pip: If you take a good long open minded look at how you and others are playing the game in general....then you'd realize..you dont know as much as you think.

If you are so lucky as to realize that you are 6 seconds ahead of a player..then you should play accordingly.

does that mean..stand as close to your motionless opponent as possible and cast Hadoken after Hadoken, Super after Super..and still they take no damage....umm..not if you actualy know whats going on and realize that you are creating your own lag and misfortune.[/quote]
THIS IS WHAT I MEAN!!!!!! NOO!!!!! NOOOO!!!

your so wrong on SO many levels :laugh:


jesus.....

it dont matter...even when im 6 seconds ahead...cause the moves still dont load....

the sooner u understand the better just cause i hit u doesnt mean u cant move.

look up and read that over at least twice. then THINK about what yuo post

limitation.. yea right ..
it takes skill to do alot of hadokens fast after eachother :p
and if u are skilled u can do as much hadokens ..

hehehe...the game dont run as fast as you can play it pip....not when your in my game...thats why moves dont appear to "load"...loading is not the issue..it's a matter of how well you and i are communicating.

when i fight you pip...you are all over me like stink on ####....I cant get a move in edge wise....and when i do...it is a super...and you bitch...stop ya sniveling man.

The issue in this topic is "How quickly should Ryu be able to cast another Hadoken?"

Not for you to decide to pick a fight.



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 02 2003 at 17:25

If somebody is truely skilled they no how to beat a Hadoken player easily. All I do is jump foward and and push back to block and get close to him/her and do roundhouse(don't know name)punches, kicks, uppercut(still don't know the name) untill I get my super and do that super uppercut(i don't remember names that well). So if your saying your skilled and you can't handle a stupid Hadoken player then your just somebody who can beat everone else except the Hadoken player.

And...

It's not other peoples fault thier 6 seconds ahead like me I attack where it shows on my screen but really on the guy who's behind there somewhere else like in the other end of the world. Sheez...and no Hadoken's should not be limited.Like I posted above your skilled then beat em up. If your not then... die. Lag would be much less if everyone had cable and so on but everone doesn't so don't think there's going to be somesort of device that's going to make things better because there's not going to be.

End of Discussion.

a few things. First, I can agree with a LOT that has been said here, but i have a few issues. Nosoul, I do respect you, but I'm going to have to say that just cause a player likes turbo doesnt mean that hes cheap. Normal is really slow, and evens the playing field for people with slower reaction speeds. The faster the better, (although turbo creates a LITTLE lag....). My mind is racing during a fight. Plus, normal takes FOREVER. Original streetfighter II matches didnt take that long if youre good. And with supers added, hte matches were meant to be shorter.

Hadoken problems, i totally agree. I strive to use each characters move once during any given match. And i try to use them equally. So for ryu, i might do shoryuken, hadoken, tetsumaki-whatever kick. Hadokens are nice, but theyre overrated. What DOES need to happen at the least (and shouldnt take much coding) is to make the hadokens do less for the super meter. The supers are supposed to be hard to get; currently, you can use them every fifth hadoken.

oh, nosoul? if that isnt a loaded question, i dont know what is ;)
"NO! Dont change the hadoken, cause id have no skill then!"
LOL!!!



Edited By viper2040 on May 02 2003 at 17:50

[quote:post_uid0="nosoul4evr"]hehehe...the game dont run as fast as you can play it pip....not when your in my game...thats why moves dont appear to "load"...loading is not the issue..it's a matter of how well you and i are communicating.

when i fight you pip...you are all over me like stink on ####....I cant get a move in edge wise....and when i do...it is a super...and you bitch...stop ya sniveling man.

The issue in this topic is "How quickly should Ryu be able to cast another Hadoken?"

Not for you to decide to pick a fight.[/quote]
....thats cause im fast....and my moves never load. and i kick way more than most players. ;)



u get some skill...have u ever played darklink....even danyankess..both skilled ryu users...they hadoken like hell i dont complain...infact im cool with that.

Viper:I am not accusing anyone of being cheaping by playing Turbo.
Normal/Turbo is not the topic.

The way,hadokens are cast is the topic.



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 02 2003 at 17:58

Nosoul list 10 none cheap ryus user..if you could plz.

[quote:post_uid0="pip99"]Nosoul list 10 none cheap ryus user..if you could plz.[/quote]
Is that cheap users or the people who aren't cheap.

[quote:post_uid0="pip99"]Nosoul list 10 none cheap ryus user..if you could plz.[/quote]
You just summed it all right there in one simple post.."Please list 10 Non cheap Ryu user."

Ummm..Me.

Geezz..I get more compition outa noobys who havent figured out how to cast a hadoken...they actualy "try" to fight you..they dont run away casting a million hadokens..or get right up on ya and do the same...and they dont rely on lag and hadoken spam to win.



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 04 2003 at 16:26

[quote:post_uid0="nosoul4evr"][quote:post_uid0="pip99"]Nosoul list 10 none cheap ryus user..if you could plz.[/quote]
You just stated it all right there in one simple post.."Please list 10 None cheap Ryu user."

Ummm..Me.

Geezz..I get more compition outa noobys who havent figured out how to cast a hadoken...they actualy "try" to fight you..they dont run away casting a million hadokens..or get right up on ya and do the same...they dont rely on LAG to win.[/quote]
weres the other 9.

or are you moaning on your ones cause u cant beat hadoken players.


thats the most backswards piece of (not allowed 2 swear cause viper pmed me)....ive ever heard...what a HUGE contradiction.U RELY ON LAG 2 WIN.

Pip: Get over yourself man.
This topic has absolutely NOTHING to do with you.
Just because you are beating an after image, and then getting slammed with a bad/good bout of packets....aint my fault.



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 02 2003 at 18:36

[quote:post_uid0="nosoul4evr"]Pip: Get over your self man.
Just because you are beating an after image and then get slammed with a bad bout of packets....aint my fault.[/quote]
yeah u realised you were wrong....and come back with the crappest excuse for a cuss ive heard in a long time.

[quote:post_uid0="nosoul4evr"]DUDE..this has NOTHING to do with you..dubya tee eff are you on about...GET OUTA MY FACE![/quote]
this arguement need i big

MEH.

Yes, apparently it's 3 pages of miscommunication. ???

Pip: Do you know what the word "none" means?
Your own words have betrayed you.
I challange YOU to name 10 non cheap Ryu players....that is the whole point of this topic...way to many Ryu user revolve their battle souly around avoiding their opponent, and casting Hadokens.

I am not "wrong" about anything.



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 04 2003 at 17:36

Dont change the hadukens...i'd have no skill then..
i mean hadukens shouldnt be a problem to most people..for the fact that they'd use hadukens as well to counter yours..although hadukens may be a problem for wolvie users and such, but i guess the odds are even since cyclops is a problem for ryu...and spiderman..not sure..lol..

[quote:post_uid0="viper2040"]oh, nosoul? if that isnt a loaded question, i dont know what is ;)
"NO! Dont change the hadoken, cause id have no skill then!"
LOL!!![/quote]
:D Hehe, ya I'm a tricky one.
Im just checkin' to see who agrees with me about the Hadoken. ;)



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 02 2003 at 19:23

scorp, i couldnt have said it better...i especially enjoyed your comment about sent: "just open your mouth"
for some reason that cracks me up http://www.boomspeed.com/viper2040_/roflmao.gif



Edited By viper2040 on May 03 2003 at 03:52

ok, let me end this argument
ppl wanna know their true fighting skills?
then someone fight me...

ryu vs ryu
no specials or supers
only fists and kicks
lets see whos really good in online hand-to-hand combat :)

BloodPack: honestly man..that isnt gonna prove anything.

This is not a "Ryu's cheap" topic..This is not a "So and so is cheap" topic, this is not a "So and so lags" topic, nor is it a "So and so hasnt any skill" topic

It is simply a...
Do you think Hadokens are abused and over shadowing the rest of Ryu's moves? topic.
I mean...TMy went through all the trouble to put together a collaboration of Ryu's moves....and no one uses them. :(

Very few people actualy "try" to play this game in a legitimate manner.
They throw a high Hadoken, they throw a low hadoken...they throw a high hadoken..they throw a low hadoken.Their opponent gets near them..they jump away throwing a hadoken.
As some one mentioned earlier...BORING.
I have no problems beating this lame ass tactic....it's just ...lame. I have plenty of tricks up my sleeve to break such lowly attempts...and when i do...people bitch.



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 03 2003 at 08:34

why are you all ppl complaining about.
we should not even changed nothing for ryu. ryu is not cheaped with hadouken the only thing u ppl are doing IS MAKING TMYAPP WORK MORE AND MORE. is like u make tmyapp do everything u want.
leaved this ryu specials or attack ALONE.
if i was tmyapp i would be mad right about now.
cant u ppl just wait until he finish and then when he has time for the game ask him but come on. he is working for god sake.
LEAVED THIS CHARACTER ALONE.
you ppl are just grrrrrr. nvm..
anyone closed this topic its just dumb and annoying hehe

*cough*speaking of speed players*cough*

I am not asking TMy to do anything..I am getting a general census of how the public feels about this matter.
hehe...all though it is a rather one sided poll..the topic/issue is legit.

From what im hearing..It sounds like players might be afraid of having a change to the Hadoken..because it might remove their "One move wonder" skills. ???



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 03 2003 at 08:41

oh i see nvm what i said then

[quote:post_uid0="nosoul4evr"]*cough*speaking of speed players*cough*

I am not asking TMy to do anything..I am getting a general census of how the public feels about this matter.
hehe...all though it is a rather one sided poll..the topic/issue is legit.

From what im hearing..It sounds like players might be afraid of having a change to the Hadoken..because it might remove their "One move wonder" skills. ???[/quote]
Basically what your saying is hadoken is somepeoples only skill. Well I am going to repeat what I said.(like Scorponok said)

You don't have skill if you can't dodge a few million(j/k)
hadokens. Ok you do know there's something called blocking. Block while jumping close to your opponet and then beat the crap out of them. Sheez... can't you read English....


P.S. Close this topic or something.