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Dark_Killer 08-30-2002 07:33 PM

Can clan start being here?

SuperSonicX 08-30-2002 09:25 PM

If u wanna start a clan...go here...http://battle-grounds.vze.com/

(DK)Nas 08-31-2002 12:06 AM

he doesent want to make a clan he wants to see if a
clan duengen(like at senshuk)can be held here

08-31-2002 12:33 AM

I dont like ur idea...because the forum is already so slow....and this clan thing will make it worse...so why dont you guys forget about the clan wars?...its over now....

DARKPICCOLO 08-31-2002 01:23 AM

DONT WORRY the clans will be back soon, but first i must find all seven dragonballs....oh wait um scratch that last idea im gonna wish for slim jims :p

08-31-2002 08:10 AM

Clans were thought to have no point before tag mode came out...

Now that tag mode's out, clans rarely use it for their battles because of the amount of lag.

But all the same, for some reason people still think there's a point to joining clans now.

Kinda ironic, don't you think?

Kingryu1 08-31-2002 09:41 AM

some people like being in clans becasue then they've got people to back them up when they need it. others just do it cause their bored :laugh: :p

QUIET_KILLER 08-31-2002 10:11 AM

I would also like to hear an answer from the admins as well.
I don't think clans have a purpose any more.They only do what every one else is doing now being cheap.A clan just fights by way of (2 on 1s) or (2 on 2s) is for every 1 but they some times pick on weakling.Then they decide to kill the weak with the strong opponent for a disadvantage..Its not just my opion but a fact that should be well known by now man.Come on now at least some one in this forum has experienced it... ???

Roll 08-31-2002 06:43 PM

Is that true, Quiet? If it is, then I'll try and stop it! (a lot of good I'LL do... :biggrin: )

DanYankees 08-31-2002 07:51 PM

[quote:post_uid0="QUIET_KILLER"]I would also like to hear an answer from the admins as well.
I don't think clans have a purpose any more.They only do what every one else is doing now being cheap.A clan just fights by way of (2 on 1s) or (2 on 2s) is for every 1 but they some times pick on weakling.Then they decide to kill the weak with the strong opponent for a disadvantage..Its not just my opion but a fact that should be well known by now man.Come on now at least some one in this forum has experienced it... ???[/quote]
quiet killer--u've got it all wrong. have you ever seen that happen, in which new fighters got beat down by experienced clan members?? i'm pretty sure that isn't true, unless some clan made up of ##### beat down on someone. we clan members don't team up together in tag matches and pick on people...we just fight like we always have in the past.

nothing had really changed once we joined a clan.

its just that while you're in a clan you could have some friends to talk to, have people to back you up, and fight together in clan wars/battles.

There still is a point of having clans because there is now weekly clan battles (or at least there just were some recently when sen-shuk was around), and some clans were also challenging other clans.

what im trying to say is that what you said was totally wrong, and that clans should still be among us. the reason you said those things is probably because you never experienced being in a clan before.

08-31-2002 08:06 PM

like i said.just forget about this clan thing....
its all over now..so dont start crying :biggrin:

DanYankees 08-31-2002 08:16 PM

[quote:post_uid0="wrestlemania"]like i said.just forget about this clan thing....
its all over now..so dont start crying :biggrin:[/quote]
ahhhh austin austin austin...i'm afraid you're wrong. the clans live on

Ninjitsu 08-31-2002 10:48 PM

yeah, the hfo will definitely live on, my members and i are close friends, we dont always talk about the game, we talk about stuff relating to our lives, cool pics, jokes, suff like that. so no, 2000warrior, there is a point to clans. at least for mine there is.

Dark_Killer 08-31-2002 10:51 PM

#### it lock this topic ,that link that sonic put up clans are there

Ninjitsu 08-31-2002 10:54 PM

battle grounds has been shut down for quite awhile, dark killer.............just an update.

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dark masta and kks, please hurry with whatever you're working on. its starting to break loose into chaos here.

Kingryu1 09-01-2002 05:04 AM

*cough* noob.

SSJKarma 09-02-2002 12:43 AM

i always been an aloner and i will always be...

no one to be with and no one to actually bak-you up you lose a fight !

1 person can beat the entire clan and still get his ass beated by those who always yell lies !
but being an aloner is nothing if you can't keep up with those responsabilities !
if i can't beat someone then i still say Good Match and i ask him to rematch.
that is how people should work in my opinion !
it's the way i am and it will always be.

clans are nothing that can really help !

you need friends ?
i got some in here and we are not a clan...
if someone flamed me for nothing, we will just ignore him or someone will take my defense. perhaps my self perhaps an other like roll or DX... this is just an example of a simple being called SSJKarma.

Joining CLANs !
why ?
what they will do for me, is what i already get while being an ALONEr

tournaments ! (i can join some)
Friends ! (i already have that)
a new (something)SSJKarma name ! (whatMs the point of doing that)

see i have what i need, and so does all the other people like me !

09-02-2002 07:58 AM

SSJKarma: I felt very much the same way for a long time... but I got bored and joined a clan for the "experience," and I must say, it was quite boring. In the begining, too many ######s being allowed in, most of the members didn't behave themselves well (constantly flooding the chat with "Dark Knights RULLES!!!" msg's), hardly any competition, except for a bare few challenges, and two feuding leaders to top it off.

A while later, only 5-8 active members, and for some reason the inactive members were still members, still #### recruiting, an inter-clan tournament that was poorly designed/participated in (and was left unfinished), and a couple leaders that were never around (although Shinakuma/DarkmagicX was around more then I was).

Bottem line... don't join a clan. It's a waste of your time since:

#1: There has never been, and never will be, an efficient clan, lead by someone who knows how to recruit, make sure the members behave themselves, and provide competition so that members don't lose interest.

#2: There isn't any steady competition, that will keep clans and their members active. I tried with WCB, but only 5 clans participtated (which were probably the only active clans); and now that the Senshuk forum's gone, that'll pass to the "new home" of the clans.

#3: The clan members are too lazy to show up for their fights even when they have competition. I had something designed to "put an end" to no-shows in the WCB's, but I doubt it would make a difference now.

#4: Because of all the reasons stated above, there won't be a "great" clan tournament. Someone will probably attempt it again, one day... But unless those 3 reasons can be adressed, it won't be a good tournament.

DanYankees 09-02-2002 09:17 AM

[quote:post_uid0="2000warrior"]SSJKarma: I felt very much the same way for a long time... but I got bored and joined a clan for the "experience," and I must say, it was quite boring. In the begining, too many ######s being allowed in, most of the members didn't behave themselves well (constantly flooding the chat with "Dark Knights RULLES!!!" msg's), hardly any competition, except for a bare few challenges, and two feuding leaders to top it off.

A while later, only 5-8 active members, and for some reason the inactive members were still members, still #### recruiting, an inter-clan tournament that was poorly designed/participated in (and was left unfinished), and a couple leaders that were never around (although Shinakuma/DarkmagicX was around more then I was).

Bottem line... don't join a clan. It's a waste of your time since:

#1: There has never been, and never will be, an efficient clan, lead by someone who knows how to recruit, make sure the members behave themselves, and provide competition so that members don't lose interest.

#2: There isn't any steady competition, that will keep clans and their members active. I tried with WCB, but only 5 clans participtated (which were probably the only active clans); and now that the Senshuk forum's gone, that'll pass to the "new home" of the clans.

#3: The clan members are too lazy to show up for their fights even when they have competition. I had something designed to "put an end" to no-shows in the WCB's, but I doubt it would make a difference now.

#4: Because of all the reasons stated above, there won't be a "great" clan tournament. Someone will probably attempt it again, one day... But unless those 3 reasons can be adressed, it won't be a good tournament.[/quote]
KKS is a great clan leader who recruits good members, keeps his members in order because he's a mod (except for ssj2trunks who got banned for his horrible behavior), and provided competition for us (at the time senshuk shut down) by challenging the Ikari Warriors.

Every clan just needs an intelligent, active leader, such as KKS, to be an efficient clan. Once we have all that in order we can start challenging other clans, and hopefully the ideas of having weekly clan battles/clan wars can be brought up again.

SSJKarma 09-02-2002 09:04 PM

clans doesn't mean anything by now...
i mean, there is not even 2-on-2 tag matches !

clans haven't really been active in here but in other places !
i never really saw the REAL deal in term of CLANS... all i saw by now is people with the "NO ONE CAN BEAT OUR CLAN" or things like "YOU DEFY ME, YOU DEFY THE WHOLE CLAN AND THE WHOLE CLAN WILL KICK YOUR BUTT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE". sorry but there was too much of that already !

i'm with shinjuko on that !
even thou i don't know what is happenning inside those clans, i had seen enough to tell me not to enter in any ! and there is no game i know where there is clan worth getting in. if KKS is so good at this, then your lucky but how come he sucessfully challenged other clan is something i doubt he can get ! too much |\|OOB clans !

sorry about this, but no one will ever succeed in getting me in their clan... i was alone and i will always be ! just like the amazing SPIDERMAN !

DARKPICCOLO 09-02-2002 09:13 PM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]sorry about this, but no one will ever succeed in getting me in their clan... i was alone and i will always be ! just like the amazing SPIDERMAN ![/quote]
yeah...we dont need no stinkin clans <!--emo&:D

DanYankees 09-03-2002 06:53 AM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]clans doesn't mean anything by now...
i mean, there is not even 2-on-2 tag matches !

clans haven't really been active in here but in other places !
i never really saw the REAL deal in term of CLANS... all i saw by now is people with the "NO ONE CAN BEAT OUR CLAN" or things like "YOU DEFY ME, YOU DEFY THE WHOLE CLAN AND THE WHOLE CLAN WILL KICK YOUR BUTT FOR THE REST OF YOUR LIFE". sorry but there was too much of that already !

i'm with shinjuko on that !
even thou i don't know what is happenning inside those clans, i had seen enough to tell me not to enter in any ! and there is no game i know where there is clan worth getting in. if KKS is so good at this, then your lucky but how come he sucessfully challenged other clan is something i doubt he can get ! too much |\|OOB clans !

sorry about this, but no one will ever succeed in getting me in their clan... i was alone and i will always be ! just like the amazing SPIDERMAN ![/quote]
no offence ssjkarma, but i don't think you've seen much of the clans. I dont even think you have a registered name at senshuk. There wasn't much talk of clans at this forum before senshuk was shut down. in the game, the only clans that say "no one can beat our clan!" are the #### clans. Sure, theyre are some #### clans, but they're also some well built clans. Some people put some hard work into building those clans, and those are the succesful ones.

SSJKarma 09-03-2002 08:26 PM

now tell me why those "well built" clan, aren't even heard of ?

! THIS IS THE REAL FORUM !

why talking about clans in other forum ?
just ask a section called CLANS !
i'm pretty sure tmyapp or lefty will just put it here.

and besides, tell me what clan do that i cannot have alone ?

sexyass 09-04-2002 04:59 AM

what other clan never heard of ?????

DanYankees 09-04-2002 07:01 AM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]now tell me why those "well built" clan, aren't even heard of ?

! THIS IS THE REAL FORUM !

why talking about clans in other forum ?
just ask a section called CLANS !
i'm pretty sure tmyapp or lefty will just put it here.

and besides, tell me what clan do that i cannot have alone ?[/quote]
Karma--I didn't understand much of what you said in that post.

machine1 09-04-2002 07:30 AM

[quote:post_uid0="wrestlemania"]I dont like ur idea...because the forum is already so slow....and this clan thing will make it worse...so why dont you guys forget about the clan wars?...its over now....[/quote]
true but we have: http://battle-grounds.vze.com
so clan forums here is useless

DARKPICCOLO 09-04-2002 02:54 PM

[quote:post_uid0="DanYankees"][quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]now tell me why those "well built" clan, aren't even heard of ?

! THIS IS THE REAL FORUM !

why talking about clans in other forum ?
just ask a section called CLANS !
i'm pretty sure tmyapp or lefty will just put it here.

and besides, tell me what clan do that i cannot have alone ?[/quote]
Karma--I didn't understand much of what you said in that post.[/quote]
i think Karma was sayin that the mods will probably add a clan section to this forum .....and that he has more fun being a loner cause clans dont do anything that is worth wild <!--emo&;)

SSJKarma 09-04-2002 03:11 PM

darkpiccolo: basicaly, that is what i meant !

translation:

1 - This is the original forum, why do you make clans on other ?
2 - what do clans have that i can't have when being not in a clan ?
example:
tournaments = i can join the WT when i want to
Friends = we are talking so i don't think we are ennemies
We have a leader = i prefer choosing my own path ! ;)
we do clan wars = what is it good for ? except starting endless flaming !
competition against other clan member = i just have to play and i will have some !

now tell me what clans are good for ?


DanYankee: i didn't joined senshuk, so what ? doe's that mean i know nothing ? i know what i have to know and that's ok for me... senshuk was just a SECONDARY forum that happen to have lots of THIS FORUM people ! i am asking you, why registering in another forum when all that will be said can be said in here ? the worst part is, those people started it all here then a certain QUASS came and asked for people to join his forum ! and then people did ! but what was the point in that ?

DanYankees 09-04-2002 04:34 PM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]darkpiccolo: basicaly, that is what i meant !

translation:

1 - This is the original forum, why do you make clans on other ?
2 - what do clans have that i can't have when being not in a clan ?
example:
tournaments = i can join the WT when i want to
Friends = we are talking so i don't think we are ennemies
We have a leader = i prefer choosing my own path ! ;)
we do clan wars = what is it good for ? except starting endless flaming !
competition against other clan member = i just have to play and i will have some !

now tell me what clans are good for ?


DanYankee: i didn't joined senshuk, so what ? doe's that mean i know nothing ? i know what i have to know and that's ok for me... senshuk was just a SECONDARY forum that happen to have lots of THIS FORUM people ! i am asking you, why registering in another forum when all that will be said can be said in here ? the worst part is, those people started it all here then a certain QUASS came and asked for people to join his forum ! and then people did ! but what was the point in that ?[/quote]
Just a little better organized "clan wars" would have done the trick. I wasn't around for the clan wars because i had had a 6 month break...but i had noticed that it took unbelievably long and was frustrating for Dan Hibiki and whoever else was organizing everything. There can still be a use for clans if there are more clan battles. The first weekly clan battle was a total upset, but after a couple of weeks the registered members of clans will show up.Even though every clan has a leader, u don't take orders from him. He is just there to organize and keep the clan in order.

Senshuk wasn't a forum EXACTLY like this one. Although senshuk had a lot of #####, this forum has a far greater amount of #####.

Senshuk was meant to be a forum mostly for the organization of clans (to answer your last comment about quass sending people from this forum over to senshuk), but later became a forum just to hang out. I personally liked senshuk better than this forum, well, because it had less #####. I was shocked when i came back from vacation to find it shut down.

Clans are good for participating in tourney's AS A TEAM. Your opinion is that you can do anything on your own like joining a tourney by yourself and just fighting without other members beside you, but many, as i do, like fighting side by side along with friends.

UniverseX 09-04-2002 05:52 PM

Clan sux....it sux ..lol ...

Clan just suxxxxxxxxxxxx :D

mastaq 09-04-2002 07:07 PM

SSJKarma: Leftyfb runs this forum off of a cable modem. so he couldnt support all of the extra activity clan forums bring. but none the less this place is infested with ####s and there is no getting around that. on another note the vast majority of people like clans. so stop trying to destroy that fact. if you dont like clans fine. but please dont bash them. :)

DanYankees 09-05-2002 10:08 AM

[quote:post_uid0="UniverseX"]Clan sux....it sux ..lol ...

Clan just suxxxxxxxxxxxx :D[/quote]
One of the many freaken ##### at this forum...a perfect example. He comes and posts in this thread by saying "clans suck." How much more retarded can you get. You know nothing about clans so you should really just shut up ya ####.

Thank you Dark Masta.

SSJKarma 09-05-2002 11:17 AM

Mastaq: i don't really bash at them...

i just want to know WHY you make a clan or simply why you join one !
what do they have, that you can't have when simply playing the game !
there is alot of answer, i know that, but all that i hear is that
it doesn't make sense joining a clan where you gain nothing
that you couldn't gain even before joining !

the best example would be fighting WITH friends !

example:
TarkanX / SSJKarma
VS
DanHibiki / DXZero

we aren't from any clan but we are friends and we fight !
so basicaly that motivation isn't even a gain at all cause even
when you're not in a clan you can have friend with whom you
fight with !

**this example is purly fictionnal**

now, where do i try to KILL clans by making people not to join them ?
it's people choice to enter or not ! but for me, i won't join any
clan because there is nothing that cannot be made alone !


EDIT:
DanYankee: by saying this you too get down to a level of stupidity !

why ? because you don't know him and still when you see the ###### under his name you think he doesn't know anything ! you were too you know and still i'm sure you knew what clan or certain other things were !

it isn't because you were longer than him here (FORUM) that you have the right to throw him some insult because he said something that YOU don't like !

DanYankees 09-05-2002 12:16 PM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]Mastaq: i don't really bash at them...

i just want to know WHY you make a clan or simply why you join one !
what do they have, that you can't have when simply playing the game !
there is alot of answer, i know that, but all that i hear is that
it doesn't make sense joining a clan where you gain nothing
that you couldn't gain even before joining !

the best example would be fighting WITH friends !

example:
TarkanX / SSJKarma
VS
DanHibiki / DXZero

we aren't from any clan but we are friends and we fight !
so basicaly that motivation isn't even a gain at all cause even
when you're not in a clan you can have friend with whom you
fight with !

**this example is purly fictionnal**

now, where do i try to KILL clans by making people not to join them ?
it's people choice to enter or not ! but for me, i won't join any
clan because there is nothing that cannot be made alone !


EDIT:
DanYankee: by saying this you too get down to a level of stupidity !

why ? because you don't know him and still when you see the ###### under his name you think he doesn't know anything ! you were too you know and still i'm sure you knew what clan or certain other things were !

it isn't because you were longer than him here (FORUM) that you have the right to throw him some insult because he said something that YOU don't like ![/quote]
karma ::shakes head::, is the only reason you are standing up for him is because he agreed with you that "clans sucked"?

Even if he was agreeing with me, i would still state how freaken stupid the #### is. You notice he just said "clans suck, clans suck, and clans suck"? WoW! great supporting eh?

It's obvious he knows nothing of clans. If he doesn't know anything about clans then he shouldn't talk.

I don't go by the amount of posts he has or his rank in the forum. My rank is VERY low, and i have about 65 posts. This proves i don't go by the forum rank because my rank is also very low. I'll lash back someone has has made a n00bish post whether its austin316 (no offence although i know you'll be mad) or in this case, UniverseX.

EDIT: i just found out UniverseX is actually austin316 :laugh:

DanYankees 09-08-2002 05:50 PM

bump

i planned to keep this freaken debate going karma!

machine1 09-14-2002 05:57 PM

[quote:post_uid0="DanYankees"][quote:post_uid0="UniverseX"]Clan sux....it sux ..lol ...

Clan just suxxxxxxxxxxxx :D[/quote]
One of the many freaken ##### at this forum...a perfect example. He comes and posts in this thread by saying "clans suck." How much more retarded can you get. You know nothing about clans so you should really just shut up ya ####.

Thank you Dark Masta.[/quote]
yes dan u are right. if anything he says clan suck because he isnt in 1! :0

DanYankees 09-20-2002 12:38 PM

where's karma been...did he just give up on this thread?

machine1 09-20-2002 12:47 PM

o karma has been here. u just never on i guess when karmas on


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