Joe, could you type up your whole attacks list and upload it to Mallarky or something? I want a POINT-COUNTERPOINT SKILL VS. SKILL DEBATE, not a, "I'll toss out what I want, and make everybody else wait until I feel like showing more," deal. This way that I propose is the ONLY way that this debate can possibly end.

Joe, just post your list and I'll post mine.

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Interesting list, Nantuko. Looks like someone did his homework. But, still, don't think you've won just because you've got a list of attacks that the dbz people use.

Why don't you sf fans stop frontin you dbz would destroy sf nuff said. Can a mod or admin delete or close theis topic now. :hmmm:

[quote]Ayatsuri no Majyutsu (Mind Control)
First used by: Bibidi
Color: N/A
Type: Other
This is the technique Babidi (and Bibidi) used to control anyone with evil in there heart. The "victim" gets an incredible energy boost, but can't help but do whatever Babidi says. Vegeta was able to not be fully controlled because of his pride, he would not allow himself to become a slave to anyone else

The series means jack-$hit...the manga says nothing of the sort. Babidi has a weak physical strength but very powerful magics. And it does not take time to control the victim, they're under control immediately.

And Dabura was ALWAYS under full control, and was controlled permanently. Vegeta, on the otherhand, was not fully controlled. This is ONLY because he said his pride would not allow him to become a slave, and nothing else (not 1/2 good, 1/2 evil; not too strong, but too prideful.

We're using ALL the DBZ characters, whether they're dead or alive or a frog at the end of DBZ: this is a battle between ALL the DBZ characters and ALL of the SF characters, so even characters who are dead (or about to die) in the SF storyline are allowd in this debate.

And all Ginyu has to do is the same body change: Punch a hole through his heart...do the change (if he changes with Gill, it's pretty much over) and destroy him.

And he doesn't need time to adjust to a new body: that was only in Goku's case because of Goku's body. Other bodies require no time to get used to.

The only two Buus in this debate are Kid Buu and Fat Buu...and we're talking about the Fat Buu that Kid Buu spit out near the end of DBZ...not the Fat Buu that made friends with Mr. Sataan and expelled his evil to form Thin Buu. Both Kid and Fat Buus have the Henka Beam ability...and both can use it to their advantages. The "real" Fat Buu can't be manipulated.

And I'm guessing you have nothing to say about the Kienzan...

If you're absorbed by Buu...you can't escape. When Buu absorbs someone, they go into a coma-like trance and are trapped inside cocoons inside of Buu. SSJ2 Vegetto was never truly absorbed: not only was it because of his strength, but he had seen the absorption before and figured out how to form a barrier to stop himself from being absorbed, which is why he was able to roam freely inside of Buu's insides. If they've never seen the absorbing before, and don't know how to form the barrier, there's no way to escape.

None of the SFers have ever seen the attack. They wouldn't know what it is, and prolly wouldn't know until it's too late.

And if it landed on their clothes, they don't know it turns ppl to stone. They wouldn't know until it was too late. Gohan knew to remove his glove because he'd seen the attack before, and knew that it turned ppl to stone. If the SFers don't know what the attack is, they can't remove the clothes quick enough, because they won't know they're turning to stone.

Plus, if he uses this after someone uses a Taiyoken, they won't see the attack and be able to dodge it.

How would a loud boom distract the Z fighters? Guile would be too busy holding his eyes (like EVERY SINGLE PERSON WHO'S EVER BEEN HIT BY THE TAIYOKEN HAS DONE) to form a Sonic Boom, and even if he did, he wouldnt' know where to aim it. Plus, it takes longer than that to recover from a Taiyoken to be able to fly away and know where yer going.

But a loud boom won't distract the Z fighters...that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. They would all be blinded, and the Z fighters would take advantage and attack.

He evaded it the second time around. If Roshi used it agianst an SFer, he wouldn't know what the hell it was. And once they're asleep, there's nothing they can do. It all rides on putting them to sleep.

[quote:post_uid0="TarkanX"]If SF, and DB fought(and on ground), who would win?

Post why you think each would win(and don't say dumb things like, "because gOkU cAnZ detrsoZ dA uNIverz"), back up your evidence also.[/quote]
ok i've seen this before but the z fighters would win any time cuz of speed,streath, and they can fly