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ok i misted about 65 pages.... mind fillin me in?

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Joe, Enma would never revive the Z warriors for something so very petty. You can't go against his personality. Through PURE AND UNADULTERATED LOGIC that part of your agument is done.

You can somehow argue that Shin Bison would cooperate with Ryu (loosely) and that Goku and Kid Buu would cooperate (loosely) as well using some argument (there's been such odd alliances in DBZ, like Vegeta and Goku), but the simple fact is that Enma doesn't give a damn.

When we began this debate, we never gave a damn about personalities. It was like this: all the SF characters teaming up to defeat all the DBZ characters. Who would win? Personalities are beside the point in this debate. Enma is just like any DBZ character. Fcuk his normal personality, in this situation, his only goal is to help the DBZ characters win. End of story.

If we were taking personalities into account, the fight would look like this:

Vegeta automatically attacks. Tien starts to use the Shin Kikoho. Goku pleads with Tien to stop, then says "SF characters, we'll beat you. We dont' want to fight you. Please go back to where you came from, we don't want to hurt you." And Kuririn, Chaozu, and Yamucha would merely run away.

However, we're not taking personality into account. Enma's powers are totally legal in this debate, end of story.

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Just have something to say(mostly against DB).

Wasn't this about the people that don't get killed is the winner? So why are people bringing up Emma? If your killed, you lose, even if you get revived, you still lose, since you died.

Therefore, by your logic, once Gill's body dies, then Gill's out of the fight. I quote from you "If your killed, you lose, even if you get revived, you still lose, since you died." Therefore, even if Gill has an infinite supply of new bodies waiting for him, he still loses, since his first body died, and therefore, he's automatically removed from the debate.

Let's end this debate then. Gill fries all of the Z fighters with unbearable temperatures, OR he can Seraphic Wing near-infinitely and disintegrate them all, OR he can freeze them and shatter them. End of story.

Um, yes? Joe, I'm afraid we've won this debate.

Just as instantly as Gill can raise the temperature, Goku can Shunkan Idou directly behind Gill and blast his ass into next week before Gill knows what hit him. Theoretically, the Warp Kamehameha (Power up Kamehameha, then Shunkan Idou behind opponent and fire) could accomplish this, and once Gill's first body is destroyed, he's eliminated. And dont' say "Seraph Wing", because Goku can fire the kamehameha INSTANTLY after reappearing behind Gill, so that Gill, even IF aware of Goku's presence, will not have enough time to manage a counterattack.

And just in case you try to bring this back up, Jurukogou can take care of Akuma. Akuma's Shun Goku Satsu is ineffective against Jurukogou, since he's an android, and therefore has no soul.

Dan, I'm afraid we've won the debate.

I say Seraphic Wing because, as you might've noticed from EVERY Z-fighter, they stand around and watch the person do the attack for the first time. Goku can't know what Gill is doing, and so they wait around and see what's up. In either case, Goku requires the necessary time to fire the Kame Hame Ha, and Gill can just fire off one of those Seraphic Wings near-infinitely.

Joe, we win and you lose.

[quote:post_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]Um, yes? Joe, I'm afraid we've won this debate.[/quote]
thoughs who try to end a debate so suddenly, know they're about to lose. sucks, huh dan?

[quote:post_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]I say Seraphic Wing because, as you might've noticed from EVERY Z-fighter, they stand around and watch the person do the attack for the first time. Goku can't know what Gill is doing, and so they wait around and see what's up. In either case, Goku requires the necessary time to fire the Kame Hame Ha, and Gill can just fire off one of those Seraphic Wings near-infinitely.

Joe, we win and you lose.[/quote]
No. When Goku first arrived on Namek, Rikkum was gonna try and use his Rikkum Bomber, but as you remember, Goku knocked him out. When Goku fought Android 19, he didn't wait and see if he had any special abilities, he just started to beat the crap out of him. When Goku fought Yakon, he didn't see if he had any special abilities, he just blew the fcuker up. When SSJ3 Goku fought Buu (1st time), he didn't wait to see any special abilities, he just fought him.

When USSJ1 Vegeta fought SP Cell, Vegeta didn't wait and see if Cell was gonna use any special attacks, he just beat the crap out of him, pausing only to allow him to absorb Juuhachigou. Same as USSJ1 Trunks: When SP Cell was gonna absorb Juu, Trunks beat the crap out of him.

When Piccolo fought Cell (1st time), Piccolo didn't say "Hmm...he's got my ki. And Goku's. and Gohan's. Lemme wait and see what his abilities are." He just fought him, with no care to their special abilities.

My point is, when they're facing a strong opponent, they dont' wait and see their attacks. They just beat the crap out of them. Therefore, they'd see Gil powering up for a Seraph Wing (or sense his ki), then be afraid and pound him.

And Goku doesn't need THAT much time to charge a Kamehameha. It'll go like this (about the speed at which you read this:

"Ka.........me...........ha...........me.......... "

*teleports*

"Ha!"

Gill wouldn't know what hit him.

BTW: What type of attack is Seraph Wing? Beam? Projectile? Shield?

Seraphic wing is an immensely destructive expansive barrier. It covers EVERYTHING around Gill when he does it, and is the power of a God on Earth.

Joe, you are missing the point. As soon as somebody STARTS to do an ability, they stand around and twitch violently saying things like, "No... this... can't be..." and then the person does it.

Goku's Kame Hame Ha requires time to prepare. Seraphic Wing can be thrown out instantaneously.