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(ShinKu_Ryu) 04-01-2004 05:13 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Resident Evil"]lol... yo i cant used helpers during the raging demon... some ppl just do rd and u dont see them doing and boom u get dark screen and u cant do nothing about it... i think helpers shouldbe used during an rd cause u cant stop it any way...[/quote]
I know when someone is going to do the raging demon.!! :D So helpers are really usefull

azncat 04-01-2004 07:12 PM

when you use helpers how about they take away like a quarter of your level super bar thingy?

(DJ-Eric) 04-01-2004 08:03 PM

thats pretty stupid cause i've seen some lag that is major and helpers kept coming out so i would have kept losing level.. and plus thats pretty dumb how about for spiral she has 9 that would take alot out and would be annoying when ur just about to do something ???



Edited By (DJ-Eric) on April 01 2004 at 23:05

azncat 04-01-2004 08:50 PM

well at least it be good against akuma users...

Yami08 04-02-2004 01:24 PM

I think they should get rid of Spiral. She sort of good, but when I gget hit with a super and she comes out, I won't worp until after The move!. :angryfire:

(ShinKu_Ryu) 04-02-2004 02:43 PM

Well.......think we need more helpers. ???

Resident Evil 04-02-2004 03:28 PM

what i think is to keep spiral but let her teleport you out of the special... like uh maybe take you behind your opponent...

azncat 04-02-2004 04:35 PM

get rid of spiral... usually when i use her it wont teleport me out of special till like i move or until like 10 sec...

wargun 04-05-2004 10:07 AM

I think you should let spiral teleport u in the sky instead when i use her i usually just teleport closer to the special or she doesn't teleport me till it's done either way i still lose health and she don't do squat against the raging demon. And i think u should be able to do like a helper special counter like the helper does your special for you while you are blocking. It would be cool for the raging demon

Angel-Eyes 04-05-2004 01:59 PM

i think spirals help should come instantly instead of her coming out and doing a little dance or whatever.

id rather hit the helper button and be teleported instantly

NAX 04-11-2004 11:18 AM

wouldn't it be kinda nice to have a classic mode
without helpers!
Just supers like Alpha 3's ones.
Mabey even allow playing with the old characters like guile.

Theres something about the origonal game that I still like. But it's graphics are soo crap compared to SFO!

SBYRD5 04-19-2004 04:49 PM

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Sagat As A helper.

He appears and his chest begins to glow at that very moment your Level gauge would increase by half.

Or your opposing fighter's level gauge will decrease by half...

Or if your fighting Ryu both status effects will proceed..LOL*Serious*

There should be 6 Sagats in your helper quantity corner.....because calling him two times would make.

1 Level Guage. or subtract 1 level gauge.

Calling him for an assist 4 times.

Would make level 2. or subtract 2 levels already gained....or gain one level and your opposing fighter loses one level gauge,or your gauge increases by 1 & 1/2 ,and your opposing fighter decreases by half,or your opposing fighter loses 1 level & 1/2 and you gain 1/2 level guage.

Calling him the MAX number of times would make.

Your level guage at it's max which would allow you to perform 3 hyper moves.Your Enemy at no level guages...just 0.Your level gauge at 2...While That Fighter's gauge is at one or lower.You see where this is going....=/

Basicily Make it so that you gain level gauge kai.If your enemy's gauge is lower than 1,but if it's highier than 1 they lose half a kai level gauge.

Also if you come near sagat you will be knocked away,but recieving no damage.


So basicily,

A death move like Raging Demon which requires 3 levels.

You could postpone the rage by calling SAGAT!!!!


<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>SAGAT</span>
</span>

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fi.../sf-sagat2.gif

*PLease remove Sakura as a helper and make her a playable character someday...please*
==============================================

<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>BIRDIE & Eagle</span>

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Well Birdie could have this Sick Dashing Chain Drive back and forward on the screen.

He will walk from off screen.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fi...die-walkin.gif


He would pose like this when he's first call out.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fi...rdie-intro.gif

Then he would get in this stance putting his knife at the opposing player.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fi...witchblade.gif

Then he would perform his Physco Chain Drive Special....Dashing from The left or Right of the screen to the opposing Side and back.Then back to the opposing side.

Like so.

1======>
<=======2
3========>

And he would end with this move.....

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fi...e-overhead.gif

This move will take 1/8 Damage if hit fully.

(I realize this last movement won't hit often,but if it does....make it subtract 1/16 health)

You would have</span> <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>2</span> <span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Birdie's in your quantity helper box because of this kinda special in all fairness.


Now for Eagle he's so awesome I'll get back to you on that.</span>




Edited By SBYRD5 on April 19 2004 at 20:56

BurstinTiger 04-21-2004 08:39 AM

Sagat's a bad idea, I think, since the computer has infinite helpers==>infinite levels==>infinite Raging Demon's. I think the helper's shouldn't be allowed to throw out when the opponent preforms a super move, or when the opponent is hurt. Helpers like Juggernaut (4 is far too much, anyways) can truly wreck your game since he's big, so if you just jumped you will never be able to dodge it. 4 of this tricks make you lose far too much health. This was my say, hehe..bye

RyusRevenge 04-22-2004 11:14 AM

i say forget about helpers to stop supers, i liked tmyapps idea where a helper could be used to increase the gauge level, maybe by 1 full level........yes i decided 1 full level, maybe 4 of these, and maybe some kind of aura( just a flash) around them to show that the oponent has activated it.

pip99 04-23-2004 09:56 AM

Quote:

He appears and his chest begins to glow at that very moment your Level gauge would increase by half.


Nah thats not good man........maybe you had a helper that makes you go level 3 and u get 2 of em or somethink

ZEROne_ 04-24-2004 12:55 AM

I think Fei-Long would be a good helper

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fi...eilongkick.gif

davipa21 04-24-2004 06:05 AM

just add one more helper like gambit or something

Angel-Eyes 04-24-2004 06:52 AM

it think that for spiral when you call her out she should teleport you immediately instead of you waiting for her to do her little dance.

04-24-2004 09:02 AM

[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"]<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Sagat As A helper.

He appears and his chest begins to glow at that very moment your Level gauge would increase by half.

Or your opposing fighter's level gauge will decrease by half...

Or if your fighting Ryu both status effects will proceed..LOL*Serious*

There should be 6 Sagats in your helper quantity corner.....because calling him two times would make.

1 Level Guage. or subtract 1 level gauge.

Calling him for an assist 4 times.

Would make level 2. or subtract 2 levels already gained....or gain one level and your opposing fighter loses one level gauge,or your gauge increases by 1 & 1/2 ,and your opposing fighter decreases by half,or your opposing fighter loses 1 level & 1/2 and you gain 1/2 level guage.

Calling him the MAX number of times would make.

Your level guage at it's max which would allow you to perform 3 hyper moves.Your Enemy at no level guages...just 0.Your level gauge at 2...While That Fighter's gauge is at one or lower.You see where this is going....=/

Basicily Make it so that you gain level gauge kai.If your enemy's gauge is lower than 1,but if it's highier than 1 they lose half a kai level gauge.

Also if you come near sagat you will be knocked away,but recieving no damage.


So basicily,

A death move like Raging Demon which requires 3 levels.

You could postpone the rage by calling SAGAT!!!!


<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>SAGAT</span>
</span>

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fi.../sf-sagat2.gif

*PLease remove Sakura as a helper and make her a playable character someday...please*
==============================================

<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>BIRDIE & Eagle</span>

<span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Well Birdie could have this Sick Dashing Chain Drive back and forward on the screen.

He will walk from off screen.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fi...die-walkin.gif


He would pose like this when he's first call out.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fi...rdie-intro.gif

Then he would get in this stance putting his knife at the opposing player.

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fi...witchblade.gif

Then he would perform his Physco Chain Drive Special....Dashing from The left or Right of the screen to the opposing Side and back.Then back to the opposing side.

Like so.

1======>
<=======2
3========>

And he would end with this move.....

http://www.fightersgeneration.com/fi...e-overhead.gif

This move will take 1/8 Damage if hit fully.

(I realize this last movement won't hit often,but if it does....make it subtract 1/16 health)

You would have</span> <span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>2</span> <span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>Birdie's in your quantity helper box because of this kinda special in all fairness.


Now for Eagle he's so awesome I'll get back to you on that.</span>
[/quote]
The Way He Walks Its Like Hes From Streets Of Rage lol.
Btw If You Wanna Know How To Choose HelperClick Here

For Nousouls Page.

Also The Ix Things Stand For Arrow Keys. Lp Stands for Low Punch p1 Mp Medium Punch p2 Hp High Punch p3. Same For Kick

:buttrock: :D :laugh: :laughlong:

Restavega 04-28-2004 07:05 PM

A good helper could be Collosus.. maybe he comes out, poses, and your next landed attack does more damage whether it be a jab or a Super...... and you only get 2 of him.

TitanX59 04-28-2004 07:21 PM

that would cause to much lag man, something more simple like making sentinel run and hit the opponet like the one TarkanX used to have, except his was red

Restavega 04-28-2004 07:35 PM

Your right... How about a Collosus that runs out and goes straight through the screen and if he makes contact with an opponent along the way, he gives them a devastating grab and throws them into the ground (or whatever his grab move is, I can't remember). This way, it can be easily avoided but if he gets you.. your in for a world of hurt! You should only have one of him too.

Angel-Eyes 04-29-2004 05:11 AM

I hope if there is another helper that it will be one that you can combine your moves with to cause more damage and not just to stop your opponents special.

like combining crawler assault with dr.doom.

thats good stuff there :buttrock:

Restavega 04-29-2004 08:44 AM

Or how about a helper that burns the floor for a breif second but it does major damage?! Dhalsim anyone...

ZEROne_ 05-09-2004 03:05 AM

i got an idea for the capt. america helper. i think capt. americas charging star move should be able to go through a moves like on MvsC. for example, when ryu does a shin hadoken capt. america will charge right through it and hit him to make him stop. and u will only get to use it 2 times or 1 time per round.

Restavega 05-13-2004 06:57 AM

Sweet idea.

Hadouken2yoursystem 05-17-2004 11:38 AM

I disagree.

Nosoul4Sfo 05-26-2004 10:19 AM

i conquer with that idea i mean who cant agree with that :D

Vash 06-02-2004 04:04 PM

Keep the helpers the way they are or u can make the characters hits more affective.

linbei 06-15-2004 04:16 AM

i think it'll be cool if there is a big helper eg. hulk who does a diff move instead of bashing shoulder onto the opponent... he can perhaps tear a large piece of ground to hit the opponent
it may be interesting if a helper can increase ur life but only allow it to increase a little to be fair
wouldn't want to fight sum1 who uses code to get such helper and keep using him

06-20-2004 06:05 AM

Howbout adding bison and wen bison comes out,he does that phsyco crusher dive.

Angel-Eyes 06-20-2004 06:06 AM

[quote:post_uid0="linbei"]i think it'll be cool if there is a big helper eg. hulk who does a diff move instead of bashing shoulder onto the opponent... he can perhaps tear a large piece of ground to hit the opponent[/quote]
gamma crush. it would be different because he comes from above


the power would have to be toned down ALOT cause that move is really powerful



Edited By kester- on June 20 2004 at 09:07

LAB~MONSTER 06-20-2004 10:45 AM

I think we should have a helper that helps you block. Like a guard helper. Well I think it souds cool. not really block, like it creates a shield for like 10 secs Where it reduces the power of the hits.



Edited By LAB~MONSTER on June 20 2004 at 13:47

Lil_Gohan 06-21-2004 06:09 AM

this isnt a gud idea but howbout a helper that u need to be at level 2 to use or somethin and all the helper does is prevent ur opponent for attackin u for a few seconds and during those seconds u can build up levels for RD :D

ok screw thats waznt a gud idea i mean like ur opponent freezing u wud think he lose sync or somethin :angry:

hmmm?
howbout this idea is really gud its sort of like ma otha 1 excpet a helper that keeps ur opponent in 1 spot, that will help a lot and i mean a lot of pplz cause when u hit ur opponent with a super and they dont lose life they say they moved :angryfire: and i hate that so much soooooooo a helper that keeps ur opponent in 1 spot wud help

Evil-Blanka 06-21-2004 06:49 AM

[quote:post_uid0="iori"]All i want to see are new helpers[/quote]
i say invisible and by invisable i mean no shadow on the ground so you can get your opponent

alamgir 06-23-2004 10:57 AM

So when do we get these helpers?

killzone 06-27-2004 10:22 AM

Yo guys im new here :) i have a problem,, with story mode won a couple of games but no charatcter is unlock and with the story mode=dawn of rains ore something after the defeating of dark ryu and ken it wont continue is that naturel ore what and bij storymode=awaking i cant pass unslaught he is to good for me so can some one help me with that thanks already :D :p

killzone 06-27-2004 10:26 AM

and i have another problem how you do that picture under youre name ? ???

Lil_Gohan 06-27-2004 10:37 AM

first of all killzone, u have to fight only against otha real players to unlock characters

and the picture under ur signature is a banner. go to google and look for a picture, anykind of picture. then save the picture. put it on paint or adobe photoshop cs then put ur name on it.
or just ask some 1 else to make u 1. ma good friend dmx will be happy to :laugh:

MasterX05 06-27-2004 11:00 AM

Venom Is <span style='font-size:12pt;line-height:100%'>GARBAGE!!</span> Plz give him a diffrent move to do that bite is to dam slow. And there is like 50% chance he will miss. Guile and Sprail are like way better then him. I cant even see no use for him. Cant u make him do that smbotic black thing like spider man. but make it smaller and go threw the screen faster doing lesser damage


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