[quote:post_uid0="2000warrior"]The United State's pretext for attacking Iraq in the first place was pathetic. In it's entirety, Iraq's invasion of Kuwait only mimics the irony of how the US came to be such a powerful nation. Just look at your history... the Mexican-American war, the Spanish-American War, the Louisiana purchase, the Siox/Indian Wars, the Philopines, Hawaii, , etc.. etc... These are all instances of the US gobelling up smaller and weaker people/nations for the United State's sole benifit. Oppresion of other people and forcing other nations to comply with US dominance because it became an industrial giant have all been common place in the United States. And I can't help but point out the irony of your "great nation" by showing that it's nothing more then a common fraud. Fair to its people by all means. Fair to other people, it has never been.[/quote]
what idiot told u that?

the louisiana purschase: france needed money and offered the land to the US.

The Panama Revolution: a canal was desperately needed due to what happen during the spanish american war. the US was gonna built, but columbia wouldnt allow it, even after roosevelt offered $10,000,000 plus $250,000. what jackass would decline that much money? so they had the pple of panama, which hated the oppression, fight back and the US aided with one battleship. or two, i not sure how many.

Hawaii: another damn purschase. no force was even used.

The Siox/Indian Wars: now right there the US was wrong.

i want to know what jackass told u this since u reserched.

No jackass told me that... it's all my own deductions about how the US has opperated.

the louisiana purchase: France didn't even have a single troop in the territory, and it was givin to France before that by Spain... which in turn had 0 troops in there and only "owned" the land due to fruitless claims that dated back to the age of exploration. The only owners of that land were the native americans that lived there. This purchase only lead to the destruction of their lives and continued American expansion into Mexican territory.

The Panama Revolution: At what point were the people being oppressed? And at what point did the US all of a sudden own Colombian territory? Answer to both questions: never. The US ####### bribed the Panamese to revolt. Notice how the casualty rate was at 0? Yeah, they really felt strongly against their oppressors... the US friggin instigated the whole thing. It was a big scandel, cooked up by some of J.P. Morgan's men and Roosevelt (and others I can't recall).

The US just had to have their way, and after offering 40 mil. to the French contractors to build a canal through New Granada, they offered half that much (20 mil. plus 250 grand per year after that for... can't remember how long) to New Granda to purchase the land. Seeing as the French got a hell of a lot more, they refused (in hopes to get more money).

At some point in your reasoning, does it seems logical enough to go ahead and break the Clayton-Bulwer Treaty (mentioned earlier in this debate), and force the US will upon another nation? And you know what this was used for don't you? Increased mobility of the navy.

Hawaii: Reffer to that except from my history book I took so long in typing up just for people who like to argue with me :biggrin:

But thanks for mentioning that I researched it :biggrin:
It takes a lot of time to actually look up some of this crap, since no one else feels like getting their facts right...



Edited By 2000warrior on Jan. 24 2003 at 00:16

stupid 2000warrior, assuming you're so umm.. thoughtless, my last post was just a mere compliment to all your contributive posts to this topic i started.. thats all :angryfire: ;) even a little kid could understand that..

i read your posts and i'm intrigued.. but dang, i have to go college now (man i come online oftenly just before i go and just before i leave college: weird ??? )

ok ok.. i will add my posts soon.. honest i will.. i think 2000warrior has become too precious of this topic.. but i'll have to jump in soon because i believe i have all the facts and files to my disposal which will make you understand properly.. 2000warrior, joe and all.. you're doing great with the back up of your quotes but i think its time you let me hop in.. lol!!!!!!! :buttrock:

ps: as a scientist myself, i just would like to add that iraq does not pose any threat at all according to the lack of rescources it contains! the possession of weapons of mass destruction are CRYSTAL CLEAR in north korea..

reason why america failed to act against that "obvious" threat is unknown.. but i can assure you.. this war is not for the possession of oil.. you can consider another big difference..

anyway seeya guys, definitely post in the "best posts" soon..

chow :alien:

man but i still can't believe it.. everyone is posting all these serious posts to the cutting edge of importance in this forum.. thanks to me.. wow!!!

yey.. should feel proud :)

[quote:post_uid8="Yasback"]because of me :D i started this topic.. lol this is so amazing :buttrock: wow yey!!![/quote:post_uid8]
BCOZ OF YOU?

hey kid, i already did this kind of topic

check in here

(yawns) boring dude ???

well one thing i just hope the war isnt against just muslims becos i am a muslim and there r a lot of racist people out there who r racist against muslims

[quote:post_uid0="Yasback"]stupid 2000warrior, assuming you're so umm.. thoughtless, my last post was just a mere compliment to all your contributive posts to this topic i started.. thats all :angryfire: ;) even a little kid could understand that..

i read your posts and i'm intrigued.. but dang, i have to go college now (man i come online oftenly just before i go and just before i leave college: weird ??? )

ok ok.. i will add my posts soon.. honest i will.. i think 2000warrior has become too precious of this topic.. but i'll have to jump in soon because i believe i have all the facts and files to my disposal which will make you understand properly.. 2000warrior, joe and all.. you're doing great with the back up of your quotes but i think its time you let me hop in.. lol!!!!!!! :buttrock:

ps: as a scientist myself, i just would like to add that iraq does not pose any threat at all according to the lack of rescources it contains! the possession of weapons of mass destruction are CRYSTAL CLEAR in north korea..

reason why america failed to act against that "obvious" threat is unknown.. but i can assure you.. this war is not for the possession of oil.. you can consider another big difference..

anyway seeya guys, definitely post in the "best posts" soon..

chow :alien:[/quote]

Uh.. you see, this is what I'm getting pissed at.

You're making the same mistake everyone else is and <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>not READING my posts</span>. It's obvious you're skipping/skiming over it because if you HAD read it, you'd notice the only time I mentioned your name was that I skipped over you responses (now read), because your posts lack something vital for me to comprehend them....

<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>U NEEDZ MORE SENTANCE STUCTUR</span>

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Stupid yasback, assuming you're so umm... thoughtless, my last post(s) was just directed towards other people, and NOT you. Even a toddler could understand.

I read your posts and i'm getting brain damage from their lack of information and their continued childish behavior. But dang, I have to disbelieve you're going to college because these posts look like they're made by an 8 year old.

ok ok... I will git off your back if you make a concited effort to quit acting like a kid, and act your claimed age. I think if you want to "hop in", by all means, do so (notice there are no set teams in this debate or anything).

ps: if you are a scientist, I find it very hard to believe seeing as your posts lack any structure of any sort and contain about 0 subject matter to the debate at hand.

Reason why America failed to act against that "obvious" threat of North Korea is CRYSTAL CLEAR (they actually pose a threat and DO contain weapons of mass destruction, and might actually use them, wheras the US knows Saddam doesn't even rival that capability).



Edited By 2000warrior on Jan. 24 2003 at 15:18

if we need to go to war i say we do it. why wait? why give iraq a chance to attack us in an ambush... if we go there and surprise them we can win, but if bush keeps waiting, they will attack us in surprise, sadam is a crazy man he will do anything to be dominant ,

he is not someone u can trust, he will want to get the us outta their way, war happening---- its gonna happen, but we can get a head start, so i say bush uses common sense and prepares hisdam army to go to war before they attack first

this is all BS ..USA sux