do you really know gambit ?

i didn't say he could charge an object and throw it at them !
HE CAN CHARGE THE PERSON ITSELF ! (who can resist an inside explosion) well... cell can, but that's not the point !

GAMBIT:
he can crge anything that can take KINETICS energy. (the body can take that) he doesn'T need to use the energy IN the thing he's charging. he can take that same kinetic enegy from his surrounding !

he can just charge vegeta or goku if has a grab at them and then charge them up... after a while they will explode and it will be death for them !

but i did say that DBZ would win in a XMEN vs DBZ fight as there is too much for the XMEN to do to really be able to drop on DBZ chars ! but i also said that DBZ would have a hard time killing those XMEN !

BISHOP:
can absorb ANY BLAST as his power is absorbing energy what ever the kind !
he also has unlimited absorbing capacity as long as he doesn't keep it !
example: gambit throwed a card at him and bishop absorbed it
cyclops biggest beam can destroy the biggest mountain in the existing world... i think it's pretty equals to the most biggest blast in DBZ !

the only dif. is the DBZ blast explode and cyclops balst don't !

ummm...do you WATCH DBZ? DBZ's have the ability to destroy planets. Cyclops doesn't have the ability to blow up Mt. Everest, nonetheless something the size of a planet

I'm pretty sure that if he gets hit with a Death Ball (Furiza's staple attack), or a Final Flash, that Bishop wouldn't be able to absorb it and shoot it back simultaneously. Those are very large attacks (the Death Ball is the size of a tiny moon). Bishop would be too busy trying to absorb all that energy, but he wouldn't have anywhere to shoot it back, because there would be so much energy left over.

Take a look at the death ball Furiza threw at SSJ goku. He caught it, but there was no way he could shoot anything else back at Furiza because the Death Ball was too big and if he let go of it to shoot furiza the death ball would have exploded and killed him. Bishop wouldn't be able to do anything, and by time he absorbed the entire attack, the energy would be too much to contain for ANY period of time, and he would die

He wouldn't be able to grab on to GOku and Vegeta in the first place. Goku and Vegeta can move faster than sound. When Goku was on Namek, he OUTRAN AN EXPLOSION when he was in the immediate center of it. That's how fast the Z fighters are. Gambit may have slight superhuman speed, but nothing as compared to the Z Fighters.

And even if he DOES nab hold of Goku or Vegeta, he can't charge up that much energy in a millisecond, it would take him a long time to charge up all the energy that Goku and Vegeta contain. And in that time they could simply knock him away.

yep Nantuko i agree X-men does not really stand a chance against DBZ. Sorry all you X-men lovers, and DBZ haters its true. :D

it's not perfectly accurates !

let's just say that even the most formidable fighter in the world make mistakes !

VEGETA for example...
GOKU have done lots of that too !

even the fastest guy in the world can't run forever as to fight he will have to fight HAND-TO-HAND so in that time even the slowest guy can have the time to grab onto someone !

for the rest your pretty right !

**attention attention**
for all that debate has become !
all i have seen are arguments that INCLUDE BLAST THROWING
i have tryed to argument on HAND-TO-HAND combat but none of you rely on those !

example:
"...but vegeta's big bang attack can destroy gambit easily !..."
"...but goku can just throw a big Kamehameha and destroy them all..."
"but cyclops can't duel against the final flash"
"...they can BLOW up planets !..."

it's all that has got into this debate !

HAND-TO-HAND combat are possible as even goku or vegeta has to get down to the level of gambit or wolvie in a close range fight !

again, i never said MARVEL would win against DBZ did i ?
i said they would put a great fight before getting killed !
why ?
again there is too much MARVEL characters in that can simply crush DBZ chars !

as for the speed of the DBZ chars !
a saibaymen have sucessfully grabbed onto YAMCHA and yamcha was way faster then it ! the speed in a fight isn't all that count and you all are making comment as the characters were PERFECT in every single move they do ! scuse me but vegeta is so STUBORN that even the weakest being can go and trap him !

again...
in a CLOSE RANGE FIGHT (hand to hand) MARVEL has all their chances !

for the cyclops blast...
that were you don't know cyclops nantuko !
in comic book he said himself that his beam in RAW MODE can destroy the biggest mountain in the world ! go look the strenght of his blast in WWW.MARVEL.COM and you'll know what i meant !

yes he cannot destroy a planet but he sure can destroy lots of hit with one single blast + his energy beam is UNLIMITED and goku or vegeta 's energy isn't !
why ?
because they use KI and cyclops energy is procuce in MASS he doesn't use his KI !

You people write alot!!!! I go with DBZ too!!! :tongue2:

You're all forgetting one entity. Pheonix.

(Dark Piccolo throws water on Pheonix)

DONE & DONE :lol:

HA!......just felt like doing that! ??? :p

well believe me or not but i think Dragonballz will win... .:biggrin:

I think so too! It's that they can turn into Super Sayen (not sure if spelled right!) and hell will break lose! :p