think not only hadoken is fact every art of shooting, speacially in case of da ahh dont get the name yet blua glasses X.men


think its really cheap u make just shootings and its done. I mean u cant come out there and if u r faster back in there then u could damg him.

:angryfire:

sorry your all still arguing..

you all
SUCK!!!

if every1 ryu player jsut kept dion hadoken on me id go...yes.

u skilless twats.

high jump all you have 2 do kids is press down then up...try it..

if you REALLY REALLY wanna beat a hadonken noob use cyclops or spiderman.or use skill with ryu

[quote:post_uid0="pip99"]sorry your all still arguing..

you all
SUCK!!!

if every1 ryu player jsut kept dion hadoken on me id go...yes.

u skilless twats.

high jump all you have 2 do kids is press down then up...try it..

if you REALLY REALLY wanna beat a hadonken noob use cyclops or spiderman.or use skill with ryu[/quote]
umm i agree with pip

I personally use spider-man, but ppl really need to stop b**chin' about Ryu, because if YOU really had skill you would be able to get passed the hadukens.

[quote:post_uid0="UrbanNinja"]I personally use spider-man, but ppl really need to stop b**chin' about Ryu, because if YOU really had skill you would be able to get passed the hadukens.[/quote]
UrbanNinja: (and others) If you read this entire topic. You'd see that it has nothing to do with being able to stop the tactic.

Take some time to read please.

Krama: Wow..the first to agree with me, theres hope for this topic yet. :D



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 04 2003 at 08:04

nosoul4evr: Your poll choices explicitly say:

- Yes, Hadokens are abused and need to be limited...Players need to learn a new technique.
- NO! Dont change the Hadoken..I'd have no skill then.

1st point: Hadoukens needing to be limited? If you're referring to limiting the number of times you use them then (as has been said before EVERY time a topic turns up like this), then it will never happen. If you did that, tneh people would bitch to get optic blasts limited... or web ball's... or drill claws... or Sentinel Beams... practically anything you can think of that's remotely cheap.

However, I am not without sympathy for your cause. There are way too many unskilled people who really 100% on hadoukens even when they know how to do other moves (ex: aftermath does this all the time, but I've seen him do dragon punches and other "regular" moves when you get too close in on him)... and losing to these people does nothing but piss you off. But I'll direct your attention to the main problem here... 2 things that happen that make the hadouken very annoying.

1st its response rate is a bit too fast... you'll notice this was the problem with slide claw and optic sweep, but both have been toned down without hadoukens being touched. That I would consider a reasonable adjustment/complaint to TMyApp.

2nd, any/all projectile moves jack up your super metter much too quickly. Go into the game and test out raising your level bar with hp hadoukens against lp hadoukens. It's something like half the speed (if you stand right next to the ai since lp is a lot slower in traveling). Even at that kind of speed... it jacks up your super meter too fast. I'd suggest dramatically dropping that (to something like raising your level bar by only 1 grey bar) for all fast projectiles.

2nd point: Pip's arguements are made pretty legitimate by that comment that little comment that "I'd have no skill" for the no choice... especially if they're under the impression that you want it limited as in how many times you can use it. If you want 10 non cheap Ryu users, here they are:
*note: non because it's spelled that way. None means nothing at all (dictionary.com).

- DarkVirus
- Doomtrain
- Case
- Tidus2K2
- myself
- you (apparently you say so)
- Dark Masta
- pip99
- DX Zero
- supersaiyanz10
- DA_VIPA

Nope the idea is not to limit the amount of Hadokens..but the responce time...and possibly remove the ability ot "stack" (...the ability to preset ) the second hadoken before the first has hit your opponent.

I wouldnt worry about the poll...it's meant only for players that are with me, to cast a vote....those that are against me vote that "they got no skill then"
If ya got skill and are against me..then you dont vote.



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 04 2003 at 17:44

i'm a non cheap ryu user =/

"ex: aftermath does this all the time, but I've seen him do dragon punches and other "regular" moves when you get too close in on him"

thats very non-offensive. :angry:

OMG this game is full of babies. Nosoul- u r trying to do exactly what the baby Zing79 did. Limit or change something in the game because u cant win against it and you dont think it is fair. Jesus christ, has anyone here EVER played the original game? As soon as one haduken has hit the person the next haduken comes out. ITs how the game was made. Do u see anyone complaining about that on mame or FBA? I have compared the timing of ryu's haduken and cyclop's optic blast in mame and this game and the only one that doesnt seem to be true to the REAL game is cyclop's optic blast. Ryu's haduken seem's to be right, but cyclop's optic blast comes out faster. RYU"S HADUKEN IS NO DIFFERENT IN THIS GAME THEN IN THE ORIGINAL!!!!!!!!!!!! Its just that with all the horrible lag in the game that it seem's to be cheap. So shut up nosoul!!!!!!! God damn it, why is it that when someone feels that something is cheap in this game that they can post and try to limit everything? It's real annoying. There were once tourney's for the REAL game, and if someone felt that someone's move was faster then the others they never tried to make rules against it, they had to deal with it and overcome it. None of the "vs" series games are balanced, but its something that EVERYONE has had to adapt to and overcome, that is how u find the best of the best in these "vs" series games. STOP BEING A BABY AND GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!