[quote:post_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]Cell didn't know what the hell was going on and was caught off-guard by it. Plus, he couldn't have done anything because he was about to detonate.[/quote]
How do you know that? Was it stated in the manga that Cell didn't know what was going on? And just because he COULDN'T resist the teleportation, does that mean that other ppl CAN resist the teleportation just by NOT WANTING to be teleported? That is a load of bull

Well, if he wants to counter the Henka beam with the Seraph WIng, he'll NEED to know that it's coming. Otherwise, he will not know the beam is coming, and then be transformed into candy.

Ha! Find another angle!

Before Vegetto tries to KO Gill, Gill burns Vegetto melting him, then Gill dodges the Henka Beam.

You don't have to grapple them, with Goku, it takes some seconds(maybe 10) to teleport from one place to another, and with East Kaioshin, it's the samething, except E. Kaioshin is much faster, though they'd have to touch Gill, And Gill is always throwing flames and increasing the weather(if you didn't understand what I just said, just say you didn't, and I'll explain it again.)

Gill doesn't have to grapple an opponent to win. And about Buu, and his skin, that is a good strategy, but Gill melts off part of his skin. Remember that you have to destroy Buu to completely win, Burning just gets rid of his bio parts(if he has any), it can be just like against Cell.

It's not that simple

I'd show you the pages on AIM, I can't put pics on the net from my HDD, since I don't know how to. And you don't have to grapple the opponent to teleport them.

Yes Gill does lose energy, only because of the present body he's in. But he can heal himself back, he doesn't waste as much energy as humans, he's like a DB"Z" character, he can throw Seraphic Wings for a LONG LONG time.

hmm... wait a minute, Gill can't be teleported to the afterlife. When Shin Akuma did the shun goku satsu, which sends your soul to hell, and the demons destroy your soul, Gill simply got back up. So doing the shun goku satsu, and teleporting your soul to hell is basically the samething.

Though Cell didn't want to go somewhere other than earth(which was where he was at the point), he was too busy bloating himself, so he couldn't do anything about it.

I found out some calculations, on speed, and that Gotenks can go 115 miles per second. Goku can lift 10 tons, and SSJ Goku can lift 40 tons(all in the Buu saga).

What if the henka beam hits Gill before he has the chance to melt Vegetto? And besides, I'm sure Vegetto would be able to manage a shield against the heat, or teleport away from it. Either way, it IS POSSIBLE that Gill may drop his guard for half a moment, and that's all it takes to be hit by the beam.

You originally said that they had to grapple an opponent. Anyways, it takes Goku a long-ass time to teleport because his Shunkan Idou requires a ki target, and it takes a while to separate an individual ki target from millions of others.

Kibito's (and also Kaiobito's) teleportation, however, does not require a ki target. Therefore, Kaio-/Kibito could theoretically immediately teleport to Gill's location, grab his shoulder, and then immediately teleport to Hell or any other point in the afterlife, all before Gill can figure out what's going on (the entire process would take less than a half a second). Once Kaio-/Kibito teleports away, Gill would be stranded, and therefore unable to participate in the fight

Actually, Buu doesn't actually have SKIN. It's more of a magic putty. And you can't melt the skin away and dissolve it, because that's what Piccolo and SSJ3 Gotenks did in the ROSAT--Buu regenerated anyway with the tiniest miniscule neutrons left after the burning. He'll still regenerate. And the putty could THEORETICALLY surprise Gill long enough to allow Buu to absorb him.

Basically, it will take more than heat to destroy Buu

That's what I thought

What's an HDD? And you can email me the manga pics at nantukojoe@mallarky.net. If you wanna talk to me on AIM, my sn is ostrichman02

I thought so. Therefore, the Seraph Wing CANNOT be cast infinately, and if he uses all his energy using Seraph Wings, he will be too weak to heal himself (and vice versa: if he heals himself too much, he won't have enough energy to form a decently-strengthed Seraph Wing to protect himself

Not quite. From what I've heard, the Shun Goku Satsu teleports your SOUL to hell. However, the teleportation in DBZ actually teleports their BODY to the afterlife. That doesn't mean that they're dead, it just means that their body is in another dimension. If Gill's body is stranded there, he has no way to get back unless someone else teleports him out of there.

How on earth did you figure out their lifting strength? It's easy to figure out his speed, but his lifting strength?

On the Shun Goku Satsu reference: he's saying it like it actually happened and it did not phase Gill. I don't know if it happened, but I know that Akuma wanted to fight Gill (find the best, kill the rest sorta thing).

If this is a 2 on 2, then Shin Bison/Twelve faces off against Buu, so Buu is too much into Shin Bison/Twelve, and the Gill fights Vegetto.

There would be someone busy against Kaiobito(Shin Akuma), and remember that his energy goes down whenever he teleports, and also, Akuma can teleport, so he can prevent Kaiobito from coming to Gill.

The Genki-dama completely destroyed Buu, The Genki-dama is like a burning, and electric substance(it looks electric in the Saiya-jin saga, and it looks like it's burning Freiza's hand in the Freiza saga).

I'll have to figure something out, for now, your winning.

Hard Disk Drive.

He can heal himself even if he is KOed.

Yeah, true, but Gill's soul will stay, and Gill can fight with his soul(with even more power).

It was stated in the manga, the beginning of the Buu saga when Goku is training in the afterlife.

Gill didn't fight Akuma, but it did test out how strong Gill was. I don't even know if Akuma knows Gill.

isn't this an all out fight? not a 2 on 2?

and i don't believe akuma's teleportation is as fast as kibito's.

anyways, so far no arguement can destroy gill. even if his body is destroyed his soul would still remain. and btw tarkan, gill's powers seem rather unrealistic for a street fighter. i mean does that mean NO ONE can beat gill or defeat him? so he could go on wreaking havoc all over the place? does he do that in the storyline?

He's actually good, he's the savior for the earth

isn't he a boss in SF3? doesn't he do some kind of evil? i would really appreciate it if you would provide me with a good link where i could read more "official" info about gill.

Hmm... I thought I quoted this, anyways, yeah Kaiobito's teleport is much faster than Akuma's, but Shin Bison's teleport is instant.

No, he's not evil, even if he is a last boss of a game, he's trying to make good and evil join together.

And yeah here's the link.


http://db.gamefaqs.com/coinop/misc/f...ghter_plot.txt


Don't listen to the tier list, it's all messed up, even the person who stated the tier list said it wasn't organized, but everything there is official.