where does it say that???!

piccolo just said that you can't be in the ROSAT for more than 48 hours. he never said you can't go back in. if you couldn't why did the z fighters plan out who will get to return into the ROSAT after cell announced his games?

They had only been in there for one day of the two days that they had.

is that why piccolo could go in the ROSAT with gotenks, after he trained in there for 2 days?

Piccolo hadn't used all of his time. He probably had a few months leeway.

It IS the case. If Vegeta wanted to, he could have. GOku even stated it

I see. SO unless a Z character can knock him out quickly and with surprise, Gill can't be KOd either?

However, the SHun Goku Satsu won't affect ANY of the Z fighters. Vegeta, though he has done many past evils, has already come to grips and dealt with them both when he sacrificed his life to try and kill Buu and while in Hell. And Goku, Gohan, Trunks, Goten, Kuririn, Tenshinhan, and the others have done nothing evil for the SHun Goku Satsu to affect them

First off, Tarkan said taht the Seraph Wing was like an offensive shield, not a super-duper attack. And even so, an attack like that must drain away A LOT of energy from the user, and prolly can't be repeated many times

However, this beam can also be countered by a beam of equal or greater power, such as a Shine Shine.


New argument for Gotenks: THe Galactic Donut. He forms a ring of energy that goes around the opponent and crushes him slowly, causing a tremendous amount of pain and damage.

Good point

Yes, he could have done it, should he wanted to. Therefore, it is possible to enter/exit repeatedly, though in a way you're destroying yourself in the process via old age

We're going to need some way to measure the amount of "super bar power" that these SF fighters are going to obtain during the battle

I'd stake Furiza form 2 at around 1,200,000 and Piccolo at around 800,000. Thats a difference of 400,000, and that's a big difference

Goku has not killed a single person throughout DBZ. Gohan has only killed Cell, and Cell was evil, so the killing of Cell was justified. IF they kill evil people, than that is not evil, because it's justice. THerefore, the Satsu won't affect them (except maybe Vegeta)

THat was only if Vegeta did not leave after 48 hours. Vegeta intended to train in there for the 9 days STRAIGHT without leaving. However, it was then that Piccolo said that you could only stay in for 48 hours. As in, 48 hours at a time.

Find me the manga page where it says that

[quote:post_uid4="Nantuko Joe"][quote:post_uid4]It is illogical because it has been said that the time limit is 48 hours in a person's lifetime! That is why! [/quote:post_uid4]

[color=green:post_uid4]Find me the manga page where it says that[/color:post_uid4][/quote:post_uid4]
Do you really want us to do that? I would, but it could take me a LONG while, considiring I don't have any manga's.

It doesn't matter, Vegeta's soul gets sent to hell, if your soul is sent to hell, then that's it. And killing is a sin, every Z fighter commited a sin, there is no denying that, even Goku did.

blarg... The seraphic wing is both. It's like a Genki-dama except your inside the orb.... you need to buy 3rd strike to understand it more.

Tenshou Kareki Jin is not a beam, and what the hell is shine shine?

Isn't that the attacks where the ring burns, and crushes you at the same time? Well there are some characters without teleporting that can find a way to evade it's speey projectile.

Gill can freeze the ring rendering it useless, or he can just do seraphic wing to just blast it away.

Akuma can do a Kongou kokuretsuzan to forcefully hit the ring back at Gotenks.

Dhalsim can make the projectile not move using his yoga powers

Oro can do his EX Yagyou-dama to blast away the ring(if he has two arms on him, he can easily manipulate the fireball), or he can do his Tengu-Stone, gathering hard metal, and debree(diamonds, titanium, etc...) to protect himself.

Twelve can just stand there taking the hits, and not getting effected.

Urien might be able to stand up against it, though the burning part of the ring might melt part of his skin.

It's like this.... Kamehameha is a super move for Goku, while his regular blasts are special moves. Final Flash would be a super, Gallic-Hou would be a super, not sure about big bang, depends on how much power is put into it.

SF, and DB"Z" are the same. Shinkuu Hadouken is a more powerful variation of the Hadouken. a super move is a more powered up version of the persons special move, or an insanely powerful move, or a unique move. Super moves usually take a lot out of you.

Some errors there:

-Freiza is supposed to be at 1,060,000, he stated it.

-Freiza is never at max in form 2

-Piccolo is way too low(I'd put him between 900,000- 1 million)

-When Piccolo and Freiza began to fight, Freiza was beating Piccolo up, then Piccolo took off his weights and then beat Freiza, then Freiza powered up, and they were about even. It wasn't any skill used, it was just strength, and speed. Don't listen to the people with fake PL's that say Piccolo used skill, skill is never used in DB"Z", not once, unless in cheating tactics(Vegeta vs Zarbon's monster form in round 2).

You have to go through DB era to see there sins, and Gohan has commited a sin, always obey thy parent(somewhere along the lines of that), he disobeyed Goku when he told Gohan to not interfere when he was going to fight Vegeta.

http://www.dbz-fan.net/manga

Gohan also killed Cell.

Best guess for finding a manga page that goes with my claim is in the manga that is Dragonball on TV or in the Cell Saga.

there is absolutely NO sf character(except maybe gill) that can manipulate ki as well as DBZ characters. so none of the SF characters can stop dbz beams or ki attacks.

Why are you suddenly saying that? Street Fighter characters can manipulate ki just as well. They simply don't rely on it like DBZ characters do.