hm... well, Think of all the desperation moves as attacks that are hard to avoid, have a highly increased speed and strength, can't be blocked, and all of those are like the shun goku satsu, except that Shun Goku Satsu is unique, as you need to release your soul in order to survive. All the other attacks are very painful towards enemies, but aren't totally kill material.

....I hope you're not bored now. But, I got's to go put the epilogue in for the Moogle Hunting thread. See ya!

Well even if DBZ characters had a hand to hand combat with Sf charaters they would still win.

Reasons:

Speed:Lighting fast speed. And at that speed any punch or kick would be a knock out.

Strength: Now these guys have a ton of power in their hands and legs. One punch from Vegeta or Goku would send someone like Akuma to his death.

Defense: The DBZ character would just stand there take all the hits and once the enemy is tired knock them out by Punch a hole through there stomach.

Well I don't want to get this to be a huge debate. I wana end by saying that I just love SF more than DBZ but I know that Sf wouldd lose to DBZ only because i've followed them both and I have the knowledge to know that SF would lose.

Only reason why I like SF more. Because the fights are interesting to watch the animation is phenominal and the story lines are great.

Just like the difference between a tekken game and a Sf game I rather play tekken for it's realism than SF with it's fake KI blast.

depends...

Yes, No.

No, and not likely.

You're over-estimating, Tidus. And you're not talking about ALL the SF characters. *sighs* There must be at least one character that is so "powerful" that they could be able to tie up the arguement in knots.

I am not saying DBZ would win with no problem I'm sayin they would win but with a little bit fo work.

I don't think you've followed DB and the DBZ series or manga as long as I have. I'm just not making big points because I know who would win and why. And I thought that you guys knew enough about both SF and DBZ to know what I'm talking about.

I don't wanna wast emy time making an everlasting page with all there moves and techniques they would use to win because I have nothing to gain from it but another pointless reply to it.

i'm just going to debate with tarkan since he seems to be the most sensible and powerful debater on the SF side in this thing(no offense to anyone).

one question: if gill is a "god" and he is immortal, then, was he ever defeated? if he's immortal, then there is no need to continue this topic since he can never die. so if that is the case then sf would win (with 99% credit to gill's immortality of course).

OK then. IMmortality. Lets bring in the eternal dragon and wish for goku and vegeta to be immortal. Now that just sucks doesn't it. Two of the strongest fighters immortal against 1 immrotal. Still dbz has the edge.

that's ridiculous, it never happened in the manga. so vegeta and goku aren't immortal. you can't make things up, it would be like saying: get goku to train some more under 1 million x earth's gravity to beat akuma

LOL. I never said they're immrotal. I said it could be possibl, Don't you hink if it was dbz against SF they'd come up with a way to defeat him.

no, unless they bend the rules a little.

Yeap. Exactly what i meant.