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1- Wasn't this supposed to be a ground only battle?
2-Piccolo getting bigger would only cause him to get hit easily. 3-The lava thing happened in the anime, but he did not survive (I think... and this could be possible as he could've been wished back by the dragon balls when they wished for everyone that was killed by freeza to be brought back to life...) or maybe he did... I haven't seen that episode in so long... 4-Natuko, most of the mistakes you marked are of Spelling errors. Those aren't stupid mistakes, as some people don't know the right spelling or name of someone. So lay off. 5-Where can I find more info about Gill? |
screw this topic ....what a waste time .......no one knows who is stronger .....4get about it damnit.... :angry:
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The lava part where Goku gets hit in the anime never happened in the manga, so we don't need to bring this up. Quote:
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well, its true.....there wil never,and i mean NEVER,be such a crossover such as this one.
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oh man, i can't believe the load of bull#### i just read. while i was gone for about a day, you guys posted 5 pages of stuff! and tarkan, plz, i don't have a lot of time on my hands, so it's impossible for me to read your long ass posts. the spirit bomb can absorb energy from unnatural objects, because king kai said so when goku first tried the spirit bomb on his planet. he said that the spirit bomb can get energy from the sun and molecules in the air. gohan was not the strongest in dbz because that mystic thing did release his power, but there is no proof that he is the strongest saiyan. and from now on when you guys post something. post something like a source to indicate where you got the info from. like this:
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Gohan was the strongest non-fused Saiya-jin at the end of the Buu saga, but not at the end of the whole series. He was able to beat down Super Buu(with Piccolo, Goten, and Trunks), but faltered against Super Buu(with Piccolo, and Gotenks). SSJ3 Goku said he stood no chance against any form of Super Buu, and SSJ2 Vegeta stood no chance against any form of Buu in the Buu saga. Vegetto is sthe strongest Saiya-jin, but he is fused. source: Dragon Ball manga |
WOW me and Joe really pumped things up :D
Thanks about the spelling. Tarkan X your a good guy so I'm not going to kill your theories but Goku has used Keio-Ken while Super Sayian it was level one it was when he was dead. Darn your right he was dead when he used it never mine... |
i got enought of reading by page 10 !
let say this ! genki dama (spirit bomb) can only kill BAD people, remember when gohan rebound it on vegeta cause he was good and goku saying that the spirit bomb wouldn't kill him ! next, roll your wrong, in a fight noe can be dumb cause if it was so you could be beaten even by mr. satan...(who can actually disappear from the humain eye's) third, the only reason why SF couldn't have any chance is in the fact they DONT use enegy the same way has DBZ chars ! example: goku can go even faster than anyone else ! bull#### he's using enegy to go at that speed ! vegeta has his final flash ! bull####, he's using energy to do it ! think of it that way, without any energy, DB chars and SF could put a great fight together cause in that case, only the best man could win and surely no one can ever know who could win cause NO movie or manga or even game has been made for that purpose ! the best answer in this case is simply... I DONT KNOW if you count energy then DB is simply to strong for SF cause SF use energy to their attack and has unlimited energy to do so (in games) but DBZ has limited energy and they se it to do practily what ever they want from increasing their speed to increasing the might to increasy blast density and blast power. they are just not comparable ! for the Power Levels, dont even think of saying that goku was at 300 millions cause no one know except if you asked akira toriyama cause after the freeza saga no one ever used a scouter ! except when freeza said HE was over a million on his 2nd form, after that it is just not possible to tell Power Level ! roll: if anyone who was killed by freeza were wished back, why does the planet vegeta didn't came back ? dendy did tell that the dragon isn't bound by any dimension or any TIME ! TarkanX: gohan didn't goe's to SSJ2 until fighting cell (no one ever knew if he had before) the only thing goku knew is that gohan would over pass his limit if he were cornered and had no other choices but going thru !(remember he even doubted gohan after a while cause he THOUGHT gohan could be stronger than him) for the tail regrown thing, it is true that it regrown after a while but only little gohan had that chance ! example: when training with piccolo first piccolo letted him live 6 month but in the full moon he transformed into oozaru then piccolo blow the moon and cut the tail of gohan but when fighting again 7 month later when the ship of goku (and it is goku's spacepod) called goku but caught gohan and forced him to transform by recreating a moon (gohan at that time had regrowned his tail) i agree with tarkan, GT SUCKS, not the same creator so not the same thought so the serie gets biazed ! wooo ! that was long enough, so i'll stop ! |
Darn Karma made the best points today besides Tarkan X. ;)
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dragonballz vs street fighter.....pfft......they're just rumors.....its pure stupidity.....what is it going to be? another fake show like dbgt or a game? Every dbz game on ps sucked major ass unlike the sf games........the only good dbz games were the rpgs on snes.....
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[quote:post_uid6="weezer"]dragonballz vs street fighter.....pfft......they're just rumors.....its pure stupidity.....what is it going to be? another fake show like dbgt or a game? Every dbz game on ps sucked major ass unlike the sf games........the only good dbz games were the rpgs on snes.....[/quote:post_uid6]
Sorry but unless your talking about the new "Chicken Whooper" Your wrong Brother!!! The rpg on snes was good, But there are two more good ones= 1)"Dragon Ball Z Unlimited" and 2)Dragon Ball Final Bout" Oh and it's Dragon Ball vs Street Fighter. :D |
it would be fun to make a game in mugen and call it that way !
Dragonball Z VS Street Fighters it could be done easily. i mean all the techs are very similar. think ill try, it'll give me something to do ! :D |
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Mr. Satan can't disappear, he goes as fast as a normal human would except BARELY faster. The part where they showed Mr. Satan beating Supopobitch in the tenkaichi Bodoukai(flash back) isn't seen in the manga. Mr. Satan just says he beat Supopobitchi. Quote:
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Yes your right, but Gill has unlimited energy when doing his power, fire and ice, he doesn't have to use an inch of his power to use these techniques. Quote:
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You have to be dead within a year for it to work. If your dead for 2 years, and try to get wished back, then your dead forever unless something dramatic happened like when rou dai kaioshin gave his life to Goku's. Quote:
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That moon was fake, Gohan's tail was cut off by Piccolo, and Piccolo destroyed the ship which showed the mirage(sp?) of the moon. Quote:
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O.K. "Final Bout"
The Graphics are good But the buttons are hard to remeber Because it's not english. ??? |
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The Androids from the present are the same power as the ones from the future. Now, we can't say that Trunks is as powerful as Goku, because Gohan keeps saying during the Trunks Special that he wishes his father was there, because then they could beat the androids. Either way, we have to start off back in the eps. when Furiza and King Kold came to earth. Furiza = around 25,000,000 (he received a power-up from the cyborg parts, and prolly trained on his way to earth) King Kold = around 30,000,000 (Tenshinhan said he felt Furiza's ki, but also another more powerful ki) Now, when Trunks arrived, he easily took out Furiza and King Kold. Therefore: Trunks = around 35,000,000 Remember how Trunks tried to hit Goku with his sword, but Goku merely deflected it? That would mean that Goku had a higher pl than trunks, therefore making it Goku = around 40,000,000 Now, let's go back to Trunks Future. If Trunks is around 35,000,000, then Gohan would be around 60-65 million. Now, if you watch the Special, you would see signs that Gohan is stronger than either of the Androids and could take the both if it was one-on-one battle. However, the Androids fight together, which is why Gohan dies. Therefore, Gohan = around 65,000,000 Android 17 = around 60,000,000 (because he's prolly weaker than Gohan all by himself) Android 18 = around 55,000,000(because it states that 18 is a little weaker than 17. That sounds a little more reasonable to me, in terms of power levels growth-wise. After all, it does not seem possible that Vegeta, who was killed by Furiza (who only has a pl of less than 12 million at the time), could come back and train enough to make mincemeat out of a being even stronger than the androids if they were at over 300 million (rememeber, he pounds on Imperfect Cell for a period of time). It also wouldn't make sense that a HUMAN (tenshinhan) could hold off a being with a power level of over 300 million, nonetheless hold off Imperfect Cell for a very long time. To me, my levels sound more reasonable. Quote:
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[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"][quote:post_uid0="weezer"]dragonballz vs street fighter.....pfft......they're just rumors.....its pure stupidity.....what is it going to be? another fake show like dbgt or a game? Every dbz game on ps sucked major ass unlike the sf games........the only good dbz games were the rpgs on snes.....[/quote]
Sorry but unless your talking about the new "Chicken Whooper" Your wrong Brother!!! The rpg on snes was good, But there are two more good ones= 1)"Dragon Ball Z Unlimited" and 2)Dragon Ball Final Bout" Oh and it's Dragon Ball vs Street Fighter. <!--emo&:D[/quote] Quote:
Your wrong Brother!!! The rpg on snes was good, But there are two more good ones= 1)"Dragon Ball Z Unlimited" and 2)Dragon Ball Final Bout" Oh and it's Dragon Ball vs Street Fighter. <!--emo&:D[/quote] I meant a REAL game not a made up one.........And dragonball GT fianl bout is a good game? Dude i have that piece of #### game......it has bad reviews for a reason.......cuz it sucks so bad.......The opening movie is better that the whole game....... |
[quote:post_uid7="SSJKarma"]it would be fun to make a game in mugen and call it that way !
Dragonball Z VS Street Fighters it could be done easily. i mean all the techs are very similar. think ill try, it'll give me something to do ! :D[/quote:post_uid7] Could I help you on that? I have a couple of characters already. They're SF though, and I'm still trying to get Sakura. @.@ And which version are you using? |
Look remeber "Fruzia" is that right Joe? I said his power level was over one million at his secound form. O.K. Vegeta was Blow for blow even with him in his weakest form. I think Fruzia double's his power in those weak forms... so Vegeta was at 500,000, But that can't be right because when Goku was fighting Captian, Goku's power level was at 180,000 I think could someone explian this to me.(Because Goku is stronger than Vegeta)????
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Trunks was beaten in his future badly just before he left to earth to fight the other present androids. But he was even messed up even more. Therefore the androids in the present is stronger than the future androids. [quote] Now, we can't say that Trunks is as powerful as Goku, because Gohan keeps saying during the Trunks Special that he wishes his father was there, because then they could beat the androids. Either way, we have to start off back in the eps. when Furiza and King Kold came to earth.[quote] Gohan in the manga from the future does say he wishes Goku was here with them, but then after that, he says "you get us out of jams when we are on the brink of losing". Even if Goku was alive in the future, they still wouldn't beat the androids. But they'd stand much more of a chance. They could win if they double teamed one android, and went for the other, but the other android will ust come in the fight. Quote:
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Vegeta never fought imperfect Cell, he fought against Semi-Perfect Cell, and Vegeta got the time room training for a year which really upped his power by a huge margin. Quote:
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Oro's tengou stone can go against Piccolo's rapid fireball attack thing or whatever it's called. That's all i know right now... by the way what part of the series was the Ryuken attacked used? Quote:
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If Goku did throw the Genki-dama at Bison, Bison would just teleport, if he tried to throw it at twelve, twelve would disappear, and Goku can't sense or see him, so he wouldn't know where to throw it. If he's charging it up against Evil Ryu, Evil Ryu would just shun goku satsu him... It won't work against Gill, or Oro since they're good. Quote:
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Goku's max wasn't at 180,000, it was at 90,000, he just went kaio-ken to get to 180,000, because Ginyu was roughing Goku up, and Ginyu's max was at 120,000. Goku's max was stronger than Vegeta's max, but then vegeta received a HUGE power-up when he was healed by Dende. |
Thanks Tarkan X I was a bet lost there.. ;)
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TarkanX: why do you always tell thing like your were the only one really knowing all about DBZ ?
i saw some of the manga but for what i saw, the TV show and the manga wasn't that different ! the manga was way more strsaight forward than the TV show but the story and the moves were the same ! in the TV show Mr satan DID disappear... when he received the shot from the gun of the bad guy in buu house ! he was in front then disappear, the bad guy was shocked to see that then shot in front of him sending mr satan too the ground with a bullet in the chest ! he is very strong for a human but since he doesn't have any energy that he can use, he is just not strong for the z fighters ! as that part appearing in the manga ? i suppose yes cause you were had miss a big part from the story ! (buu separation) dbz didn't get any bad tought... it is just that people doesn't like dbz for what it is, they prefer SF or any other fighting animes cause they can see movements and such that cannot be seen in DBZ cause of their actual speed ! and for dbz games, it is simply cause they cannot do the same thing as the TV or the manga, the rythm would be impossible to follow ! Hyper Dimension was a great game and those botouden were too and i believe that UB22 was great. Final bout is good but it has sluggish movements so it is hard to fight and if you had learn those hyper combo thing you would find the game going at the pace of the TV show ! anyway like i said the real answer to that question is: I DONT KNOW ! |
[quote:post_uid10="SSJKarma"]TarkanX: why do you always tell thing like your were the only one really knowing all about DBZ ?
i saw some of the manga but for what i saw, the TV show and the manga wasn't that different ! the manga was way more strsaight forward than the TV show but the story and the moves were the same ! in the TV show Mr satan DID disappear... when he received the shot from the gun of the bad guy in buu house ! he was in front then disappear, the bad guy was shocked to see that then shot in front of him sending mr satan too the ground with a bullet in the chest ! he is very strong for a human but since he doesn't have any energy that he can use, he is just not strong for the z fighters ! as that part appearing in the manga ? i suppose yes cause you were had miss a big part from the story ! (buu separation) dbz didn't get any bad tought... it is just that people doesn't like dbz for what it is, they prefer SF or any other fighting animes cause they can see movements and such that cannot be seen in DBZ cause of their actual speed ! and for dbz games, it is simply cause they cannot do the same thing as the TV or the manga, the rythm would be impossible to follow ! Hyper Dimension was a great game and those botouden were too and i believe that UB22 was great. Final bout is good but it has sluggish movements so it is hard to fight and if you had learn those hyper combo thing you would find the game going at the pace of the TV show ! anyway like i said the real answer to that question is: I DONT KNOW ![/quote:post_uid10] VERY TRUE SO you Know how to do the hyper Combo's and the Blast challenges thats what makes that game good. But normal Combo are slow when there done but look cool. Have You trianed a Person on that game.Oh and when your training there is a serect box after Block7 there is the Strongest fights ever in The Unoffiacal GT series. Try the secert Box First you have to put a code in the converter But tat is the funniest Part of the Game besides playing with Golden Uzauru.(Check it out Karma) :D ;) |
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Sounds magna fast(whistles) :D
Tien tied with Goku in a tournament, But I never got to see how Goku beats Chi chi in the World Martial Arts Tournament in Magna DB series. Tell me Tarkan X. ;) |
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Who told Piccolo about the tournament and how did he end up at the martial Arts tournaments. In the BBZ series who is the guy in Bulma's flash back about poeple who spoke Namek besides Piccolo ???
Oh yeah who's Goku's mom. And, how did his dad escape the fight with the pink fight guy Vegeta killed on Namek. :0 |
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[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"]Who told Piccolo about the tournament and how did he end up at the martial Arts tournaments. In the BBZ series who is the guy in Bulma's flash back about poeple who spoke Namek besides Piccolo ???
Oh yeah who's Goku's mom. And, how did his dad escape the fight with the pink fight guy Vegeta killed on Namek. :0[/quote] Answer the rest of my quote please. ;) |
Do Ryu and Ken ever seriously fight each other and who wins... I must know???
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Sorry about that How do i start my own topic ???
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Ryu and Ken fought seriously before, but Ryu won each time, Ken won once, but Ryu wasn't concentrating.
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Well I made two of the same thing but besides that I did ok.
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man .......Now u r flooding SBYR2.......... ???
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TarkanX: it is in the manga, im sure of it since it's a big part of story !
he's talking about Kami over taking a body to fight evil piccolo then using the bottle techniques that get Kami being sucked in then goku make trash talk so piccolo grows then goku get in and out with the bottle then break them to free Kami... sorry got caught by my typing, you what i mean ! about chi chi in the fight it is simple ! 23rd tenkachi budokai... every fighters get's in ! piccolo too (revenge on goku beating him last time) here is what they had at final: goku vs anonymous hope (english name, dont know the japanese one) Piccolo vs krillin (pretty good fight i think) Tien vs ... (a guy not known and not important) Yamcha vs Shen (who is actually kami overtaking a body) goku came in and the girl who was in front reconize him and start telling him that he made a promess to her... but when goku did not reconize her at all she gets mad and attack him, blows were exchange (about 2 or 3) then i dont know what happen after that (blank in my memory) but goku blasted her with a kamehameha and she gets knocked uncounscious ! after the fight when she get to him again they exchanged word then goku realize who he had in front of him ! (goku last saw chichi when she had something like 8 so she has change a lot since then) then they get married since goku made the promisse when she was young and had gohan as his child ! the question im asking, are we seeing the wedding in the Manga ? |
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TarkanX: they did attack each other cause BANDAI (not the other crappy creators) made all there games like that !
chi chi started the fight by talking to goku making him say that he know it's chichi (he didn't reconized her) then chi chi got mad and rushed him for some hit who goku actually never block (he knew she was weak) then they talked again and goku gave 2 or 3 punches then he finished her off with little energy ball (not kamehameha, my fault) then she got uncounsious and goku actually he had knocked her with too much power ! dont know if on TV it showed like that or even if the manga did something like that, but all the RPG games who were at that sequence were made that way ! the truth about all this is in the manga but im pretty sure they exchanged some punch or kick even if it is only 2 or 3 ! i want to know something... on TV, goku remember a fight he had with chichi when they were young ! goku was by the big tree than chichi was talking about doing things that people like to do then when she looked back goku were punching her and they had much fun ! is that in the manga ? if so, then was she as strong as him ? |
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