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there was a theme running through one of the books im reading, is it us that control our lives or is it destiny that is set for us to do.. are we puppets in a play or are we the poeple who control the puppets... i can't exactly say myself but its a thing to think about ???
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[quote:post_uid0="Virtual_Fighter]How is that evil? I'd 100X would more likley change to christianity if they would give me food and money. That kicks ass.
Christianity is all about giving money to the poor"] Vf, excuse but what religion are yu! and ill give yah 1 penny if yah join christianity hmmm..... maybe not lets go on ,shall wea? [quote:post_uid0="Virtual_Fighter"]Uhh, no they can't, because "the bible is perfect" (as said kester), and any misinterpretation or addons would be blasphemey and YOU'RE ALL GOING TO HELL! [/quote] umm VF , the bible is perfect. theres no other way to put it. yure the 1 going to he becuz yu didn't put faith and yure god!!!!1 |
Funny that. I believe as a Muslim, that the Bible was once correct when it was first revealed but then it got altered.
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[quote:post_uid0="alamgir"]Funny that. I believe as a Muslim, that the Bible was once correct when it was first revealed but then it got altered.[/quote]
sum1 told me that it wasn't altered *coughs*VF *Coughs* yu big ole' liar! i autta have yu hanged for yu lieing , VF, i shall nevr in life listin to yu any more |
Lol I don't see much point in all this arguing. You seem happy as a Christian, i'm happy as a Muslim and VF seems happy as a err critic. So there's not much point in discussing, when we know we'll always strongly stick by our beliefs whatever someone else says.
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haha... ??? , the thing with adam and eve reminds me of the Mind of Mencia comercial
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Whoa does the bible say the world's flat? Lol I never knew that.
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i didn't say poop abou the begining of earth. if i am not mistaken, it was yu and (~Miguel~) posting over that crap! now, don't get me wrong , something that yu talk about are sometimes correct , but as a whole, yur i don't listen,b/c yu lie most of the time |
The big bang theory and the shape of the Earth are two different things.
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But the bible! NOOO The bible is correcT! Even though it says the world was made in 7 days, the world is flat and the sun revolves around the earth, NOOO! That's GOT to be true! Oh wait, it also says there's such things as unicorns, witches and winged humans with magical powers called angels! And above all else, there's a big white person in the sky who has the power to do whatever he wants, and yet doesn't because... why? SHUT UP! THE BIBLE IS CORRECT! THATS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW! You're ignorant, dude. If you can't stem your mind from believing in such FAIRY TALES, you're ignorant. No, santa clause doesn't exsist. No, there is no tooth fairy. No, if you step on a crack, you won't fall and break your back. No, there is no god. |
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"The earth is fixed at (or near) the center of the universe. The sun and other planets travel around it. That is what the Bible plainly says [Ps. 93:1, Ps. 19:1-6, Joshua 10:12-14] and what the evidence indicates."
"saiah 11:12 12 And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH. (KJV) Revelation 7:1 1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV) Job 38:13 13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV) Jeremiah 16:19 19 O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit. (KJV) Daniel 4:11 11 The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH: (KJV) Matthew 4:8 8 Again, the devil taketh him up into an exceeding high mountain, and sheweth him all the kingdoms of the world, and the glory of them; (KJV) " Once again, you're wrong. |
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thats just a fliping figure of speech. dude whenever sombody says: "it was raining cats and dogs" do you say?: "lik omg, tahts not truu.....it only rainz waterr!111" |
A figure of speech wouldn't translate from hebrew to english, stfu.
Then where does it say the world is flat? Oh wait it doesn't, stfu. What about the part where it says the sun rotates around the sun? stfu. |
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uuhhhh, did you prove my point? I think you did, because scripture said so, and any other interpretations than that of what is already given to you is BLASPHEMY.
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Here's some stuff I found, disproving it: "IMPOSSIBLE VOYAGE OF NOAH'S ARK A SPECIAL CONTINGENT OF MARSUPIALS BEAT THE PLACENTAL MAMMALS TO AUSTRALIA? The marsupial population of Australia contains animals found nowhere else on earth - not even in fossil form. Are we to suppose that those marsupials managed to travel from the landing place of Noah's ark to Australia? What a long perilous post-Flood journey. I guess God guided them. But you don't hear about that miracle in the Bible. Why not? It's at least as good as the story about God herding the Israelites through the desert, only these marsupials were herded through a denuded post-Flood earth undergoing cataclysms galore. This menagerie of wombats and koalas, bandicoots and kangaroos (not to mention the flightless moa and kiwi birds of New Zealand) had to keep ahead of lions-'n-tigers-'n-bears all the way to Indonesia, and then - although the superior placental mammals could not manage it - reach the continent of Australia. As if this were not mind boggling enough, it turns out that the types of marsupials that made it to Australia just happened to form an ensemble able to fill all the ecological niches available! Thus, there were marsupial moles, ant-eaters, mice, grazers, carnivores, frugivores, etc. - not one of which can be found anywhere else in the world. If this highly diversified marsupial population evolved from one or a few primitive generalized marsupials that reached Australia millions of years before it separated from Indonesia (and before mammals had evolved), then this peculiar situation is understandable. But if all these creatures had to journey from Turkey to Australia as an ensemble, it is incredible beyond computation. (Note: Molecular biology and anatomy both demonstrate that, of living marsupial groups, koalas are most closely related to wombats. And both the living species and fossilized remains of koalas and wombats are found only in Australia. Did such fragile creatures as the platypus and the blind marsupial mole race across the land bridge to Australia quicker than the Malaysian tigers and other robust placentals? " http://www.creationism.ws/impossible_voyage.htm This is pretty funny: "That's just a handful of the factual details that make the Noah's Ark fable impossible, and yet people with modern university educations continue to try and prove that it could have actually happened. Unless you want to take the old fantasy world catch-all excuse of "a wizard did it" and just say, "God made it happen." the Noah's Ark argument is impossible. And yet people keep trying..." So what's your answer to this one? A wizard did it? Quote:
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Uhh, the animals that are native to australia had been there for millions of years, since the continants devided. Your "they then went to australia" is retarded since KANGAROOS CAN'T SWIM.
Where did matter come from? big bang theory. Since apperantly you have all the answers in religion, where did god come from? |
[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]Where did matter come from? big bang theory.
Since apperantly you have all the answers in religion, where did god come from?[/quote] im pretty sure that the big bang theory is about a thing of matter that blows up.........so where did the thing that blew up come from? and no, I dont have all the answers in religion...lol thats why its based on faith (so is science) im going to bed |
ughhhhh... If you can understand this, then fine. If you can't, you still lose:
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Err you didn't expect no one to ask where photons came from did you?
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[quote:post_uid0="alamgir"]Err you didn't expect no one to ask where photons came from did you?[/quote]
you took my words^ and even if he gives some explaination for that, its still just a theory |
You having balls is just a theory. and i'm not kidding, everything ever ever ever ever is still a thoery. The only difference is that science is actually RESEARCHED, where as there is no difference between the bible and a common novel.
Except the people who read novels KNOW it's fake. Where do photons come from? I don't know, i'm only a kid. But atleast my mind is open to know that there is a reason, there is a solution instead of the openly ignorant "A wizard did it". Faith my ass, that's what stupid people use to say "I don't know and I sure as hell arn't going to spend my time figuring out. A wizard did it, how about that?" |
You know what's actually intriguing. NO ONE.. none of these scientists have actually giving full proof and air tight explanation to the beginning of "things". They always start of at that packet of energy portion... or just straight to the implosion. At least the ones I've come across start from there.
Antimatter doesn't explain the creation of the world as we know it. Quite true that the third paragraph takes a page out of Newton's third law of motion which states that for every action there's an equal but opposite reaction. But the writer of that article doesn't account for the appearance of this antimatter or the engine behind the implosion we have come to know as the big bang. No matter who's theory you read, it all takes it shape from the fact that the universe in such a very "wierd" implosion of antimatter. It just doesn't make any sense to deduce that everything awesome you see in the world today wasn't engineered by a supreme being. In the words of Albert Einstein, the universe is to well designed to be without a designer. Whether or not you beleive in Jesus, Mohammed, Buddha, Oduduwa or whatever. One thing stands universal... there is a Supreme Being. Now how much control He or She has over the world can be left to debate... but to deny his or her existence is to try and explain things humanly impossible. As hard as you might try, the only way one can get a full proof explanation to the beginning of things is a time machine. Which as you might believe, is unthinkable right now... but until someone can go back to see things with his or her own eyes, implosion of antimatter doesn't cut it with me. Whoever wants to disprove this designer, with a full mechanical start point of the big bang theory, that doesn't involve an "I don't know how that part was" should be my guest. But I'll be reading for more :biggrin: Edited By blanka09 on 1122911199 |
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I've gotten "OMG JUS REED DA BIBOLE IT SES IS DER"... No it doesn't. Where did god come from? There is no answer so your idea that "a wizard did it" is as stupid if not more than a system of explosions from that packet of energy portions. Quote:
But there explenation has been the product of hundreds of research. The bible was written in like 60 years. I could write a more full-proof book in 2 days. There's so many things, impossebilities and falsities in the bible. Why do people still believe it? Fear. They're afraid of what might happen if they don't. They're afraid of the unknwon and would rather believe "A wizard did it" than to find the right answer. I'm tired of living my life in the fear of the unknown. Quote:
THIS ISN'T THE SIMS, HERE. The only reason it doesn't make sense is because you don't want to make sense of it. You'd rather compress your mind to "a wizard did it" than to try to find the answers. It takes 4 words to explain your little universe. It takes 12 billion years worth of progress to explain mine. And again, the yet unanswered quastion: Where did god come from? A wizard couldn't make the wizard. Quote:
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What i'm trying to explain is impossible but... THAT SOME DUDE IN A CLOUD CAN MAKE THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE ISN'T? What about that false adam and eve story? Noah? Like ever other page in the bible is eigther false or IMPOSSIBLE. Don't talk to me about impossebilities, dude. Quote:
A wizard did it. Why? Because the babie's brain is too stupid to think of the other one. Now you ask your self, "Am I taking the easy answer out, or am I just stupid?" |
Just as absurd as the answer is... I never used the word "god" or... ur fairy tail wizard. The contrast is eminent. When you sayy God, people automatically think you're argueing from the perspective of the bible... and if youread my whole post, you would notice that in no way did I use the Bible as a guideline to where my line of arguement was coming from.
The one you wish to refer to as wizard gives an utmost explanation to the things you can't explain. This implosion of antimatter shows no proof of anything, just technological findings of how the world MIGHT have progressed. Whether or not it happened 12 or 12 and a half billion years go says nothing about the BEGINNING OF THE WORLD. Quote:
The one major thing I know science has created for itself by trying to understand and dig deeper into the beginning of the world, is an endless array of puns that ppl would keep on pulling out of their freaking a-holes for generations to come. Well, if you say that... what happened BEFORE that ?? You want me to "not talk to you about impossibilities", then you bring me evidence of how a photon with energy created the world and stop calling on the name of research that you have NO clue on how they were conducted. How on earth do people come up with such theories as to things that happened 12 billion years ago. The reason most people stupidly buy into every page of what science says is cause since it's not as simple as "God created the world, adam and eve" but instead looks quite complicated... then it IS a better explanation to how the world is created. Do NOT however, put words into my mouth for the sake of not bringing religion into the debate, i haven't used any proceeds from my faith a la biblical evidence.. but instead showed you WHAT some pioneers in science have come to conclude.. that no matter how you try to deduce the world and it's humble yet proud beginnings, it is impossible to leave the designer behind. Whether it was a he, she or... an it.. would be left to debate... but for the design we call the universe, there HAS to be a designer. Whether he sat in a chair... or was in form of a cosmic entity... isn't my place to plunder in this topic. What annoys me about ur response is that you've put the bible that I made NO mention of when responding to my reply. Scroll up and you would see that the only thing I took from the Bible was Jesus.. and in THAT context I put other religious entities.. without making the focal point of my arguement. All in all, my stand is simple. Whether or not you want to refer to this Being as a comical wizards to impress the foolishness of man, isn't of any concern. But those who believe have a full understanding to what they believe in. Can you even tell me what's in an atom without googling it right now ?? Could you tell me why there is a positive charged proton and negatively charged electron ?? And why the hell science didn't know there was a neutron until Dalton's atomic theory was revised ?? There's no telling that science has a good look on how things are in the world. The same scientists said the world was flat one day... but then found out it was round.. the same scientists thought this was the only living planent, but now there are 9... oh wait... now this is the milky way ... in the presence of OTHER galaxies now ?? Oh goodness, I wonder what would come up 40 years from now. Don't get me wrong, I respect science... I'm an engineer so everything I do would be based on the theories and standard science has giving us. But why does it annoy everyone that the earliest of things could be explained so simple in the words and understanding of a toddler. Why does the sophisticated one have to be the right one ?? Cause of the word photon beam ?? big bang ?? Implosion ?? Matter and anti matter ?? In the words of the de la soul dudes in the gorillaz track feel good inc, my only response to that irony is ha ha ha ha ha :biggrin: Edited By blanka09 on 1122913866 |
the world was created by god no question about it but i heard in this article that the universe is eventualy going to collapse
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Where did I say ANYTHING about the big bang theory? Do you even know what the big bang theory is? Do you even know who or what buddhism is? Are you aware buddha isn't worshiped and is like mohammad, a prophet, in buddhism (A RELIGION I DON'T BELIEVE IN) Are you aware that after "talkin tu u" i've lost probably all respect I ever once had to religious people as a whole? Quote:
But the bible! NOOO The bible is correcT! Even though it says the world was made in 7 days, the world is flat and the sun revolves around the earth, NOOO! That's GOT to be true! Oh wait, it also says there's such things as unicorns, witches and winged humans with magical powers called angels! And above all else, there's a big white person in the sky who has the power to do whatever he wants, and yet doesn't because... why? SHUT UP! THE BIBLE IS CORRECT! THATS ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW! You're ignorant, dude. If you can't stem your mind from believing in such FAIRY TALES, you're ignorant. No, santa clause doesn't exsist. No, there is no tooth fairy. No, if you step on a crack, you won't fall and break your back. No, there is no god.[/quote] alraight yu , yu i don't even have a name for yu jack ass! :/ but there is a god , doofus! want to know why theres a god how in the hell can a person that's about to die from cancer in a week lives for another 10 years? huh explain jack ass yur theory is wrong, VF. go home and study and i have more how in the hell is a person died for 28 mins and 45 secs said they went to hell and begged go for mercy and he got back in to his body and stuff , man explain this? i know i act like a nut, but i know sum things that they say that god" God works in mysterious ways" so yu MOFO explain that , since yur punkass can explain evry thing else |
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Actually I was going to ask Mr. Sarah Slater...how does something decay into something bigger...then that. Y'all should all just agree to disagree....or agree that FLUFFY DINOSAURS CREATED EVERYTHING OR THEY'LL COME AND EAT YOU. rAwr!!!! :sarcasm: |
mega dracos: the thing with cancer is that there is always a percentage of living or dieing, my best friend has cancer and had around a 5% chance of living and he is still living today, even though his cancer has kept on returning he has been doing really well... his cancer was neuroblastoma.
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Actually I was going to ask Mr. Sarah Slater...how does something decay into something bigger...then that. Y'all should all just agree to disagree....or agree that FLUFFY DINOSAURS CREATED EVERYTHING OR THEY'LL COME AND EAT YOU. rAwr!!!! :sarcasm:[/quote] Lol whatever. |
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You're not picking a side, you're remaning undecided. If i'm gonna say "No, there isn't a god, and all religions are wrong", you have to say something dirrectly affermative to it, not "something somewhere at sometime for some reason somehow made us". Give me something to work with, here. Quote:
Instead of finding the TRUE TO LIFE answer, something that uses the elements of science and knowledge we know now can find these answers, we resort o the DUMBING DOWN OF SOCIETY. The easy answers. Why does that machine desperse money, mommy? Because it does, honey. Why does that machine desperse money, mommy? Because it is a system that has money inside of it, with a number of it yours. Whenever I push this botton, it gives off a certain amount of everyone's money to me, aslong as it's not over the limit that I have. The money is then subracted from my total, and my new total is the maxiumum amount of money I can take out. If I put more in, my total grows. Getting the easy way out is the dumbing down of society. Quote:
The reason I don't believe the bible or any other religion is because they're rediculous. What might be believable in one idea, is also wrong like 99% of their other ideas. The bible for example. They have one sort of good idea, there is a god. Then they have it that women are original sinners, gays are bad, that noah had ever animal from all over the world, the world is flat, the sun revolves around the earth, that witches and wizards exsist, ect. One possibly believable fact. The reast are just fairey tales. Then why do people believe religions? Is it because of their old, primitive language or the fact they did no evidence to prove anything? Is it because they're too dumb to find the true answers? Or is it because they're afraid to find out what might happen to them if they DON'T believe in a god? Religion is controlled by fear. It's never "Be good and go to heaven", it's "Be good or go to hell". It's not the reward of heaven we're after, it's the fear of hell that keeps us from screwing up. It's the fear of hell that makes us do what we do, and makes us try to prove ourselves, it's the fear of hell that makes you judge others, and try to put yourself above them. It's the fear of hell that makes us blow planes into buildings and kill yourself in a town square. It's the fear of hell that makes us kill thousands of people, and have them kill thousands of your people. It's that fear of hell, not that hope in heaven, that runs a religous man's daily life. Quote:
If "god" made us, who made god? AND NO, DON'T GIVE ME THAT FAITH BULLpoop. I just realized the flaw in that. You can't have faith in something you don't know. You have faith in something you do know. For example, I asked kester who made god, he said he has his faith. Faith in what? What's the answer? For ever question there's an answer. What do you have faith in? The fact you don't know the answer? "I have faith" is like answering "pineapple". It's random, out of place "answer". Quote:
Even I can come up with a religion. It's called vfism. And it's the idea that all religions are man made bullpoop. NOOOO. But you think that's some howbetter than hundereds of years are research. The thing about religions is that they're stories. They're not proven, or have evidence. The evidence they have is always non-sensical and stupid. Like that retarded "we saw his face on a cloud". "There's a possebility god exsists". There's also a possebility that this entire universe is actually a cell on the ass of a dog, but there's no proof and evidence of it. OH NO BUT THERE'S A CHANCE. Yeah, a small, stupid, neive chance. What we know is what is real. What we know is real and that is not god. Quote:
OPMG DAT DEY ARE MADE OF CANDY CUZ I LIKE CANDY!@!!11 -_-' We believe what we see here, but instead you and people like you result to believeing what people said thousands of years ago when they still were using sticks and stones as weapons, thought the world was flat, believe the sun was some sort of living thing and danced around trees to get their magical energy. There might be a god. There might be. But is relgion right? Even if there is a god, religion is still wrong. Why? Because it is. It's not historically accurate, it's not scientifically accurate, it's illogical and unrational. My stance is not whether there's a god or not, I really don't care to know. If you hold an altimadum on someone, they tend to not be themselves. (i'll get back to this) We don't know that. What we do know, and it's been proven time and time again, is that the bible, and most all antient religous texts, are wrong. What we never see from religous people is the "clock maker" idea. The idea grew popularity during the romantic era, and it says that god is a clock maker. What does a clock maker do? He makes clocks, then he lets them go. THAT's more accurate than what we see today, the "god made the world in 7 days then made humans and we're all brothers and then there's witches and the world is flat and the sun revolves around the earth" ideas people believe in. I think about this alot. I think about this ALOT. Most religious people, I imagine don't. I think about this ALOT. I read the bible. I said, "That's a little wierd". I read some science books. I read some history books. I used my own common knowledge of the world. I came to the conclusion, "No. That's wrong. There weren't 2 people in some magical garden which populated the world. There wasn't a magical arc that could hold thousands of animals. The world isn't flat, the sun doesn't revolve around it and it's been around for BILLIONS of years." I weighed out my options. Eigther believe what pretty much has been proven, or believe in some 2000 year old book with so many plot holes and flaws it seems like a cowboy after a shoot out. I thought about it some more. I saw picture of the world from outer space. Hey, the world isn't flat, I told myself. Hey, the sun doesn't revolve around the earth, I told myself. Hey, it wasn't made in 7 days, presto it's done, it must have tooken billions of years to do all this, as we can see from the billions of years of continental drift. God might be a clock maker. But even the clock maker had a mother. We don't know this, but we need to collect the ideas and data we have now. Is there a clock maker? We don't know. Did a clock maker write a 100% accurate book? No, he didn't. Quote:
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Most people don't know what they're practicing when they read the bible. Yes, I said bible, get the flip over it. Kester didn't even know that in the bible it said the world was flat, and the sun revolved around the earth. There's all sorts of poop people forget to believe in. What people think chrstianity and religion is is the belief of god. But it's not. It's the belief in all sorts of rediculous, irrational ideas which no body brings up during a religion debate. If the bible is wrong on one account, which it is, that means it's not perfect and would therfore be false. Quote:
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OMG BUT I HAVE FAITH! Who cares? Pineapple. I'm asking, why does the 2000 (in some cases even 6000) idea have to be the right one, even though parts of that idea have been proven so wrong it's not even funny, whern the idea that's reletivley new and uses all the knowledge we've aquired over hundreds of years worth of information can't be the right one. Because you were raised that way? That's what a racist says when he doesn't accept another race. He was raised to believe it, and no matter HOW wrong it is, he's never going to accept anything else because he was RAISED THAT WAY. In the words of George Carlin's charector from Dogma: "We get them while they're young, it's easier for us to make life long members." -Sort of like the Tabacoo industry. "If ONLY we had their numbers." Quote:
Secondly, don't call me a jackass, don't call me doufuss. In the bible it said to turn the other cheeck, judge not let ye be judged, and love thy neighbor. NONE OF WHICH YOU'RE DOING. So, since you're not following the word of god, you're going to hell. Repent, sinner. Quote:
You tell me how people who are given "magical miricle pills", which are actually just sugar, live on for another couple of years, even though it's a PLACEBO. The power of the human mind. There is no GOD involved. That's how stressed out teens create pulterguist, it's the power of the human mind. Quote:
Are you saying i'm right, "bud ur derey is wrang vee eph!11"? The belief in god is LESS than a theory. It's even less than a hypothesis. A Hypothesis atleast is an EDUCATED guess. There's notthing educated in the belief in fairy tales. Quote:
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You know what's not making stuff up? Links. Stories. Evidence. PROOF. EXPLAIN THIS: Den how iz it dat sum dude died, wen to heven den came back and sed dat der was no god HUH HUH TELL ME DAT?! Quote:
Yeah, and people... No wait, I think JESUS CHRIST said this, "Judge not let ye be judged", "Love thy neighbor", "He who is free of sin, cast the first stone", and most of all, "TURN THE OTHER CHEECK." But you're not following ANYTHING god has said. Instead, you're calling me a motherfliper, calling me a jackass, calling me a doufuss, LIKE THE DEVIL HIMSELF. Have fun in hell, fool. Quote:
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You're not picking a side, you're remaning undecided. If i'm gonna say "No, there isn't a god, and all religions are wrong", you have to say something dirrectly affermative to it, not "something somewhere at sometime for some reason somehow made us". Give me something to work with, here. Quote:
Instead of finding the TRUE TO LIFE answer, something that uses the elements of science and knowledge we know now can find these answers, we resort o the DUMBING DOWN OF SOCIETY. The easy answers. Why does that machine desperse money, mommy? Because it does, honey. Why does that machine desperse money, mommy? Because it is a system that has money inside of it, with a number of it yours. Whenever I push this botton, it gives off a certain amount of everyone's money to me, aslong as it's not over the limit that I have. The money is then subracted from my total, and my new total is the maxiumum amount of money I can take out. If I put more in, my total grows. Getting the easy way out is the dumbing down of society. Quote:
The reason I don't believe the bible or any other religion is because they're rediculous. What might be believable in one idea, is also wrong like 99% of their other ideas. The bible for example. They have one sort of good idea, there is a god. Then they have it that women are original sinners, gays are bad, that noah had ever animal from all over the world, the world is flat, the sun revolves around the earth, that witches and wizards exsist, ect. One possibly believable fact. The reast are just fairey tales. Then why do people believe religions? Is it because of their old, primitive language or the fact they did no evidence to prove anything? Is it because they're too dumb to find the true answers? Or is it because they're afraid to find out what might happen to them if they DON'T believe in a god? Religion is controlled by fear. It's never "Be good and go to heaven", it's "Be good or go to hell". It's not the reward of heaven we're after, it's the fear of hell that keeps us from screwing up. It's the fear of hell that makes us do what we do, and makes us try to prove ourselves, it's the fear of hell that makes you judge others, and try to put yourself above them. It's the fear of hell that makes us blow planes into buildings and kill yourself in a town square. It's the fear of hell that makes us kill thousands of people, and have them kill thousands of your people. It's that fear of hell, not that hope in heaven, that runs a religous man's daily life. Quote:
If "god" made us, who made god? AND NO, DON'T GIVE ME THAT FAITH BULLpoop. I just realized the flaw in that. You can't have faith in something you don't know. You have faith in something you do know. For example, I asked kester who made god, he said he has his faith. Faith in what? What's the answer? For ever question there's an answer. What do you have faith in? The fact you don't know the answer? "I have faith" is like answering "pineapple". It's random, out of place "answer". Quote:
Even I can come up with a religion. It's called vfism. And it's the idea that all religions are man made bullpoop. NOOOO. But you think that's some howbetter than hundereds of years are research. The thing about religions is that they're stories. They're not proven, or have evidence. The evidence they have is always non-sensical and stupid. Like that retarded "we saw his face on a cloud". "There's a possebility god exsists". There's also a possebility that this entire universe is actually a cell on the ass of a dog, but there's no proof and evidence of it. OH NO BUT THERE'S A CHANCE. Yeah, a small, stupid, neive chance. What we know is what is real. What we know is real and that is not god. Quote:
OPMG DAT DEY ARE MADE OF CANDY CUZ I LIKE CANDY!@!!11 -_-' We believe what we see here, but instead you and people like you result to believeing what people said thousands of years ago when they still were using sticks and stones as weapons, thought the world was flat, believe the sun was some sort of living thing and danced around trees to get their magical energy. There might be a god. There might be. But is relgion right? Even if there is a god, religion is still wrong. Why? Because it is. It's not historically accurate, it's not scientifically accurate, it's illogical and unrational. My stance is not whether there's a god or not, I really don't care to know. If you hold an altimadum on someone, they tend to not be themselves. (i'll get back to this) We don't know that. What we do know, and it's been proven time and time again, is that the bible, and most all antient religous texts, are wrong. What we never see from religous people is the "clock maker" idea. The idea grew popularity during the romantic era, and it says that god is a clock maker. What does a clock maker do? He makes clocks, then he lets them go. THAT's more accurate than what we see today, the "god made the world in 7 days then made humans and we're all brothers and then there's witches and the world is flat and the sun revolves around the earth" ideas people believe in. I think about this alot. I think about this ALOT. Most religious people, I imagine don't. I think about this ALOT. I read the bible. I said, "That's a little wierd". I read some science books. I read some history books. I used my own common knowledge of the world. I came to the conclusion, "No. That's wrong. There weren't 2 people in some magical garden which populated the world. There wasn't a magical arc that could hold thousands of animals. The world isn't flat, the sun doesn't revolve around it and it's been around for BILLIONS of years." I weighed out my options. Eigther believe what pretty much has been proven, or believe in some 2000 year old book with so many plot holes and flaws it seems like a cowboy after a shoot out. I thought about it some more. I saw picture of the world from outer space. Hey, the world isn't flat, I told myself. Hey, the sun doesn't revolve around the earth, I told myself. Hey, it wasn't made in 7 days, presto it's done, it must have tooken billions of years to do all this, as we can see from the billions of years of continental drift. God might be a clock maker. But even the clock maker had a mother. We don't know this, but we need to collect the ideas and data we have now. Is there a clock maker? We don't know. Did a clock maker write a 100% accurate book? No, he didn't. Quote:
God would have to be a well designed individual to design all this. Then who designed god? Unless you answer that, you don't have any answers, because your "someone had to do it" idea is just as flawed as "no one had to do anything". Quote:
What annoys me about you is you try to take a hypothetical stance on it. You're asking what if. I'm asking what if you actually say what you mean instead of trying to sound like everytime you talk there's a soft piano and a backdrop of stars behind you. Quote:
Most people don't know what they're practicing when they read the bible. Yes, I said bible, get the flip over it. Kester didn't even know that in the bible it said the world was flat, and the sun revolved around the earth. There's all sorts of poop people forget to believe in. What people think chrstianity and religion is is the belief of god. But it's not. It's the belief in all sorts of rediculous, irrational ideas which no body brings up during a religion debate. If the bible is wrong on one account, which it is, that means it's not perfect and would therfore be false. Quote:
Tell me, now. Why is it all these ideas in the bible have been proven false, time and time again? Or religion in general. Most of the fairey tales have been proven wrong. Quote:
OMG BUT I HAVE FAITH! Who cares? Pineapple. I'm asking, why does the 2000 (in some cases even 6000) idea have to be the right one, even though parts of that idea have been proven so wrong it's not even funny, whern the idea that's reletivley new and uses all the knowledge we've aquired over hundreds of years worth of information can't be the right one. Because you were raised that way? That's what a racist says when he doesn't accept another race. He was raised to believe it, and no matter HOW wrong it is, he's never going to accept anything else because he was RAISED THAT WAY. In the words of George Carlin's charector from Dogma: "We get them while they're young, it's easier for us to make life long members." -Sort of like the Tabacoo industry. "If ONLY we had their numbers." Quote:
Secondly, don't call me a jackass, don't call me doufuss. In the bible it said to turn the other cheeck, judge not let ye be judged, and love thy neighbor. NONE OF WHICH YOU'RE DOING. So, since you're not following the word of god, you're going to hell. Repent, sinner. Quote:
You tell me how people who are given "magical miricle pills", which are actually just sugar, live on for another couple of years, even though it's a PLACEBO. The power of the human mind. There is no GOD involved. That's how stressed out teens create pulterguist, it's the power of the human mind. Quote:
Are you saying i'm right, "bud ur derey is wrang vee eph!11"? The belief in god is LESS than a theory. It's even less than a hypothesis. A Hypothesis atleast is an EDUCATED guess. There's notthing educated in the belief in fairy tales. Quote:
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You know what's not making stuff up? Links. Stories. Evidence. PROOF. EXPLAIN THIS: Den how iz it dat sum dude died, wen to heven den came back and sed dat der was no god HUH HUH TELL ME DAT?! Quote:
Yeah, and people... No wait, I think JESUS CHRIST said this, "Judge not let ye be judged", "Love thy neighbor", "He who is free of sin, cast the first stone", and most of all, "TURN THE OTHER CHEECK." But you're not following ANYTHING god has said. Instead, you're calling me a motherfliper, calling me a jackass, calling me a doufuss, LIKE THE DEVIL HIMSELF. Have fun in hell, fool. Quote:
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So, you, and probably everyother bible thumper, have fun in hell.[/quote] MAN, Vf, i don't give a Damn what yu say, dewd! BTW this is Virtuality not reality he didn't say nothing about " Going into Virtuallity and and shorten yur letter" and most of im Portantly, yure not God, so how in the hell can yu Prove my judgement? Gett on, with yur life , VF, cuz yure just wasten it on this topic! evryone has their beliefs, and for the pppl who doesn't like yu..... and lol about the medicine part Dewd, theres a God ! i Got this real deep feeling there IS a GOD! to yu , there might not be one , but to me there is... so go ahead be agressive , talk yur mess, cuz it seems to me,that yur friends allways bust you in the head with a beer bottle. thats Why yu always stay inside to Avoid the Free world! so ill TTyl VF also have a nice life, yu'll need it ~~MDXRL |
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