[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]ok, first apocalypse isn't touchable by mind control or any other mind things as he is the most powerfull DEFENSIVE PSYCHIC around and not even onslaught could do a #### about that !

APOC isn't psychic in the same way as the other but his mind is in constant MIND protection even XAVIER almost got kill by trying to get into that mind ! so why would onslaught be more capable of it !

i admit, it took very much everyone to take down onslaught. but still it took pretty much everyone to take down apocalypse too ! and the only thing that can kill APOCALYPSE, is his aging problem !

i know 3 person that could take down both of them !
go read about...
THE WATCHER (in silver surfer)
THE PLANET EATER (in silver surfer) i think he's called galactus ! i have to go and see him again !
and the SILVER SURFER himself !

those 3 in STATISTICS can virtually kill both of them !

the planet eater can just take the earth in one hand !
what makes you think onslaught or apocalypse would survie him ![/quote]
THIS IS ABOUT APOCALYPSE and ONSLAUGHT!!!

and no fools, apocalypse is NOT immortal. let me say that again, apocalypse is NOT immortal. and where did you get that info that apocalypse is the most powerful defensive psychic around? onslaught steals the bodies of mutants. he can just steal apocalypse's body.

first: i know it's about onslaught and apocalypse and that is why i am talking about them !

second: yes apocalypse cannot be touched by mind !
proof: in one of the episodes, xavier came to see a friend of his. when he didn't meet his friend he knew there was something wrong and scanned the entire base ! but apocalypse came in the way and charles got an hell of a headaches when he came in contact with apocalypse mind !

no nah, niot even XAVIER (THE most powerfull PSYCHIC mutant on earth) cannot touch apocalypse by mind ! JEAN tryed and got knocked out unconsious in trying ! now try and tell i am wrong ! plus, it is writen somewhere in APOCALYPSE sheet on www.marvel.com.

third: yes he is immortal ! that is writen black on white on www.marvel.com ! i mean PHYSICALY immortal as his only weak point his the AGING attribute that makes him live something like 50 years and then he need to change body to a younger one ! except that, he is immortal !

that weakpoint didn't even phase him ! as he has more than 5000 years of living ! the XMEN have traced him until 5000 years ago but then lost any trace of apocalypse... they think he was alive way before that !

now stop saying FOOL as i AM NOT THAT AND NO ONE IS !

Onslaught would win because apacolips is easier to beat in the arcades..........like X-men vs. street fighter...............in Marvel vs. Capcom............Onslaught is wwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy stonger and is harder to beat! ??? So my money would go with Onslaught :D

also it says at marvel.com that apocalypse unleashed a techno-organic virus on nathan summers because he new that nathan summers would be able to beat him, so that means that he isnt invincible

isnt that cable?.........

no where on marvel.com does it say apocalys is immortal. and if he was defeated by cable, the how could he possibly be immortal?

and if you were to read all of apocalypse's profile. you would know that jean did manage to attack apocalypse's mind and bring back cyclops.

and onslaught's telepathic abilities are stronger than xavier! go look at the power grid at marvel.com. his intelligence is greater cause it is enhanced by the powers of franklin richards. franklin richards' mental powers are so powerful that he can create altnerate universes!

hmmm.... it be one hell of a fight... dats for sure :biggrin:

but the only place we'd be able to see/experience it is in this game (when Apoc is added as a boss/playable-char)...

who would win ?? good q... but i WOULD spend quite a bit of time tweaking both of them to make sure that it would be fair/close fight :biggrin:

yes, you would need to tweak apocalypse ALOT to make sure he was nearly as powerful as onslaught.

he didn't need to do that much tweaking as his DRILL SUPER takes about 1/2 life of your bar and that is if you block it !
it's an instant kill if it connect !

second, apocalypse is immortal, it is written in the file... HE LIVED MORE THAN 5000 YEARS !
did you ever saw CABLE beat apocalypse ? i never saw him do ! so until that CABLE does kill him... i consider that no one ever, will be able to kill him !
next... give me the full detail of that thing with apocalypse mind and jean as i never saw it ! i have heard of it thoo !

so? just cause he lives long doesn't mean he's immortal. immortal means you can't die. living that long doesn't mean you can't be destroyed! i mean, it also says that he can surivive weeks without water, food and oxygen. so that means he can die if he goes for months without oxygen, food and oxygen.

and no, i did not see cable defeat apocalypse, but it is all written clear on his profile on marvel.com! if you would just take the time to read apocalypse's profile. and ask anyone! it all happened in the marvel comics. it is what has OFFICIALLY happened.