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vf i know more about this then u ur what some 15 year old thinking u know what ur talking about i know what i'm talking about all u need for them to legally live with u is the birth parents signature on a few documents as for the adoption to be finalized that might take time to be processed to show that the child is now a part of the family and stuff so they can be claimed under the new parents insurance and all that other stuff but thats about it so yes the adoption won't be finalized for a while but legally with the birth parents signature on the cusdity papers they're allowed to live with the adopted parents
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and the only one making up stuff as they go along is u no where have u posted up any links or anything just a bunch of stuffutyped up back ur ur proof with more then ur typing vf and don't say u copied stuff i want to know where u got it from just like u want to know where i get everything i read from so give me some ofur proof too or stop ur bsing with me too i aint got time for ur bs poop :p so stop wasting my time and everyone elses that is aint abortion
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[quote:post_uid0="Orlando0"]I'm with Kester. It's stupid really. End the suffering before it starts? BAH! Excuses. Let it live and put it in adoption or something. Abortion? That's for wusses, losers and idiots. It's your fault if you have the baby.
Heck, it could live a good life even if you are the worst parents on earth.[/quote] dubya tee eff? do you even know what your talking about? Quote:
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I am a strong supporter of prolife activities. Man can never accomplish God's will by their actions 100% succesfully and never will...
Many experts believe that abortions have evolved a long way from the sacrificial rituals. The spilling of innocent blood becoming increasingly widespread may be reason for the increasing influence of the Paganistic Movements. In any case, this is bad... I believe an embryo once formed is the smallest form of living materials with the capability to specialise into Humans. Hence, they should have equal rights as any ofus, yes even with the woman's 4th amendmant rights of privacy as stated by SolidSnake76. We have not attributed less rights to mentally handicapped ind. hence why should embryo have not rights to live their own life? Even if the situations are very harsh on the parents, many believe that abortions should be avoided so as not to destroy a sacred life so easily. Instead, the best alternative is to give the child up for abortion. If we allow abortion, can anyone be responsible if future generations have abortions as commonly as divorce cases are presently? |
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ill give you the title of a book which i memoriezed most of my statistics from: "Double sided blade: abortion in america" by david lopez "the abortion debate" by doress vinez. and i forgot who wrote it, but it was called "the hsitory of abortion" Quote:
did you know that legally, you can invite the adoptee for a visit to your house. but, if you take him or her out of the try county area, like if you wanna go to sea world, but you live in LA and its in san diego, you lose the chance to federally adopt the child. i saw this story in 20/20, exactly like this. the parents have been filling out papers and such for 2 years already. they invited the child for his first visit, and they took him to sea world. they lost the chance to adopt him because they took him out of the try county area. its NOT as easy as you think it is. i knwo this for a fact, my cousin adopted. yes, adopted succsessfully, but it took her 4 years to find a child, measure it up to her expectations (which was fliped up) and fill out forms. oh, and next time try to make your post more grammer effective, because im having a VERY hard time reading/analyzing your posts. imbei, you're post was alright. it gave good points! it gave a good outlook on life. buT, not everyone is like you. not eveyone loves their children, and not everyone will care for them. not EVERYONE CAN care for them. picture this: you grw up in the ghetto all your life, dropped out of college. your father beat you as a child so you are violent twords men. the only man you really love is your boy freind, and wht better time to prove it! he inpregnates you. you have no money, no job, no education, and the only thing you have is your boy freind. you give him the news! two days later he is in another state, in an undiscloed location. not only that, but you figure out your baby is a boy. its the first try mester, what should you do? a) put it up for adoption. you just know it'll get adopted quickly. (like in his first 15 years of life) b) live with it, and ruin both his life and yours. c) dump it in a dumpster. no one has to know. d) abort is before it is ever bon, before it has a chance to experience your life and your problems, and before you ruin yours even worse. i would choose D. you KNOW life is gonna be rough, and you KNOW it'll be even rougher on you. you have read up on abortion. no pain on the baby's life, and it is before the baby has permanent nerves and before the brain has fully developed. it is not an official human yet, it is a fetus. this is not killing the president here, this is giving the baby back before you and your terrible world currupts him even more. for many people, this IS the only way out. im not saying it's easy, eigther. its really fliping hard on you. but i think, if it was up to me i would rather let me suffer a bit then let the aby suffer alot. |
Seriously, i cant believe some of you are so opinionated about abortion,
some of you are what 12-14, and even tho discussing between yourselfs is nice, but whats the point? None of you know all the technacalities that would come with having a child aborted.. So your just rambling on things you have little substance for.. basically smart rambling. Im not trying to stop this nice parade ofunimportant discussion, but would'nt it be nicer to talk about games/exc.. LoL, aportion, you kids.. |
^^ obviously this topic is uncomprehendable for him.
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^^ obviously, you lot know nothing of this subject, and it can be VERY personal to some people..
oh and shhhh.. |
Well, here's how I see it. Abortion is a quite unhealthy practice and it's very dangerous for the woman performing it. And as VF would say.. I too know the ropes of this so-called termination process... and from what I can say, it's not a very wise choice to go with. Too many things could go wrong from just one abortion.
but does that mean I want a bill passed by the legislature that calls for every doctor, nurse or hospital in general that practices abortion to be closed down and members put in jail?? I don't think so. Everyone has his/her own reasons for doing one thing or the other. You can't actually say why a girl would want this fate for herself.. but I believe every action isn't without reason. As AND1 put, it might be the fear of having to race the child.. or the prospects of being alone.. or one reason or another that might cause a girl to perform this act. However stupid and unreasonable her reasons are, I believe it's up to her and those around her to either help.. or in any case make the decision. There are many who don't know the details and as the bible says, "My people die because of lack of knowledge" (from the Supreme Being himself)... it's this lack of knowledge that would actually allow them to put themselves in a situation to make a decision of either giving birth, or committing murder (even though it's still a foetus.. that "thing" might grow up to shake the world). Unfortunately, this is not an "ideal" world. Everyone isn't living in a happy go luck neighborhood where things flourish and everyone's happy.. not everyone can be sure of tomorrow sunlight.. or having food by the table to eat. I've lived in a situation.. yes... me, where I had to use water from the well and toothepaste to feed myself. So I darn right know what I'm talking about when I say this world can be very harsh. but saying that there should be no abortion allowed is just like forcing ur religion on others. Everyone complains when christains try to witness to unbelievers (heck I try to witness to.. but I'm not that good at it.. so yeah :biggrin: )... and if we rely on the principle that every man/woman has the power of choice in his/her hands (even God doesn't mess with the free will of a man - to an extent) then I believe this should be left in the hands of the woman.. or whoever is thinking of doing the abortion. All we can do is tell them why this process is dangerous and not adviceable.. we're in no place to force our views on people who commit this act. It may cause a lot of complications.. but to some people, experience is the best teacher. And unless they actually experience the hardship of abortion and see how vile and disgusting the results are, they may never understand our preaching. I can't actually say I'm a pro abortion individual or what not.. or pro life.. or whatever groups they have out there. I think abortion is a wrong process.. but I also believe every individual has the right to choose. That's what makes us who we are... our choices :biggrin: |
i jsut got simple words to say...thier human not choices so treat the babies like humans because...THEY ARE!
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