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Tidus2K2 10-16-2002 09:58 AM

OK here I go. This is a very old post but i'm still interested in replying to it. DB against SF will lose in a fight. Reasons well in the db series goku wasn't that strong neither were any of the other characters.

DBZ against SF will be something to watch but i'd still say DBZ because it's just to obvious. Compare the attacks of all the SF characters with the DBZ and DBZ will win. Buu can take care of all the SF characters all by himself because he can't die.(He's still alive in DBGT as Ubuu)

DBGT against SF. SF lost this big time. The Dbgt characters are way to strong to lose this fight There almost invincible.

Now i don't wanna take up much time and post a lot of backup info because you can compare mentally. I've seen all the Sf movies and Episodes same with the DB series and seriously DBZ will win.

Roll 10-16-2002 10:11 AM

Very good, Tidus. Too bad they're talking about the manga's, GT is not included in the fight, and you shouldn't be comparing the characters because of JUST the attacks. Compare abilities, speed, defence, strength, technique, ki manipulation, and desperation moves.

Nantuko Joe 10-16-2002 10:14 AM

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DB against SF will lose in a fight. Reasons well in the db series goku wasn't that strong neither were any of the other characters.
Very true.

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DBZ against SF will be something to watch but i'd still say DBZ because it's just to obvious. Compare the attacks of all the SF characters with the DBZ and DBZ will win. Buu can take care of all the SF characters all by himself because he can't die.(He's still alive in DBGT as Ubuu)
Buu does indeed die, he is killed at the end of GT. The reason Uubu exists in GT is because at the end of DBZ Goku wishes Buu back from the dead so he can fight him. However, only Buu's good half returns, and instead of returning in Fat Buu form, he returns in Uubuu form. However...

...In the topic description and on the first page, Tarkan says not to include references to any movies, specials, and GT, because they are not official and they contradict the manga. Therefore, you cannot say anything about Uubuu in GT


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DBGT against SF. SF lost this big time. The Dbgt characters are way to strong to lose this fight There almost invincible.
GT is unofficial, it contradicts the manga, it never happened. YOu cannot reference it in this topic

Tidus2K2 10-16-2002 10:26 AM

True. I knew he was talking about the manga long ago. He told me about this topic before he posted it. I just wanted an overall look at the whole thing.

Roll do you have any idea of what comparing means. I am not talking about the attacks it's everything. And i knew that gt wasn't in this long after u replied to this post. I just put it in there for the heck of it. Even though GT had nothing to do with akira it still is a part od DB sp just for the fun of it I did an overall check of the whole thing.

Nantuko Joe 10-16-2002 10:33 AM

Yes, DBGT is (unfortunately) part of the DB series, but it is not to be included in this debate.

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Very good, Tidus. Too bad they're talking about the manga's, GT is not included in the fight, and you shouldn't be comparing the characters because of JUST the attacks. Compare abilities, speed, defence, strength, technique, ki manipulation, and desperation moves.
Speed
SF--speed of a superathletic human (human ppl), superhuman speed (mutant-like ppl)
DBZ--can move faster than the eye can see, (gotenks) can circle the earth 9 times in 29 minutes.
Edge: DBZ

Defense
SF--to my knowledge, have normal defenses, some can use energy to form shields
DBZ--muscles and skin are so thick that they don't even feel punches sometimes, can easily form ki shields to shield them from blasts.
Edge: DBZ

Strength
SF--superhuman
DBZ--can pick up mountains, can train normally in a room with 100 times earth's normal gravity
Edge: DBZ

Technique
dubya tee eff?
Edge: Draw

Energy/Ki Manipulation
SF--can form blasts capable of destroying a building
DBZ--can form blasts capable of destroying a planet
Edge: DBZ

Desperation Maneuvers
SF--don't know of any
DBZ--can self-destruct in a blast that can destroy Earth
Edge: DBZ


Yep...I think DBZ wins, hands-down

Tidus2K2 10-16-2002 10:36 AM

Yeap exactly what I mean. Unless u don't know what SF and DBZ r you'd wanna read a huge explanation but if youo do know them you automatically know who wins. Nantuko thats a good way to put it.

Nantuko Joe 10-16-2002 10:43 AM

Thank you :D

Roll 10-16-2002 10:55 AM

I know what both of them are, and I still don't see how DBZ would win hands down. There are more speeds than running, more strengths than punches/kicks, techinique is essential to all fighters, defenses.... well, yeah there are too many to count but I admit you got it on the ball, Ki manipulation.... there is still at least one more I can think of that doesn't involve attacking, and can change the entire battle, Desperation moves for SF would be attacks like... Sichisei Senkuu-Kyaku, Shun Goku Satsu, Hisho Burai Ken, Otoko Michi, etc.

(BTW, I don't want you guys to get bored, so I'm just trying to mix in a bit of... spice to liven things up, so please, calm yourselves when you post)

Nantuko Joe 10-16-2002 11:04 AM

I never said "they can run faster" and "they can only punch and kick". First off, not that many SFers have the ability to fly for long periods of time without wasting energy. However, every single major character in DBZ can fly. DBZ characters can fly faster, run faster, and attack faster.

Strength? Um...all you'd use your strength for in a battle is to hit and kick hard...and maybe throw stuff at your opponent, but aside from that, there's nothing else to strength...

Ki manipulation? what is the one other thing? when you manipulate ki, you can fly, shoot beams, and power up, there's not much more than that, aside from manipulating objects with your energy and throwing them without moving your limbs.

Technique? how is technique essential to all fighters? what the hell is technique, you mean the type of martial arts or fighting training one has? DBZ characters know many many different martial arts and the art of grappling. speed and strength are tied in with technique

Desparation moves? Please explain what those moves you listed actually do. I can't see a japanese word and say "ok, i understand what that means..." the only one on that list that I recognize is teh Shun Goku Satsu. esplain what the other ones do. And the reason why DBZ characters don't have many desparation moves is because they never have anyt need to use them

SSJKarma 10-16-2002 11:06 AM

SONIC BOOM description:
because it's a game they made it look like a ki blast but it isn't !
the name says it all, SONIC BOOM, he trust his fist forward and make it do a whirl that generate a WHIRLING SONIC WAVE that travel fast enough to hit any opponent !

because it's a game they had to make it visible and they also had to slower it or it would always hit the opponent !

see nantuko, that make sense !
other question, do you know SF completely ? i would say no because if you do not know those techniques then you simply never heard of ALL the characrets in SF !

OTOKO MICHI: DAN most powerfull super, where he grab onto the person and sefl destruct himself with his KI !

SHUN GOKU SATSU: you already know it so i won't describe it !

it's the only two i know because i use them much in MvsC2 !
the other are probably moves that i know but i suck in japanese !

anyway, i already said it once but no, i got BRUSHED aside !
you can't compare those 2, for the only reason is SF don't use ki the same way DBZ char does !

example:
SF use brute force and train to be STRONGER as in MUSCLE and TECHNIQUE
DBZ use KI attack and train to boost that KI.

SF use MUSCLE and TECHNIQUES
DBZ use KI to enhance ALL their KI Blast and their MUSCLE !

and again, the TRAINING goku and vegeta had (400x gravity) isn't impossible to us human ! as goku AND vegeta started training under very lower gravity first and then came up and up until they reach those gravities !

for the only purpose that they don't use the same techs there is simply no chance to that SF can defeat DBZ ! they can if it was DB as DB only used HAND-TO-HAND combat, but not DBZ !

nantuko: do you know that FAT BUU was there when UBUU was fighting in the tenkachi budokai ? he was playing card with SATAN in their house !

FAT BUU = good side
UBUU = reincarnation of the POWER of KID BUU !

in GT, FAT BUU died and UBUU absorbed him to become UUBUU ! or something like that !


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