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Ludacris 10-14-2002 06:42 AM

[quote:post_uid0="mysticveggeto"]frieza had to wait for an hour until the planit nemik would be destroyde[/quote]
it wasn't an hour it was 5 min.......it seemed like an hour cuz they made like 5 or 6 episodes before the planet blew up.......

TarkanX 10-14-2002 07:27 PM

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However, depending on the DBZ character he attacks, he may NEED to have excellent strength to take advantage of an opponent's pressure points. There have been many instances in DBZ where an enemy doesnt' even FEEL the opponent's blows. Or, in the case of Buu, just absorbs the blows.
Yeah, but he's like gum, ro whatever... he doesn't have any vital parts, so he doesn't really receive much damage. Goku, and Vegeta have Vital parts, so they are able to receive damage. If an average guy hit me as hard as he could at ym back, I'd just brush it off, but if he hit me at my "adam's apple", I'd breathe for my life.


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He may be able to destroy a building just by thinking, but a building isn't a moving, breathing, fighting obstacle. Could he do the same with a powered-up Z Fighter like Trunks or Gohan? As far as the destroying brain thing, I don't know about SF attacks, so I guess that's a pretty useful move.
He can teleport.

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That is a VERY big advantage on Charlie's part, the fact that he could shoot many sonic booms w/o draining a lot of his energy. However, how strong is each individual Sonic Boom? Is it like the Kienzan, with very little power but still retaining the ability to cut through almost anything? Because even if that is so, it still may not be effective against the high-level Z-Fighters. As we all remember, Kuririn's Kienzan struck Cell directly at the neck, and Cell's neck didn't even get a scratch, it instead broke the Kienzan
Filler, kienzan cuts through anything. Charlie's sonic boom's are as strong as getting hit by a kitana blade, they are as fast as the speed of sound(760 miles per hour on a good day).

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With permission from Lord Emma (King Yamma), a soul can be released from the afterlife to return to the real world. With this in mind, any DBZ character killed by the Raging Demon could be allowed back to the real world by Emma, and Urani Baba's unique teleportation could carry them back to the battle.
Then Akuma will keep doing the shun goku satsu. The only way to survive the shun goku satsu is to release your soul, like Gen did, and Piccolo could most likely do that too, or to have a deity status like Gill.


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Was this the guy you said was kinda like Kid Buu? He also sounds like one of the more powerful SF fighters, but one of his attacks is invalid. the EX kishin riki could indeed drop a Z-Fighter from up in the sky, but all of the Z-Fighters have the Bukujutsu, and could simply fly away instead of falling. And even if they DO fall to the ground, they'd just make a huge crater, then get back up again.
The person I said was like kid Buu was twelve, he's also one of the most powerful SF characters. And yeah I guess that is true....


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Sai-sei-the ability to regenerate. This would allow Piccolo to regrow lost limbs. However, this attack severely drains energy from him if the damage is too great.
Destroy his head, then he dies.

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Makankosappo-the "special beam cannon", this could pierce through the strongest armor. However, it takes a little while to charge up to be really deadly
quickly destroy Piccolo before he gets it fully charged.


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Renzoku Senkoudan-prolly Piccolo's most powerful attack, he surrounds his enemy with dozens (maybe even hundreds) of ki packets and allows them to converge on the enemy simultaneously. They then explode, and could possibly kill the enemy outright if he can't form a strong enough shield.
Teleport out of the way, Gill could just Seraphic Wing his renzoku Senkoudan.


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Super Ghost Kamikaze Attack-the attack that crippled Buu and almost killed him. I doubt that any SF character could survive this
One reason I don't like Gotenks is because he has too many dumb attacks, anyways.... just teleport out of the way.


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Gekitotsu Ultra Buu Buu Volley Ball-another ridiculous attack, the buu buu volleyball attack could cripple the enemy fighter, leaving him vulnerable to a finishing maneuver
teleport


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Big Bang Attack-it doesn't take very long AT ALL to charge up, and is really strong.
teleport, or Seraphic Wing.

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Final Flash-though it takes a lot longer to charge up than a Kamehameha, it's a hell of a lot stronger
This is a really strong attack, I'd just say teleport, when vegeta did this on Cell, he did his very best to not destroy the earth.

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Explosion-dont' know the real name for it, it's the attack he used against Buu that turned himself to stone. That could cripple a SF fighter
It would kill a SF IMO. unless Vegeta holds the SF, and does it, he'd win, but that's suicide. other than that, they'd just teleport.

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Implosion-still don't know the name for the attack, it's the attack he used to kill Kuririn. He pretty much uses his power to explode the enemy's ki (i think)
He has to target the opponent, and get him with it, then he can implode them.

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Mystic-since he's always his max power and can't get any stronger, he's damn strong
he was weaker than Super Buu with Gotenks, and Piccolo.


I'll do the other stuff later, I'm tired right now....

Nantuko Joe 10-15-2002 06:37 AM

First off, Tarkan, I noticed that for every attack I listed, you said the SF character would teleport out of the way. Yet i think it was like 10 pages back or something i said Goku could teleport away from every attack and you said something like "This is a fight, so he'd have to stop teleporting eventually and fight". So im gonna say the same to you. And if the only way to dodge the attacks is to teleport, then the SF characters apparently don't have any counterattacks strong enough to repel the DBZ attacks.

Plus, in that respect, I can say that the DBZ characters could use "teleport" against any attack SF throws at them.


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Yeah, but he's like gum, ro whatever... he doesn't have any vital parts, so he doesn't really receive much damage. Goku, and Vegeta have Vital parts, so they are able to receive damage. If an average guy hit me as hard as he could at ym back, I'd just brush it off, but if he hit me at my "adam's apple", I'd breathe for my life.
No...no...no...

What i'm saying is, he may not be strong enough to hit the Z fighter hard enough for them to feel the blow...even if it is a pressure point. Cell hit Android 16's pressure point in his neck to deactivate him, but he was too weak to activate it.


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Then Akuma will keep doing the shun goku satsu. The only way to survive the shun goku satsu is to release your soul, like Gen did, and Piccolo could most likely do that too, or to have a deity status like Gill.
Eventually, he'll run out of power, and have too little power to do it over and over again. Besides, what kind of fighter is that? That's like the Infinite Hadoken thing in the game. It's too cheap. and Goku (ex) could simply Shunkan Idou away from it in the first place

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quickly destroy Piccolo before he gets it fully charged.
Piccolo doesn't need a lot of time to charge it up anymore. He only needed a lot of time vs. Radditzu because he was at a low power level. However, when Cell shot the Makankosappo at Piccolo (when they first fought), Cell didn't charge it up at all

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Teleport out of the way, Gill could just Seraphic Wing his renzoku Senkoudan.
What is Seraph wing? And he'd be too busy dodging the initial blasts that form the Renzoku Senkoudan to be able to form this Seraph wing counterattack

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One reason I don't like Gotenks is because he has too many dumb attacks, anyways.... just teleport out of the way.
pffft...teleport. The Kamikaze Ghost Clones home in on their targets. And he'll have to stop teleporting EVENTUALLY

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Gekitotsu Ultra Buu Buu Volley Ball-another ridiculous attack, the buu buu volleyball attack could cripple the enemy fighter, leaving him vulnerable to a finishing maneuver


teleport
The Volley Ball isn't a beam or projectile. Pretty much, Gotenks grabs the enemy and crushes him into a soccer ball-sized sphere, then kicks it around like the World Cup in Brazil. While in the sphere, the enemy cannot counterattack until the attack wears off, so he is open to any other attack that is launched at him

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teleport, or Seraphic Wing
Bah...teleport. gotta come up with something better than that

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This is a really strong attack, I'd just say teleport, when vegeta did this on Cell, he did his very best to not destroy the earth.
Bah...teleport...not good enough. come up with something better

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It would kill a SF IMO. unless Vegeta holds the SF, and does it, he'd win, but that's suicide. other than that, they'd just teleport.
Bah...teleport. I'm seeing a pattern here...

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He has to target the opponent, and get him with it, then he can implode them.
That didn't take long for Furiza, he did it in like a sec or two

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he was weaker than Super Buu with Gotenks, and Piccolo.
true...but that's not comparing it to the SF characters

princevegetam 10-15-2002 02:35 PM

well, nantuko said everything i was gonna say. any character can teleport forever, but what kind of fight would that be?

plus, you didn't answer any of my questions... :(

TarkanX 10-15-2002 07:28 PM

Alrighty, where was I....

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dhalsim: it is not possible for him to destroy a dbz character's brain with his ki. because dbz characters can counter with their own ki. i would say that dbz characters have more powerful ki manipulation than dhalsim because they have the ability to fly for long periods of time and shoot very powerful ki beams.
DHalsim can fly for long periods of time, and you dont need huge ki blasts to win. Look at.....Nam, but if you mean DB"Z", then I guess you win on that part.

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charlie: that form of ki manipulation is illogical and seems impossible. so unless you can explain how the sonicboom works then i cannot consider it possible. and i believe you were refering to a katana not a kitana. well, in the saiyan saga, yajirobe carried with him a katana. trunks and dabura have also had swords. all of them have been broken by the strength of dbz fighters.
So the Kienzan is impossible... heh... and those are swords, physical weapons, then have the power to be broken. ki cannot be broken, because ki is energy, and energy is never broken, it's everywhere.

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oro: the true potential behind this guy has not yet been shown in any sf game due mostly to his one hand use. therefore, we cannot judge his real potential.
Gameplay wise you can't, but if you study oro harder, by his quotes, and ending, you can see why he is that powerful. He lifts huge boulders with his mind without even trying.


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Eventually, he'll run out of power, and have too little power to do it over and over again. Besides, what kind of fighter is that? That's like the Infinite Hadoken thing in the game. It's too cheap. and Goku (ex) could simply Shunkan Idou away from it in the first place
Alright this is true, it's like I'm doing propaganda....


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Piccolo doesn't need a lot of time to charge it up anymore. He only needed a lot of time vs. Radditzu because he was at a low power level. However, when Cell shot the Makankosappo at Piccolo (when they first fought), Cell didn't charge it up at all
In the Raditz saga, Piccolo just learned the technique, and didn;t have much time to improve on it, so he could charge it up fast, but any fighter can dodge it, that is if they are fast enough.

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What is Seraph wing? And he'd be too busy dodging the initial blasts that form the Renzoku Senkoudan to be able to form this Seraph wing counterattack
If only I had a game clip to show you. In the dictionary, Seraph means the highest form of angels. Gill grows out two wings, then the attack destroys basically anything, it looks like rainbows come out of it. Imagine Seraphic wing like Android 17's shield, except it comes out much faster, and hits you, and guards you at the same time. In the game, when Oro does his EX Yagyou-dama(huge fireball), Gill's Seraphic Wing obliterates it.

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pffft...teleport. The Kamikaze Ghost Clones home in on their targets. And he'll have to stop teleporting EVENTUALLY
Okay.... the SFers would get killed by this attack. except Twelve, and maybe Gill(but Gill cannot die, he is immortal, a deity).

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The Volley Ball isn't a beam or projectile. Pretty much, Gotenks grabs the enemy and crushes him into a soccer ball-sized sphere, then kicks it around like the World Cup in Brazil. While in the sphere, the enemy cannot counterattack until the attack wears off, so he is open to any other attack that is launched at him
Twelve can survive this. While Gill is immortal, his body is not, but his soul is. He can still fight with his soul.

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Bah...teleport. gotta come up with something better than that
Seraphic Wing, don't need to say more.


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your last 2 answers
seraphic Wing

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That didn't take long for Furiza, he did it in like a sec or two
Did you see how Freiza shot that beam and killed Dende? Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin didn't even see it, and Piccolo was on par with Freiza form 2. The person would have to be incredibly fast to escape Freizas implosion.

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true...but that's not comparing it to the SF characters
Alright... I'm getting dumber right now... anywho... Shin Bison would most likely lose, not sure about oro(max power). But Gill would definitely win. One reason is because Gohan is flesh, and cannot regenerate.


Anyways... Gill would just meteor shower anyone. I fhtey went up into the air like they usually do, Gill would call fire and ice from the heavens, and dump it all over the opponent.


I'll say some other things later. I have a list of how the Sfers projectiles work, how powerful they are, and the effect it has when it hits the opponent. I'll list that later.

Nantuko Joe 10-16-2002 06:16 AM

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DHalsim can fly for long periods of time, and you dont need huge ki blasts to win. Look at.....Nam, but if you mean DB"Z", then I guess you win on that part.
Although the part about Nam is true (he didn't have any ki manipulation and yet he still almost beat Goku), you gotta realize that that was way back in the day, where everyones power levels were around <300. I'd stake Nam at about 20. However, unless you have superhuman speed and strength at the same level of the Z fighters, i doubt he'd win

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So the Kienzan is impossible... heh... and those are swords, physical weapons, then have the power to be broken. ki cannot be broken, because ki is energy, and energy is never broken, it's everywhere.
That's what I said. See! I was defending you!

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Alright this is true, it's like I'm doing propaganda....
haha :D

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In the Raditz saga, Piccolo just learned the technique, and didn;t have much time to improve on it, so he could charge it up fast, but any fighter can dodge it, that is if they are fast enough.
Yes, but if they are not fast enough, or are caught off guard....R.I.P.

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If only I had a game clip to show you. In the dictionary, Seraph means the highest form of angels. Gill grows out two wings, then the attack destroys basically anything, it looks like rainbows come out of it. Imagine Seraphic wing like Android 17's shield, except it comes out much faster, and hits you, and guards you at the same time. In the game, when Oro does his EX Yagyou-dama(huge fireball), Gill's Seraphic Wing obliterates it.
So its like a shield that hurts your opponent? Wouldn't that require a pretty good amount of energy to form and sustain?

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Okay.... the SFers would get killed by this attack. except Twelve, and maybe Gill(but Gill cannot die, he is immortal, a deity).
Yes! :alien:

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your two answers
He can do the Seraph Wing repeatedly without any loss of energy?

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Twelve can survive this. While Gill is immortal, his body is not, but his soul is. He can still fight with his soul.
That is not possible (at least in DBZ terms). The only reason Goku was able to fight Buu in the Buu Saga was because his BODY was given back to him. However, had his body not been given to him, he would have returned to earth as a ghost. Ghosts can't fight. Therefore, even if Gill's spirit is immortal, his body would die but his spirit would not go to the afterlife, and he would become a permanent ghost

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Did you see how Freiza shot that beam and killed Dende? Piccolo, Gohan, and Krillin didn't even see it, and Piccolo was on par with Freiza form 2. The person would have to be incredibly fast to escape Freizas implosion.
That's my point. Unless the opponent IS incredibly fast, he's done for

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I'll say some other things later. I have a list of how the Sfers projectiles work, how powerful they are, and the effect it has when it hits the opponent. I'll list that later.
I also have a list of DBZ attacks and how they work

ajtimbs 10-16-2002 06:25 AM

i like sf but i don't like dbz :)

Nantuko Joe 10-16-2002 06:46 AM

quit spamming you nOOb! this topic is about DBZ versus SF. If you have nothing intelligent to say about DBZ versus SF, then stay the hell out of the topic. And don't PM me again...

ajtimbs 10-16-2002 06:51 AM

[quote:post_uid5="Nantuko Joe"][color=green:post_uid5]quit spamming you nOOb! this topic is about DBZ versus SF. If you have nothing intelligent to say about DBZ versus SF, then stay the hell out of the topic. And don't PM me again...[/color:post_uid5][/quote:post_uid5]
i don't like you to :angryfire:

Nantuko Joe 10-16-2002 06:55 AM

[quote:post_uid0="ajtimbs"][quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]quit spamming you nOOb! this topic is about DBZ versus SF. If you have nothing intelligent to say about DBZ versus SF, then stay the hell out of the topic. And don't PM me again...[/quote]
i don't like you to :angryfire:[/quote]
If only I had admin powers...


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