i knew that i didn't say when he began to teleport ,but did not know about the english version being wrong :D


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Yeah...the english version renames everything. see my post at the bottom of page 33

Your site doesnt' work for one, and for two, why did you post that?

no


Do you even know how fast the speed of light is?


Yes almost any SF character.


Krillin is right, Gotenks is wrong, Gohan is wrong, and Goku is wrong.



ROTFL


every X-men character except Jubille would kill Ryu.


ehh... I think you meant 1.5x, anywho, I put him about 1.2x above Android 17 in his first form after absorbing the humans, but I know I'm wrong, I havent put a lot of thought in the Cell saga.



Texas is way off, his Shinkuu Hadouken fully charged should be able to maybe... destroy a car.


That was from the dub...


Argh I missed that page in the manga, so I guess Gotenks can't go at the speed of light, and that means that no DB character can go at the speed of light(except maybe SSJ2 Vegetto). Thanks Joe for pointing that out.


SSJ3 Goku's PL is not 950 million, don't know where you got that from.

:crazy:dbz because broly can destory everything when he turns ssj4 and goku,gohan,gotenks,goten,trunks,vegta,vegto,gogeta ,can all turn in to ssj3 or 2 or 4 or just ssj :D

Was Brolly even in the manga's?

So, who exactly are those few SFers that would stand a chance besides Gill? I'm so curious to find out...

Well, Tarkan, I do know how fast light is, well, not exactly, but its like 800,000 m/s...something around there. I'm saying that you can't count on the animation. I know that Radizt can't move faster than light...now. I was pointing out that the English version makes it seem the all of the Z Fighters move faster than light by the way they have the animation. You dont have to put almost in bold Tarkan. I'm not as SF dumb as you might think. As for the list, I asked for a more accurate one. That is nowhere near a good one to go by. PLease try to understand my posts better when you quote me, and watch the spelling...you make me look stupid. :biggrin:

Exactly. There are no stated Power Levels after the Furiza Saga. Who said that anyway?

Actually, I meant it was prolly like this:

Semi-Perfect Cell = Cell + .5 Android 17

Lol

No problem

dubya tee eff? First off, Brolli doesn't exist in the manga, so he isn't a valid character. Next off, SSJ4 was only in GT. Since GT was not made into a manga format by Toriyama, it is not valid in this debate. Gogeta was also only from the Movies and GT, and therefore is not valid in this debate

No, he was not. And I think Tarkan thinks that Bison would also stand a chance.

When you can't see them fight, just see blurs, that doesnt' mean that they're going the speed of light. The human eye can only see like 24 frames per second. Therefore, the characters in DBZ could be moving at 12 frames per second, not the speed of light.

and don't worry, Tarkan makes me look stupid sometimes too. His superior genious does that sometimes :D

himself(planet namek listed SSJ3 Goku at like 450 million, which is wrong for various reasons.

hmm.... I don't know what power up to give Cell after absorbing Android 17, there isn't nothing stated or something that gives me a good clue, other than ROSAT facts.


Gill, Bison, Oro, Akuma, Dhalsim, Urien(maybe), Charlie(maybe), Gen(maybe).

That list is not potential wise since Gen would be way up there at the top fighters, it goes by the ki manipulation or the "death" power the character has. For Example:


Gen hardly has ki manipulation, he's an old geezer, but his speed, agility, and reflexes make up for this, he knows which parts of a body to attack(since he's an assassin of course).

Dhalsim has a whole lot of ki manipulation, he can meditate your brain and then destroy it, he can destroy buildings by just thinking, the only problem is that he doesn't have fighting experience.

Charlie might be just another powerful air force member, but he has a lot of ki manipulation. If you get hit by his sonic boom, it's like the slash of a kitana hitting your body. He also has the power to throw out as many sonic booms as he wants to without wasting a lot of energy(unlike the kamehameha).

Urien is a maybe. He has the power of wind/electrity, and earthly elements. his body is harder than iron, he can make a mirror that protects himself(from most projectile attacks).


Shin Bison is VERY powerful, a whole lot of ki manipulation, he's like a mutant, his attacks hdarly take up any of his energy, because he himself is basically energy manipulation. he can levatate(so no need for walking), he can fly, power up, teleport to whereever he wants to, he can do what most of the DB"Z" characters do.

Akuma is not like any other martial artist. His attacks are very damaging, even a gou hadouken has the power to kill someone(his regular fireball). His special moves can kill someone. he can teleport(but not where he wanst to, his teleportation is more like how you see the DB"Z" characters in the anime(though that's just speed). His shun goku satsu(raging demon) kills the opponents souls, and sends them to hell, his kongou kokuretsuzan had the power to destroys Ayers rock(the biggest monolith mountain in the world located in Australia. His Tenshou Kareki Jin shown in his endings completely destroyed a huge ship.

Oro has a whole lot of ki manipulation, maybe even more than Bison. He had the power to live up to 150, and is still alive right now(Krillin 10 years after the Buu saga is growing grey hair). He has to use one arm to not accidently kill his opponents, and when he uses two arms(shown in his EXed supers), they create a whole world for power. His EX kishin riki grabs you, then while he's holding on to you, he jumps up to the clouds.... then drops you like a war bomb. His EX Yagyou-Dama creates an orbed fireball so hgue that they had to shorten it due to gameplay rules(like Akuma's horrible defense). His EX Tengou-stone
gets all the debree(papers, beer bottles, soda cans, rocks, etc...) in the world, and it gets all around him, much like how Piccolo has rocks swirling around him like atoms, though the game play weakens this.

I'm not that smart, I just like to pay attention to specific things that require a lot of thinking.

[quote:post_uid0="TarkanX"]Goku's mom was never seen, and I don't know if Goku's father fought dodoria, since we never saw how planet vegeta was destroyed, it was just talked about.


Please slow down on the questions, if you want to know a lot about DB"Z", make a new topic.[/quote]
goku's father was killed by frieza his name was bardock ;)