Shut the hell up, u ass kissing loser. Ever since u became a mod u have been going around acting like u care about stuff just to make it seem like u r a good mod. And u know what????? Instead of putting new characters,sounds,AI,and side quests in the game, mabye the game shouldve been made playable first by eliminating lag.What would make the game interesting and bring people to it would be getting rid of lag in the first place. And i understand how u kiss tmy's ass to keep your mod status, and i admire that in some small way, but dont f**king talk to me like a god damn ######. I know he puts new things in the game to make them interesting, but dubya tee eff is the point if the game is unplayable because of lag?

fear_tetsuo: One good idea is to stop all of the profanity. You may have your opinions about the Mods, but it isn't always necessary to tell the rest of the forum. Talk it out with him instead of cussing him out.

To be on topic: If you haven't done this, you can tell us exactly what costs so much. Kepping up the servers, the site (Project X), and that expensive program you use can't be all thats causing budget problems for the game. We can work better and come up with more ideas if we knew what to eliminate that wasn't so essential.

fear tetsuo: comments like that just show me that you dont' know anything about the game or its past (even though u joined in jan)

i will not dignify u'r post with a remark (even though reading it fills me up with rage more than you can image)... but i will say this, everything that 2000warrior said was 100% right/true... everything in u'r post was 100% bitching with ZERO sign for game/structure/community understanding...

... i really am tired of this pointless bitching... respect the mods... and don't make posts/threads as though you know all our problems, and can solve them over night...

as mentioned before (countless times) the people who run this game know what they are doing... the fact that you are able to point out "obvious things" thinking that we can't (in my mind) is same as calling us "complete morons"...

this said... (and this being a semi-official thread)... any other posts that are NOT related to the topic will be deleted by either myself, or the other mods...

Gotenks13: what costs so much ?? well... let me try and break it down (again)...

at the heart of the problem is web-space for the 8 meg shockwave file (ie: the main game file)... the game gets about 35,000 hits per week... @ 8 megs each... that adds up (to about) 900+ gigs of transfer PER month...

now you may say "so what... get one of them $5 hosting plans i heard so much about.. u know... the ones with unlimited bandwidth !!" ... guess what... "unlimited bandwidth" truns into "your account is termiated for over-usage" when it comes to 900+ gigs per month...

that is (and always has been) our #1 problem...

now lets look at the back-end of the game... u have leftyfb and myself @ the heart of it all... lefty who needs to be able to handle 35,000 hits weekly for the HTML web site... plus, whatever hits the forum gets (which is quite a bit as well... even though so few of the users post)... all this drains lefty's internet connection (not to mention server/cpu resources.. but lets not even get into that)... his internet bill (which is MUCH higher than mine) ... u guessed it... has to be paid from his own pocket...

then you have me... same problem... u need to have server(s) for authentication, top scores, and whatever else is needed for security and to let everyone login/access the database/"check/create/edit their scores", etc...

.. bandwidth for that + server/upgrades/maintenance cost... (u guessed it again) ... straight otta my own empty pocket...

... for the record... the crappy/cheap machines that i'm forced to use (i dont' have cash for a shiny-new Dell server+) die every few months and need to be replaced with new junk... $40 for a power supply here, $300 for a new mother board there... every few months its something new... and every few months, all of that adds up... (i won't even bother puttin in number for lefty'z equipment, they are much higher... but unlike myself, his are not use 100% for the game)...

and then... last but not least... u have the chat servers... we have 2 now (the 2nd server... "projectx server" is the backup chat server that i host and only bring up when everyone else is down) ... each person that decides to run one has to have SOME sorta' server to host it on (all 24/7)... and, they have to give up about 300-600 megs of transfer PER DAY... (which is quite a bit if you think about it)

ALL of this is 110% essential... and i do mean ALL... nothing is wasted... and the corners have been cut so much, there is noffin left to make the game even close to "pointy"... :biggrin:

so.. there u have it... :biggrin:

(2000warrior: feel free to quote me on this each time this q is asked... i know u'r good @ that) :biggrin:



Edited By TMyApp on Oct. 30 2002 at 02:34

I wanna host a server!!!!!!!!!! Well errr...when I get this other computer working maybe you can tell me what to do :buttrock:

[quote:post_uid0="TMyApp"]now... the low-lag server idea is not too bad.. but.. again... we'd have to have quite a few members b4 i start thinking/coding that one...[/quote]
That is what i was referring too. I took it as you saying that you can code the game and make it less laggy for a bunch of ppl who put money towards the game. So i wondered " well why couldnt he code the game and make it less laggy for everyone, boy it would sure bring back alot of people since that lag is the main reason why most of the people left, and it would probably bring more money for the site." thats what i ment. And 2000warrior is a kiss ass. And if you feel it necessary to ban me then do it. Its not like i play the game anymore or care about being banned, so it really doesnt bother me if i get banned. Have a nice day.... :D

just think about it: if you just got the game system coding you wouldnt have a clue what to do.

he could of done it but he was creating the characters and all that other stuff perhaps he is doing it but perhaps its long. ;)

[quote:post_uid0="fear tetsuo"]Shut the hell up, u ass kissing loser. Ever since u became a mod u have been going around acting like u care about stuff just to make it seem like u r a good mod. And u know what????? Instead of putting new characters,sounds,AI,and side quests in the game, mabye the game shouldve been made playable first by eliminating lag.What would make the game interesting and bring people to it would be getting rid of lag in the first place. And i understand how u kiss tmy's ass to keep your mod status, and i admire that in some small way, but dont f**king talk to me like a god damn ######. I know he puts new things in the game to make them interesting, but dubya tee eff is the point if the game is unplayable because of lag?[/quote]
.......My new role model, :biggrin:

fear tetsuo: u dont' seem to read ANY of the posts... not to mention you have no understanding what so ever about the the "low lag server" idea

and if you WANT to get banned (making these types of post is same as asking for that)... then why not just leave the game/forum and not waste my 30 seconds pressing the damn ban button ??

i will now say this one last time to everyon else: STAY ON TOPIC

This will bad for me Im only 14 and my mom will not pay for this. Dang i gotta wait.

u kno that im here waiting tmy and if u need me just email me.. we have been talking about the hosting chat server .. and btw i have web space and i can hold a 100 mb.. so i can put the downloable version there..