When i first played I know exactly what to do with ryu tag, hadoukens hurricane kick, supers all those. We have people playing the game and no even bothering to figure out how to play the game.

Thats just plan stupid and I know people who ignore the rules or instructions, they prefer to figure it out themselfs. And I really get pissed off when Im in a server and my partner ask me how do u tag. Im like what the ### your @ss shouldnt even be playing the game if u dont even ow to ####### tag.

When I started out I went stright to pratice mode and was seeing how things works. After hours of pratice I went to play and kicked ass, you would not think I was a noob the way I played (first time) but know when new players join they go straight to start dont even bother to pratice or look in options to know what the keys are.

hmmm Roll's Friend, it doesnt take a genius to master a game with RYU as the only character.. I played the first time and to tell u the truth I got owned by the 'vets' but I did pretty well for a beginner. After a month I became well known (sorta), there was no limit to superjump (everyone HAD TO know how to use this to win), teleportation was usual, and was part of the obstacle to master to become as good as the top 10. Oh and the record option didn't appear until later (a little before tag team ability).

am i the only one to remember that we were like 1000 users back then and that about 500 of them were HADOKEN HAPPY THROWERS ?

and am i the only to remember that lag was 10x times stronger then it is now ?

come on, tarkan !
back then, i had fought about 25 opponents including yourself, and on that, only you actually used hand to hand combat !
that's why i didn't play that much back then cause skills were non existent !

i was playing back in september 2001, the first thing i knew, i was beaten up by people that only did hadokens all over the place while disappearing from one side to the other and before i had to turn around the already were appearing in the next side of the screen !

as far as STRATEGIES are concerned, hadokens happy throwers had always existed and they kinda were a lot more back then cause we didn't have that much peoples to play the game... you think its a shame to have a ratio of about 1:25 fight that good ? think again, that ratio didn't change one bit from the time being. the only thing that changed is the number of people playing the game !

half of the community is hadoken happy throwers while the other half are actually fighting hand to hand. it didn't changed from back then. except that back then, we were only a 1000, now we are 300000 !

so i say its just nrmal that you think you see a difference, but i don't see it ! back then or today, people like fear tetsuo kept on firing those hadokens all the times !

so whats the point of this? you cant complain about someone being cheap,
in real life, cheaters really exist, the idea is HOW YOU DEAL WITH THEM...

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]am i the only one to remember that we were like 1000 users back then and that about 500 of them were HADOKEN HAPPY THROWERS ?

and am i the only to remember that lag was 10x times stronger then it is now ?

come on, tarkan !
back then, i had fought about 25 opponents including yourself, and on that, only you actually used hand to hand combat !
that's why i didn't play that much back then cause skills were non existent !

i was playing back in september 2001, the first thing i knew, i was beaten up by people that only did hadokens all over the place while disappearing from one side to the other and before i had to turn around the already were appearing in the next side of the screen !

as far as STRATEGIES are concerned, hadokens happy throwers had always existed and they kinda were a lot more back then cause we didn't have that much peoples to play the game... you think its a shame to have a ratio of about 1:25 fight that good ? think again, that ratio didn't change one bit from the time being. the only thing that changed is the number of people playing the game !

half of the community is hadoken happy throwers while the other half are actually fighting hand to hand. it didn't changed from back then. except that back then, we were only a 1000, now we are 300000 !

so i say its just nrmal that you think you see a difference, but i don't see it ! back then or today, people like fear tetsuo kept on firing those hadokens all the times ![/quote]
and another thing i dont see why they made the option for players. i no some people dont have emails to register or anything. both thos f####n homo's come on the site then they choose a person to piss off then they go somewhere else on the site and find another person to piss off :angryfire:

I know how you guys feel, I too also remember it back then.
only 3 characters, RYU CHUN-LI and the Wolv. it didn't matter who you pick, what matters is what you can do with that character, and I don't mean just fireballs. But I did hate the lag. I'd do a 99 hits combo on a person and he didn't lose not one drop of health. I'd out smart him, beat him, do constant combos on him, but he never died until he did all his stuff and killed me. That still happens now.

Nowadays, the only way to deal with ##### is be spidey or chunli. With spidey you do a web ball, because the web ball recover time is faster than the hadoken, then follow up with the spdey kick. With Chun-li, do the fireball super and it with overcome the fireball.

it was best in like jan...to april

when the game was onwed by people like


darkvirus
dany
pip99
ecw
_FIGHTER_
nferno666
nightcrawler7
blaze985
skeevis
yourassismy
ether
coolkilla
afterburner
thelegacyweapon
dam carlmarx
tj.
vipernightgerm
MvCsucks (twat)
rs4ever
thenuge..



loads more i could do that losut 4 ever....when every1 new each other and when every1 went for rank..i remember when i got into the top 20...i was proper chuffed.And when i beat some1 good you actually got a lil rush.Back then i was a full on ryu user anyway

I was tutored, somewhat... My friend(in real life) told me some of Ryu's moves, I was never tutored in the game, but I did get some tactical strategies from fellow members.


What am I bitching about? I didn't ask for anything.

Are you saying the majority we fought are poorly skilled? And then you're leaning on to saying that we were rank hungry(just a guess). What about the actually good users. The best vs the best, the underdogs at it with eachother, the titans, what about them?

You're right, it doesn't take a genius, but you also have to know the game, not the engine, etc.. but you have to knwo strategies, and those strategies, you have to counter with other strategies, and it goes on.

Everyone is a hadouken happy thrower, but those(we) people had other stratgies than that.

I'm not sure about that... game specs, yeah, I guess, but IMO, the lag is stronger now than back then. Do you remember April 2002, when 4 player came out? In one day, this is how many of the greats appeared to be.

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Bah... useless info...

Like an ancient chinese proverb says... You have to seek further to find what you desire.

There was a technique called super jumping... you could do it a billion times... use it!

I don't knwo where you got 1:25 from, but you're way off! Have you seen Cyclops? Spider Man? Wolverine? and of course Ryu/Evil Ryu? Repetitive move, repetitive move, repetitive move, super, repeat, thats how ALMOST every game goes now adays. There was more hand to hand combat back then than now, and some helpers were actually useful before they got screwed (Spiral, Guile).

I assume you mean october Fear, he was a ####ie back then, he was learning, he has gotten much much better, and I tell you that he doesnt throw hadoukens all the time, or he wouldn't have won ToC3.

[quote:post_uid0="TarkanX"][/quote]
can't you just say that it didn't change from then and now ?
do you really see the difference that much ?
i sure don't see any difference except that in that time we were about 1000 while today we are 200000 more then before ! that's a lot of people you know, the difference is enormous. yet, the hadoken throwers didn't change from back then. half of use today is doing that stupidity thinking its the only to win a fight ! half of the 1000 back then had the same mind ! the only thing that makes you think there are more now a days, is that number of people ! since there is way more people then back then, you seem to have seen the problem getting bigger ! which it hasn't !

those i fight now a days, are less hadoken throwers then anyone i have fought back then !
its all a about how you see it !

can't say cause your stats doesn't mean anything to me !
never liked tiers (don't need to explain why)

all i'm gonna say is... from day one, i'm probably one of the few that even thou i have changed computers, i still had the very same OLD PHONE MODEM that is a stupid 33,600bps ! that's really old you know !

so i say that if players like myself that played all the time with that kind of modem have really really seen a very very big difference in lag ! hell, for once i had recently a real match with a ping under 100 at all time ! which back then i couldn't even have a fight under 3000 !

if that means lag is worst then how come the opponent never really teleported for the whole match ?
this adding to the fact that TMYAPP as one of the worst modem ever to play with his very own game !
if he says there is really a difference in lag and that it is a lot lesser then it was, then i'm gonna say that is must be true !

[sarcasm]REALLY ![/sarcasm]
sorry, but i knew that game quite some times even before i was playing this online game, but if i knew, i was sure that others were too, that's why most of the people were super jumping all the time blasting thru the air at all time !

the lag was the biggest monster ever in this game back then.
cause of it you couldn't block, you couldn't know where everything was coming from, you couldn't tell what was your energy level, you couldn't prevent anything ! you had to ANTICIPATE what your ennemy would do, which is impossible since when you fight 1000 people for the first time, you don't even stand a chance because you don't know them !

why did you think HELPERS were asked in the first place, cause nothing could be donme to avoid a super since when it appeared it was already over ! now we don't have that problem anymore, the SYNC SUPER option is there to fix that problem !

the super jump lock was added because there was actually too many players that were super jumping all the times adding in lag a lot ! (thou i doubt it, never really seen a difference in lag if i super jumped) anyway... if that lock was in, it was because mainly all the users were using the super jump ! so why was it a great escape move if everyone was super jumping all the time ?


forget about the 1:25 ratio, it was meaning 1 fight out of 25 is actually good !
characters aren't cheap, the users are, if the users are over using those moves, then it is your job to find a way to block and keep close to em ! if i can do that easily, i guess you can too !

as for the helpers, yeah i agree, guile was faster back then, now it just takes forever to come out. spiral was kind of good when it first came out, but now she's almost helpless, and i also remember the sentinel (damn your red one) it was pretty good as ANTI-AIR move ! but its back then ! can't live with that #### in my head ! you gotta let it go sometimes !

never fought him back then and i never fought him today...
one quetion... if he is that good and fight more close range, then why is he claiming that hadokens are the only way to beat someone in this game ?

Thank you very much pip :D and mvc2sucks was indeed one of those...hehehe.

Tark: yee-haw! wel Me guess dat make me dumb bcuz udder dan wen 4 plaier wuz put in,,,,,lag have impruveded a lot . uh-huh!


Tark I dont get it why do you even post or hang around if you dislike the game so much nowadays ??? . Im not even going to go into what I think. I will say this however I find it amusing that someone is talking about how things are now...when they hardly ever play.

One more thing...You know it's funny I have been active since I started (a concept that it hard to grasp for some vets) and i have had my share of up's and down's BUT, I kept myself at a certain level why is that so hard for some ppl?. When this is all said and done the greats will be looked upon as the best EVER not the best in the first year the game was up when most ppl were #####.

Hmmm let me see who would I consider to be better:

Someone who had a great record when the game was brand new and had limited characters?

or

Someone who has been through all the updates, all the madness and all the characters (up to now) and can still bring it!

Hmmm I dunno tark says im dumb so Ill have to go with the first one :p

Im sorry I had to quote it...there are not many times where I feel tark said something that just sounds silly but, there it is. I gotta ask one question tark....what the heck else do you expect?...hehehe



Edited By VIRUS on May 14 2003 at 13:43