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XtremetheZealot 11-02-2002 06:30 AM

I've never lost to a sentinel or cyclops player, I just g3t in cl0se and use BB and BBX, chain them together.

Hey, would chaining BB and BBXs' together be considered cheap? I wouldn't wanna get -10,000.

Nantuko Joe 11-02-2002 12:03 PM

Now I'm really pissed off. We need to either slow down the optic blast itself, or put a limit on the # of times you can use it, or slow down the time period between blasts.

WIth Ryu's hadoken, it's a single blast, so you can jump over it and land on the other side of the hadoken. However, CYclops' optic thing is a long beam. No matter where you jump, unless you land behind the opponent, you're screwed.

I just fought some kid yesterday that seemed honorable in the chat, but was a big wuss in the game. His name was HARRISON-S, and he kept using Cyclops beam. I died, and he said "sorry, my little brother picked cyclops". Then he said "I won't use cyclops, i promise". I go into the game, and he picks Cyclops and starts doing to optic blast thing. Then he says "sorry, i picked him by accident". Then I asked him why he kept using optic blast, and he kept saying "Wat? Wat do you mean?"

You see, if the timing is right, the Optic Blast can be used infinitely, and the only thing to save your ass is your helper.

TMy, you really need to check into this problem. It's a SERIOUS problem in the chat. Ppl are getting to very high ranks (HARRISON-S was at rank 30) just by being cheap. It pisses me off, and it pisses off the rest of the ppl in the game server. Just slowing down the blast, or the time between you can use blasts, or limiting the # of times you can use it in a row, and the problem will be more managable. But the way it is now, a kid who starts today can pull himself up to the Top 50 just by using these frigging optic blasts

Note: you DO know that I'm not talking about the HP blasts, but the Down, Forward, and LP blasts.


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Hey, would chaining BB and BBXs' together be considered cheap? I wouldn't wanna get -10,000.
YES! That is cheap. You gotta switch it up, use a different combination of moves. But if all you do is the same basic move and trap your opp. in the corner with it, then it's cheap. VERY CHEAP

darksamuria 11-02-2002 12:15 PM

I totally agree with Nantuko. I was playing with wolverine and this other guy was using cyclops and he kept doing optic blasts. I hit him with my helper but by the time I got to him he was hitting me with optic blasts again. Finally by some luck I did a jump towards him by blocking and then me and wolvie teared him up from there. If you find someone that does this I recomend doing my technique until the problem is fixed. Hope this helps
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princevegetam 11-02-2002 12:38 PM

[quote:post_uid0="XtremetheZealot"]I've never lost to a sentinel or cyclops player, I just g3t in cl0se and use BB and BBX, chain them together.

Hey, would chaining BB and BBXs' together be considered cheap? I wouldn't wanna get -10,000.[/quote]
no, not really. when you trap someone in the corner with that thing, everytime you start up the move, there will be MASSIVE lag. this gives your opponent time to escape and fight back.and the recovery time of BB and BBX is tremendous. you are so vulnerable to lag when either is used.

darksamuria 11-02-2002 12:43 PM

I don't know about u prince, but it has always worked for me ???

princevegetam 11-02-2002 12:48 PM

that's impossible, i always corner trap with wolvie and an experienced ryu user always suddenly appear from the other side of the screen ready to do a shinku hadoken.

Juggernaut 11-02-2002 01:39 PM

Yes some attacks should be tweaked but thats me.
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SolidSnake76 11-02-2002 01:51 PM

optic blast is the most cheapest move in the game. a person can do this the entire match and win, getting a perfect. but i always overcome those who do that.

what tmy could do about bbx is tone down the amount of damage it does.

Nantuko Joe 11-02-2002 02:24 PM

I don't know about you, but I'm more concerned about Cyclops' beam than Wolverine's attack power. Not many ppl at all are exploiting Wolverine, but Cyclops is becoming a BIG problem

princevegetam 11-02-2002 02:37 PM

there's nothing wrong with any of the characters except cyclops.

i mean, sure the other characters are cheap, but if you calculate everything, it all balances out.

but cyclops doesn't. this guy has got everything pumped up. his optic blasts are not possible to completely avoid. here is why:

1. block it with your own fireball, but wait, i frogot, it goes right through any fireball.

2. jump over it, but the opponent can fck you up in the air with that HP optic blast, which gets you stuck and deals insane damage for such a small move.

3. jump block. probrably the most effective move, but an experienced cyclops cheap ass can just triple jump to the other side and keep on doing the same cheap ####.

4. use wolverine's slide claw. this move is okay, but cyclops' optic sweep will fck you up.


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