All i got to say is street fighter is the best but is goku nad ryu got into a fight goku would win with his fire ball

[quote:post_uid0="DarkOmega"]All i got to say is street fighter is the best but is goku nad ryu got into a fight goku would win with his fire ball[/quote]
Wow....that was deep....

I once again (literally, for like the sixtieth time in this entire topic) ask that anyone who does not have an INTELLIGENT contribution for this topic to simply not post. it's that simple.

has any1 even seen street fighter alpha on dvd??

[quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]Please. If you have nothing intelligent and on-topic to say, don't say anything at all.[/quote]
r talking 2 me?
????

ok this has to stop dbz would win because they can blow them selves up and anything standing in there way for thousands of miles even more ending anyone and anything,and yes he's talking to you :withstupid::angryfire:

Street fighter would win dbz people would lose but think about it if the dbz people never learned to turn into supersaiyin they would lose to every fight but street fighter is different unlike dbz they don't run away every time they have a fight. :D can you picture goku run away from a fight with ryu yeah becuz he runs away on most of his fights and dbz people always train before a big fight ex. cell games, androids, frieza, buu, vegeta and nappa. Also everyone thinks that dbz would win that's only becuz they turn supersaiyin woop de doo I can do the same go to a supermarket and dye my hair blonde and go buy green contacts and shave every hair on my body and get hair extensions and wow I look like a supersayin

Um...yeah. What does the SF Alpha anime have to do with the debate?

Thousands of miles? Get real. Also, this is a somewhat-equal powerlevel debate. In other words, the Street Fighter team is in the same range (hundreds of millions) as the DBZ team. Also, the weaker people in DBZ (Tien, Yamucha, etc) are also stronger, just for the purpose of the debate.

Are you serious? First off, even if this wasn't an equal powerlevel fight, the Saiya-jins in DBZ, even while NOT as a Super Saiya-jin, have powerlevels in the high millions. Hell, while on earth, Vegeta could have easily destroyed the Planet Earth, and he had a powerlevel of about 24,000 (while using the Gyarriku ho). The strongest Street Fighter could probably barely destroy a large building with a ki blast.

Also, could you please tell me when Goku ran away from a fight? Because I have a complete version of the manga, and not once did Goku ever try to run away from a fight. Even if his legs are broken, he still tries to fight.

You are also an idiot. Super Saiya-jin is not simply a change of hair and eye color. Super Saiya-jin multiplies one's powerlevel by around 30-40x. So please know your information before posting something useless such as you just posted, because you really don't know what you're talking about.

[quote:post_uid13="Wave Master"]Street fighter would win dbz people would lose but think about it if the dbz people never learned to turn into supersaiyin they would lose to every fight but street fighter is different unlike dbz they don't run away every time they have a fight. :D can you picture goku run away from a fight with ryu yeah becuz he runs away on most of his fights and dbz people always train before a big fight ex. cell games, androids, frieza, buu, vegeta and nappa. Also everyone thinks that dbz would win that's only becuz they turn supersaiyin woop de doo I can do the same go to a supermarket and dye my hair blonde and go buy green contacts and shave every hair on my body and get hair extensions and wow I look like a supersayin[/quote:post_uid13]
how dare you moke the saiyins :angryfire: how dare you.....

[quote:post_uid0="iori"][quote:post_uid0="Wave Master"]Street fighter would win dbz people would lose but think about it if the dbz people never learned to turn into supersaiyin they would lose to every fight but street fighter is different unlike dbz they don't run away every time they have a fight. :D can you picture goku run away from a fight with ryu yeah becuz he runs away on most of his fights and dbz people always train before a big fight ex. cell games, androids, frieza, buu, vegeta and nappa. Also everyone thinks that dbz would win that's only becuz they turn supersaiyin woop de doo I can do the same go to a supermarket and dye my hair blonde and go buy green contacts and shave every hair on my body and get hair extensions and wow I look like a supersayin[/quote]
how dare you moke the saiyins :angryfire: how dare you.....[/quote]
lmfao how gay are you. it's a goddamn cartoon show you dumbass.

[quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]------------------------------------------------------------

No, in DB, they still used their ability to sense the opponent's ki, because when they're pulling off Zanzokens (after-images) and such, they can't exactly see nor hear where the opponent is going to be next. So no, you're not correct.

If they start a battle off with a Taiyoken, the opposition would be blinded for a few seconds, and knowing Vegeta, he'd just powerup a massive attack just to kill them (IE: Bikubang or Final Flash). Or, Kuririn can hit the Taiyoken, and then use a Kienzan, and that would be HIS plan, totally independent from any other plan they would have. Same thing would go if Tien uses a Shinshin no Ken to create clones, each uses a Taiyoken, and then have each clone use a Shin Kikouhou.

And I never said exploiting Goku's weakness for food would be invalid. Hibiki did. Earlier on, Hibiki said that no character personalities are valid in this debate, so Gotenks wouldn't be so cocky, Goku wouldn't be so cautious and forgiving, etc. Hibiki did this, well, because I said that in a NORMAL fight, Kid Buu wouldn't be teaming with Goku, and Akuma wouldn't be teaming with Ryu (etc, you get the idea) so Hibiki rid us of character personalities.[/quote]


If the DBZ fighters have a better fighting power than the SFers why would they use such strong combinations on weaklings........(I mean weak compared to there strongest warriors) ...why would they use such combinations you are explaining.

THEY WOULD NEVER START A MATCH THAT WAY NEVER!!!!! The DBZ fighters would sense there power levels then fight at partial strenght to see if any of the SF fighters are holding back....then if one of them could atleast stand hand to hand with one of the weaker DBZ fighters.....Yamcha,Tien,etc......then maybe those combinations would be used....

(Note:You already know this,but..I'm just restating it...Krillen would never use his signature death move Distructo Disc. Unless his opponent is far stronger than him....(Like almost everone he has battle....he didn't use a Distructo Disc on Guldo of the ginyu force....and his power level was way lower than krillens....besides there personalities....wouldn't allow them to finish someone with a dirty tactic you mentioned....)

I still believe that Tien was far stronger in the series than he was given credit for...

[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"][quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]------------------------------------------------------------

No, in DB, they still used their ability to sense the opponent's ki, because when they're pulling off Zanzokens (after-images) and such, they can't exactly see nor hear where the opponent is going to be next. So no, you're not correct.

If they start a battle off with a Taiyoken, the opposition would be blinded for a few seconds, and knowing Vegeta, he'd just powerup a massive attack just to kill them (IE: Bikubang or Final Flash). Or, Kuririn can hit the Taiyoken, and then use a Kienzan, and that would be HIS plan, totally independent from any other plan they would have. Same thing would go if Tien uses a Shinshin no Ken to create clones, each uses a Taiyoken, and then have each clone use a Shin Kikouhou.

And I never said exploiting Goku's weakness for food would be invalid. Hibiki did. Earlier on, Hibiki said that no character personalities are valid in this debate, so Gotenks wouldn't be so cocky, Goku wouldn't be so cautious and forgiving, etc. Hibiki did this, well, because I said that in a NORMAL fight, Kid Buu wouldn't be teaming with Goku, and Akuma wouldn't be teaming with Ryu (etc, you get the idea) so Hibiki rid us of character personalities.[/quote]


If the DBZ fighters have a better fighting power than the SFers why would they use such strong combinations on weaklings........(I mean weak compared to there strongest warriors) ...why would they use such combinations you are explaining.

THEY WOULD NEVER START A MATCH THAT WAY NEVER!!!!! The DBZ fighters would sense there power levels then fight at partial strenght to see if any of the SF fighters are holding back....then if one of them could atleast stand hand to hand with one of the weaker DBZ fighters.....Yamcha,Tien,etc......then maybe those combinations would be used....

(Note:You already know this,but..I'm just restating it...Krillen would never use his signature death move Distructo Disc. Unless his opponent is far stronger than him....(Like almost everone he has battle....he didn't use a Distructo Disc on Guldo of the ginyu force....and his power level was way lower than krillens....besides there personalities....wouldn't allow them to finish someone with a dirty tactic you mentioned....)

I still believe that Tien was far stronger in the series than he was given credit for...[/quote]
You apparently did not understand, or chose to ignore, when I said that CHARACTER PERSONALITIES ARE NULL AND VOID IN THIS DEBATE. As in, you can't say "DBZ would start off at partial strength yadda yadda yadda", because that is their personality. Personalities are a no-no in this debate. As in, you can't say "Kuririn wouldn't use Kienzan etc etc" because, once again, you're talking about his PERSONALITY. This debate does NOT include the personality traits of SF or DBZ. Therefore, in this debate, Kuririn can indeed use Kienzan (what you dubbies call Destructo Disc) without warning.

You also apparently did not understand, or chose to ignore, when I said that THIS IS AN EQUAL-POWERLEVEL FIGHT. If this was not an equal powerlevel fight, DBZ would win within moments. The Z fighters (minus the humans) have powerlevels in the high hundred millions, a couple in the billions, while, judging from the power of the attacks of SF, the SFers have powerlevels far below 10,000 (Vegeta, with a power of 24,000 while using his Gyarriku ho, had the abilit to blow up the earth. None of the SFers have this kind of power.

Because of that, this is an equal powerlevel/range type of fight. As in, all of the fighters are about a few hundred million normally, and then they can increase in power with any transformations they might have. This includes the abilities to go Super Saiya-jin, and whatever power increase abilities that SF possesses.

You should carefully read that post, realize your big misunderstanding/mistake/whatever, and then post again should you choose.

DB"Z" wins, we can all give up now.... SSJ2 vegetto would be way too fast before Gill can heat the weather or freeze it. The other SF chaarcters can't do much except buy some time.

8 months jeez.... DB"Z" has one, and so has the people who supported it.

And just so this topic can end, I'll show you what the SF characters can onyl do against DB"Z" characters.


Adon: nothing

Shin Akuma: The DB"Z" characters are faster and have more chi power, even though Akuma split Ayers Rock in half, the DB"Z" characters can do much more.

Alex: nothing

Hugo: even with their great defense, he's just like Rikuum, and Rikuum was beaten.

Balrog: nothing

Birdie: nothing

Blanka: nothing

Cammy: nothing

Charlie: Though his sonic booms are as fast as the speed of light, and are like the slice of a kitana blade, and the fact that he can chuck so mmany without wasting much energy, the DB"Z" characters that are faster than the speed of light will take him down.

Chunli: nothing

Cody: nothing

Dan: nothing

Dee Jay: nothing

Dhalsim:

Dudley: nothing

Eagle: nothing

E. honda: nothing

Elena: nothing

Fei Long: nothing

Geki: nothing

Gen: his assasin techniques wont work since he's not fast enough to tuch the DB"Z" characters.

Gill:

Guile: he's a lesser version of charlie

Guy: nothing

Ibuki: nothing

12 dolls: nothing

Joe: nothing

karin: nothing

Ken: nothing

Lee: nothing

Maki: nothing

Makoto: nothing

M. Bison: he'll put up a tough fight, but not one that the DB"Z" characters would have to try their hardest

Necro: nothing

Oro: he's like the DB"Z" warriors, though I doubt he'd win if he was teamed up against, especially since theres a lot of many strong DB"Z" characters, and a few strong SF characters

Q: he has self destruct, but I doubt its powerful enough

R. Mika: nothing

remy: nothing

Retsu: nothing

Rolento: nothing

Rose: though she has powers of reflection, and illusion, she can easily be taken down, VERY easily, as easy as Charlie.

Evil Ryu/Ryu: nothing

Sagat: nothing

Sakura: nothing

Sean: nothing

Sodom: nothing

T Hawk: nothing

Twelve: He's like Buu, but a weaker version(powers wise, and speed wise)

Urien: He has the powers of wind/lightning, and earth. His body is made up of Iron, he can also make a reflector, still the DB"Z" characters won't have much of a problem beating him, though he would put up a better fight then Charlie.

Vega: nothing

Yun and yang: nothing

Zangief: nothing

basically, it'd be Dhalsim, Gill, Oro, and Twelve vs the rest of the DB"Z" cast

Twelve can be beaten since he's a lesser form of Buu(any Buu, doesn't matter which).

Dhalsim is really strong, since he can teleport, control minds, and destroy them, but he doesn't have experience in fighting, so he'll lose

Oro like I said before is like a DB"Z" characters, but whats good if theres a lot vs a few?

and Gill... well the DB"Z" characters will beat him with their swift movement


So there, DB"Z" wins......

dragon ball would definitely win. if they could destroy a planet they could easily kill them

[quote:post_uid0="Disasta"]dragon ball would definitely win. if they could destroy a planet they could easily kill them[/quote]
That's been said a hundred times already..

I meant sound, not light... my mistake.

[quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]Yep, DBZ's won. [/quote]
98 pages....I'd say it's about damn time.

No... this... can't be...

Nantuko you actually stayed here and argued. Well i was here arguing and had dbz's side for a while till this topic got moved. And the only one who made a decent post was you. So i just ignored it.

When you guys made the Street Fighters power levels even to the Dragon Ball Z fighters did you make the Street Fighters stronger or the DBZ fighters weaker?

[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"]When you guys made the Street Fighters power levels even to the Dragon Ball Z fighters did you make the Street Fighters stronger or the DBZ fighters weaker?[/quote]
I guess we made SF stronger, I guess. Hell, until about a week ago in an aim convo with hibiki I was unaware it was an equal PL fight. It kinda went like this:

SSJ Nantuko: When you think about it, DBZ could prolly destroy SF in an instant. DBZ fighters have powerlevels in the high hundred millions, and a couple are in the low billions. SF characters, judging by the powers of their attacks, would have powerlevels far below 5,000. Vegeta, with a powerlevel of 24,000 (on earth, using the Gyarriku Ho) had the ability to destroy the earth. No SF character has power anywhere near that. So in actuality, DBZ would in without question.

Saikyostudent: Well that's why we made it an equal powerlevel debate, so it would only be a debate about their special abilities and such.



However, now that I think about it, when Tarkan started this thread, he had no intention of making it an equal-PL debate. I believe he ALLUDED to it when he said

"I sincerely doubt Ryu could defeat Piccolo, unless he gave into the Dark Hadou"

because Piccolo is a few hundred million times stronger than Ryu normally.

Either way, it doesn't matter. WE WIN!

But making there power levels even...hmmmm I don't know Joe?

I mean current skills of Street Fighters would be very good if thier strengths were multiplied....hmm...

A simple hadoken being at the same level as Goku's signature ki wave...hmmm SF might could win then...

Oh and thank you for sharing that info Joe.

I went on every Dragonballz site (almost all) and i had the averge power levels of each character in the Buu saga.I compard what each site said what there power levels were and got the average

Android 18: 110,000,000
Kibit: 225,000,000
Kaioshin: 250,000,000
Doubler: 275,000,000
Fat Buu: 380,000,000
Majin Buu: 390,000,000
Majin Buu (with Gotenks and Piccolo): 500,000,000
Majin Buu (with Gotenks, Piccolo, and Gohan): 550,000,000
Goku: 5,000,000
Super Sayian 2 Goku: 360,000,000
Super Sayian 3 Goku: 450,000,000
Piccolo: 200,000,000
Gohan: 3,000,000
Super Sayian Gohan: 275,000,000
Super Sayian 2 Gohan: 325,000,000
Gohan (with Z Sword): 360,000,000
Mystic Gohan: 450,000,000
Goten: 30,000,000
Super Sayian Goten: 90,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
Super Sayian Trunks: 95,000,000
Gotenks: 250,000,000
Super Sayian Gotenks: 300,000,000
Super Sayian 3 Gotenks: 410,000,000
Vegeta: 5,000,000
Majin Vegeta: 360,000,000
Vegetto: 600,000,000
Super Sayian Vegetto: 750,000,000
Krillin: 1,500,000 :laugh:

Nantuko Joe like I said to solidsnake in another post " calm down don't burst a vein or anything" it's just a cartoon it's not real life I think some people wanna say this to you too. :laughlong:

....I can't believe that even Tarkan said that Dbz would win... But, I does not matter anymore. I never had the strength for this debate, and I only kept going so that someone somewhere (I was hoping Dan) could find a way to win. I suppose SF is just too down to earth..

...Dan, If you can, please, consider my pm to you..

I can't believe this thread isn't dead yet :shocked:

99 pages?!?

[quote:post_uid0="iori"]I went on every Dragonballz site (almost all) and i had the averge power levels of each character in the Buu saga.I compard what each site said what there power levels were and got the average

Android 18: 110,000,000
Kibit: 225,000,000
Kaioshin: 250,000,000
Doubler: 275,000,000
Fat Buu: 380,000,000
Majin Buu: 390,000,000
Majin Buu (with Gotenks and Piccolo): 500,000,000
Majin Buu (with Gotenks, Piccolo, and Gohan): 550,000,000
Goku: 5,000,000
Super Sayian 2 Goku: 360,000,000
Super Sayian 3 Goku: 450,000,000
Piccolo: 200,000,000
Gohan: 3,000,000
Super Sayian Gohan: 275,000,000
Super Sayian 2 Gohan: 325,000,000
Gohan (with Z Sword): 360,000,000
Mystic Gohan: 450,000,000
Goten: 30,000,000
Super Sayian Goten: 90,000,000
Trunks: 35,000,000
Super Sayian Trunks: 95,000,000
Gotenks: 250,000,000
Super Sayian Gotenks: 300,000,000
Super Sayian 3 Gotenks: 410,000,000
Vegeta: 5,000,000
Majin Vegeta: 360,000,000
Vegetto: 600,000,000
Super Sayian Vegetto: 750,000,000
Krillin: 1,500,000 :laugh:[/quote]
Just for the hell of it, i'm gonna take that PL list you gave me and write in the more accurate levels:

Android 18: 60,000,000
Kibit: 200,000,000
Kaioshin: 225,000,000
Doubler: 355,000,000
Majin Buu: 625,000,000
Fat Buu: 300,000,000
Thin Buu: 325,000,000
Super Buu: 800,000,000
Super Buu (with Gotenks and Piccolo): 1,250,000,000
Super Buu (w/Goten, Trunks, and Piccolo): 820,000,000
Super Buu (with Gotenks, Piccolo, and Gohan): 1,550,000,000
Goku: 5,000,000
SSJ Goku: 175,000,000
Super Sayian 2 Goku: 400,000,000
Super Sayian 3 Goku: 600,000,000
FPSSJ3 Goku: 700,000,000
Piccolo: 110,000,000
Gohan: 4,000,000
Super Sayian Gohan: 176,000,000
Super Sayian 2 Gohan: 345,000,000
Gohan (with Z Sword): 500,000,000
Mystic Gohan: 900,000,000
Goten: 3,000,000
Super Sayian Goten: 100,000,000
Trunks: 3,500,000
Super Sayian Trunks: 110,000,000
Gotenks: 14,700,000
Super Sayian Gotenks: 530,000,000
Super Sayian 3 Gotenks: 800,000,000
Vegeta: 5,000,000
SSJ2 Majin Vegeta: 400,000,000
Vegetto: 22,000,000
Super Sayian 2 Vegetto: 2,000,000,000
Krillin: 95,000

[quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]Majin Buu (with Gotenks, Piccolo, and Gohan): 550,000,000[/quote]
Umm Joe I think this one is a mistake...I'm not saying your wrong but gotenks wasn't in fusion during the absorbing of gohan.....his 30 mins... were up...

[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"][quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]Majin Buu (with Gotenks, Piccolo, and Gohan): 550,000,000[/quote]
Umm Joe I think this one is a mistake...I'm not saying your wrong but gotenks wasn't in fusion during the absorbing of gohan.....his 30 mins... were up...[/quote]
yep that's true I remember......he absorbed Gohan cuz the fusion of gotenks was over..........anyway......maybe he made a mistake

Ludacris Joe making a mistake never..... ;) :laughlong:

[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"][quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]Majin Buu (with Gotenks, Piccolo, and Gohan): 550,000,000[/quote]
Umm Joe I think this one is a mistake...I'm not saying your wrong but gotenks wasn't in fusion during the absorbing of gohan.....his 30 mins... were up...[/quote]
It was a typing mistake man...i just copied and pasted iori's original list and altered it, and merely forgot to change "Gotenks" to "Goten and Trunks"

You also cut off part of the powerlevel. I put 1,550,000,000, not 550,000,000.

i vote for Dragon Ball becauce is cool

[quote:post_uid0="azn_boi55"]i vote for Dragon Ball becauce is cool[/quote]
thats not a really good reason ???

[quote:post_uid13="azn_boi55"]i vote for Dragon Ball becauce is cool[/quote:post_uid13]
If thats all you have to say dont post here,its not a good reason :angryfire:

yo but x-men is way better then dragon ball z