Once again, I REITERATE that Taiyoken DOES NOT CAUSE PAIN. IT CAUSES BLINDNESS, AND PEOPLE GRIP THEIR EYES BECAUSE THEY CAN'T SEE. IT IS A NATURAL REACTION. THEY ARE NOT IN PAIN. Even if Gill was, he could just Seraphic Wing once he couldn't see, and he'd obliterate everything around him.

:shocked: over 800 replies

lisblove: That was so unnessecary.

Dan: What makes you think it doesn't cause pain? Sometimes I'd look into the sun. I feel pain in my eyes. All I can do is wait a second til' the pain goes away. Imagine something a hundred times worse. Dan, you fail to realize that even the brightest star (which indeed would cause pain if you glanced it at an angle) pales in comparison to the Taiyoken. It will hurt. Thats all I can really say. Gill will be helpless, along with any other fighter.

Filler contradicts the manga, so no.

[quote:post_uid0="Gotenks13"]Dan, Kami is the "god" of earth right? Do you think he can take a Taiyoken? No...Even supernatural beings are affected by those attacks, as long as they have a physical body to take damage. Gill has a physical body, so certain attacks can render him helpless. Taiyoken attacks pretty much everyone's weakness causing a tremendous amount of pain, no matter who you are.[/quote]
Let's just put a few differences between the two, k?

Gill's literally a god, who is extremely powerful and has a soul that is immortal.

Kami is the gaurdian of the earth, isn't very powerful (in comparison only), and can be killed off.

and as far as that thing about the constant pain goes:
What about when Gen uses Zen-ai? That attack damages even after the attacked is done. Yet, somehow, you can still move, attack, etc. Now, what makes you think that a bit of pain in the eyes is going to stop Gill from lashing out with Seraphic Wing?

Prince Vegeta, I like SF, and I used to like DBZ... and I don't think either of them are "stupid". But this topic is without a doubt stupid, because it will never end, because you're debating imaginary characters... it's like debating the bible, when your debating something as imaginary as that, you can never "win" a conversation.

81 pointless pages, and counting.... (well, hopefully not.)

i think db would win but akuma and bison would put up a good fight and no dbz can not [U] go as fast as light it just semmes like they do and leaving four after imagis is not good cause it means u are moving slower than if it only had one

ok..

Tantum, please don't start.

[quote:post_uid0="Tantum"]Prince Vegeta, I like SF, and I used to like DBZ... and I don't think either of them are "stupid". But this topic is without a doubt stupid, because it will never end, because you're debating imaginary characters... it's like debating the bible, when your debating something as imaginary as that, you can never "win" a conversation.

81 pointless pages, and counting.... (well, hopefully not.)[/quote]
Tantum, butt out. You're spamming, and you know what spamming'll get you.

oh on the ground i think sf will win because dbz is good in the air but not se good on land. umm if a dbz character was hit in the air could he fly and come back to the ground or just fall?

I'm not spamming at all. The only reason I'll get out of this useless topic is because Roll asked politely. But before I go, I'd like to give you a few pointers.

#1) DBZ isn't real, it's a TV show.
#2) SF isn't real, it's a game.
#3) Please don't ruin your life believing it is.
#4) You probably don't realize your brain is fried, but you will when you look back.
#5) Don't tell me what to do like you're some hot shot. Because you aren't.
#6) This is indeed a pointless topic, it will never end, you're just wasting time.
#7) I'm just looking out for your best interests, please realize that, and stop this topic.


That being said, you're free to do whatever you want. But if you're smart you'll listen to my pointers.


P.S. Don't flame me, it's not gonna help.

Ok...I won't flame you.

...info please...

[quote:post_uid0="Tantum"]#5) Don't tell me what to do like you're some hot shot. Because you aren't.[/quote]
Don't tell us what to do like you're some hot shot. Because you aren't.

Zen-ai is a rapid attack that Gen can use that, after he lands the final hit, causes severe pain to the person for several seconds, and then debilitates them with a stun after those seconds are up. It causes pain, but while the person is in pain they aren't debilitated. It is after they lose a lot of life that they are debilitated.

i think its gotta be dragonball!!

coz they look stronger snd they fight better!!!

^^You have a lot to learn pal.

Dan: Debilitated meaning helpless, right? I forget... :biggrin:

Yes, helpless. Stunned out of their wits.

[quote:post_uid0="Tantum"]I'm not spamming at all. The only reason I'll get out of this useless topic is because Roll asked politely. But before I go, I'd like to give you a few pointers.

#1) DBZ isn't real, it's a TV show.
#2) SF isn't real, it's a game.
#3) Please don't ruin your life believing it is.
#4) You probably don't realize your brain is fried, but you will when you look back.
#5) Don't tell me what to do like you're some hot shot. Because you aren't.
#6) This is indeed a pointless topic, it will never end, you're just wasting time.
#7) I'm just looking out for your best interests, please realize that, and stop this topic.


That being said, you're free to do whatever you want. But if you're smart you'll listen to my pointers.


P.S. Don't flame me, it's not gonna help.[/quote]
....... :lol: :D what a N()()B

1) It's obvious that DBZ is a TV show
2) It's Obvious that Street Fighter Is a game
3) I think your the only 1 who's ruined his own life believing that is is.
4) At least we had a brain in the 1st place.
5) You aren't a hot shot either. Take a look in a mirror yourself.
6) Then dont post in the fourm
7) Why should we stop this topic?

uh oh, that wasn't smart. actually gokan, he's been in the forum longer than you have. a whole year longer to be exact.

I dont care. He has to be put in his place.

...Can someone please defend the DB side, please?

Okay, but what exactly are we getting at now?

The fact that, no matter what, Seraphic Wing ownz you.

-Put your hands on the ground, DB makes the world go round...yeah-

[img:post_uid4]http://www.dominican.edu/forstudents/Cheerleaders.jpg[/img:post_uid4]

and hush, cuz theyre lethal ;)

Don't you DARE spam this thread.

:( sorry most honourable master Dan

lol...master Dan...

Goku stil has his Instant Transmission(or its Japanese name which I don't know). Besides, its extremely rare that an attack they even they can't see would exist. And don't you say Sepharic Wing. Even if they didn't see it, I doubt it would kill all of them in one hit.

Goku takes one or two hits, but is still alive. Instant Transmission to a very, very, very far of place. Power up(if possible at that time), and push through Sepharic Wing with flight or an extemely long Kamehameha. Gill dies. Depeding on the situation, Veggeto just might be the fighter. Then what? Gill's Sepharic Wing couldn't last too long against Veggeto if the attacker himself would get his body destroyed by him.

Well, I'm back from my long absence, and now with a brand new iMac G4, 800mHz processor, 80-gig hard drive, 512 MB RAM, CD-R/W, DVD-R/W, and a bunch more $hit. Soon I'll have Photoshop, so I can stop bugging you guyz to do my work :D

Now, back to this debate...

Oh, please, now yer gettin desperate. "...only if they aren't a GOD..." that's the biggest load of bull....

...whatever, man. Here's another one of my solutions that you CANT "he's a god"-me about:

1.) Goku and/or Kaiobito teleports all DBZ fighters to Kaiobito's planetoid
2.) Goku goes SSJ3 and begins powering up a Kamehameha (using more energy for it than he ever has)
3.) Just as Goku shouts the "Ha!", he uses Shunkan Idou
4.) Goku arrives at Gill's position the exact, immediate instant that Goku's Kamehameha is launched.
5.) Gill is destroyed.

Supports to this theory:
-True, Gill can launch a Seraph Wing instantly; however, he does not have an instant/immediate/instantaneous reaction time. If Goku's Kamehameha is launched the INSTANT Goku arrives at Gill, and Goku is behind Gill, Gill would not only have to be aware of Goku's immediate presence, but have to have a reaction time of LESS THAN INSTANT (which is NOT possible) to react to Goku and launch the Seraph Wing (which is NOT possible). The Kamehameha hits Gill before Gill knows Goku is there and kills him.

-Neither Gill nor any other SF character has a Ki-locating teleportation, and they cannot follow them to Kaiobito's planetoid.

-Gill cannot sense ki, and therefore would NOT be aware of Goku's presence behind him until the Kamehameha hit him in the back



And please, I beg of you ppl: if you're not making a serious, fact-based, non-spam contribution to this topic, I'll have to ask you to leave. TarkanX, Dan, and I have debated long and hard on this topic, and we don't need a bunch of ppl with nothing but general spam clogging it up.

Examples:

combo MASTA: "-Put your hands on the ground, DB makes the world go round...yeah-"

azn_boi35: "i think its gotta be dragonball!! coz they look stronger snd they fight better!!!"

Gokan with his list

Tantum with his constant bashing of how stupid this thread is (if you don't like the thread, then simply don't post. But we don't need to see your posts on how stupid this thread is)

...and a million other ppl sitting there and spam-posting. If yer not gonna make an intelligent post that pertains to the topic, then don't post here.
[/color]

We got rid of any personality traits they would have.

Just one question. Which universe are we using? Because the SF universe and the DB universe are different universes.

Neither I guess...

[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"]I've realized something about this topic the fight could never happen.


4.Vegeta..hell he would fight..everyone.

5.Piccolo wouldn't fight certian street fighters because he has the info from Kami who is evil in the world and who is not.

6.Krillen only fights in defense.

7.Akuma would fight everyone...[/quote]
Would Akuma fight Vegeta Then?

No go Joe. Seraphic Wing is instantaneous. There is no way to get through it. He'd just do it immediately. If we are eliminating personality and going straight on abilities, then Gill has won. There is no countering a one-hit kill instantaneous no-wind-up infinite attack. DBZ'd never see it coming. This debate is over.

[quote:post_uid0="Roll"]Just one question. Which universe are we using? Because the SF universe and the DB universe are different universes.[/quote]
Yes,because the DBZ fighters would've sensed the power levels of the Street Fighters.(Actually, if the street fighters are located on the same planet earth the warriors would've meet in the WORLD MARTIAL ARTS TOURNAMENT. Joe, is that really spam or the reality that this long over going debate may have meet it's end.

[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"][quote:post_uid0="Roll"]Just one question. Which universe are we using? Because the SF universe and the DB universe are different universes.[/quote]
Yes,because the DBZ fighters would've sensed the power levels of the Street Fighters.(Actually, if the street fighters are located on the same planet earth the warriors would've meet in the WORLD MARTIAL ARTS TOURNAMENT. Joe, is that really spam or the reality that this long over going debate may have meet it's end.[/quote]
Actually, if you read back a few pages, you'd see that we eliminated all personality traits.

Plus, we're talking about IF THEY DID fight. No one cares that they actually would NEVER fight, we just want to see that IF they fought, who would win.

lock this topic