This alone is enough to express part of love..

kaze yo watashi wa tachimukau
yukou kurushimi no umi e to
kizuna kono mune ni kizande
kudakeru nami wa hatenaku tomo...

[i:post_uid6][color=gold:post_uid6]Oh wind, I will stand and face you!
I will go to the sea of anguish,
though the bonds cut my chest,
and the crushing waves are endless...[/i:post_uid6][/color:post_uid6]

I THINK LOVE is the thing in world
:buttrock:

Man I use the charlie avatar,and clouds..I love both of them.... :( the avatars....

....No comment.

[quote:post_uid0="Roll"]This alone is enough to express part of love..

kaze yo watashi wa tachimukau
yukou kurushimi no umi e to
kizuna kono mune ni kizande
kudakeru nami wa hatenaku tomo...

Oh wind, I will stand and face you!
I will go to the sea of anguish,
though the bonds cut my chest,
and the crushing waves are endless...[/quote]
that's beautiful........in what languauge is it written first?

We are talking about good vs. evil, not when you love and hate something.


ahhh... forget it. I've been through a lot of hatred throughout my life. I'm always depressed. I walked up and down my living room for an hour today staring at the floor.... I have nothing more to say....

I want the memories to die.


TarkanX....


Maybe we are more of the same than I thought.I've had problems my whole life man.I have hatred inside so strong it feels like it's going to consume me,but I also can't sleep as soon as I get into my bed.I remeber to many bad younger childhood memories.My mother that never showed me love,and my father was never home then and he still is never home.My sister has a mental condition.As you can see when I was growing up I had no guidance.I got into gang fights.

I never fought little kids,not because I thought it was wrong,but because some kids bullied me,an a friend of mine when I was younger.The gang of boys had a Pitbull with them they thought it would be funny to let it go on us.What they had forgoten to do was feed it.I was 9 at the time and my friend was 8.We saw the gang of boys on the corner,but we continued walking.

One of the boys told me to give them my shoes.I walked faster then they let there pit loose on my friend and me.Sad as this may sound my friend wasn't lucky the Pit attacked him first.I tried to pull the pit's grip away from his neck,but the dog's grip was to frim,and strong....so I ran I ran like a croward.

I hide in an alley.when the help came the boy was died,and the boys that were there ran away somewhere.I was scaried to tell because I thought the boys would do the same to me.I cried everday tell has "wake" then I cried more.I realized if I had been stronger I could of saved him...some how.

I've never had grandparents they died before I ever meet them.My cousins....are to far away,and I think there is some kind of mind disease in my family.

Well anyway after 2 years later when I was 11 we moved away from that place...To NC.I restarted my life here,but we lived in the country for about 3 years.That was the most peaceful years of my life I was angry,but safe.Later we moved into the city...the peace ended.Each day now I have to dail with punks outside my house always trying to pick a fight with everyone.


Really I'm just a teenager that is trying to make up for his bad idolence years.If i could make a wish I would want a family that has love I've never heard my mom say she loved me.I've never played catch with my dad.I only have a hand full of TRUE friends.

Really thats why I stay up so late those memories haunt me like a bad odor.

TarkanX do you ever smile besides when your fighting...really thats the only time I'm smiling than besides being with girls.
When I fight I fuse my anger,rage,an my feelings of being alone into my fist.It suits me.

When I use love I don't really know what it means,but I want to know.So when I'm haunted by my past I write in my journal my hardaches,an all my sorrows.

Perhaps you should also write in a journal TarkanX.
I may not sleep completely free minded of my past,but I can sleep,and regroup for the next day.You know I made a promise to my self I would become stronger....not physically ,but mentally as well.

Remeber TarkanX there are others that have been through #### as well.Maybe you should start a thread about "childhood darmas". You may get an even bigger response from that than any DBZ vs SF topic...

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]TarkanX: we don't understand each other !

you're more talking about GOODNESS VS EVILNESS... the thing is, we are talking about what YOU LOVE to do and what you HATE to do ! that's very different things !

- YOU LOVE shooting people (when you love it, i don't think you can hate at the same time)
- but you hate when you're getting cough by cops as you cannot shoot anymore.

same as you in real life TarkanX..
YOU LOVE that game you cannot hate it more or you wouldn't come in anymore !
but you hate ##### that post stupid sh|t !

what else can i say...
LOVE can be even if you do something bad...
do you think a robber will rob a bank if he hates doing so ?
it's like asking you to HATE your mom and dad when you actually love them !

no, you're more talking about GOOD and EVIL ! that is not the point of this thread !

anyway, everything is a balance. 50/50, you do something then something else come up ! ACTION/REACTION

you hate school (ACTION)
you love when it's over (REACTION)

it all come to this as its YOU the PERSON who decide which will be stronger, but everytime you make one stronger, the second become stronger somewhere else ![/quote]
if your argument is correct then couldnt i simply say this...

a person who loves to shoot people is an expression of love right Karma?

but the family members of the person he shot will hate him.

so his love for shooting only brings about more hatred correct?

Ludacris: It's Japanese/Romaji, and I have plenty more phrases where that came from. I just don't know if that's a good thing...

Here's something that I meant to put in my last post, or the one before.

Boku-tachi wa samayoi nagara ikite yuku doko made mo.
Furikaeru michi wo tozashi aruite'ku eien ni.

We live our lives wandering to the ends of the earth.
Closing off the way back, we walk on for eternity.

too bad he won,t see this !

DarkPiccolo: like i said, love don't BRING hatred !

it's 50/50, meaning that the love of that person is so great that the hatred must be great to compensate on it ! so it resurface at the people who are victims and their family.

when you give a certain amount of love into a thing, that exact same amount of hates gets on other things ! but the fact is, you cannot hate and love the very same object or event. you love or you hate, you cannot do both.

[quote:post_uid0="TarkanX"]We are talking about good vs. evil, not when you love and hate something.


ahhh... forget it. I've been through a lot of hatred throughout my life. I'm always depressed. I walked up and down my living room for an hour today staring at the floor.... I have nothing more to say....[/quote]
ahahhahahahahaha

darkness and hatred will rule the world and make us stronger.... ahahahahahhaa, lol

I've had too much hate to type, yeah I only met my grandpa once, and talked to him on the phone twice, before he died, but that was only one grandparent.

I hardly smile, unless Im watching a comedy, and as of february, I stopped smiling when I fight(haven't played against someone in 2 months).

I could tell you my life story, but on AIM.

oh yes, hatred ownz jooo......

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]oh yes, hatred ownz jooo......[/quote]
Is there a past history you would like to talk about... seems that you haven't had a good one.

talk about what?

hatred is me, me is hatred

like old onslaught used to say,

evil is what i am

TarkanX I will gladliy listen to your life man.First I would need you to PM me your AIM name or email.

Yes,anger can make you not want to type anything.I started to punch keys when I was typing.

I love to hate
i love to love
They're both essential in some way or another

You couldn't just look in my profile... heh.... anyways it's CenturionMario

I was making a long post I think I just missed you by a bit I'll catch you next time your online TarkanX.

[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"]I'm still on the side of hatred.[/quote]
you're only on the side of hatred? ........hum.......weird.....

I'm on both side.......cuz love and hatred balances out everything........

More on Good vs. Evil (This is also a rant, so..):

Good & Evil
Life is full of contradictions, perhaps too full. However, good and evil is the truest contradiction on the planet and any view that does not allow for an opposing view is far too simplistic.That is why, in truth, while everyone is both good and evil, everyone is the icon of pure good.

While society makes general rules about good and evil, the end battle always comes down to the wars inside each individual's mind. There is where the terms good and evil are truly defined and it is there that everyone is the icon of their own good.

Everyone sees themselves as the ideal good. If they say that they don't they have humbled themselves, an act that in their mind makes them a better person, and in truth, more of the representative of pure good.

Everyone has laid their own ideas of what represents good and evil in their own mind, and then they follow it in accordance to their laws for good. If they slip up they absolve themselves of it in some way and continue in their mind untarnished and a better person for it.

Even those who claim to represent pure evil are in truth pure good, because in their own mind, good and evil have been reversed and they represent the "true good" and everyone else lives in a state of self-deception.

Since, in the end, it's only our own opinion of ourselves that matters, we are all pure good. Few dare to think of themselves as remotely evil and those who do think themselves better for it. There is nothing wrong with this, if we ceased to see ourselves as good we would all go truly insane. The first earmark of an unhealthy mind is that they think themselves evil and are torn up by it.

So if we all do a little soul-searching, we find that we all think of ourselves as good, those who agree with us share that status and those who oppose are evil. It's very simple, very true and most importantly, very contradictory.

If you don't like it, don't ponder the question...

[quote:post_uid0="Roll"]Even those who claim to represent pure evil are in truth pure good, because in their own mind, good and evil have been reversed and they represent the "true good"[/quote]
yep it's true........she's right......it's like the terrorists, they're doing this for their god......they think it's good........they think their god told them to act like this.......but they don't realise that it's wrong.......

I gotta admit, Roll, you are wise beyond your years......

Ludacris you know I'm only a week an a year older than Roll,but she is clearly more wise than me. ???

an interesting article, good for school work.

but, in this world, there is no such thing as "good" or "evil", there's only a thing that's called "opinion"

the most widely viewed "opinion" is the basis on which we determine "good" and "evil"

but this is not what is logically true.

to determine what's "good" and "evil", you must compare it to "truth" and anything else.

"good" is the truth and "evil" is anything but the truth.

this can be compared to everyday situations, go and think a little. and there is no such thing as, half true or partly true.

example:

Kid A calls Kid B stupid cause Kid B got poor marks on report card. Then Teacher comes and punishes Kid A.

In this case, Kid A is good and the Teacher is evil.

why?

Because Kid A is telling the truth and the Teacher is punishing Kid A with reasoning that is NOT the absolute truth.

Nice try, Vegetam, but at the point your going to, I've nuetralized that argument with this one following sentence:

Since, in the end, it's only our own opinion of ourselves that matters, we are all pure good.

i've already established that, right now i'm trying to come up with a common basic foundation on which everyone can refer to when dealing with this matter.

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]hatred is me, me is hatred



evil is what i am[/quote]
im sorry but noone is purely evil. its exactly what roll said
they do bad but to them its good.

noone can be evil right from the start.
think about though hitler was not evil when he was born. but thru his life he developed into the man who did evil things.

and you cannot always be pure hatred because you would spread your hate upon everything and if everything is gone because of that, then what is there to hate, furthermore what would you be if you were "hatred".
I think therefore I am.
I "Hate" therefore I am.

you keep thinkin that way dude.....

Roll why did you end a debate...why anyone could've ended something this simple,but...just not this early. ???

Simple, Sbyrd. When a debate over something as contradictional as this happens, it needs to be ended ASAP.

It was getting fun even though the answer was very clear in most of our minds, but It was fun for me to see the ideals of everyone in this XMVSSF online forum community..... oh well. :buttrock: