Lol wait they will see dominican when they do all that ass kissin then he doesnt pick them..They will see...Lmfao all I would have to do is make a diff name try out for restavegas vip clan and he would let me in...Cause I got skillz..And sponser me like he does all his clan memebers lol..And he would never know..As masterki said this contest will die pretty soon...People are starting not to join...Pretty soon he will be hosting a contest and no one will join anymore except n00bs that just joined either the month before or the month of the contest..And people stop trying to take bobs poop saying nuff said lmfao....Sdfu

WELL SEEING THAT NO ONE REALLY ISNT POSTING IN THIS TOPIC... WE SHOULD TALK ABOUT SOMETHING ELSE..

*NEW SUBJECT*

What do you think will happen in August 7 in this game? Any new updates?

hi my sfo name is Beyonce2004. if i don't win its ok but it would be real cool to be a VIP. i can't send a pic saying i want to be sponcered cause i have a cast on my foot but i'll just write this and hope this will be good enough.(thats a bummer)

1. i am the best person that can play the game without being a vip but i think the next step would be to be a vip so i can be undafeatable

my email is bajangirl91@msn.com
thanks for ur time
ur girl B

[quote:post_uid0="coolkilla"]No one has respect for restavega you all are just taking up for him because you wanna be a vip...Start kissing his ass like all the contestants do that join his contest...Lmfao even the mods and admins dont like restavega that should tell you something..And when you think about it this isnt a good thing he is doing because pretty soon everyone will be vip then what??There are too many vips now its supposed to be a Very Important Person will now about 40-50% of sfo fighters are Vip's...[/quote]
So everyone will be a VIP, so what!? Isn't it worth all the money being donated? PLUS there is more people joining every day and the ratio of VIPs to Norms will always remain the same.

And about mods and admins disrespecting me... that should not be the reason they don't clean this place up of all the flame. I always thought a true leader looks beyond love or hate and does what is fair and just... aka his job. but that's a different subject that doesn't concern you. Why do you care whether or not the mods hate me... BETTER YET, why do you keep bringing it up? You are acting like a broken juke box.

It's such a remarkable coincidence how those I disqualify and ban always have this hatred towards my contest all of the sudden... And thankyou for bringing up an interesting point DJ about Dominican.

If Dominican hates the fact that I sponsored him, why doesn't he just go to TMyApp and ask to have his perks removed? I am sure TMyApp would ablige him. That would be the manly thing to do of Dominicankid. All he does is complain about how he won and hates it, he hates being a VIP because of me. Meanwhile, he isn't going to TMyApp to get something done. He's a hypocrit and your a hypocrit.

You come down on these people saying they suck up to me, trying to make them feel ashamed of themselves... MEANWHILE you behaved just like them when you were a contestant and also, if anyone is sucking up, your sucking up to the mods right now.

No contestant is sucking up. When someone sticks up for me they are immediately sucking up? I see... so whenever someone takes favor of me in a argument they are immediately stupid suck ups... No one can have another view of whats right and wrong. If you don't hate Restavega and take his side you are a suck up. "You back up Restavega, your a suck up kiss ass!". Give me a break.

You think people are sucking up to me because I can sponsor them? Look at what everyone is saying in my defense... they are not just ranting. They are posting facts in my defense. The ranting is being done by you "Rest haters".

And all that crap about me wanting to become a mod, that never even occurred to me. And to be so dishonorable as to lie saying I said this contest would make me a mod shows you have no class, coolkilla. That shows thats whats going on within all of your heads. "MOD MOD MOD I WANT TO BE A MOD, HE MUST WANT TO BE A MOD TOO! GOTTA STOP HIM!" stfuwith this mod bs.

Let me ask you a question... how am I trying to be a mod? I don't kiss up to them. As a matter of fact, I don't like most of them. And at the time prior to this current contest I considered myself cool with Nferno. He didn't clean my contest because he doesn't like it?!! That says it all... give me a break for once.

I'm not rich, far from it actually. I work and I put money down for SFO. Call me Santa Claus if you will. I don't go to topics flaming anyone, your the guys (coolkilla, masterki, dominican, Ken-Po, etc) running in here with torches flaming the place up.

I never said I was rich, you guys made that up. I never said I wanted to be a mod, you guys made that up. You guys all want to take me down in the most desperate pathetic fashion possible. Half the things you say are lies and the other halfs are just the twisted truths.

The facts are... you guys don't like me. So don't like me and leave me alone. Simple as that. The day I come in your topic (or sponsorship contest... :laugh: thats a laugh) is the day I will be as low as you are.

And whats that crap about me wanting respect? I haven't gotten respect from any of you ungrateful snakes but I'm still doing this which goes to show I don't give a damn about your respect.

I wasn't liked to begin with... so I ran off and made this contest to have only those who accepted my generousity come here so I knew all was well. but no... you guys have to come and run here as well and prove your really a bunch of low lives.

Yeah dominican I think that this August 7th we will get many surprises new moves added to characters stuff like that...Have you noticed that everytime since cyc|ops was added we have gotten 2 characters 1 coming before the one that was supposed to come...cyc|ops and sent came together
sp

LMFAO! Restavega I saw you in the chat telling someone that I shouldve took a screen shot how the fhk can you actually sit there and lie you were telling some kid you were gonna have mod powers and youd bann him so sdfudont even try and lie....Nowback to my conversation...Yeah dominican TMyApp always surprises us..

[quote:post_uid0="coolkilla"]LMFAO! Restavega I saw you in the chat telling someone that I shouldve took a screen shot how the fhk can you actually sit there and lie you were telling some kid you were gonna have mod powers and youd bann him so sdfudont even try and lie....Nowback to my conversation...Yeah dominican TMyApp always surprises us..[/quote]
notice "some kid"... you are pathetic. Now that I see your lying, I know I've won.

Everyone... ignore these people. If anyone makes any reference to them from here on in (even if your embarrassing them which has already been done) you will be disqualified from my contest. Let them prove they have no social lives outside of their monitor.

[quote:post_uid0="Restavega"][quote:post_uid0="coolkilla"]LMFAO! Restavega I saw you in the chat telling someone that I shouldve took a screen shot how the fhk can you actually sit there and lie you were telling some kid you were gonna have mod powers and youd bann him so sdfudont even try and lie....Nowback to my conversation...Yeah dominican TMyApp always surprises us..[/quote]
notice "some kid"... you are pathetic. Now that I see your lying, I know I've won.

Everyone... ignore these people. If anyone makes any reference to them from here on in (even if your embarrassing them which has already been done) you will be disqualified from my contest. Let them prove they have no social lives outside of their monitor.[/quote]
Hmmm no social lifes because we are posting about how you screwed people over and how you try to burn ur contestants when they say something about thereselves...No I dont dislike ur contest really its you I dont like because the way you treat people...Your disrespectful toward n00bs that try and join your contest you expect for all vets to join this contest..And your a n00b your damn self and dont have the right to call anyone else a n00b..

[quote:post_uid0="Restavega"]Welcome all to my famous contest. If your unfamiliar with my famous contest, all you have to do is simply post here and your registered for a chance to become a VIP.

First, as always, we must congratulate the past winners who joined my contest wanting to be sponsored and won...

alamgir
Kester-
PSYCHO (STL)
TitanX59 (Darkmagic X)
ZeroEna
dominicankid098 (Lancer PX)
Maori Legend
Ludacris (Darkludacris)
darksamuria
Yami08
Virtual Fighter
LAB MONSTER
AK47HARDHITTER (

[quote:post_uid0="coolkilla"][quote:post_uid0="Restavega"][quote:post_uid0="coolkilla"]LMFAO! Restavega I saw you in the chat telling someone that I shouldve took a screen shot how the fhk can you actually sit there and lie you were telling some kid you were gonna have mod powers and youd bann him so sdfudont even try and lie....Nowback to my conversation...Yeah dominican TMyApp always surprises us..[/quote]
notice "some kid"... you are pathetic. Now that I see your lying, I know I've won.

Everyone... ignore these people. If anyone makes any reference to them from here on in (even if your embarrassing them which has already been done) you will be disqualified from my contest. Let them prove they have no social lives outside of their monitor.[/quote]
Hmmm no social lifes because we are posting about how you screwed people over and how you try to burn ur contestants when they say something about thereselves...No I dont dislike ur contest really its you I dont like because the way you treat people...Your disrespectful toward n00bs that try and join your contest you expect for all vets to join this contest..And your a n00b your damn self and dont have the right to call anyone else a n00b..[/quote]
Yes yes my point exactly... hell he tried to make me feel bad when i didn't help him out or joined his clan. you know what; so many people have asked me to join their clans but i nicely said no to their offers well, because i already am in a clan. the clan leaders and i are still cool .. but then when you ask me, and you already knew i was in a clan probably, and u got pissed when i didnt want to join and then u have all ur clan members flaming me except that one dude who was like you should respect masterki's decision .. seems like you just wanted to use me and when i turned ur offer down, u turned me down.



Edited By MasterKi on Aug. 06 2004 at 00:18

The point that we are trying to get accross is not that we hate you no I dont hate anyone...And I didnt say I dislike you..I just dont like the way you act towards people that join this contest and The newcomers to this game...

[quote:post_uid0="MasterKi"][quote:post_uid0="coolkilla"][quote:post_uid0="Restavega"][quote:post_uid0="coolkilla"]LMFAO! Restavega I saw you in the chat telling someone that I shouldve took a screen shot how the fhk can you actually sit there and lie you were telling some kid you were gonna have mod powers and youd bann him so sdfudont even try and lie....Nowback to my conversation...Yeah dominican TMyApp always surprises us..[/quote]
notice "some kid"... you are pathetic. Now that I see your lying, I know I've won.

Everyone... ignore these people. If anyone makes any reference to them from here on in (even if your embarrassing them which has already been done) you will be disqualified from my contest. Let them prove they have no social lives outside of their monitor.[/quote]
Hmmm no social lifes because we are posting about how you screwed people over and how you try to burn ur contestants when they say something about thereselves...No I dont dislike ur contest really its you I dont like because the way you treat people...Your disrespectful toward n00bs that try and join your contest you expect for all vets to join this contest..And your a n00b your damn self and dont have the right to call anyone else a n00b..[/quote]
Yes yes my point exactly...[/quote]
My contestants know the deal... and I will use you two butt buddies as an example...

Don't like my contest!? Anyone out there not liking my contest?!

Don't join.


It is very very simple.

[quote:post_uid0="coolkilla"]The point that we are trying to get accross is not that we hate you no I dont hate anyone...And I didnt say I dislike you..I just dont like the way you act towards people that join this contest and The newcomers to this game...[/quote]
Why didn't you just come to me personally (in a PM) and share your complaints? I would have given you the benefit of the doubt. but no... you came in here blazing guns. dubya tee eff do you want me to do?

All I can say is this is my contest and you have to respect that. I don't go in topics and flame them up... because I respect them. This is my contest and I am in control. I really thought there would be some common courtesy among us. If you guys didn't like how I am running the show... then, by all means, don't like it and don't come here. but you guys just HAVE TO start beef. And now your telling me your intentions were pure.

Let me lay this down right now...

I FORGIVE ALL OF YOU.

That's right. MasterKi, Ken-Po, CoolKilla, DarkstriderX, Dominicankid098, etc. I personally don't like holding grudges for very long. I'm not asking to be friends, just leave my contest alone and let's part ways. If you wanna talk smack about me... make a topic. Don't bash something that gives money generously to the game we all enjoy.

What have I done so wrong compared to the things I have done so right for you to hate me so?

Either way, your forgiven. F*** all this fighting... I am sick of it.



Edited By Restavega on Aug. 06 2004 at 00:34

RestVega: OH MAN! I have 4 contestants, man its gonna take me at least 2 weeks to tell who the winner is for this one folks :).

I just read this whole thing... and Restavega... you are the man. Your contest is truly a gift to SFO and your right. If people do not like your contest they dont have to join. I see your fair, maybe alittle too sharp and harsh, but fair. You don't mistreat your contests and you don't disrespect the n00bs. I would be suspicious myself if n00bs started popping up everywhere to try and win your contest.

You offered to sponsor me personally... and that ment a lot. I have never seen such blind generosity and probably never will.

.



Edited By MaDPoWer on Aug. 06 2004 at 02:28

You know restavega is making lies like "KenPo and Dominican said they would never post here again". I never said that, you remain of a foul detergent, quote me one time I said that? That's what I thought...you can't. As for you saying in the last contest you spit in our faces, you know Nferno666 rubbed it in your ass reaaaal good, so thats about 10x better then you spitting in our face(which you never did or make me feel like you did). All your doing is lying your ass off dude, and what are you forgiving me for you mutant? It's not like I took away a part of your life or cut off your arms OR EVER! apologized to your pathetic peabrain, so thats another prediction.

You just keep the donations up you mutant but you will NEVER be respected more then a #### who lies and makes predictions which he can't back up. You know they say "don't throw rocks in a house made of glass", obviously this is what your doing and you just keep it up peabrain. Because THE WOLFPACK will always be here to guide the members, whether that be new players or young ones who don't quite understand what type of person to trust and talk to. THE WOLFPACK will always be around to bring scumm like yourself to justice, which can hurt you in the back really good in the longrun.

You say you saw my true demon, did you now? Don't tell me you don't have a darkside to yourself...o wait a minute...YOU'VE PROVED IT ALL ALONG WITH EVERY POST YOU MADE! along with your dumb injust contest which you try to cover up in order to be a moderator.

I can speak my mind whenever I want to, it's what the freedom of speach is all about and guess what! I've learned to abuse it without getting busted! So I really don't know how an antilope like yourself is gonna get rid of 5-7 wofls running in a pack without loosing your mind.

Think about that while you sleep with your imaginary girlfriend.

[quote:post_uid0="Restavega"][quote:post_uid0="coolkilla"]The point that we are trying to get accross is not that we hate you no I dont hate anyone...And I didnt say I dislike you..I just dont like the way you act towards people that join this contest and The newcomers to this game...[/quote]
Why didn't you just come to me personally (in a PM) and share your complaints? I would have given you the benefit of the doubt. but no... you came in here blazing guns. dubya tee eff do you want me to do?

All I can say is this is my contest and you have to respect that. I don't go in topics and flame them up... because I respect them. This is my contest and I am in control. I really thought there would be some common courtesy among us. If you guys didn't like how I am running the show... then, by all means, don't like it and don't come here. but you guys just HAVE TO start beef. And now your telling me your intentions were pure.

Let me lay this down right now...

I FORGIVE ALL OF YOU.

That's right. MasterKi, Ken-Po, CoolKilla, DarkstriderX, Dominicankid098, etc. I personally don't like holding grudges for very long. I'm not asking to be friends, just leave my contest alone and let's part ways. If you wanna talk smack about me... make a topic. Don't bash something that gives money generously to the game we all enjoy.

What have I done so wrong compared to the things I have done so right for you to hate me so?

Either way, your forgiven. F*** all this fighting... I am sick of it.[/quote]
You forgive us all for hating you? Like I said I do not hate nor dislike you I dont hate anyone I just dont like the way you act towards people...I have no problem with your contest besides the fact that too many people are VIP's whats the point in having all those Very important people..=\ Doesnt make them that Important to me now...You forgive me for trying to kill your contest? Well I really dont know if thats bullpoop or not..So whatever...When you apologize to those contestants for what you did in that last contest thats when I WILL FORGIVE YOU..Because that was just unfair...You want *solid members* to join your contest then change your act and maybe some *solid members* will join it...These *solid members* dont like the way you run this contest so they dont bother to join..Some people it would take them only 1 post here and youd sponser them as soon as you read there post saying that they want to be sponserd..Im thinking people like SBYRD5 marve|911 etc...but on the other hand some of those *solid members* just dont want to be sponserd..And just dont want to be a vip period...I dont understand my reason for even trying to win this contest before when I barely play the game..I may get on once in a while so I dont get rusty =/..And I tried not to get rusty but my ken is better then my ryu now..=/ Someone just told me to join this contest to try and win and be sponsered..So I did..=/*RyusInvasioN*Youve said that some people just came to the forum to get sponsered well I guess I proved to you that I am not one of those people... -Nuff said- This will be my last post in contest 13..=\ And I mean my last..If anyone has anything to say to me add me on aim or msn mobsta578 aim and Mastermax233@hotmail.com on msn..Or pm me..

[quote:post_uid0="MaDPoWer"]I just read this whole thing... and Restavega... you are the man. Your contest is truly a gift to SFO and your right. If people do not like your contest they dont have to join. I see your fair, maybe alittle too sharp and harsh, but fair. You don't mistreat your contests and you don't disrespect the n00bs. I would be suspicious myself if n00bs started popping up everywhere to try and win your contest.

You offered to sponsor me personally... and that ment a lot. I have never seen such blind generosity and probably never will.

.[/quote]
good man that madpower good man

I have my money saying Restavega won't respond to any of this flame... not even the sleightest reference. Resta is just cool like that and wouldn't go back on his word.

Obviously he is under alot of stress and wants to get this over with.

iam im again
name in game darkan-shin-ryu
e-mail: marcelinoolejnickarballo@yahoo.es

[quote:post_uid0="MaDPoWer"]I just read this whole thing... and Restavega... you are the man. Your contest is truly a gift to SFO and your right. If people do not like your contest they dont have to join. I see your fair, maybe alittle too sharp and harsh, but fair. You don't mistreat your contests and you don't disrespect the n00bs. I would be suspicious myself if n00bs started popping up everywhere to try and win your contest.

You offered to sponsor me personally... and that ment a lot. I have never seen such blind generosity and probably never will.

.[/quote]
Who said we all wanted to join? Ok yeah, we all signed up at one point or another in this contest but you don't see any ofus joining this time or infact, probably never again. And the part where you said he does not mistreat his contestants aka some of the n00bs, your wrong. I guess you haven't been around to read all of his other contests? He bashes them basically telling your not going to win if you just joined the forums within 2-3 months but yet thats when he joined too.I never even done anything to him and yet online he acts like a complete ass to me. And yeah n00bs are filling up this contest. I haven't seen a *solid member* joining in this contest which comes to show no one really cares and all these n00bs just want the perks and nothing else.

And if you had respect for me Restavega, then you would respect me and my friends. *Blocking* someone is obviously no respect and is such a n00bish action. Not to mention when I didnt want to join your clan; you got all pissed at me. If you would had "respect" for me, you would of said its okay that i understand but noo you were there sitting with your clan members flaming me cause I didn't want to join and telling me to get out.

So if you have "respect" for everyone then quit bein a punk/prick to everyone and being *stressed* you wouldn't believe how many times i've heard that excuse before.

[quote:post_uid0="dominicankid098"] IF YOU PEOPLE WANT TO GET RIPPED OFF IN A CONTEST THEN GO RIGHT AHEAD AND JOIN THIS CONTEST. RESTEVEGA MADE A GUY NAMED AK47HARDHITTER WIN LAST NIGHT AND AK47 JUST SIGNED UP YESTERDAY and WON INSTANTLY. WITHOUT SAYIN A DAMN THING ABOUT HIMSELF.

ak47 didnt even leave any background info or even left a banner for his girlfriend or anything... PEOPLE HAVE BEEN SIGNING UP IN THIS CONTEST OVER AND OVER and they got ripped off yesterday and still are getting ripped off..

AK47 ONLY WON CAUSE HE WAS IN RESTEVGAS CLAN.

So if you wanna kiss restevega's ass just to become vip.. then go right ahead and join.. I PERSONALY THINK ITS WRONG.[/quote]
I know im banned but didnt he say he wasnt going to post in ur contests anymore..LOL

Oh and by the way here's a little something to help change ur mind about me being banned.. ;)

Go VIP power!!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3.../Restavega.jpg



Edited By DarkstriderX on Aug. 06 2004 at 11:55

[quote:post_uid0="coolkilla"]No one has respect for restavega you all are just taking up for him because you wanna be a vip...Start kissing his ass like all the contestants do that join his contest...Lmfao even the mods and admins dont like restavega that should tell you something..And when you think about it this isnt a good thing he is doing because pretty soon everyone will be vip then what??There are too many vips now its supposed to be a Very Important Person will now about 40-50% of sfo fighters are Vip's...[/quote]
i aint kissing no ones ass but it looks like i should back up evreyone in hurr except dominican. its 60% evreyone is a vip i think

Everyone who had just made reference to Dominican, Ken-Po, MasterKi, or coolkilla is disqualified as of now. I already stated I would disqualify you if you did this.

Hey, the less contestants I have the easier it is for me to pick the winner. And if I have no contestants I will happily keep the money for myself and buy some bazooka joes or save it for the next time I go on the train. :laugh: When people don't join that doesn't hurt me, it hurts all of you.

Btw, Darkstriderx, nice banner but not my style.



Edited By Restavega on Aug. 06 2004 at 13:47

the reason why i want 2 be vip b is because of this u know most people always have to use rage factor and i won't and i could help out by putting the hackers in there place and makin sure this game is fun aqnd people fight fare and sqaure yes i know im sounding like a mod but i'lll make mod jump on a case andd help every one out my ingame name is


Venom_sp

[quote:post_uid0="venom-spiderman"]the reason why i want 2 be vip b is because of this u know most people always have to use rage factor and i won't and i could help out by putting the hackers in there place and makin sure this game is fun aqnd people fight fare and sqaure yes i know im sounding like a mod but i'lll make mod jump on a case andd help every one out my ingame name is


Venom sp

[quote:post_uid0="alamgir"][quote:post_uid0="venom-sp

Ok, Im join for the 2nd time my user name is _GENKAI_
e-mail madbomber27@aol.com

Reasons why you should sponsor me...........

1. Im very friendly, I get along with everyone unless your a pompous ass.

2. I want to go behind the scenes of SFO see whats going on.

3. You wont be sorry that you sponsored me.

4. I don't have a credit card, my parents do but they dont think its safe to buy stuff online.

5.Most people look up to VIP's im very helpful. I give ####ies
pointers and stuff like that.............and thats all

Im just goin for the perks,pretty much it, Im not kissing ass or saying how much love/hate some one I want the perks,plain and simple.

Here is an animated gif I did. http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...n/MugenKen.gif http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v339/gauxban/Rose.gif
I stole the flame from Kyo from KoF and Turned Ken into a Genguro.
He is much like the mugen character if you get to play it.



Edited By RedEyedWolfen on Aug. 06 2004 at 15:28

[quote:post_uid0="Restavega"]Everyone who had just made reference to Dominican, Ken-Po, MasterKi, or coolkilla is disqualified as of now. I already stated I would disqualify you if you did this.

Hey, the less contestants I have the easier it is for me to pick the winner. And if I have no contestants I will happily keep the money for myself and buy some bazooka joes or save it for the next time I go on the train. :laugh: When people don't join that doesn't hurt me, it hurts all of you.

Btw, Darkstriderx, nice banner but not my style.[/quote]
Tell me wuts ur style and Ill make it for u..?

I just love the wacky contests.. LOL :biggrin:

What about this one

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...iderX/vega.gif



Edited By DarkstriderX on Aug. 06 2004 at 16:36

[quote:post_uid0="venom-spiderman"][quote:post_uid0="alamgir"][quote:post_uid0="venom-sp

[quote:post_uid0="DarkstriderX"][quote:post_uid0="Restavega"]Everyone who had just made reference to Dominican, Ken-Po, MasterKi, or coolkilla is disqualified as of now. I already stated I would disqualify you if you did this.

Hey, the less contestants I have the easier it is for me to pick the winner. And if I have no contestants I will happily keep the money for myself and buy some bazooka joes or save it for the next time I go on the train. :laugh: When people don't join that doesn't hurt me, it hurts all of you.

Btw, Darkstriderx, nice banner but not my style.[/quote]
Tell me wuts ur style and Ill make it for u..?

It may look like im kissing A** right now.. Well who wouldnt I just love the crazy contests.. LOL :biggrin:[/quote]
i can say all what u want by te way i can join to this contest and you can ,t tranlate this
jodete no puedes participar yo si jajajaja a ver si lo pillas



Edited By gouki2008 on Aug. 06 2004 at 15:55

[color=red:post_uid3]lol reva. still sponsering lossing money eh?[/color:post_uid3]

[quote:post_uid0="Z-z"]lol reva. still sponsering lossing money eh?[/quote]
Z-z wanna be
my panther iam darkan

sorry restavega but my name got terminated for no reason. so my new name is Beyonce4real. sorry about this :(

Lol u think ur the best non vip player, who were u again, arrogance is bliss.

[quote:post_uid0="alamgir"]Lol u think ur the best non vip player, who were u again, arrogance is bliss.[/quote]
.................

i already told u that my account got terminated so i apply to try to get a steady one this time. o yea i don't know y anyone say anything bad bout u ur a alrght guy.XD

sfo name: SSJVegeto3 *old one was Xskillz2003
aim: BlackVegeto333
msn: rohanporter@msn.com *same as email