I still hate the fact that pepole can donate money, when thay have been in this community for 3 days. Thay hardly know anything about the game and just want chars. It is nice that thay donated, but thay donated for the wrong purpose. I also think that the price needs to be raised higher, mabe to about 30 bucks. Pepole like nosoul4ever(when I researched he donated 100 dollors are more.) care about this community alot, I mean a whole lot.

I am not saying that others don't care, but most are in it for the char. I hate it when pepole go around saying "I dontaed 5 bucks I deserve a lot more respect." Why do I hate it? Most of them wouldn't give a rats ass if the game needed money and thay would not get perks for it.

[quote:post_uid0="vx_unicom"]Well..........in that case Everyone will have to earn my RESPECT. Nosoul4Evr and TMyApp have been so helpful to me so they EARN my respect a whole lot more than anyone i have ever seen.......oh so does Bob Marley!!!. :angry:[/quote]
so i earn ur respect now?? :biggrin:

Yea.....my homie!! :D

[quote:post_uid0="abc123test"]I still hate the fact that pepole can donate money, when thay have been in this community for 3 days. Thay hardly know anything about the game and just want chars. It is nice that thay donated, but thay donated for the wrong purpose. I also think that the price needs to be raised higher, mabe to about 30 bucks. Pepole like nosoul4ever(when I researched he donated 100 dollors are more.) care about this community alot, I mean a whole lot.

I am not saying that others don't care, but most are in it for the char. I hate it when pepole go around saying "I dontaed 5 bucks I deserve a lot more respect." Why do I hate it? Most of them wouldn't give a rats ass if the game needed money and thay would not get perks for it.[/quote]
umm the ammount of the donation is up to you...so there is no ned to raise a price for something that is yur own choice if we did that then ppl would think we are doing it for the money

[quote:post_uid0="Bubble1"]vip means. Yes vips neeed more respect.
Very
Important
Person[/quote]
agreed........

[quote:post_uid0="silent-killer"][quote:post_uid0="Bubble1"]vip means. Yes vips neeed more respect.
Very
Important
Person[/quote]
agreed........[/quote]
I totaly disagree, as someone has already said what if the biggest #### in the world came to this fourm? He sighned up to be a V.I.P would you respect him more then some of the loyal members on this fourm?Just because he is a v.i.p, I wouldn't !

There are some members on this fourm who I think very much need to be V.I.P's. Thay have stayed around here helped the fourm and the game heck some even make websites! Those are the ones who need to be respected if thay are v.i.p's are not!

Raiseing the price is just one of the many ways to help, basicly make it so 30 bucks is how much you need to pay to get the perks. Lower ammounts will be donated, still I think that if you donate you deserve to get the perks so scratch out that idea.

I don't know if you all do this or not, but as I said some pepole need to be v.i.p's for helping this comunity out. I see so many pepole who I think deserve the right of a v.i.p spot but ether thay are to young are just don't have a creidit card yet. (I don't think you take any credit cards from Tokyo lol )

So that is my opinion on this matter.



Edited By abc123test on Mar. 09 2004 at 15:42

[quote:post_uid0="abc123test"][quote:post_uid0="silent-killer"][quote:post_uid0="Bubble1"]vip means. Yes vips neeed more respect.
Very
Important
Person[/quote]
agreed........[/quote]
I totaly disagree, as someone has already said what if the biggest #### in th world came to this fourm? He sighned up to be a V.I.P would you respect him more then some of the loyal members on this fourm?Just because he is a v.i.p, I wouldn't I!

There are some members on this fourm who I think very much need to be V.I.P's. Thay have stayed around here helped the fourm and the game heck some even make websites! Those are the ones who need to be respected if thay are v.i.p's are not!

Raiseing the price is just one of the many ways to help, basicly make it so 30 bucks is how much you need to pay to get the perks. Lower ammounts will be donated, still I think that if you donate you deserve to get the perks so scratch out that idea.

I don't know if you all do this or not, but as I said some pepole need to be v.i.p's for helping this comunity out. I see so many pepole who I think deserve the right of a v.i.p spot but ether thay are to young are just don't have a creidit card yet. (I don't think you take any credit cards from Tokyo lol )

So that is my opinion on this matter.[/quote]
exactly...some VIP i consider to be Very Immature Person or along the lines of that...but their are those who are really VIP's in the vip community :biggrin:

[quote:post_uid0="Nferno666"][quote:post_uid0="abc123test"][quote:post_uid0="silent-killer"][quote:post_uid0="Bubble1"]vip means. Yes vips neeed more respect.
Very
Important
Person[/quote]
agreed........[/quote]
I totaly disagree, as someone has already said what if the biggest #### in th world came to this fourm? He sighned up to be a V.I.P would you respect him more then some of the loyal members on this fourm?Just because he is a v.i.p, I wouldn't I!

There are some members on this fourm who I think very much need to be V.I.P's. Thay have stayed around here helped the fourm and the game heck some even make websites! Those are the ones who need to be respected if thay are v.i.p's are not!

Raiseing the price is just one of the many ways to help, basicly make it so 30 bucks is how much you need to pay to get the perks. Lower ammounts will be donated, still I think that if you donate you deserve to get the perks so scratch out that idea.

I don't know if you all do this or not, but as I said some pepole need to be v.i.p's for helping this comunity out. I see so many pepole who I think deserve the right of a v.i.p spot but ether thay are to young are just don't have a creidit card yet. (I don't think you take any credit cards from Tokyo lol )

So that is my opinion on this matter.[/quote]
exactly...some VIP i consider to be Very Immature Person or along the lines of that...but their are those who are really VIP's in the vip community :biggrin:[/quote]
I highly desagree with you...........Cause unlike some VIPs like to have fun, make jokes......it doesnt mean they are immature!!! there is a certain time that EVERYONE is serious and act mature. :angry:

[quote:post_uid0="kester-"]true, there are some vips that are very important people

but, more often then not

vip means (there are some exceptions)
i
want
perks


i am going to donate pretty soon, but when i do i will ask that i dont get any of the vip perks

to show that im not in it for extra characters[/quote]
I ANT VIP BUT BEING A VIP MEMBER IS A SPECIAL THING EVEN BEING A SPONCERED VIP

[quote:post_uid0="Evil-Blanka"][quote:post_uid0="kester-"]true, there are some vips that are very important people

but, more often then not

vip means (there are some exceptions)
i
want
perks


i am going to donate pretty soon, but when i do i will ask that i dont get any of the vip perks

to show that im not in it for extra characters[/quote]
I ANT VIP BUT BEING A VIP MEMBER IS A SPECIAL THING EVEN BEING A SPONCERED VIP[/quote]
if it were up to me i would do away with sponsering...causes to much trouble and brings in annoying VIP's

if it were up to me i would do away with sponsering...causes to much trouble and brings in annoying VIP's[/quote:post_uid8]

so......wat r u tryi'n 2 say here...?! :angry:sponcerd vip's r annoyin..?? :angryfire:



Edited By (ShinKu_Ryu) on Mar. 09 2004 at 19:56

[quote:post_uid0="Nferno666"][quote:post_uid0="Evil-Blanka"][quote:post_uid0="kester-"]true, there are some vips that are very important people

but, more often then not

vip means (there are some exceptions)
i
want
perks


i am going to donate pretty soon, but when i do i will ask that i dont get any of the vip perks

to show that im not in it for extra characters[/quote]
I ANT VIP BUT BEING A VIP MEMBER IS A SPECIAL THING EVEN BEING A SPONCERED VIP[/quote]
if it were up to me i would do away with sponsering...causes to much trouble and brings in annoying VIP's[/quote]
Not all ppl are annoying ...
If your going to sponser someone sponser someone who has repect and its intellengent.
Nferno remember what I told you in the chat servers...

That some vips think that thier vets but they just paid for perks -n- they just joined...So yeah...

Nferno666 is right, sponsering is just way to annoying. Every time I go into a chat someone is going "Will you sponser me?" to a v.i.p! I hate it, there are way to many pepole wanting to be sonser and pepole saying thay will then turning around and getting pissed. Then thay come to this fourm and get all mad make topics and say "Someone said thay would sponcer me, but thay didn't. I think I need to be a v.i.p since someone lied to me." Then we find out that the kid started playing the game 2 days ago.

I think the only other way to be a v.i.p without paying is to earn it! as I said, "make a fan site." Doing something for the community. ect. ect.

For those who say thay are not im immatuer, you think that but take a good ong look at your post once in awile. There are times for jokes and times to get down and be real...

[quote:post_uid0="abc123test"]Nferno666 is right, sponsering is just way to annoying. Every time I go into a chat someone is going "Will you sponser me?" to a v.i.p! I hate it, there are way to many pepole wanting to be sonser and pepole saying thay will then turning around and getting pissed. Then thay come to this fourm and get all mad make topics and say "Someone said thay would sponcer me, but thay didn't. I think I need to be a v.i.p since someone lied to me." Then we find out that the kid started playing the game 2 days ago.

I think the only other way to be a v.i.p without paying is to earn it! as I said, "make a fan site." Doing something for the community. ect. ect.

For those who say thay are not im immatuer, you think that but take a good ong look at your post once in awile. There are times for jokes and times to get down and be real...[/quote]
very well said :biggrin: and i didn't say all sponsered VIP's are annoying..i said the system it'self, it needs to be gone..as in no more sponsering :biggrin:



Edited By Nferno666 on Mar. 09 2004 at 17:00

[quote:post_uid0="vx_unicom"]Yea.....my homie!! :D[/quote]
thanks!
no sponsering?? sounds kind of good! :biggrin:

--and then?? :biggrin:

Here is another reson why I don't think sponsering is right.

Ryu1 gets in a fight with a gut named Ken1. Ryu1 runs a clan and is looking for members, he has alot of mony and wants all his members to be able to use v.i.p perks. To give his clan a advantage, so after the fight he finds out ken 1 is a very skilled member. Ryu 1 says to Ken 1 "Yo, you are good want to join my clan?" Ken1 one says "Nope I wont join #### clans." Ryu 1 says to Ken 1 "If you do join I will sponser you!" Ken 1 says back to Ryu 1 "Shoot, if you do I will join for sure."

Now 1 of these 2 possible thigs can happen.

1.)Ryu1 gets every one in his clan but then decides that he will not sponser them. Thay run to this fourm to tell on him and some way still get sponsered because someone lied to them. When thay find out thy wont become a v.i.p thay flame.

2.)Ryu1 keeps to his deal, but here is what is wrong with that.

1.)He is sonsering for the wrong thing.

2.)He is paying for all of them, thay are not donateing why should thay get the perks? Thay are not heping the community in any way.

So you see what I mean..

^ I agree with you...
But some ppl deserved to be sponserd for helping the SFO community.

@Nferno:Sorry bout that :biggrin:

Oh btw Abc try to fix the text in your banner thier some blue in there :biggrin:



Edited By chicken_wing on Mar. 09 2004 at 20:30

nice example!
i see what u mean! :biggrin:

--and then?? :biggrin:

[quote:post_uid0="chicken wing"]^ I agree with you...
But some ppl deserved to be sponserd for helping the SFO community.

@Nferno:Sorry bout that :biggrin:

Oh btw Abc try to fix the text in your banner thier some blue in there :biggrin:[/quote]
O ya didn't see the blue in there, any way yes there are many members on this fourm who I think have served there time and should be a v.i.p.

Take elena for a example, she has been here for what, as long as I have. The differn'ts between us is that she stayed active and posted, I on the other hand did not... So since almost the start of the game she has been here, to me that is how pepole get respect. She has in my eyes earned the right to be a v.i.p.

Chicken Wing even you do, you may not have been here that long but still. You are makeing pepole banners, helping ####s also helping out a fan web site that takes alot of time.

Though both of these pepole are not v.i.ps......

there are many pepole like this who earned the right to v.i.p but are not, due to not donateing..... To me these pepole are the v.i.ps of this fourm.



Edited By abc123test on Mar. 09 2004 at 20:54

totally agree abc, when i started playin i guess i forgot about the game and quit playin for like a year; thank god that i remembered this site and started playin again!


yeah and abc is also right about those who have stayed the whole time



Edited By kester- on Mar. 09 2004 at 21:12

[quote:post_uid0="chicken_wing"]But some ppl deserved to be sponserd for helping the SFO community.

@Nferno:Sorry bout that :biggrin:[/quote]
SOME but not all...try looking at the sponsered VIP's list..in my opinion 1 out of 10 ppl who are sponsered really deserve it

[quote:post_uid0="chicken_wing"]Yeah thats true I looked at all the members that were sponcerd or is =/...

Ssj-Karma
Digital Fighter
KingRyu
Montalvo
DxRoll
Scorponok

Thats all the ppl I think reallydeserved to be sponserd that are.

*Cough* Yes I checked the whole VIP list*Cough* =/...[/quote]
Yes, very few as you can see that deserved to be sponsered and did. The thing is that pepole come in here with money and start sponcering epole who thay hardly know. Then thay run around the fourm bragging and saying that thay are better then other members. I think there are very few v.i.p's who deserve it. Then thay did donate, but thay don't get my respect why you may ask? That is not that much to do donate 5 bucks and thats it. A web site are something like that needs to start being given some attintion. The pepole who take all that time to do stuff like that should be the v.i.p's


Also I hat the cocky v.i.p's, lol I don't know why but thay get on my nerves so bad. One way we will find out who paid for perks or for donation is if v.i.ps don't get something reguler members do. Though I dought that will happen, but if it did I bet some v.i.p's would be very pissed off.

[quote:post_uid0="abc123test"][quote:post_uid0="chicken wing"]Yeah thats true I looked at all the members that were sponcerd or is =/...

Ssj-Karma
Digital Fighter
KingRyu
Montalvo
DxRoll
Scorponok

Thats all the ppl I think reallydeserved to be sponserd that are.

*Cough* Yes I checked the whole VIP list*Cough* =/...[/quote]
Yes, very few as you can see that deserved to be sponsered and did. The thing is that pepole come in here with money and start sponcering epole who thay hardly know. Then thay run around the fourm bragging and saying that thay are better then other members. I think there are very few v.i.p's who deserve it. Then thay did donate, but thay don't get my respect why you may ask? That is not that much to do donate 5 bucks and thats it. A web site are something like that needs to start being given some attintion. The pepole who take all that time to do stuff like that should be the v.i.p's


Also I hat the cocky v.i.p's, lol I don't know why but thay get on my nerves so bad. One way we will find out who paid for perks or for donation is if v.i.ps don't get something reguler members do. Though I dought that will happen, but if it did I bet some v.i.p's would be very pissed off.[/quote]
Yea......few did deserve to be sponsered VIPs....coughs unlike pip99....Coughs....Coughs!!!!

dont be mudslinging now :)



Edited By kester- on Mar. 10 2004 at 17:54

I yhink dat some ppl derserve 2 be vips.....ex:If i was able 2 donate money to the community, not just 2 b a Vip i would donate even $50.00...........But i cant because I got no credit card and ma parents wont do anytin' 4 me dat has 2 do with games........I know dat some sponserd VIP's r only in 4 perks but u cant say dat they should b no sponsering.....if you think dat its annoying then u dont have 2 sponser... ???

Every 1 has diffrent thoughts.....But :angryfire:



Edited By (ShinKu_Ryu) on Mar. 10 2004 at 20:12

[quote:post_uid0="(ShinKu_Ryu)"]I yhink dat some ppl derserve 2 be vips.....ex:If i was able 2 donate money to the community, not just 2 b a Vip i would donate even $50.00...........But i cant because I got no credit card and ma parents wont do anytin' 4 me dat has 2 do with games........I know dat some sponserd VIP's r only in 4 perks but u cant say dat they should b no sponsering.....if you think dat its annoying then u dont have 2 sponser... ???

Every 1 has diffrent thoughts.....But :angryfire:[/quote]
Next time you post, use some spelling also don't use slang!!!!!!

[quote:post_uid0="abc123test"][quote:post_uid0="chicken wing"]Yeah thats true I looked at all the members that were sponcerd or is =/...

Ssj-Karma
Digital Fighter
KingRyu
Montalvo
DxRoll
Scorponok

Thats all the ppl I think reallydeserved to be sponserd that are.

*Cough* Yes I checked the whole VIP list*Cough* =/...[/quote]
Yes, very few as you can see that deserved to be sponsered and did. The thing is that pepole come in here with money and start sponcering epole who thay hardly know. Then thay run around the fourm bragging and saying that thay are better then other members. I think there are very few v.i.p's who deserve it. Then thay did donate, but thay don't get my respect why you may ask? That is not that much to do donate 5 bucks and thats it. A web site are something like that needs to start being given some attintion. The pepole who take all that time to do stuff like that should be the v.i.p's


Also I hat the cocky v.i.p's, lol I don't know why but thay get on my nerves so bad. One way we will find out who paid for perks or for donation is if v.i.ps don't get something reguler members do. Though I dought that will happen, but if it did I bet some v.i.p's would be very pissed off.[/quote]
see...that's what i don't like...ppl who come out of no where and sponser ppl for the hell of it..that why if it were up to me i would do away with sponsering :biggrin:

True. Being a VIP means.. you've got the ability to sacrifice a part of your hard earned money (or whichever method you got the money.. *cough* :biggrin: ) for the game. Heaven still knows you want to help the game.. but being a VIP is not just wanting to help the game financially.. but actually doing it. :biggrin:
But I must say, that there are some ppl who don't actually have a means of donating.. but would be better off being more than just ordinary members.. that's why the whole idea of sponsoring came into play... but the whole topic is lost as well as the respect/trust the VIPs should have. :biggrin:

i agree with u blanka09.......i think!! ???

[quote:post_uid0="blanka09"]True. Being a VIP means.. you've got the ability to sacrifice a part of your hard earned money (or whichever method you got the money.. *cough* :biggrin: ) for the game. Heaven still knows you want to help the game.. but being a VIP is not just wanting to help the game financially.. but actually doing it. :biggrin:
But I must say, that there are some ppl who don't actually have a means of donating.. but would be better off being more than just ordinary members.. that's why the whole idea of sponsoring came into play... but the whole topic is lost as well as the respect/trust the VIPs should have. :biggrin:[/quote]
Five bucks is not alot of cash, I mean working at minimum wage you can make that much in 60 mind.! I think that the one way to solve this problume is to let pepole donate, but not get v.i.p perks...

Thugh then few would donate, that shows how much the v.i.p perks are involved. There needs to be a higher rank then them, something were you can't just donate, but do something for the community. As I said there are about 30 or more pepole who I think need to be v.i.ps thay have earned it. They are held back by one thing?? Donateing, it is just like every thing else in this community. There are pepole who deserve it and pepole who don't.

For a example, I think that some of the nwo mods who got picked do not deserve it much. I am not saying any names, but some don't even post! One thing this community needs to start focasing on is getting this v.i.p thing straightened out. As you can see from the post of this one topic there are many who agree with me that it needs to be fixed!!!!!

True.. I'm not saying $5.00 is hard to come by.. but how many ppl are willing to part with it?? :biggrin:

Anywho, I like the point you made about the VIP rank being straightened out. Well, I'm guessing TMyApp would have done this.. if the some of them weren't so stupid! I mean... put urself in his shoes for once. How would you feel? He gave them some info that weren't to be released to the community.. and they blabbed and gave out pws and all the likes. :biggrin:
I'm not the one to complain in his place...since he has his own agenda.. but it'll take a long hard time of thinking before he reconsiders vamping the VIP community or revising it in a way that'll make it worth it's name... VIP :biggrin:

And remember one fact.. all mods/admins apart from lefty and TMyApp started from the position of VIPs. :biggrin:

[quote:post_uid0="blanka09"]True.. I'm not saying $5.00 is hard to come by.. but how many ppl are willing to part with it?? :biggrin:

Anywho, I like the point you made about the VIP rank being straightened out. Well, I'm guessing TMyApp would have done this.. if the some of them weren't so stupid! I mean... put urself in his shoes for once. How would you feel? He gave them some info that weren't to be released to the community.. and they blabbed and gave out pws and all the likes. :biggrin:
I'm not the one to complain in his place...since he has his own agenda.. but it'll take a long hard time of thinking before he reconsiders vamping the VIP community or revising it in a way that'll make it worth it's name... VIP :biggrin:

And remember one fact.. all mods/admins apart from lefty and TMyApp started from the position of VIPs. :biggrin:[/quote]
I agree with u blanka09....

[quote:post_uid0="blanka09"]And remember one fact.. all mods/admins apart from lefty and TMyApp started from the position of VIPs. :biggrin:[/quote]
What dose being a v.i.p have any thing to do with being a mod? Nothing at all not one thing!! If a #### was to donate 200 bucks he would not be a mod. Why? He is a #### if you notice thay have "all" done something for this community. They mostly all have a fan site, mostly all of them are good posters and can make there point across. So as you can see that being a v.i.p has nothing to do with becomeing a mod.

Nowback to the suject, as you said the v.i.ps gave out passwords to there accounts. Also that thay told every one about what the next update was to be. That is were you need to take all the respected and trusted members, put them into one group. The ones who have not earnd tmy's trust in another. If you get what I mean.

[quote:post_uid0="abc123test"][quote:post_uid0="blanka09"]And remember one fact.. all mods/admins apart from lefty and TMyApp started from the position of VIPs. :biggrin:[/quote]
What dose being a v.i.p have any thing to do with being a mod? Nothing at all not one thing!! If a #### was to donate 200 bucks he would not be a mod. Why? He is a #### if you notice thay have "all" done something for this community. They mostly all have a fan site, mostly all of them are good posters and can make there point across. So as you can see that being a v.i.p has nothing to do with becomeing a mod.

Nowback to the suject, as you said the v.i.ps gave out passwords to there accounts. Also that thay told every one about what the next update was to be. That is were you need to take all the respected and trusted members, put them into one group. The ones who have not earnd tmy's trust in another. If you get what I mean.[/quote]
TmyApp sure doesnt have time for that!VIP is 1 group and will always probadly be 1 group..good just have to suffer for the bad :biggrin:

.........im getting what ur saying..I think ???



Edited By (ShinKu_Ryu) on Mar. 11 2004 at 19:08

[quote:post_uid0="KidKrazyShit"]No one "deserves" to be a VIP. First, how do you define how someone deserves to be one? TMyApp has set no guidelines for us to follow in this matter. No one deserves to be a VIP period. It doesn't work like that.

You just donate your $5+, and boom, instant VIP status. The person who donated doesn't deserve to be a VIP. He simply is one b/c he donated.

Like Nferno, I voted to do away with the whole SVIP system completely. But alas, tmy did not agree.

But there is a method to his madness.[/quote]
Exactly who deserves to be VIP then?!?!?? And why are some people getting of topic!!!

yo.....any one deafeted practice with sentinel.., well there is this guy u get 2 fight last.His name was.....Sentinel prime.damn that guy is awsome...shouldn't VIP's have got him..?!? ???

And kidcrazyshit...., plz try 2 stay with the topic :angryfire:

[quote:post_uid0="(ShinKu Ryu)"]yo.....any one deafeted practice with sentinel.., well there is this guy u get 2 fight last.His name was.....Sentinel prime.damn that guy is awsome...shouldn't VIP's have got him..?!? ???

And kidcrazyshit...., plz try 2 stay with the topic :angryfire:[/quote]
Stay with the topic =/....
You shouldnt be talking most of your posts are OFF topic,
Also you should get your act together man before you get banned for spamming for doing something stupid...

And how kks is off topic...
If you didnt even bother to read the other pages *which you didnt* you would of read that most of it was who deserverd to be sponserd and if TMyApp should take the svip sytem away...


Btw,this is not a flame Im giving Shinku a tip :lookaround: