If I had the power, I could do alot more around here =-/

I don't know how this thread got off topic... but it is NOT a thread to promote TMyApp getting more mods. If anyone even cared to read the title, and possibly the actual message that followed after it, it says NOTHING discussing hiring new mods. In fact, it's just this kind of behavior it's preaching against.

This whole concept of "please TMy, add more mods", or even "please, give me mod powers. I'll do a good job", has been tried and refuted time and again (for dam good reasons too). TMyApp has made it plenty clear in the past and future... that he doesn't just hand out modships at anyone who looks like they might be good at it.

If you want to debate about this modship thing... here's a VERY lenghty topic with many good arguments/refrences on each side....

There may have been another one going about the same time.. but I'm too lazy/impatient too look it up... :biggrin:

..anyways, put your posts about this sort of subject in your own topics (which won't last long @ all since TMyApp, leftyfb, and myself to some degree... are here at most the time).

2000warrior/warmor: well said :biggrin: ... and if u want "more power" ... email me... :biggrin:

Nantuko Joe: it is not JUST about trust... everyone who is a mod did SOMETHING IMPROTANT/BIG for the community (they didn't become mods because of their posts on the forum)...

and to all those who say i should send a "warning" 1st... well.. see.. the thing with that is:

1: it takes the same amount of time to send a msg as it does to ban someone

2: once a warning is sent.. i have to follow up on it to make sure the person not only recieved it (people love to give out fake email addresses when they sign up... and they DONT' seem to read the pm's that are sent to them) but that they FOLLOW the warning/rules.. and ... well... common... are people who break the rules really worth ALL that ?? :biggrin:

3: even if someone is banned... to get un-banned, all they have to do is email me, and wait a few days/weeks until i get to their email...

there u have it.... :biggrin:

tmyapp has just owned joo all!!!

yeah i dont think quass, zing or lordcyris have time to see this forum i think u should make some changes.. tmy

[quote:post_uid0="TMyApp"]well... common... are people who break the rules really worth ALL that ?? :biggrin:[/quote]
Hehehehe :buttrock:

zing and quass helped expand this big community, but i don't really know much about that lordcyris guy

i havent seen lordcyris post in a while, i think u should pic like 1 or 2 new mods not for the forum but for the game cuz u should see all the bitchin goin on in there one guy starts bitchin then another then someonelse and then everyone starts

[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"]I guess the community is getting over crowded I suppose such tactics are needed now,but perhaps if we could just get all the n e w b i e s in the same area,and have a very strict talk with them things could change...maybe.

Like a rule of this kind=

You may only make one topic each week at maxium.

Any different subjects that you find interesting should be PM'ed in that active week.

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That could even be understood by a new person.

I think the reason ##### are so annoying is because there ignorance of the area around them often gives them the influence to act a fool.

You must understand.The goal of an ingorant new person is to fit in,and to become superior in the same day.Even though you know there goal welcome that person heartily,and with respect that would reduce the number of Flaming hits per week.

Also, advice that person not to make topics their first weeks in this community.Instead, instruct them to read the topics first,and to give the best senseable reply to there ability.Tell them to edit incorrect spelling,and grammar in posting tell the day they have it at a perfection.

Also if your will to help a noob starts to fade advice that person to another vet.This system could be the solution to this noob problem.The program will be called "Vet Appretiance Training"=V.A.T.

Actually ignore my post I just remebered that I'm a noob. ???[/quote]
Umm yea whatever.

yo i havnt seen dat lordgrobycs guy i seen him on the game everytime i meet him i always get banned lol true but i havnt seen him in the forum for long time and in game for bout a month or so.i think well between this guys should be new mods

nakato joe,dan hibiki,and nosoul4eva they really do solve the problems that go around this game

dont forget karma :biggrin: and i dont kno about natuko ...

[quote:post_uid0="KidKrazyShit"]Is anyone even listening to tmy?

He has already said adding more mods will not solve the problem...and is not an option. So why are you saying ppl that you think would be good mods?[/quote]
u are right kks more mods. wont matter its up to the people to control themselves

4 mods are usually enough to handle a forum so we have like what.......5 mods(if we don't count Tmy App and Leftyfb) so it's enough......they're doing their thang and it's cool.......

it's gonna get boring with all the ###### posting and stuff like that. For example my friend QUIET_KILLER is posting like he's a ###### and he's gonna be a super advanced member. Thats not good. lol j/k Quiet. :shocked:

harsh,but its for the best.....

Yeah, and you can see how well THAT is working nowadays...

I am still trying to figure out

Why does Quiet Killer

Type like this?

He types just like Weezer

On the other forums

It's very odd

you gotta ask him

about this.

No offense, but I disagree with TMy. If we had some more mods around here that were on the forum constantly and are able to handle this problem, the problem would be nonexistant. I know that TMy is too overwhelmed with working on the game to help out, and 2000warrior isn't here that much. But what about ZIng? Quass? Lordcyris? The only mod that really moderates this site is leftyfb. If we had more ppl around here to moderate, it will be a better place for us to post in

okay, i think what everyone means is:

this forum doesn't need too many mods, it just needs more mods that are active

I believe that rules should be much more strict than they are right now. People get away with too many stupid things that would not be allowed in other forums. Make a 3 strike rule, or a minor - major offense scale, or something. Adding more mods would be good, but you would have to make sure that they can be trusted. Nosoul, Nantuko, KKS, and others would be good choices in my opinion, but it is not up to me.

...I only post in places where I feel that I won't be flamed. O_o! So don't delete me due to post count.

Personally, this has become a spam hole, I see too many topics about Character Votes, and who could kick who's butt in a deathmatch. And the flaming, ye god, the flaming is way too much. Hopefully you'll fix that so I'll post more and not feel like I'll be flamed to the ground for just giving my opponion.

~Squall

.. the problem is (and always has been) with the users themselves...

since the average age of the XvsSF player is around 12, 90% of the people who post on the forum flame/spam...

unless the users change their ways... the only other "solution" is to ban 90% of the active forum members we have now.. which would basically leave us with myself, and the rest of the mods using this board for our own personal "chat" :biggrin:

hehehehe.. thats good.. :biggrin: im not 12

An ultimatum? Wow... you sure know your vocabulary, Nantuko. But, tell me, how will that help? It'll only get people who break it penalized (and the only penalty I know of is banning...). If we're trying to change behavior, we can't just do that. Sure being strict is a good way to stop things just for a while. Although, think of all the new people who'll just come in without reading the rules. There is no way to make them read it, and there is certainly no way we can stop them from making posts, as, like everyone else, they have their own free will. We just have to be patient, and allow Lefty's statement to come to life.

Nantuko Joe... quit taking everything so litteral. TMyApp is trying to keep himself from going insane and exploding on all you (like leftyfb did just recently) by "attempting" to stay in good humor. It's posts like the one above (and NOT your common n00bish posting) that tend to through him over the edge.

First... saying that the average age level is around 12 is just a medaphor for what he sees as the average maturity level in most of the current posts/topics. You arguing against that just makes it look like you're trying to find anything/everything to argue about.

Second... you've made it obviously clear in your previous posts that that you want more mods to take care of this rising problems in the forum (or as leftyfb put it, "pandimonioum"). I'm wondering why you're saying

[quote:post_uid0="Nantuko Joe"]I'd have to say that the average age of ppl here is around 15 or 16. If kids at that level of maturity can't control their spamming and flaming, then the world is coming to an end.[/quote]

Now, according to that, you're saying that 15-16 year olds, the "majority" of the people at this forum, are mature, and in that case, would allude to the fact that there is no problem at all. Which you've clearly said is not the case...

So in that instance, there are only 2 conclusions that you can arrive at:

1. The maturity level of these 15-16 year olds is NOT what you say it is, and they are the ones causing all these crappy posts.

2. They arn't 15-16 year olds, and are closer to the age of 12. And that's the reason they're so immature.

And last point... leftyfb and TMyApp ARE taking the initiative to put an end to this, and get these lazy mods (like me) up off our asses and "get to work". Don't worry... you're really overexagerating the situation and what must be done to stop it... All will be solved.. in time.

No, they can also do what drove physicals_r_scary over the edge: reset his post count. The majority of the nOOb population on this forum spam only to get their post count up. If they break the rules and continue to spam, their post count will get lowered or reset, and they'll either start over again or get the picture and stop spamming

The majority of the members of this forum aren't the problem. Most of the ppl who are here are fine, but it's prolly (i'm gonna guess) about 1/4 or 1/5 of the total members here that are the violators of the rules and are massive spammers/nOObish behavior. It's kind of like that saying "punish everyone for the behavior of A PRECIOUS FEW". The "Precious Few" in this case are the kids that are under the age of 15/16 (age-wise, not maturity-wise). People like ajtimbs, Juggernaut, and stjames are only around the age of 12, and they're the three biggest spammers in here (the main ppl I'm talking about). But I AM correct in saying that the majority of ALL users of this forum are older, and more mature, and the ones taht are causing the problem are physically younger and less mature

We don't need anymore mods on this forum.. The thing we need to do is police these yougins. All that happens around here is rambunctious pre-pubescent brats running around.. I say we all stop all this flameing bullpoop. Where does it get us? NOWHERE!! If I wanted to see this level of stupidity, then I'd go to a mental institution.


Heres my logic.. TMyApp and Leftyfb work thier asses off.. And all a "select few" do is bitch.. I'm surprised TMy has let those few stick around. It clarely states in the rules.. "NO BITCHING".. Is that so hard to comprehend? I think not..

TMy and lefty take out of thier own pockets to make this game run.. You people only say thank you, when you thought the game was gonna die out. So you mean to tell me that you cry only when it's gonna die? Why not just appreciate the game while it's here....

Like I said before we don't need anymore mods... If people didn't go in a thread and say "nice going retard you just spammed".. I admit even I'm guilty of this. But I deduce people only do that to raise thier post count.. And I'm sincere when I say I have only done that to help people.. I could care less about my post count..

And another issue.. I'm quite frankly sick and tired, of people calling 2k warrior a kiss ass... He defends TMy yes... And he has done this countless times... Even before he became a mod.. Stop trashing the guy.. He's one of the most helpful people in this community. He has brought us more informative details.. Than I can remember...


I'm going to finish this post up by saying.. If you ignore the "new people" then they will do 1 of 2 things... 1 being they will change thier behavior... 2 They will just up and leave.. Think about it if you provoke them... Your only going to make things worse.... I've spoken my piece.. nuff said...
:buttrock:

plan for improvement

tmyapp: never come to this forum unless for important reasons such as learning about bugs and discussing updates. his precious time should be spent on the game and not small problems like forum moderating.

leftyb: come to the forum occasionally to check up on everything, but mostly converses with tmyapp regarding game and helps tmyapp.

quass/zing79: i have no idea why tmyapp keeps these two mdos around, they do not do anything and i don't believe they should continue to be mods. they are too busy with vgmfusion and do not have the time for this forum.

lordcyris: needs to come to the forum more often and moderate more, i can understand if he has a life, but it couldn't hurt to come to this forum and moderate once a week or somethin.

2000warrior/warmor: both needs to come to the forum a little more often, especially warmor. they should go to the non-xmvssf a little more often and moderate more there.

now to conclude my analysis of this situation, i would suggest tmyapp get rid of zing79 and quass, as they seem to no longer hold interest in moderating this forum. then tmyapp should add 1 or 2 more mods to help warmor and 2000warrior.

so basically what i mean in the end once again is:

we need more active mods, we should get rid of the mods that aren't active enough *cough*Quass/zing79*cough*

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]quass/zing79: i have no idea why tmyapp keeps these two mdos around, they do not do anything and i don't believe they should continue to be mods. they are too busy with vgmfusion and do not have the time for this forum.[/quote]
For once I agree with princevegetam. Quass and Zing are too busy with VGM, and have not been here in a LONG TIME. If I were TMy, I would replace them with two other responsible individuals for the position of Forum Moderator

Quote 2000Warrior:
Did you guys not read that, or did you choose to ignore it? Either way, adding more mods to the forum will not help much at all. It just gives us more mods.

read my entire post first. 2000warrior's post was not direct at me or my intended idea. my intended idea is much different than what he is addressing in his previous post.

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]so basically what i mean in the end once again is:

we need more active mods, we should get rid of the mods that aren't active enough *cough*Quass/zing79*cough*[/quote]
Ou, wow. I see something I was refering too.

Roll: Lol... maybe one day they'll start listening to me...

princevegetam: Well, actually I was directing my posts to comments that are EXACTLY like that one. Your whole idea is to get rid of the guys you don't see posting on the forum much. Why? Because you really don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Let me enlighten you on the subject...

- A little while ago, Quass and Zing79 were planning to host the "other, better" downloadable version at vgmfusion. I have not been aware of the cancellation of this, so I assume they're still planning to do it (eventually).

- Lordcyris has a family, a job, and he's busy as hell. He drops in every now and then and does what he can, but he DOES try to help the community to the best of limited time. (Remember SOF, or even that msg at the bottom of TIB?)

- Warmor... I don't know what's going on with him. Supposedly he's "working" on his comics... either that or he's just a lazy bastard :biggrin:

- 2000warrior: Still waiting to regain ftp acess to Senshuk so he can review the SET, get to work on "updating" the present tournaments section, releasing that "new" feature in Senshuk whenever the next DWX Chronicle is release (or something along those lines), as well as make an Onslaught bio (one day)... and still comes by the forum on a semi-frequent basis.

TMyApp/leftyfb: You KNOW what they're doing.

What I'm trying to say here is... ALL the mods do something outside of the game that "helps out" with the community besides just moderating the forum.

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Everyone else on this whole subject of mods:

Why is it such a difficult concept to grasp that the answer to the forum problem is NOT more mods. I know a lot say "we just need more active mods," but bare with me and look at the past mods for a moment...

- ewalk: First mod, he got it when he was hosting RDB (Ryu's Drunken Brawl), back in late Aug-early Oct. He was easily one of the most active and mature members of the forum. But then guess what happened? He got bored with moderating... and it became more work then fun. So he just quit comming.

- Lordcyris: Got it right after he won Necro2k1's tournament. Another very active member of the forum, and easily respected by all the members. But (I believe) his computer broke, and even after he got it fixed, he was rarely seen on the forum (except for the occasional weeks where mods/vets "try" to make returns). It happens to everyone... you get tired of the "n00bism" and it becomes more work then anything.

- Zing79: He got his early December, after hosting the acclaimed TOC I, with the promise of TOC II, and probabaly had told TMyApp about it by then. And for a month or so... it worked great. He was ever the active mod, and cleaned up the forum. And then he must have gotten tired of the n00bism as all mods do... and just decided to "move on" to vgmfusion.

- Quass: Not sure exactly when Quass became a mod... I think it was April-May. But anyways, he was well on his way to vgmfusion at the time, and only "actively" moderated for about a week after that.

- Warmor: I think Warmor became a mod in June... right around Project Z. But what happened to him? Not really sure, but notice that his activity dropped shortly after he became a mod?

- 2000warrior: I know when this guy became a mod... :biggrin: Some time in August-September. And, he'd been an active poster for months... and was becoming fairly respected at it too. But being a mod took its toll on even him, and like all his predecessors, began having a "more busy" schedule, and just not wanting to deal with the n00bism of the forum after only about a month.

I know some of you will still think "oh, that'll never happen to me", but it will. I never thought I'd get bored of this forum... but you know what? It happens to everybody.

The answer to this is NOT just replacing old mods with new, "fresh" mods, it's getting these old guys off their lazy asses and back onto the forum.

And I would urge furthur discussion on this to be made in a SEPERATE topic. I don't want to start deleting your replys but it could happen if everyone keeps jumping on TMy and lefty's backs about this.

if the mods are all working on something regarding the community, that still doesn't give them the okay to let this forum rot to death! this forum would be a lot better and some mods would be a lot less stressed if the moderating work was more balanced.


and don't attempt to enlighten ME with those facts, i've already known about all of them. but none of those facts can be used as an excuse for leaving this forum to rot and die. what would this game be if the forum was dying?

[color=blue:post_uid3]Alright I thought this topic.
Was made by leftyfb for a reason.
To let people know that he has gotten tired.
Of all the same remade topic's.
The double triple posting and spamige.
That was going on.
The flaming,the name calling.
So how I wonder did this.
Go into a topic about Mod's.
As well like 2000warrior said
"If you would urge furthur discussion on this to be made in a SEPERATE topic"
Did you read that Joe and Vegetam :biggrin:[/color:post_uid3]
[quote:post_uid3]but it could happen if everyone keeps jumping on TMy and lefty's backs about this.[/quote:post_uid3]

spam,what a dumb thing......

The reason Zing/Quass are still mods is maybe oh I don't know... Maybe they give TMy space for the game... :plain: