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SSJKarma 12-03-2003 06:34 PM

1 - can play old PS-1 games ? who the hell would buy a ps2 just to play old PSOne games ? seriously did is far from being an arguments !

2 - controllers wise... sorry to disappoint you, but its all a matter of GAMES not consoles, if a game is less playable on a consoles its not the console owners problem ! its the game companies problem !

3 - SUBSTANCE, belonging to ps2 only, let me laught, GC,XBOX, and PC got it as well ! and guess what... its way betterly made for xbox and gc then it is for ps2 !

4 - more game son PS2 anyway... well duh, the PS2 came out a year and a half before the other two consoles mister i know everything !

5 - better software wise, not accurate, xbox and gc has better softwares, if a game is bad, don't brag about the console, brag about the game creators !

and you say you're no #### !
i cannot agree more with you ont he fact that gaming isn't all about power of the machine that runs it. but seriously, you can't have a game be avery good by just having TEXTS. i played a lot of them, many had great stories, but the lack of any graphcis sure was a very big let down !

same happens here, a game cannot live without a good story, as much as it cannot live without having great graphics ! seriously you cannot say a console is better caus eof their games. its true that games makes 80% of what a console is. but you can't place the blame on the console makers if the developpers who made the games decided to make the worst game ever !

seriously, all you're arguments here aren't facts, they are opinions thus are irrelevant in a debate like this one !


Scorponok:
let me laugh, you would buy an GeForce FX series of card to play video games... guess what... GeForce4 Ti4200 easily bench over the FX series ! that has been proven, the only good thing that is on the fx series is the number of textures to be kept in memory because of its 256megs !

basically the system yoiu told is ok, but seriously isn't the best for gamers !
or should i say fanatic gamers !

johnny5 12-03-2003 08:59 PM

the xbox is better for 3d games and ps2 is better for 2d games

Scorponok 12-04-2003 05:52 AM

Go to www.alienware.com
Products
Gaming systems
Intel based (Area-51)
And make a computer...
Then recommend it to me ;)

Shinatsu 12-10-2003 04:19 PM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]1 - can play old PS-1 games ? who the hell would buy a ps2 just to play old PSOne games ? seriously did is far from being an arguments !

2 - controllers wise... sorry to disappoint you, but its all a matter of GAMES not consoles, if a game is less playable on a consoles its not the console owners problem ! its the game companies problem !

3 - SUBSTANCE, belonging to ps2 only, let me laught, GC,XBOX, and PC got it as well ! and guess what... its way betterly made for xbox and gc then it is for ps2 !

4 - more game son PS2 anyway... well duh, the PS2 came out a year and a half before the other two consoles mister i know everything !

and you say you're no #### !
i cannot agree more with you ont he fact that gaming isn't all about power of the machine that runs it. but seriously, you can't have a game be avery good by just having TEXTS. i played a lot of them, many had great stories, but the lack of any graphcis sure was a very big let down ![/quote]
1) I would buy a ps2 console for old ps games. I still play a lot of them.

2) Don't hide from the fact that you are playing with a dam boulder and I am playing with my perfectly designed controller.

3) For substance, which system had better controls to go with for the skating part X-box or ps2. I thought so. ps2.

4) Man, you obviously are not reading a lot lately, too crammed in the x-box. Here's my question, If this mighty x-box is so superior, why is ps2 outselling x-box console and software wise, hmm Mr. Hardware? Don't give me no "it came out earlier than it" crap. hehehe I want a to hear this.


:angry:

SSJKarma 12-10-2003 08:58 PM

do you have any facts that the PS2 is sold even more ?
for all i know yes it did came out a year before. but seriously, the sells are calculated by their first week-end ont he market !

1 - you still play PS1 games but you don't own a PSOne at all ? wow, i do play ps1 games but i don't know why i would buy a ps2 just for that, for the reason that i do have a psone at home ! so seriously if you bought that for that stupid reason then you are awefully insane !

2 - it sno boulder, for all i know, the big fat controller, doesn't come in anymore, the new and improved one does ! its the same size of a ps2 controller and its way more handy and button are way betterly placed then the old one which makes that problem history ! and like i say, i can just buy a controller changer and plug my psone controller in it and i'm on !

3 - mgs2 substance, you play that only for the stupid skateboard, men, live your life a little, the new SNAKE TAILS are fliping BETTER then anything they add done with your little stupid skateboard thing !

4 - you're a moron if you are sold SONY all they do is marketting and nothing else, never giving people what they want ! example: you many time did you wait before having your stupid online play ? a year or so ? for all i know th exbox has always given things they say the month or so after they talked about it, at least we don't wait for things like sony does !

seriously you can't say PS2 owns because they sell more, its way better to have an xbox trhen having a ps2 for one simple reason !

the long run !
better hardware means better chances of having so great games later that the ps2 will run out before the other consoles in the market ! which means the console will die sooner then the others, but don't worry, sony has already happenned to take the chances of saying, the PS3 will come out soon, whichmeans nothing more then 6 years from now on !

who cares if they sell less...
oh and i must say one thing...
JAPAN / EUROPE and ASIA DENY the XBOX because t is microsoft, and that is a fact, even before it came out, the japan, the developpers and many stores, were telling of a blue screen of death during play on xbox, were talking about how microsoft is for windows, how hard it will be to develop on XBOX. so basically everyone turned it down before it came out, now, so many changed side again and came back, many just never even tryed and are making the xbox being th eworst of them all just because its the supposedly all EVIL corporation that made it !

that you can't deny, it is said on all web site that are gaming !
if you had that on PS2 , it surely wouldn't sell that much either ! but thing is. XBOX rules. PS2 has been outclassed, you gotta admit it one day ! and you'll see what i'm saying happen. the pos2 will run out before the other consoles !

** edit **
www.ps2home.co.uk/specifications of xbox.htm
can't place underscore sdo you have to add them where there are spaces !



Edited By SSJKarma on Dec. 11 2003 at 00:09

Ken-Po 12-10-2003 11:08 PM

First I'd like to point out that it takes an average human brain more time to read one post SSJKARMA makes then to read 2 forums with regular posts. Dude you seriously need to cut down on all those paragraphs. Anyways,1. PS2 is better because you can game online for FREE. Xbox costs, I don't know how much but I know it costs money and people who dont have/ can't get a credit card can't play xbox 2.PS2 is better because of its unique and simple to use controllers. 3. PS2 is better because it remains an original of the playstation, and as soon as Microsoft heard about it they decided to make this so called XBOX because they knew Computer gaming would go down gradually since the PS2 would have online games. 4.MiCRAPsoft made their system more powerfull in hardware, and added 1 more feature AFTER they heard about the PS2. God knows what the specs would be if they hadn't heard about sony's gaming console. 5. This goes directly to Karma: "PS2 FOREVER! ALL HATAS CAN SUCK SATANS DICK!"
How about them apples ;)
Few more things to Karma. 1.You should really stop thinking that your smarter then everybody else just because you write 2 page ESSAYS on a forum instead of a regular post. 2. Noone wants to tell you this but you really ARE a pain in the ass when it comes to an argument, you always think your smarter then everybody else. DUDE YOUR NOT ! People just ignore it and let you go thinking that you're more inteligent because they know your gonna start writing a whole book on this forum. Everybody is unique in their own ways, so is the xbox and so is the PS2. Xbox has things that are better then PS2, and the PS2 has things that are better then the XBOX. So don't degrade the PS2 so much because your precious xbox looks like a bathing tub with 2 tentacles. Have you seen the damn thing? ITS GIANT! The PS2 you can easily store it.
So there, reply with a galileo book of physics just like I know you will. Go back to microsoft :laughlong:



Edited By Ken-Po on Dec. 11 2003 at 00:24

SSJKarma 12-11-2003 01:47 PM

1 - you don't know poop ! XBOX cost only the XBOX LIVE and if you already have your internet connection then you are ok and you can play otherwise you'll have payment to do to have your internet connection !

2 - you seem to be the kind that says sony rocks whatever they do, including faking making consoles and actually promising things that do not even come out at the right time ! that is stupid !

3 - you make microsoft looks like poop !
but must i remember you that microsoft been doing the XBOX way before the PS2 came out ! the actual fact is... SONY rushed the ps2 which was gonna come out only a year later, but since they learned of the GAMECUBE and XBOX they decided to get a head start and rush the console out a year before it should have been ! the why you didn't have any internet playability and the why the PS2 had so much bugs not solved !

4 - take your facts at the right place dude, at least i'm partial with everyone, i'm not taking anyones down just because i hate the company like many of you haters that say the console sucks cause you dislikes the company itself !

5 - i will not post anymore here as you #### is the only one still talking and as you will never be anything else then a stupid fliping bastard that can't even say a thing for himself because all he wants is to sucks SONY'S DICK !

now, have the worst day ever kid !
i'm outta here !

max123well 12-11-2003 02:37 PM

Let me Break it down ta ya real quick X-box is best cause the rich gfx and if youdont like the controller for xbox go out and spend some cash and get a mad catz i love the xbox contrillers. i use one when i play my pc games, and since GTA 3 and gtavc are out for xbox the online versions of the game are comiung in march or april but i dont really want it . cause iu have the muyltiplayer mod for the pc version. so i can play in a whole city with 32 other people who can either flip u up during a mission so that u fai or form a gang and kill u on sight, compete in street races, or just help each other out during a mission thats all the games about sex drugs killing and cash thats wat sets it apart from the others, now in true crime streets of la u play as a cop who as in GTA u can jack cars kill people and perform various tasks but its is basically a driving fighting and shooter at the same time but the driving part is basically a simulation but it gets kind of repetitive most of the time..... so basically xbox runs way faster than ps2 cold ever move and Xbox EVo2 comes out in 2006 its gonna be running at 1700mhz with 2 video cards which will revolutionize gaming history and when ps3 comes out it will only have 733mhz isnt that sad and halo is gonna be on ps2 summer of 2004 cantr wait to see howbad it plays and marve| vs capcom 3 is gonna blow the roof off 2d gaming and revolutionize the way u play fighting games .. with amindblowing 162 characters including characters like dante from the famed devil may cry series with the hidden inclusion of the snk franchise in it will be around 200+ characters and will be an xbox Exclusive but id prevfer to play it with a ps2 conterooler but who cares???? and including Enter the matrix 2 AKA: the matrix returns will feature a 2 player coop mode with vs fighting and the slow motion in the game takes the way bullet time was used to the next level it will look so real on the xbox that uu could swear u could do it right at home.. and half-life 2 is going staraight to xbox 3 or 4 months after release..cause ps2 or gamecube cant stand the beautiful gfx that hl2 has to offer... there was a state ment that alienware couldnt even run hl2 with the amazing visual effects and gfx contained with a 320x640 resolution. and on the other hand looks like the getaway 2 is gonna be a xbox exclusive and yes u play in Ney york city this time as frank hammond his son stolen again and Charlie jolson wasnt killed in the Boat accident hes still alive and rolling up blunts like always.. and the next GTA will vbe an exclusive to xbox only cause rockstart sees that gta was made for the xbox not ps2 word has that gta 3 and vc might find its way to GC.... thats all i should tell u guys dont wanna ruin the suprises for next year :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

ledmonkey 12-11-2003 02:50 PM

*sigh* Hey, I'm a playstation lover but I belive X-box is a better built machine.....just because it is better I still go with ps2.....I dunno why...maybe its just when I got my first playstation in 1997...I decieded to stick wit sony! X-box has a good reason to be better to.....Microsoft spent more time so to speak on it......I think sony made the mistake of rushing the ps2.....as for sony dying off....not yet....Who knows things could change when the Ps3s/X-box2s come out....no one can predict that.....and please....lets try to be civilized here....and not start a flame war :p

Elena 12-11-2003 03:18 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Ken-Po"]First I'd like to point out that it takes an average human brain more time to read one post SSJKARMA makes then to read 2 forums with regular posts. Dude you seriously need to cut down on all those paragraphs.

Few more things to Karma. 1.You should really stop thinking that your smarter then everybody else just because you write 2 page ESSAYS on a forum instead of a regular post. 2. Noone wants to tell you this but you really ARE a pain in the ass when it comes to an argument, you always think your smarter then everybody else. DUDE YOUR NOT ! People just ignore it and let you go thinking that you're more inteligent because they know your gonna start writing a whole book on this forum. Everybody is unique in their own ways, so is the xbox and so is the PS2. Xbox has things that are better then PS2, and the PS2 has things that are better then the XBOX. So don't degrade the PS2 so much because your precious xbox looks like a bathing tub with 2 tentacles. Have you seen the damn thing? ITS GIANT! The PS2 you can easily store it.
So there, reply with a galileo book of physics just like I know you will. Go back to microsoft <!--emo&:laughlong:[/quote]
Ken Po:
Actually, if you think about Karma doesn't type a lot it is just a lot of small paragraphs instead of 2 long paragraphs such as urself.

Karma is actually doing pretty good. All his ideas are not all jammed together. Therefore making it easier to read.

And if it really is too much to read just skim over it.

Karma:
Althought i don't like what he said about you...yes sometimes you do think you are smarter them some ppl and yes sometimes in that specific topic you are smarter, but there is no reason to come in the topic and try and close it down with your overflowing facts. You know karma sometimes it's just fun to debate. And sadly to say sometimes i don't respond to ur topics because i know you will write a whole long.

Karma, I have nothing against you i just advise you to try and put all ur ideas in a small summarys.

Btw X BOX 4evr. :buttrock:

SuperSonicX 12-11-2003 03:31 PM

Yeesh..alot to read..i agree wit Elena..alot dat stuff i already know about..it would be easier on da eyes if youjust got straight to da point..but yea very good points..indeed!

Ken-Po: Ever heard of a Period?? USE THEM!

max123well 12-11-2003 04:09 PM

I know many thing about games 3 years from now u can ask me and i will tell u but then u will get mad that u havce to wait a long time hahahah :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

Ken-Po 12-11-2003 05:26 PM

Karma you stupid idiot I never said the flipin xbox is worst then ps2. And you don't have any facts about all the bullshlt you just said. How the flipdo you know xbox started earlier then ps2? Yea thats what i thought, you don't. And don't call me a bastard you ignorant stupida55 mofo. Your brainwashed by all the forums you go to, take a break man. Walk away from the forum junkie life. Atleast do some fighting in SFO. AND YES YOU DO THINK YOUR SMARTER THEN EVERYONE AND THAT IS A FACT. Your whole life is a forum. Do you have a girlfriend? Do you have a job? Or do mommy and daddy pay for your good night milk. Listen don't talk to me anymore, never again. Your a stupid pig I don't want to get banned over from this great community. If I met you in real life you wouldn't talk so tough anymore and THAT IS A FACT. And you callin me a kid? Im 18 how old are you? I have a grilfriend and live on my own. What do you do? I bet you got an internet girlfriend to cyber with. Stupid idiot don't ever refer to me again. :laughlong:

The idiot that wrote down "KenPo ever heard of a period?"
Answer: Put on your damn glasses you blind idiot and you'll see there are periods after every sentence.

To Elena: It's normal that you defend Karma I understand, you've known him longer and everything and thats cool. What I meant by his posts is you have to scroll down about 2 pages to see dubya tee eff he wrote down. I write alot too but it doeasnt turn out in 2 pages, it turns out in a quarter page.



Edited By Ken-Po on Dec. 11 2003 at 18:32

Elena 12-11-2003 05:40 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Ken-Po"]Karma you stupid idiot I never said the flipin xbox is worst then ps2. And you don't have any facts about all the bullshlt you just said. How the flipdo you know xbox started earlier then ps2? Yea thats what i thought, you don't. And don't call me a bastard you ignorant stupida55 mofo. Your brainwashed by all the forums you go to, take a break man. Walk away from the forum junkie life. Atleast do some fighting in SFO. AND YES YOU DO THINK YOUR SMARTER THEN EVERYONE AND THAT IS A FACT. Your whole life is a forum. Do you have a girlfriend? Do you have a job? Or do mommy and daddy pay for your good night milk. Listen don't talk to me anymore, never again. Your a stupid pig I don't want to get banned over from this great community. If I met you in real life you wouldn't talk so tough anymore and THAT IS A FACT. And you callin me a kid? Im 18 how old are you? I have a grilfriend and live on my own. What do you do? I bet you got an internet girlfriend to cyber with. Stupid idiot don't ever refer to me again. :laughlong:

The idiot that wrote down "KenPo ever heard of a period?"
Answer: Put on your damn glasses you blind idiot and you'll see there are periods after every sentence.

To Elena: It's normal that you defend Karma I understand, you've known him longer and everything and thats cool. What I meant by his posts is you have to scroll down about 2 pages to see dubya tee eff he wrote down. I write alot too but it doeasnt turn out in 2 pages, it turns out in a quarter page.[/quote]
Look, this is a dang forum. What is up with everyone hating each other. If you wanna go blow off some steam go the gym and punch a punching bag don't freakin' insult ppl. One day you might just insult the wrong person.

Ken Po:
If you don't wanna get banned you shouldn't of posted what you posted it was just mean. If karma likes to stay on a forum then leave him the freak alone. I know you were stating ur opinion and Karma got carried away. It's how Karma is. Ken Po just drop it and get back to topic.

Ken-Po 12-11-2003 09:11 PM

Elena: So what your saying is, its not nice for me to say that stuff to karma but its ok for him to call me a bastard and wish me the worst day ever?

SSJKarma 12-12-2003 12:28 AM

ELENA: i like having debates that last a very long time, because i'm oftenly out of arguments when its a tie, but you gonna admit this... its hard debating with some noobs who only has one fliping console in mind and thinks that whatever you'll say the other consoles are just bullpoop !

and no, i am open to facts, when he told me the xbox wasn't sold that much compared to PS2 i didn't had any answer to that so i came on the net and tryed to found evidences of that either to proove him wrong or to proove he was right ! when i got my answer to this, i answered him yes the xbox isn't sold as much, but if SONY had the same ammount of bullpoopters that bullpoop the xbox without even playing it, sony would have troubles selling too.

KEN-PO, i blasted you in one post, you blasted me in 5 !
what's wrong with what i just said kid ?
at least me, i debate with facts, unlike you who thinks opinions is what matters !

unlike you, i would go buy all 3 systems if i had the choice. because i can't choose between the games are not on all consoles. but if you look at this right now, games aren't what is making the consoles be what they are, what they offer hardware wise is ! games are for developpers, you know 3rd party developpers, developpers that have nothing to do with microsoft at all. they are the one developping, they are th eone making the console either go over its limit or make the console be the worst ever !

conclusion for me, games cannot be entered, if they do, then all 3 consoles are worth buying ! otherwise, the xbox wins it all !

Ken-Po 12-12-2003 10:03 AM

Ok Im gonn try and break it down to you without calling you names and swearing. Check it out:
So the Xbox is better hardware wise then the PS2. Ok thats cool, but the PS2 is better in some ways then the Xbox, like its user friendly and easy to store console. The Xbox's graphics are not that much better then the PS2's. Maybe it renders 10 more polygons per second then the PS2 and thats why you see some of those little "cracks" and squares in a PS2 game. But have you played NFS: Underground? Why is it named the best racer of the year easyli, and I'm quoting PS2 Magazine on this and other developers. But this isn't about the game it's about the console. Ok, why did'nt anybody say the Xbox version of the game is better then PS2? Because they are no different. There is maybe 20 games out there that look better on the Xbox then the PS2, but so doeas the xbox have its flaws in some games where a PS2 game looks better on it then on Xbox. BTW I didn't flame you in 5 posts, I flamed you in one post and thats the one before elena's post. The others where a joke which you obviously can't take.
EXMPL: "Karma writes more then 20 users on a regular forum."
Thats a joke thats not an insult. I didn't call you a bastard or wished you the worst day ever in those posts. I called you a stupid idiotic pig after you called me a bastard. By the way, you say I have nothing but opinions, all you do is call me a n00b that has 1 console and is stuck on it. Here check this out.
Consoles owned: Dreamcast, Gamecube, PSONE, PS2
^^^^thats not one console is it? no it isn't which makes you look stupid by saying I'm a n00b who is stuck on one console.
Games owned: marve| vs Capcom, Street fighter III: Third Strike, NFS: underground, Street Fighter EX 3 and much more games dude, I couldnt even name them all in one post.
So there Mr.Opinion your wrong.

shorty-player 12-12-2003 10:08 AM

x-box cuz he has a memory bould in it so you dont have to buy a mem card and there are more fighting games :D

SonicDX 12-12-2003 11:10 AM

[quote:post_uid0="Elena"][quote:post_uid0="Ken-Po"]First I'd like to point out that it takes an average human brain more time to read one post SSJKARMA makes then to read 2 forums with regular posts. Dude you seriously need to cut down on all those paragraphs.

Few more things to Karma. 1.You should really stop thinking that your smarter then everybody else just because you write 2 page ESSAYS on a forum instead of a regular post. 2. Noone wants to tell you this but you really ARE a pain in the ass when it comes to an argument, you always think your smarter then everybody else. DUDE YOUR NOT ! People just ignore it and let you go thinking that you're more inteligent because they know your gonna start writing a whole book on this forum. Everybody is unique in their own ways, so is the xbox and so is the PS2. Xbox has things that are better then PS2, and the PS2 has things that are better then the XBOX. So don't degrade the PS2 so much because your precious xbox looks like a bathing tub with 2 tentacles. Have you seen the damn thing? ITS GIANT! The PS2 you can easily store it.
So there, reply with a galileo book of physics just like I know you will. Go back to microsoft <!--emo&:laughlong:[/quote]
Ken Po:
Actually, if you think about Karma doesn't type a lot it is just a lot of small paragraphs instead of 2 long paragraphs such as urself.

Karma is actually doing pretty good. All his ideas are not all jammed together. Therefore making it easier to read.

And if it really is too much to read just skim over it.

Karma:
Althought i don't like what he said about you...yes sometimes you do think you are smarter them some ppl and yes sometimes in that specific topic you are smarter, but there is no reason to come in the topic and try and close it down with your overflowing facts. You know karma sometimes it's just fun to debate. And sadly to say sometimes i don't respond to ur topics because i know you will write a whole long.

Karma, I have nothing against you i just advise you to try and put all ur ideas in a small summarys.

Btw X BOX 4evr. :buttrock:[/quote]
Love is in the air......

ledmonkey 12-12-2003 12:09 PM

okay...i guess no one took my advice on not starting a flame war.....Ken-Po(not that I'm taking sides or anything) Your being a little to aggressive on this......what does somebodys personal life have to do with gaming consoles....

Ken-Po 12-12-2003 12:26 PM

[quote:post_uid0="ledmonkey"]okay...i guess no one took my advice on not starting a flame war.....Ken-Po(not that I'm taking sides or anything) Your being a little to aggressive on this......what does somebodys personal life have to do with gaming consoles....[/quote]
led: he called me a bastard, bastard = an orphan or somone who lost his mother. Thats not personal life? Yes it is, I love my mom very much and he is posing as if she was dead by calling me a bastard. So think about it for a second.

Kingryu1 12-12-2003 12:30 PM

can you guys shut up crying? stick to the topic -_-

ledmonkey 12-12-2003 12:42 PM

even if he started it....maybe you should end it! :D

Elena 12-12-2003 02:59 PM

[quote:post_uid0="SonicDX"][quote:post_uid0="Elena"][quote:post_uid0="Ken-Po"]First I'd like to point out that it takes an average human brain more time to read one post SSJKARMA makes then to read 2 forums with regular posts. Dude you seriously need to cut down on all those paragraphs.

Few more things to Karma. 1.You should really stop thinking that your smarter then everybody else just because you write 2 page ESSAYS on a forum instead of a regular post. 2. Noone wants to tell you this but you really ARE a pain in the ass when it comes to an argument, you always think your smarter then everybody else. DUDE YOUR NOT ! People just ignore it and let you go thinking that you're more inteligent because they know your gonna start writing a whole book on this forum. Everybody is unique in their own ways, so is the xbox and so is the PS2. Xbox has things that are better then PS2, and the PS2 has things that are better then the XBOX. So don't degrade the PS2 so much because your precious xbox looks like a bathing tub with 2 tentacles. Have you seen the damn thing? ITS GIANT! The PS2 you can easily store it.
So there, reply with a galileo book of physics just like I know you will. Go back to microsoft <!--emo&:laughlong:[/quote]
Ken Po:
Actually, if you think about Karma doesn't type a lot it is just a lot of small paragraphs instead of 2 long paragraphs such as urself.

Karma is actually doing pretty good. All his ideas are not all jammed together. Therefore making it easier to read.

And if it really is too much to read just skim over it.

Karma:
Althought i don't like what he said about you...yes sometimes you do think you are smarter them some ppl and yes sometimes in that specific topic you are smarter, but there is no reason to come in the topic and try and close it down with your overflowing facts. You know karma sometimes it's just fun to debate. And sadly to say sometimes i don't respond to ur topics because i know you will write a whole long.

Karma, I have nothing against you i just advise you to try and put all ur ideas in a small summarys.

Btw X BOX 4evr. :buttrock:[/quote]
Love is in the air......[/quote]
Really, Where?

Ifur talking about me a Karma then no...He's a 23 year old and I'm 15...what a good match?(sarcasim) I hate ppl who think just because you defend someone they think you like them.

Bastard: A child who was born before parents got married.

And Ken Po I'm not saying it was ok for karma to call you a bastard i'm not saying that in anyway. I just saying you don't have to be so rude.
Remember: "2 wrongs don't make a right"

And before one of you guys post again i just want to say: DON'T. No point to try and persue the other guy. You guys are too stingy. Ok Ken-po you like PS2 and karma likes X box yea...end of that disscussion...you guys are making fools ofurselfs. Arguing over the dang internet.



Edited By Elena on Dec. 12 2003 at 18:05

Ken-Po 12-12-2003 03:41 PM

And yet again your against me. Yes I was rude, after he was rude. And who ever said that you liked Karma I just wanna know that.....and if he's 23 years old.....I got nothin more to say to him :laughlong:

SSJKarma 12-13-2003 06:37 AM

just so you know guys/girls !
BASTARD : an animal cross-over between two races. aka not a pure one !

like i said, cry me a river ! i don't care i've never said i was superior to anyone here, but at least i take my facts somewhere when i debate, i just don't come over here debate on things that i made up !

you want usa to stay on topic, clear on that...
i'll repeat myself...

XBOX = the best console
GAMES = need all three in my house !

its as simple as that !

ledmonkey 12-13-2003 10:39 AM

...Hah...gamecube is getting owned

Elena 12-13-2003 01:03 PM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]just so you know guys/girls !
BASTARD : an animal cross-over between two races. aka not a pure one !


i'll repeat myself...

XBOX = the best console
GAMES = need all three in my house ![/quote]
No Karma I'm sorry that ur wrong but it's what i said it was which was:
Bastard:
1 : an illegitimate child
2 : something that is spurious, irregular, inferior, or of questionable origin
3 a : an offensive or disagreeable person -- used as a generalized term of abuse

Illegitimate:
1 : not recognized as lawful offspring; specifically : born of parents not married to each other

Ken Po was talking about the first defintion of bastard....

Sorry you guys i just had to say that...again Karma stop trying to be right all the time.

Btw Karma maybe it's just me but you remind me of that comic book guy off The Simpsons...
Quote:

Worst day ever kid

ledmonkey 12-13-2003 01:10 PM

lol...now that you mention it...its not just you

Ken-Po 12-13-2003 09:28 PM

I lay down the white flag. I got nothin more to say to a 23 year old man :laughlong: . Argument over, Karma wins the debate......

:laughlong:

Zpower 12-13-2003 09:40 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Elena"][quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]just so you know guys/girls !
BASTARD : an animal cross-over between two races. aka not a pure one !


i'll repeat myself...

XBOX = the best console
GAMES = need all three in my house ![/quote]
No Karma I'm sorry that ur wrong but it's what i said it was which was:
Bastard:
1 : an illegitimate child
2 : something that is spurious, irregular, inferior, or of questionable origin
3 a : an offensive or disagreeable person -- used as a generalized term of abuse

Illegitimate:
1 : not recognized as lawful offspring; specifically : born of parents not married to each other

Ken Po was talking about the first defintion of bastard....

Sorry you guys i just had to say that...again Karma stop trying to be right all the time.

Btw Karma maybe it's just me but you remind me of that comic book guy off The Simpsons...
Quote:

Worst day ever kid
[/quote]
:laugh: either this is how you two show how much you lovvvve each other or you guys are pretty screwed in the head :laugh:... Come on Karma and Elena both of you two arguing over which console is the best. Either way you're both wrong. Its what a person likes heck you could of thrown SNES or Atari into the mix. Im shure they would of gotten a vote too. BUT sincing that this is an which system is better hmmm not very detail but if you're going by which system is able to produce the best graphics and smoothest animation. DUH just look at the X-Box's stats....Going by quaility of games then you're just debating on opinion and not facts. I think this should be closed because it is now ended. I mean if to keep arguing over someones opinion will only result in even more arguments. No one wants to read continuing arguments ok...well sometimes but not this time :laughlong:



Edited By Zpower on Dec. 14 2003 at 00:41

MrPegasus88 12-13-2003 09:44 PM

Xbox is cool I heard ps3 is comming out in 2005 I can't untill it comes hopefully it will have dvd and some good getting edge graphics on the games.

Zpower 12-13-2003 10:05 PM

Yah the ps3 will push console gaming to the next level with their newly designed grahpics. I've heard something about them having some kind of new graphic sceme that has to do with cells or something anyhow sounds good. Well and the X-Box is coming out with their new system. Which I think will have a 1gig processor in it and no telling what eles. To have a 1gig processor in a console is pretty amazing because it'll be able to match the graphics of a 3gig cpu with a geforce grahpics card or maybe more not shure. Anyhow Im looking forward to 2005-2006 alot of new technology will be coming out. Hmm I still waiting for that new dell chip-set oh boy :).

SSJKarma 12-14-2003 04:27 PM

BASTARD really = what i said guys !
it may means other things, a lot of words are sued for many things, but int he french dictionnary that word is more used for ANIMALS then for HUMANS ! so i was referring to my version, but in any case its a good insults !

anyway... you guys are already talking about the PS3 or XBOX 2 when the first consoles aren't even finished yet ! you people make me laugh ! seriously, the ps3 will not be over 1 gig of CPU and it will surely not be any new technology nor will the xbox be !

CELL SHADING, well look at the game TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLE and the game XIII, they both are using that technology already, its used mainly for ANIMES games for now, but sure will be used in many other games soon to come !

oh and by the way, in games, the CPU does so little in itself ! the GPU does 80% of the games speed ! the better the GPU the better the game will be, even if the CPU is low ! EXAMPLE: the PS2 capable of good graphics even tho it has a 300mhz CPU !

so having over 1 gig cpu will be something not really of a big deal.

Elena 12-14-2003 05:13 PM

AHHHHH for the last f**k'n time me and Karma have nothing going on. He's 23 and I'm 15 it would be illegal.

And Z-power me and karma we not debating against each other...we like the same system.

And if Ps3 is coming out it will also probably be rushed just like Ps2 and it wouldn't be as good as it should be. Hopefully when Ps3 comes out X-box will come out with something. Something not as bulky and a better controller.

Zpower 12-14-2003 05:27 PM

Well thats "GREAT" you two have nothing "going on" :laugh:. Getting back on the subject FOLKS I didnt say the ps3 was going to have a 1.gig cpu. I said I read somewhere where the X-Box will. Also the cpu does play an important role in graphics. Because without an fast cpu the gpu wouldnt be able to produce the frames needed to get those grahpics. Also I think the ps3 will have new technology other than Cell-Shading. Come on Cell-Shading in games is old Zelda for the gamecube was cell-shaded...Anyways well Im not going to drown this topic in any further. I've already answered the freakin question...

iori 12-14-2003 06:58 PM

PS2=better games
XboX=Better online game play
Gamecube=ummmm.....yea.....

Shinatsu 12-18-2003 04:06 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Ken-Po"]I lay down the white flag. I got nothin more to say to a 23 year old man :laughlong: . Argument over, Karma wins the debate......

:laughlong:[/quote]
you can stop! but i'm gonna continue on. Karma: You still did not answer my question. If the X-box is so darn betta why is Ps2 outselling x-box? hmmm. :angryfire:

And another thing. Your 23? Why is a 23 year old man on a friigin game forum site. Don't u have a girlfriend or something. What do you just sit around all day and post on this forum? Don't u go to college? ???



Edited By Shinatsu on Dec. 18 2003 at 19:10

Shinatsu 12-18-2003 04:13 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Elena"]AHHHHH for the last f**k'n time me and Karma have nothing going on. He's 23 and I'm 15 it would be illegal.

And Z-power me and karma we not debating against each other...we like the same system.

And if Ps3 is coming out it will also probably be rushed just like Ps2 and it wouldn't be as good as it should be. Hopefully when Ps3 comes out X-box will come out with something. Something not as bulky and a better controller.[/quote]
so u are takin karma's side.Your wrong. The ps3 will not be rushed. It'll blow the lid off other sytems I'm sure of it. Remember dreamcast, soon as ps2 came out ppl were like whats dreamcast dream...what? :laugh:
New info: Check this out Karmaca href="http://www.psreporter.com/playstation 2 sales.html" target=" blank">PS2 salesc/a>

Check this out as well, seems they are developing this chip that will make the ps3 even faster than the ps2. Bill gates better think of something quick or it's his ass! :laughlong:
ca href="http://www.psreporter.com/playstation 3 news.html" target=" blank">PS3 baby!c/a>



Edited By Shinatsu on Dec. 18 2003 at 20:21

SSJKarma 12-18-2003 11:36 PM

look at it the way you want stupid nerd. i don't know why people keep talking about the PS2 since all games are easily ported to the xbox or gamecube. all fliping games that are made for PS2 can easily be availlable if the companies wanted it, the only thing that makes sony still be in the dev. is the fact that people are sold to the company itself.

just fliping look at those who even without having played or even have tryed the other consoles, have ditched it right away even before the xbox was throwned ont he market !

as for the KATANA(DREAMCAST) it was throwned away for no fliping reason, again people just ditched it because it had ony 12 games when it came out in the us, and because the fliping PS2 came with a DVD for people to see their movies !

the only thing making sony still be in the course. is the rumors they are making and their marketting !

example: everytime their console is coming, they already tell everyoine that the next generation is coming soon ! the PSOne came out, automatically i seen everyone talking about the supposed PS2 coming out the next year or so, but they actually waited for over 3 years before getting the console. same for the PS3.. the PS2 just came out, 6 month after i hear people talking about the PS3 which will actually come out about 2+ years from now !

XBOX, like the DC got DITCHED for simply nothing !
how many fringing people ditched it before it even came out just because it was MICRO$OFT who made it ? how many japanese guys (which is 75% of the market) ditched the console, even today because it is MICRO$OFT ?

RANDOM FACT: a console which fails japanese sales, is bound to be a faillure. but the japanese prefers their own company and they boycotted microsoft because its not in their country !

i swear to you, the sales of the PS2 are something to laugh at ! seeing how a console can go on simple rumors is so fliping funny !

really, this debate is far from being one...
best console: XBOX
GAME WISE : depends your type, cannot compare games since they are not the console itself but 3rd party developpers !


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