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hadoken king 06-04-2002 05:07 PM

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]roll, you don't know anything about dbz and you only know about sf. dbz characters have fought many times on the ground. sure, akuma can destroy a mountain, but can he fly? it takes a certain amount of energy to propel yourself in the air. i don't think any sf characters can do that. you have to be at a certain level of power to be able to fly. if akuma or any other sf characters can do that, then they are not at the same level as dbz characters.[/quote]
You do not have to be a certain level to fly Videl i'm sure is not stronger than any sf character and she flew and so did dende who is also not stronger than any sf character.........ahaaaaaa!

SSJKarma 06-04-2002 05:21 PM

hey, we are not comparing thechnique that SF char could learn we are talking about what Chars (DB and SF) actually have !

then again, like i already said SF chars has as most chance as DB ones, its just the way of fighting who change !

anyway roll, he didn't die in that lava cause when he getted out he had that energy field around him... and it's not the dragon who made it. it's him !

freeza did freak out when vegeta came back to life !

Dan Hibiki 06-04-2002 05:31 PM

Roll, Goku was not revived by Namek's Dragon Balls, because no wish concerning him was made. He also could not have been revived by Shenron (Earth's dragon) because he had already been revived by that dragon.

hadoken king, the Street Fighter Zero Alpha movie is NOT canon, meaning whatever you see in it is, in as many words, bullshit.

princevegetam 06-04-2002 05:40 PM

it's not alpha it's called zero and the only person with enough power to destroy buildings is ryu no one else. and tarkan dbz is based on what happened in db. that means dbz characters do know lots of martial arts it's considered the basics in dbz. whereas in db ppl are just perfecting their basic martial arts techniques such as fighting on the ground. in dbz they gone over to a new level with their new ability to fly. they had to learn ways of fighting in the air which was a big advantage against ground opponents.

TarkanX 06-04-2002 05:42 PM

The part where SSJ Goku falls in the lava doesn't happen in the manga, the fight went pretty quickly after he went SSJ, this is how it goes in the manga:

-Goku turns SSJ
-Goku says a few words
-Freeza taunts Goku
-Freeza goes in for Goku
-Freezas attacks are useless against Goku, he can't hit him
-Goku lets Freeza hit him
-Goku hardly feels anything
-Freeza is getting the crap beat out of him
-Freeza throws a huge fireball at Nameks core
-Goku gets shocked
-he can't direct the fireball in time
-Freeza says they have 5 minutes
-Goku continously beats the crap out fo Freeza
-Freeza says he'll go 100%
-Goku says it'll take a strain on Freezas power supply
-Freeza doesn't care and goes 100%
-both fighters are about even
-On earth, they gathered all the DB's, and made a wish to revive everyone killed by Freeza
-The big fat namek leader gets revived, and then a lot of stuff happen(not much detail)
-They get Dende to wish that everyone on Namek go to earth except Goku and Freeza
-Freeza gets pissed that his wish didn't happen
-the fight goes on
-Freeza gets tired, so he makes to discs(similar to Kienzan)
-Goku dodges the discs, and lead it towards Freeza
-Freeza thinks he got Goku(but look behind Freeza!!!)
-Freeza gets half of his body cut off(so his top part is remaining)
-Freeza pleads for mercy so Goku gives Freeza some of his power
-Freeza tries to sneak attack Goku
-Goku looks at Freeza, and Freeza=dead horse

The battle was straight forward, and didn't last that long


The part where Vegeta was about to do a fireball on Freeza before he teleported didn't happen.

The part where Gohan fights Freiza when Goku is in the lava didn't happen, because Goku never got knocked in the lava.

princevegetam 06-04-2002 05:44 PM

they all know martial arts, it's just too low level for them. they've perfected that and evolved beyond that. they're perfecting their air combat techniques. and those energy attacks can be used on the ground. it's not directed at the ground so no harm is done to themselves. as for vitality, they've got the most vitality! do you realize that battle with the saiyans went on for a whole day! 24 hours! why? because king kai said it had to take goku a day to get there in time.

TarkanX 06-04-2002 05:45 PM

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]and tarkan dbz is based on what happened in db. that means dbz characters do know lots of martial arts it's considered the basics in dbz. whereas in db ppl are just perfecting their basic martial arts techniques such as fighting on the ground. in dbz they gone over to a new level with their new ability to fly. they had to learn ways of fighting in the air which was a big advantage against ground opponents.[/quote]
........... here is how I see it, if you read the manga, you could say DB 1-17, then 18-42

volumes 18-42 is 18 when the raditz saga begins, and 42 is when buu gets destroyed, and everyone lives happily ever after. Anything before 18 is the series where there is only one saiya-jin on earth, and that is Goku.

It doesn't say Dragon Ball Z on the manga cover, it says Dragon Ball.

princevegetam 06-04-2002 05:48 PM

dbz is continued from db. there are many times when they refer back to db. you kind of have to say what happened before is part of dbz since you just can't start off straight. it really doesn't make any sense, considering goku rides on a flying cloud for some reason and a green dude can shoot energy and some guy survives it.

TarkanX 06-04-2002 05:49 PM

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]they all know martial arts, it's just too low level for them. they've perfected that and evolved beyond that. they're perfecting their air combat techniques. and those energy attacks can be used on the ground. it's not directed at the ground so no harm is done to themselves. as for vitality, they've got the most vitality! do you realize that battle with the saiyans went on for a whole day! 24 hours! why? because king kai said it had to take goku a day to get there in time.[/quote]
Some of that day was used for resting, and taunting the opponent. Besides, theres the senzu bean which recovers your vitality. And Vegeta didn't fight the whole time, for most of the hours he just watched, and Nappa was beaten by Goku, and killed by Vegeta which wasnt the whole saiya-jin fight.

The only person who lasted through the whole fight(and that fought) was Krillin, and he was revitalized with the senzu bean, and plus he missed some of the goku vs. vegeta fight.

TarkanX 06-04-2002 05:51 PM

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]dbz is continued from db. there are many times when they refer back to db. you kind of have to say what happened before is part of dbz since you just can't start off straight. it really doesn't make any sense, considering goku rides on a flying cloud for some reason and a green dude can shoot energy and some guy survives it.[/quote]
Like I said before I use manga volumes, DB is 1-17, and DB"Z" is 18-42. But for now I'll just use DBZ just to make it easier.

princevegetam 06-04-2002 06:09 PM

the db"z" manga series wouldn't be complete without the db manga series.

TarkanX 06-04-2002 06:17 PM

......... never mind.......

SSJKarma 06-04-2002 06:37 PM

i understand TarkanX !
Dragonball is all the episodes in the manga there is no Z like on TV...
on TV they called it DB"Z"

TarkanX, that's why we loved the TV show better cause they are more of a fight then the manga... but the manga does have more bloods than the cut off of funimation =;-DD

i must say that both have their charm !
but the manga is too straight forward !
you have to imagine the fight, and its that who is by my opinion too complicated to imagine since we are not in the mind of akira toriyama !

he made the chars of chrono triggers you know !

TarkanX 06-04-2002 06:44 PM

I used to be a Dragon Ball fan myself(until planetnamek.com). I agree the anime is better than the manga, because you can see what actually happens, even though the animes plot doesn't make sense. And the anime(in japan) has more blood than the manga.

asshole 06-04-2002 08:08 PM

This was a veeerrryyy stupid post to begin with.

hadoken king 06-04-2002 08:14 PM

Ok I admit it DBZ will destroy street fighter if they fought :lol:
I was talking bull before. :)

DBZ RULZ!

Dan Hibiki 06-04-2002 08:46 PM

princevegetam, the manga from Japan is called strictly Dragonball. No Z. No GT (nuh duh 'cuz Akira Toriyama never made it). Just plain Dragonball. The American translations of the manga, transformed into comics, is called Dragonball Z. The actual manga's name is Dragonball.

The anime series sucks because it deviates too much from the manga. Several fights don't happen in the manga compared to the anime, and the anime lacks the interesting humor of the manga. The anime just has really cheesy humor.

princevegetam, I had best not have to re-explain that first paragraph again. TarkanX is right. There is NO DRAGONBALL Z MANGA, FOR IT IS ALL DRAGONBALL. Do we have an understanding?

DX Zero 06-04-2002 08:54 PM

OMG! i'll just say this:
-too much posts to read so i skimmed through..
-saiyans and humans are not the same type of species so they shouldnt be compared...
compare only earthlings from dbz + streetfighter would make more sense...
-dhalsim can fly..
:D :D

patrickstar 06-05-2002 04:51 PM

i kant believe this! sf will win 4 sure u fool r we forgetting zangief?????????!!!!!!!!!! he kan pick up a planet and do that super spin and the planet would blow up!fools

muahaha

SuperSonicX 06-05-2002 05:35 PM

Yea i got dbz on cd from japan and its got nudity! lol

Dan Hibiki 06-05-2002 06:43 PM

:plain: Why are people so fascinated with that?

Roll 06-06-2002 07:47 AM

:dozingoff: Who knows...

MacDougall 06-06-2002 10:58 AM

All in all, DB does have more special attacks (including the shows, here), and more characters, too..... :baaa:

TarkanX 06-06-2002 04:05 PM

actually SF has more characters, and it's originally a manga.

Dan Hibiki 06-06-2002 04:42 PM

Well, it wasn't originally a manga, but now there is a non-canon manga out for Street Fighter. Dang, they are mean to Dan Hibiki...

Roll 06-07-2002 08:55 AM

Poor Dan *pats Dan's back*

....SF 4eva!

ZeroEna 06-07-2002 05:22 PM

THis is gona sound totaly stupid but I didn't know there was a another street fighter movie how many are there? But seroiusly the Japanese one's are better cause there's alot more fighting and blood. But if the Street Fighter characters could fly they would definatly win. SF 4 LIFE! :yinyang:

Bookboy999 06-07-2002 07:31 PM

I think it is unfair to comapre the two.... what about goku versus superman? :whatsthat:

TarkanX 06-07-2002 08:49 PM

Superman owns Goku

Roll 06-07-2002 10:24 PM

Let's just stick to the original topic, k?

Sf would still win, cause they are smart enough to not try and destroy the earth. o.o;

ZeroEna 06-08-2002 09:46 AM

Good point.

steventhebol 06-09-2002 07:05 AM

alright of we have a couple of things to look at when you are comparing Street fighter (and not friggen including X-men) and DBZ

Street fighter

* some of the characters have somewhat slow attacks
* some of the characters have fast attacks
* most of the characters want to beat the crap out of each other (remember this is street fighter)
* Most or all of them ae humans ( with mutant powers it seems like :D )
* Not all of them can fly
*they cant block all high level attacks ( they can only duck it)

Dragonball-Z
*Most of the characters have lighting fast attacks (and i do mean lighting fast)
* If you make most of them mad they will go berserk( Goku vs. Freeza for example. the only reason goku turned into a super sayain is because freeza killed those who he was real close to.)
* Goku can launch the mighty powerful earth ball ( which could kill both dbz and street fighter based on how much of it he uses. Remember that he uses almost all of the earth's energy into the ball which could take all the oxygen away from everybody)
* One of the dbz characters has an attack that could blind
*Piccolo has an attack that can confuse enemies which is that multiplying attack that he uses


Any questions?!??!?!?!?!?!?!? :cheesy: :D

Roll 06-17-2002 06:06 AM

Some good points, Steventhebol. But Sf has the upper hand in technique. They are able to learn to change their attacks easily to do what they need to do. So you never know. Like Chunli. She can use her kikoushou to defend. Same thing with every other projectile user. And also, Goku needs time to gain the power from the earth for his Spirit bomb. And he also lost that ability when he became a super Saiyan. M. Bison can multipy too (or at least create an illusion of it). Rose could absorb projectiles with her scarf (since they are 1 hitters...), Zangief could turn into Metal Zangief and do some super strong holds on them. Sakura could use her shouoken to defend against projectiles, and cause some serious damge. Ryu has his Shinkuu hadouken which is pulled off automatically. Ken has the dragon punches. Cammy has that cannon drill, along with the cannon spike. And if we involved all of capcom here, then this would be a heavy fight, but it doesn't involve it. Oh well. that's all I have.... for now... ;)

wolverinexxx 06-17-2002 05:16 PM

hey tarkan x why haven't u write me back man I need some tips.

wolverinexxx 06-17-2002 05:20 PM

hey do any of u guy know how to that transforming move with sentinel when he turns green.

princevegetam 06-17-2002 05:48 PM

i can't believe the bullshit you ppl talk about when i'm gone.

1. dbz ppl's martial arts techniques equal those of sf because in dragonball, i mean the part before the "american" dbz, they studied very hard under master roshi's techniques and goku came a long way with his techniques. other characters also perfected techniques in db. dbz is the part where they expand their techniques into energy attacks and martial arts in the air.

2. dbz ppl are not stupid, only goku is. he's the one doing retarded stuff. he's the one letting villains escape. it's for humour purposes. most of the other times he doesn't act nearly as stupid.

3.zangief cannot lift the earth! who the hell came up with that stupid idea. he can wrestle bears and that's it.

here is what i'm talking about dbz

goku has the kamehameha, kaioken which can multiply his power, spirit bomb which can gather energy from the ENTIRE universe(if he gets enough time), solar flare, teleportation and oozaru form. vegeta has his final flash and big bang. gohan has his hidden powers and masenkou. piccolo has his regenerative capabilities, beam cannon thing and stretchy limbs that can extend. trunks has his burning attack thing. tien also has the multi form and a variety of different cool techniques(can't remember all of them now). and that's most of the good guys, not counting dbz villains(cell has almost all the techniques i mentioned). plus dbz characters have proved to be able to change their attacks many times in the series. many times they have been able to do stuff like setting their fists on flame and try to punch some one. the only reason most of you ppl like sf is cause it's a game and you guys played it. if sf was just a plain anime, dbz would win. if a good enough dbz game was made to demonstrate the true power of some of the dbz characters, you wouldn't be laughing now. :angry:

weezer 06-17-2002 07:22 PM

this is too stupid!
dragonball z ppl aren't even humans...
it would only make sense if you put a sf against someone like yamcha.......or give sf ppl strength similar to what the dbz warriors have........but if you leave it like the way it is....dbz would win........if anyone has even seen sf 2 the animated movie........ryu barely has a power level of 3600 while goku has , oh i don't know, 150,000!

TarkanX 06-17-2002 08:54 PM

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3.zangief cannot lift the earth! who the hell came up with that stupid idea. he can wrestle bears and that's it.

No DB character can lift or move the earth as well. Zangief wrestles bears for sport, and Zangief isn't even the strongest SF


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goku has the kamehameha, kaioken which can multiply his power, spirit bomb which can gather energy from the ENTIRE universe(if he gets enough time)
kaio-ken decreases the power level gradually after using it, the genki-dama(spirit bomb) can only be gathered if people give energy to the user.

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solar flare, teleportation and oozaru form.
Goku has lost the ability of his oozaru form since his tail was cut off.

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vegeta has his final flash and big bang. gohan has his hidden powers and masenkou.
This is true, but all of Gohans power was released in the buu saga by the rou-dai kaio-shin(old perverted mystic guy). So Gohan cant get any stronger anymore.


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piccolo has his regenerative capabilities, beam cannon thing and stretchy limbs that can extend. trunks has his burning attack thing. tien also has the multi form and a variety of different cool techniques(can't remember all of them now).
Piccolo can regenerate his body parts as long as his head is intact


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and that's most of the good guys, not counting dbz villains(cell has almost all the techniques i mentioned). plus dbz characters have proved to be able to change their attacks many times in the series. many times they have been able to do stuff like setting their fists on flame and try to punch some one.
They don't change their attacks, they learn them through sheer training.


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the only reason most of you ppl like sf is cause it's a game and you guys played it. if sf was just a plain anime, dbz would win. if a good enough dbz game was made to demonstrate the true power of some of the dbz characters, you wouldn't be laughing now.

I defend both sides with true proof, and not lame ass ones. I give some weak points from street fighter. I did say Ryu would lose to Piccolo didn't I..... Too bad a DB game isn't made to demonstrate their powers, but there is a manga! there are some SF characters that would own the DB characters.




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this is too stupid!
dragonball z ppl aren't even humans...

Some of the DB characters are human, they just have greater ki than the average human.


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it would only make sense if you put a sf against someone like yamcha.......or give sf ppl strength similar to what the dbz warriors have........but if you leave it like the way it is....dbz would win........if anyone has even seen sf 2 the animated movie........ryu barely has a power level of 3600 while goku has , oh i don't know, 150,000

For your information, Yamucha has great potential, but hasnt trained since Cell died. Like I said Some SF characters would own DB characters. Anime doesn't count. Yes I believe Goku would overkill Ryu, but there are some SF characters that would own the DB characters. And Gokus PL is way higher than that.

Ryu does have potential, the dark hadou, if he taps into this, he'd be able to beat most of the DB characters.

Tidus2K2 06-17-2002 09:37 PM

DBZ will murk SF. I don't want to argue because it's way to obvious.

Tidus2K2 06-17-2002 09:40 PM

It said i'm unregistered. Why this stupid forum.


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