no, go read the dbz vs sf debate.

DX: he wasn't talking about wolvie !

he was talking about GEN-AN in Samurai shodown !

Vegetam: YES they do have BOTH clones in there and yes they do have BOTH original characters !

clones: hanzo and (can't remember his name) that other ninja !
they are clone of each other except that one fight with his wolf and the other not ! see, even SNK has clone and believe me, they have lots more than what you say... but yes they also have lots of originals just capcom has lots of clone and lots of originals !

can't compare those together. than here is why i prefer CAPCOM.
- the characters in CAPCOM games are drawed has anime chars. SNK just draw them with way too much details that the characters don't look as anime as they were !

- capcom made lots of fighting style, then SNK started using there kind of engine to make their games !
example: STREET FIGHTER 2 = FATAL FURY
except they changed lots of things to make it their own !
this example was like 10 years ago, and now SNK as made their own engine !

-CAPCOM is still alive and continues to make games. SNK is dead and won't be doing any KOF games !

damn, i'll have to stop there as i never really played KOF games !
let's say that YES SNK has done great games... namely Samurai Shodown. but capcom made LOTS of GREAT games ! and they will always be best in their fighting games !

roll: capcom's groove is easier to use and easier to understand cause you play more capcom games than SNK. you're more used to capcom's groove and you're not as experienced using SNK's groove. and what are you talking about!? just cause SNK artists have a different style of art, doesn't mean it's weird. everyone is just more used to capcom artist's style of art. cause i thought capcom artists made SNK characters look weird.


SSJKarma: yes, SNK also has clones and Capcom also has some original characters, but SNK has more original characters than Capcom. SNK's characters are also more powerful than Capcom's characters. and SNK is only dead, cause Capcom started this whole fighting game genre! they're the ones who created the first fighting game and ppl are more used to their games

dxzero: i wasn't comparing wolvie with vega. i was merely using him as an example to show the similiarities between their claws.

why SNK is a lot better than capcom:

-the character's looks reflects a lot about their personality, life and style of fighting

-SNK games are WAY more difficult(very good AI) to beat than Capcom games(i can kick cyber-akuma's ass easily, but i can't even touch Igniz from KOF2001).

-SNK games are although MOSTly slow paced, they require more thinking and strategy to fight

-SNK has characters that utilise a GREATER VARIETY of different kinds of fighting techniques

Vegetam: more characters in SNK games ?

capcom = about 50+ characters just in SF games !
how many charaters do have SNK ?

the characters in SNK games aren't even looking good !
they don't like anime they are too realistic and have too much details in them to be any good. example: ryu in capcom game is ANIME style (original) but in CvsSNK he simply resemble a normal guy in white outfit he entirely lost his ANIME touch !

SF has his own ANIME and what is SNK got ?
anyway, i think that even if we proove you black on white that SNK is nothing compared to capcom, you'll simply continu to tell SNK is better ! just look at your POLL and you already got your answer... SNK is nothing compared to CAPCOM !

i finish this debate cause i doubt you will ever change mind and i don't really know KOF games to continue argue ! as i have only the old Fatal fury serie to argu with !

man, don't you even consider some factors in this poll? i'd say it's likely that 90% of all ppl in this forum are either fans of marvel or SF. so of course they're gonna vote for the one they know about. i bet 80% of the ppl in this forum don't even know what SNK is.

i said more ORIGINAL characters than SF. and even still, SNK has more characters than Capcom. in a game like kof2001 there is 40 characters. and that's not including many of the characters from other kof games. and that anime+realistic thing is your own opinion(are you talking about the art in the old poopty fatal fury series?)! cause i think SNK characters look WAY better. expecially the characters in last blade, garou and SS. and some of the artwork done on characters are truly amazing (at least better than some of the SF stuff i've seen).

check this out:

http://www.snkneogeo.co.jp/official/...of2000_top.jpg

Capcom has lost its vote from me, just because so many people are going with it. In a situation like this one, I would choose the one that is less popular, but still kicks arse. Therefore, my vote is for SNK. Iori rules!!!

ok,capcom rules,period. :angryfire:

*cough* #### ism*cough*

Capcom made better games never played samurai showdown.I am sure its good what the heck kof sounds like something people do when the have a cold :lol: I have played it maybe once.Snk they are trying to hard with there controls man its just not going to work :( Capcom Original minimum amount of clones.SNK cloned most of their Ideas of people from capcom nuff said.You have been given examples by roll and other people ok princevegetam give it a rest plz.Capcom characters have nice plots and stuff and storys.Snk speed is not always every thing.People only love the games speed not the characters good :baaa: and what not.Also how fast they can perform what eva and so forthwith its speed thats what I found bad about that Inc.Also controls for most capcom characters you can manuever easily with asking for your friend to teach you the basics and stuff :biggrin: By the way don't try and revive this topic by this post alone this debate is way over the people have voted view the votes plz they say everything manhttp://www.gamegen.com/fightgen/char...all-pocket.gif

do not post if you don't know a f ckin thing about SNK, kof stands for King of Fighters.

p.s. quiet_killer can you PLZ!!! use proper grammar and spelling for once! it's really hard to understand your posts! plz! man

it sure fricking is.

Gee capcom is winning and I knew I had played kof once had forgot the name stop cussing you illiterate unkind Multispammish person.I am so happy that I voted for capom HmMm..Well at least the good stuff is winning Nuff said :biggrin: Also yea that maybe true you made the debate how many times do you have to try and prove your point across if this is so try the edit button.Ahem now have a nice day you flamehead cool off man ??? If I had known you were this nice in the forums I would have made it my Job too kill you the last time I saw you Princevegetam.Regardless that was not anice thing to say you can't beat me so I am going to say sorry.Plz just stop the flamming though.[img:post_uid14]http://www.gamegen.com/fightgen/characters/akuma-fireball-pocket.gif[/img:post_uid14]

WHAT FLAMMING!!? are you saying that asking you to spell properly and use proper grammar is flamming? i don't think that's too much to ask.

it really truly isnt...btw, fricking is not a cuss werd...

Capcom may be winning, but SNK will have its day of glory...muahahahahaha!!!

[quote:post_uid6="princevegetam"][/quote:post_uid6]
snk snk snk snk snk snk rocksssss

i'm so glade you agree.... :)

Screw SNK and Capcom... Marvel OWNZ them both.. :laugh:

:hmmm: don't go off topic

[quote:post_uid0="mastaq"]Screw SNK and Capcom... Marvel OWNZ them both.. :laugh:[/quote]
:lol: :withstupid: which by the way is for princevegetam.Lets stay on topic.I am for capcom marvel and snk.They all rock I am done posting in this topic.Was that proper enough grammar for you.Mr teacher I mean princevegetam :biggrin:http://www.gamegen.com/fightgen/char...all-pocket.gif

Vegetam, leave him alone. He has a small ego. Now, moving back...

Did I say I wasn't used to it? No. I am, actually. And I even asked my friends to try out both (and they are the VERY girlish types... meaning: Video games=immature) And they found Capcom easier. Why? I asked them, and they say because they can attack and it'll rise. Plus, they can perform Lvl 3 supers without being in a dangerous level, and the Snk groove needed to be in the danger level in order for them to do a lvl three super. They didn't like SNK that much, because it only enabled them to do lvl 1 supers when they would want to use lvl 2/3 supers, there was no lvl 2 super, and lvl 3 supers could only be used before being ko'd. They thought of it being a desperation attempt, also, when I pointed out they could continuously use supers over and over when near KO. They thought SNK was both cheap, and stupid. They thought capcom was more fair on both sides. But then, afterwards, they blew me off for the mall, and I stayed home to record the results. Unfortunately, SNK lost that one badly, and they didn't like the characters for SNK either... I can tell you that much.... (I'm still trying to clean up the mess they made when they saw Irochi Iori...) But enough said. Let's let you retort with something now. And, please, don't say anything about my friends, or I shall be forced to hurt your ego...

Capcom..
Which company is still in business capcom.
Which company has the most games capcom,
Capcom owns SNK
Capcom put SNK out of commission! (by putting them out of a job!)
So now Snk developers want to work for capcom now.....
Capcom is better than SNK bottom line...

Conclusion of this topic - Princevegetam needs to grow up, and not base his life on LAME SNK characters storylines... and anyone who is that blind to see the truth because of their own STUPID opinions, is just an ignorant twat not worth wasting time on. PERIOD.

I like both SNK, and Capcom, but Princevegeta's posts are entirely rediculous.

now let's end this topic peacefully.

tantum: :hmmm: no one's opinion is stupid. i do not base my life on lame snk characters. do not assume things until you are fully aware of the situation.

roll: lol, that's an interesting story. but which groove are you talking about? cause SNK has many grooves.

hadoken king: capcom started the whole fighting game genre with their first street fighter game. then came SNK. by then, ppl were more familiarized to Capcom's games. it's just like microsoft. microsoft word isn't the best word processor right now, but it sells big cause ppl are more familiar with the product. so basically, capcom had an advantage over SNK from the beginning. besides, SNK isn't totally dead yet, the rights to its games have been acquired by playmore and various other companies.


and PPL! i've been saying this in the past posts. you totally misunderstood the real meaning of this topic, i was trying to debate on who would win if SNK characters FOUGHT capcom characters. personality and stuff was only a characteristic.

[quote:post_uid0="princevegetam"]:hmmm: akuma is cool cause he is powerful and evil. originality is based on things you don't see everyday.[/quote]
I realize I'm getting into this a little late, but I gotta tell ya that Akuma is not evil. He has his own mentality on fighting (screw those who get in the way of my training), but he even saved a little kid who wandered into his SFA3 cave when he wasn't training.

I vote for Sammy (an interesting loophole). Sammy is making KOF Ex Neo Blood for the GBA, which means that I can vote for them, aiming my vote moreso to Guilty Gear X. If you want terrific and pretty original character design, look at GGX characters like Sol, Anji, Jam, Millia, Chipp, Johnny, and May, as well as the other characters to a lesser extent (Ky looks like Kyosuke to me for some reason).

Now, on the point for KOF Ex Neo Blood and Guilty Gear X characters winning in a fight against Capcom...

Iori beats Ken.
Kyo beats Ryu.
Jam beats Chunli.

I could go on and on, but for every character type that Capcom has, KOF Ex Neo Blood or Guilty Gear X has a better one.

:hmmm: um... kof was still created by SNK, originaly tho. and yeah, i'll have to admit that ggx is good. but not "quite" good as SNK, mainly cause they don't have as many characters as SNK. but if there were same number of characters, i would pick ggx over SNK.

Well, if we are to compare their fighting abilities, then let's look at the games in which they are BOTH in, since they are available, CvS and CvS2. Judging by how Capcom vs. SNK was created and attributed, I think the game had (For each side) about 4 people each for lvl 1, Capcom had 7 and SNK had 8 for people that have a level of 2, 4 people for capcom and 3 people for SNK had a level of 3, and 2CAP+1SNK people have a level of 4. Judging by how the scales went in that game, the game went pretty much even with strengths. So it's a bit hard to compare. I guess I could try making the computer play against itself to see... if that's possible...

Oh and, I'm talking about the groove in CvS. You know, the one that disables lvl 2 supers, and when you charge up for it, you get a horrible beat down if you don't stop fast enough. And if you're in danger of losing, you can continuously use supers as a desperation attempt, and when it is at MAX people can only use the max level at near-ko. That SNK groove. I haven't seen any others, and I dun have any other SNK related games, so..

i pick SNK cause well.. the boss is Ultimate Rugal

Is that even a reason? If it is, then I pick Capcom because the boss isn't always the same person for each player, making it infinitely better.

okay.... Ultimate Rugal is the most powerful character in there. cause i read it on this Prima's Official game guide thing.

Why don't you actually fight him to find out? For all you know, they could be the most horrible players in the world. It's just like when this review put that the only way to beat Akuma mode in SFA2 Gold was to play a Shin Akuma and enable super mode in the options screen. I beat Akuma mode with Sakura, without any cheap power ups.

Have YOU ever fought Ultimate Rugal from the KOF series? He makes Shin Akuma look like a wimp. I cried and cried while trying to beat him.

Well, EXCUSE me! I only just told him to TRY fighting him instead of trusting some person who wrote something down. For all I know, Vegetam could probably beat Ultimate Rugal easily. You don't have to blow up on me saying that I should play against him, when I never said the guy was easy.

I seriously didn't blow up. I start cussing like crazy when I get angry (people will tell you that).

Sorry, I'm a bit touchy lately. A certain few pm's got sent to me by a certain person *coughbunmicough* and they just get me so angry, I just...just....UGH! I gotta go fight something...

um.. thanks for the compliment but, it's not likely roll. okay, here is the story with Ultimate Rugal (real name is: God Rugal) okay, basically, there are two MAIN bosses in CvS2. ShinAkuma and UltimateRugal, if you really fought both of them you can tell that ShinAkuma(the cpu keeps on doing hadokens) is nothing compared to UltimateRugal. in the shinakuma time line, akuma kills rugal with the raging demon and rulga in a last attempt thrusts his hand into akuma turning him into Shin Akuma with orochi blood(akuma goes crazy). in the ultimate rugal timeline, rugal easily defeats akuma and sucks the dark hado power out of akuma. then tosses akuma away. so ultimate rugal has the power of orochi and dark hado in him(this time line is often considered more official, because Ultimate rugal is supposedly the final last boss of CvS2, since it is harder to get to him).

anyways, these guys are nothing compared to Igniz from Kof 2001(in my opinion of course). i swear, that igniz guy is invincible. even if he only has 1/4 of his life, i still can't beat the damn cheapass.

you said it yourself VEGETAM ! :D
the only reason why SNK isn't known much is because it sucks and people loves REAL fighting games !

anyway, back to the ORIGINAL topic you created...
a debate cannot be on in this kind of case, why ? because if the game wasn't balanced and EVEN the game wouldn't last too long in the arcade and would get trown in the toilet as fast as it was created !

you say capcom games suck more than SNK ! FINE your opinion, but telling that SNK chars would beat Capcoms char is purely your Opinion and you can't really debate on opinions !

let me just finish this with the simpliest question...
if SNK can beat Capcoms, why are there people beating out the game without cheats, with SF characters ?

i think that explain why this debate should be lock cause there is no point arguing on OPINIONS simply because opinions aren't even base on REAL things !

i love capcoms games better because its the way it is and that's final... here is the only answer you'll ever get in this kind of debate ! so sorry if this hurt your feeling and i hope you won't FLAME me with "YOU DON'T KNOW SNK, THAT IS WHY YOU SAY SO" because from the start it's the only thing i heard from your mouth !

okay.... *rolls eyes* i have no idea where that sudden outburst of hostility came from. but i didn't say that SNK isn't known much because it sucks. i bet if this debate was in a forum about a SNK game, then the tides would turn. and part of your argument is true, yeah, when i say i like SNK better than Capcom, that's my opinion. but debating on which companies' characters would win in a fight is a different matter. the thing is, SNK characters HAVE beaten the best of Capcom. rugal, tossed Akuma around like a rag doll and sucked away the guy's dark hado energy to make himself into Ultimate Rugal. besides, if you've ever played boss characters from either capcom or SNK. SNK bosses are always more hard to beat than capcom(this isn't an opinion, cause the difference in fighting power is just too much to be considered an opinion). and the only reason i said "YOU DON'T KNOW SNK, THAT IS WHY YOU SAY SO" for only ONCE, is cause, well think about it. how could you debate on something if you havent established a position on the matter after hearing arguements from both sides?

i know i don't know those GAMES like my pocket but it doesn't mean i can't say anything about em !

and you still not answered my question !
if SNK is that STRONG over CAPCOM why is there people beating the crap out of the final boss in CvsSNK games, with SF chars ?

answer:
because the damn game is BALANCED and thoo you love SNK better, it is a game and everyone has their advantage over the others ! so there is no winners in strenght just better players !

The AI cannot be involved in this as the AI is made for you to have nightmare about a char you can't beat ! lets say that even DAN HIBIKI could destroy you in an instant if it were for his AI made for it !

the fact is, there is no STRONGER chars in all fighting games as they have their advantage over all the other chars and that include all the so called JOKE CHARS !

example:
servbot: doesn't hit hard but sure can be hard to hit !
DAN HIBIKI: the only char that can combo ALL his supers and so is the only char that boost when he taunt

those are pretty good example...
like i always said...
THERE IS NO BETTER CHARS, BUT THERE ARE BETTER PLAYERS !

agreed

Princevegetam, that statement is complete nonsense ("ultimate whoever, is the best character... because he's impossible to beat.") how do you figure? if... a level 1 benjamaru's difficulty got shot up to 50 (normal max = 8) i bet you couldn't kill it with 5 level 4 characters!!!