um, wrestlemania? like in most games, the attacks are toned down to make it fair. Do we all agree that majin buu is stronger than dabura? because, in dbz budoten (snes), dabura and majin buu are evenly matched--it wouldnt be fun if their strengths were accurate.

And Nantuko Joe, and Dan Hibiki? i have a question. (Im only familiar with the anime) why, when majin vegeta attempts to kill majin buu, does he not destroy the planet? He is stronger than imperfect cell was, and yet imperfect cell had the power to blow up the earth with a self destruct. Plus, vegeta's power was boosted by babidi's control. Yet his blast only left a crater which couldnt have been more than 1000 miles across (thats being generous).

Whats the deal?

and could you give a brief summary of power levels in the buu saga? Ive seen SO many different claims...

like, perfect cell= 25,000,000
gohan fighting cell at max=41,000,000....
but what gets me is this: goku's mega spiritbomb=100,000,000
are these numbers accurate?

SBYRD5: King Kai Fist? Please, it's the Kaiouken.

and he can't explode from it, that's bs...not even the anime claimed that. The only negative side effect is that the Kaiouken puts an extreme amount of stress on the body, and if he uses too high of a level for too long, it could kill him due to the stress and tiredness.

viper2040: During the Buu Saga, a simple energy dan could destroy the earth. However, Toriyama had to make it more realistic, and therefore almost made the earth invincible (until they used an attack that could destroy it)

And those couple of powerlevels you just listed are 100% pure crap. I'd like for you to tell me which website had listed those powerlevels. Let me clear something up for ya:

Perfect Cell (according to the level you listed): 25 million
Furiza Form 4, 100% (according to mathematical calculations): 21.2 million

I'll add yer AOL sn to my buddy list. If I see you online, I'll IM you my powerlevels (which have been more or less accepted on a bunch of forums by ppl who have ten time more knowledge about DBZ than I). But those levels are crap. Super Perfect Cell's powerlevel is about 14x higher than what you listed him at. SSJ2 Gohan's powerlevel is also about 9x higher than what you listed him at. Goku's Chaou Genki Dama is about 7x higher than what you listed him at.

Joe is actually incorrect on the reason for Cell being able to destroy the Earth and Vegeta's Final Skill (English translation) not destroying it. It is range versus intensity. Cell's self-destruct has immense range. Vegeta's suicide had massive intensity for the blast, and limited range to about 1km.

[quote:post_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]Joe is actually incorrect on the reason for Cell being able to destroy the Earth and Vegeta's Final Skill (English translation) not destroying it. It is range versus intensity. Cell's self-destruct has immense range. Vegeta's suicide had massive intensity for the blast, and limited range to about 1km.[/quote]
Not quite, Hibiki. Vegeta's was more powerful...as in both pure strength of the explosion and the range of the explosion. Technically, even the crater woulda destroyed the earth...just like Gotenks' Gekitotsu Ultra Buu Buu Volleyball attack also should have sent Buu straight through the core of the earth and through the otherside...yet it didnt.

I'm getting annoyed at your CONSTANT disagreeing, but that's just me being in a bad mood right now. I'll address your incorrect comment tomorrow.

[quote:post_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]I'm getting annoyed at your CONSTANT disagreeing, but that's just me being in a bad mood right now. I'll address your incorrect comment tomorrow.[/quote]
Bad mood? Men don't get bad moods...

must be that time of the month... ???

jk, jk, jk, it's a joke, plz dont hurt me... :D

This is a debate. We're SUPPOSED to disagree

Sinkiu Hakuden

kamehama is stronger

I'd have to say say kamehameha :D

ryu: Siiinkuuu!!! hadouken!!
*kens jumps in*
ken: Hadoukennnn!!
my fav move in x-men vs sf double sinku :D

Perfect Cell(After self destruct)=300,000,000
Level 2 Gohan=340,000,000

Thats what I think also factor in the fact that SSJ become more powerful after each near death injury.(including Cell)

[quote:post_uid0="SBYRD5"]Perfect Cell(After self destruct)=300,000,000
Level 2 Gohan=340,000,000

Thats what I think also factor in the fact that SSJ become more powerful after each near death injury.(including Cell)[/quote]
Cell was much stronger than that. Go to Mallarky.net Powerlevel List to check out my powerlevels