[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]"Pit bulls and pit-bull crosses (not always easy to distinguish) have caused more than a third of the nation's dog-bite fatalities since 1979 and a comparable proportion of serious injuries. The rising number of attacks, and the unease pit bulls and other dangerous dogs cause in public spaces, have spurred many municipalities to crack down with legislation ranging from muzzle laws to bans on pit bulls and certain other breeds."

http://www.city-journal.org/html/9_2_scared_of_pit.html

My site has everything your site doesn't, the truth.[/quote]
"pit bulls and other dangerous dogs"--- Really, is that so? Well, why is it that only pit bulls are taking the heat. It doesn't even focus on any other breeds, it just goes straight for pit bulls. And thats how you know your so called truth is one sided.

AND I love this part "not always easy to distinguish"... HAHAHA... so what does this mean. A different breed may have attacked a person but since they really couldn't say, they just said pit bull... thats funny right their.

[color=#00FF00:post_uid3]Omg....pitbulls...in denver...omg..thas MESSED Up..i have 3 pitbullz and if we evr go to denver ima smack any1 who tries to kill or "Put To Death Row" my pitbulls...their not that scary really....all you needa do is one o the following to keep em under control:

1. The obious have a leash on it.

2. If itz in the street (wild dog) kick it lmao...

3. At least call the pound and POUND it u don gotsa kill it omg...

There are many alternativez that killin a Pitbull...thatz Messed Up......If their afraid then that their problem call the POUND!![/color:post_uid3]

[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]Uhh, because if you have an ounce of a brain you would know pitbulls can snap instantly, kill anyone that moves, and they're 1/3 of the world's maulings.

They're the ones that are starting all the poop. If you can save 1/3 of the people who get mauled by dogs from getting mauled, wouldn't you?

Unless you're some cold hearted nazi.[/quote]
Yeah u got a point there but still....why kill them???...why don't you just put em all in a certain place like whatz his name said...and BTW...wazzup VF long time no see...

Anyway...

I think that as a law, people have the right to own a pit bull. Just like people have the right to be racists (as Virtual said in the topic "Racism"). This is a free country and if a person that comitts racist crimes and acts can walk on the streets spreading hate, than so can all the pit bulls. Much more people died and die because of racism than their are people dying from pit bull atacks. People have the right to own pit bulls as do they have the right to free speach. BOOOYAKA!

"What is this, nazi germany or flipING AMERICA!"



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[quote:post_uid0="Windarossa"]Anyway...

I think that as a law, people have the right to own a pit bull. Just like people have the right to be racists (as Virtual said in the topic "Racism"). This is a free country and if a person that comitts racist crimes and acts can walk on the streets spreading hate, than so can all the pit bulls. People have the right to own pit bulls as do they have the right to free speach. BOOOYAKA![/quote]
well..yeah..but still i think they are kinda dangerous..but in my opinion i don really care if their roamin round the streets..itz just if the law sayz kill em thaz CRAZY i mean put im on an island at least.....and...umm....BOOYAKA!!??...lmao...i think ur the only 1 i know who does that lmao...

[color=#810541]wow... took you forever to come up with that one. :D

I don't need to flatter myself, unlike some.

And btw, saying nazi in every other post is retarded LOL


Anyway...

Whitetiger, lol put 'em on an island... hahaha
What Island you think we should put 'em on lolz.

But seriously though, it

[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]BOOYAKASHAOOBOYAASSKSAHASASKKASSHSHSHSHSHAHSAcAKAO OYOOYOBBBBBOOOOBBBBBAAAAYYYYAASSSHSHHAAA

AckKKKAAAAAUUUUSSSSUUckKAATTTDEEEBBBATTTINNGG!!!1![/quote]
Stop spamming in my topic Please. Thank You.

[color=#000000][quote:post_uid0="Windarossa"]But seriously though, it

[quote:post_uid0="SolidSnake76"]those things are like animal sentinels, except they attack anything in sight.[/quote]
OMG!! HAHAHAHAHAH!! That is the funniest thing I've ever heard!! omg

[quote:post_uid4="Zpower"][color=#000000:post_uid4]Actually Pit Bulls are very dangerous animals to own as pets. Basically they are really over aggressive making them more prone to attack being people or other animals. Secondly these dogs are very athletic and strong especially in the muzzle area. Now these traits would be somewhat ideal for a dog owner, yet these Pit Bulls share a common killer trait which is their extremely high aggression normally found in wild animals. Does this really call for a state wide ban on the Half Bull Dog and Half Terrier killer? I think that is the right decision. Since it would be only a matter of time before another one attacked or killed another person. Why take the risk?[/color:post_uid4][/quote:post_uid4]
[color=#810541:post_uid4]Understandable. But what about the pit bulls that saved peoples lives and stuff. Don't they get some sort of credit for being good dogs?[/color:post_uid4]

[quote:post_uid0="whitetigerclaw3"].......sooo yeah.....umm....booyakasha.....lol......lmao...onl y person in da world who doez that lmao...[/quote]
lolz... believe it or not, but I'm not the only one who says that :D

[quote:post_uid0="Windarossa"]Understandable. But what about the pit bulls that saved peoples lives and stuff. Don't they get some sort of credit for being good dogs?[/quote]
I've never heard of a pitbull saving a life. IF i'm wrong, provide some links and evidense to prove yourself right.

[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"][quote:post_uid0="Windarossa"]Understandable. But what about the pit bulls that saved peoples lives and stuff. Don't they get some sort of credit for being good dogs?[/quote]
I've never heard of a pitbull saving a life. IF i'm wrong, provide some links and evidense to prove yourself right.[/quote]
OMG... are you kidding me? :eh: Honey, someone already posted a link... a long time ago... open your eyes. Raddaman posted the link and I quoted some of the stories. Look for it on page 3. What kind of a debator are you if you skip posts... :D



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[quote:post_uid0="raddaman0628"][quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"][quote:post_uid0="Windarossa"]It's like dogy racism!! Kill a dog because of how it looks!! They don't even care about it's behavior! :angry:

And not letting a 350 pound person eat McDonalds... thats just cruel. The guy is going to die anyway, so why not let him enjoy something in his life. :D[/quote]
Pitbulls are the most violent dog known to man. Just a few days ago I heard a story of a family's pitbull killing their kid, a 7 year old.

Pitbulls are killers.

Other than that, what have they done to benefit society?[/quote]
its a battle of wits and I'm unarmed but, did u actually see sometihng? Do u have proof? Oh and for ur second question maybe u'll find something here..... http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Her...oicPitties.htm[/quote]
dubya tee eff is wrong with you people... your not sure if they save lives?... why do you post in a topic if you haven't read all the posts?

[color=#000000][i]
[b]Safety and legal issues
Of the 199 dog-attack fatalities in the USA between 1979 and 1996, dogs identified as pit bulls were responsible for 60 attacks

Thats because parents don't watch their stupid kids. The kids end up walking all over the place pulling dogs ears and tails and sh!t.

From your articls...

"They have a friendly temperament and are noted for their attachment to their masters as well as for their courage. "



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[color=#810541][quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"][i]
[b]Safety and legal issues
Of the 199 dog-attack fatalities in the USA between 1979 and 1996, dogs identified as pit bulls were responsible for 60 attacks

[quote:post_uid0="marvel911"]I find it ironic that while you've been arguing that "it's not right" more of these dogs are already dead because of it.[/quote]
The whole point is that they should stop doing it marve|. People are so fast to say that pit bulls are killers but they dont want to open their eyes to the positive side of the breed... :whatsthat:

" Although negative information about pit bulls is widespread, there are also many positive stories. Some work in hospitals and care facilities as therapy dogs, and some have saved people's lives."

Quote:

VF, your article is prooving me right... lol... i love this

Uhh, no. You're highlighting the "both sides" of the argument, while most of the wikipedia articles are all about how dangerous they are.

Even your own "LOOK WUD I FUND!" arguments don't stack up. Look:

"Like all dog breeds, some members may display aggression toward other animals, but should be completely friendly and loving toward people. In fact, a Pit Bull with a proper temperament makes a poor guard dog and should, with a wagging tail and bulldog grin, let strangers walk right onto its property.

See? They won't even protect your family. They're kill your kid buy let a stranger prance in.

Pit bulls can make very good pets, but great care must be taken should one choose to care for one. They are not recommended as a first dog for a new owner, and like many breeds they require training and socialization to become well adjusted adult canines"

See? It's not for first timers, it's not for children, it's not for famiyl pets. If you don't train them well, they'll bite your face off and eat your kids.

LOL as i said before... some dog attacks people and since they aren't sure, they just say Pit bull...

Quote:

"It is important to note that many breeds look similar to the pit bull breeds to inexperienced eyes, and therefore can be confused for them." Oh and I love love love how you didn't add this to your quote "... These statistics are tainted by the fact that the breed recorded as responsible for the attack is obtained from the report of the person attacked, and many people incorrectly identify other kinds of dogs"

So, what are you saying? I really don't get what you mean by this. Maybe 10 people "misidentified" dog attacks as pitbull attacks? Who cares. Even if it was 15 misleading attacks, pittbulls would still be the #1 attackers in dogs. They make up for 1/3 of all the attacks.

In the last 35 days, look at all the attacks pittbulls have done:

RECENT FATAL ATTACKS BY PIT BULLS

An 82-year-old Spotsylvania, Virginia woman was mauled to death by her neighbor's three loose pit bulls.

A two-year-old Huntington, West Virginia girl was buried yesterday, killed in a mauling by a neighbor's pit bull that was supposed to have been quarantined eight days earlier. The animal's owner shares responsibility with the child's mother, who had been instructed not to let the young girl into the house (they had been visiting, on the porch). The owner said he orginally bought the dog to protect his wife while he lived in Texas and was sometimes away, serving in the military. I think he should have bought her a gun instead.

A St. Charles County, Missouri man who owned two pit bull mixes was killed in his home by one or both of them, due to crushing injuries to his neck from dog bites. Neighbors said he loved his dogs and had talked about how well-behaved they were.

ATTACKS BY PIT BULLS OF FAMILY AND FRIENDS

In another St. Charles County, Missouri incident, a man and his 13-year-old stepson were attacked viciously by a relative's pit bull in their home.

In Charlotte, North Carolina an eight-year-old girl waiting in a family friend's house to get her hair braided was attacked by a resident pit bull, and suffered an armpit puncture wound, a missing chunk from a calf, and a blood clot threatening a main leg artery.

A 23-month-old Portland, Oregon boy was in critical condition after being attacked by tethered pit bull owned by his family, in his own back yard, with an adult present.

In Albuquerque, a two-year-old girl was mauled by her family's three pit bulls, and was in critical condition with multiple bites and massive upper torso trauma.

A six-year-old Florida girl underwent surgery to have her left eyelid re-attached after it was bitten off by the pit bull of a family friend on a Mother's Day outing. She had approached the dog carefully, to pet it, when it snapped. The dog's distraught owner said it had never shown aggressive behavior before, and would be destroyed.

A Tennesee grandmother was shocked after her previously well-behaved pit bull mauled two of her grandchildren.

ASSORTED OTHER ATTACKS

A two-year-old San Marcos, California girl suffered puncture wounds to her head and forehead in a pit bull attack after the dog came out of a house her parents had come to in order to test drive a used car for sale.

In Toledo, Ohio, a loose pit bull bit off part of the lip of a 10-year-old boy who had been walking down an alley.

A 10-year old boy with cerebral palsy, from Old Bridge, New Jersey suffered bites on the head, arm, underarm, and hand from a neighbor's pit bull, and subsequent emotional trauma. The owner said the dog had never caused problems before. The pit bull was driven off by the child's older brother, with a plastic toy sword.

A Jacksonville, Florida man's nose was bitten off by a pit bull.

A 79-year-old Grand Mound, Washington woman was hospitalized after being attacked, unprovoked, while walking on a city street, and bitten by a pit bull and a pit bull-Rottweiler mix.

A 79-year-old Winfield, Kansas woman was hospitalized with a severe dog bite after attempting to feed a pit bull that had been chained and left without water or food. Yes, she probably just should have called animal control. But the dog's treatment speaks to an ongoing problem: there is a sizeable sub-group of pit bull owners - callous and irresponsible - who either like their pits hungry, mean and mad, or who tire of caring for them.

Two Indianapolis pit bulls were impounded after attacking an air conditioning repairman in a neighbor's yard.

A pregnant woman in Houston, Texas, and her dog were attacked by pit bull that had broken free of its chains. A neighbor chased it off with a baseball bat, another neighbor says he had regularly used a golf club to scare away aggressive pit bulls.

A 74-year-old Beaverton, Oregon man got bites on his hands and arms when he walked out of his house and a pit bull leaped out from behind some shrubs to attack him.

A pair of loose pit bulls in New Orleans bit four people before being caught.

A three-year-old Chicago girl had to have an ear re-attached after a pit bull attack.

There were "deep, significant injuries to leg and groin area" for a four-year-old in Danville, Virginia attacked by a pit bull.

In Columbus, Ohio, a seven-month-old baby was hospitalized after being attacked by a pit bull in a house.

A 12-year-old Toldeo boy required 80 stitches after being bitten by the pit bull of a 15-year-old, who, angered at being teased by the younger boy and some friends, sicced his dog on them.[/b]

PIT BULLS AND POLICE

It is popular now for pit bull owners to sometimes claim excessive force or over-reaction when police feel forced to shoot attacking pit bulls. This is disingenuous. It is incumbent upon owners, to begin with, to ensure that their pit bulls do not escape, violently charge, or otherwise exhibit aggressive behavior toward police or other individuals.

In Melbourne, Florida, a stray pit bull with no tags jumped inside a police car and attacked a police dog. A stun gun failed to subdue the pit bull, who was then shot dead by police.

In Warren, Ohio, a home alarm went off; police and a police dog came; and a neighbor's three pit bulls came out to investigate. The neighbor's pit bulls attacked the police officer and police dog, with one of the neighbor's pit bulls locking its jaws onto the police dog. That attacking pit bull and another of the neighbor's pit bulls were killed by police in response.

In Lancaster County, Nebraska, a deputy responding to a domestic call was attacked by a pit bull that exited a nearby vehicle. The pit bull latched onto the deputy's shooting arm; the deputy passed out and was hospitalized with puncture wounds.

Rampaging pit bulls were shot by police in Danville, Virginia.

In Petersberg, Virginia, a loose pit bull roaming a city block chased people, [b]bit a man twice, trapped another, bit off a broom handle proffered in defense, then attacked a police officer and was killed.

A sherrif's deputy in Savannah, Georgia serving a subpeona was charged by a pit bull, and killed it.

Police officers in Tacoma, Washington responding to a call were met by a charging pit bull, which one of them shot dead.

SOME RECENT PIT BULL ATTACKS ON ANIMALS

In Auberry, California two loose pit bulls killed nine sheep.

In Toldeo, two pit bulls were impounded after killing a Yorkshire terrier and a cat, and attacking a repairman.

A pit bull leaped from a parked car in a San Francisco transit station parking lot, into another car, to attack a service dog in-training, causing severe injuries to the service dog's face.

A Texas woman's Shih Tzu-Chihuahua mix was killed by a neighbor's pit bull.

A miniature horse in a barn near Eugene, Oregon was attacked and seriously injured by two stray pit bulls, before they were driven off with a rake.

SOME RECENT RESCUES

A Bayview, New Jersey teen was hailed as a hero, after saving three younger kids from a pit bull attack, although one child had a toe bitten off.

An 11-year-old Bartlesville, Oklahoma boy turned himself into human shield to protect his two younger siblings from a pit bull attack. He required surgery to re-attach muscles to his calf.
http://www.rosenblog.com/2005....ns.html


BUT NOOOOOOOOO. Pit bulls are good, nice dogs, aren't they! Look at all the harm and distruction they've caused. NO OTHER DOG HAS DONE SO MUCH TO SO MANY. PITTBULLS ARE DANGEROUS.


They're not called "bulls" for nothing.



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[quote:post_uid0="gieandfer"]i hate freakin road killers. DOGS SAVE LIVES

now think about it. lets pretend animals had the smae mind and personality as humans do. if they were to hold a meeting and decide to kill all white, black, hispanic, or asians cause they think they are ugly and mean, would u like it? to be killed fo rno apparent reason? and u dont even get to fight back?[/quote]
omg so true... Imagine the government saying... Lets kill all the races that have violence in them... Boy O Boy... Thats just flippin gay!

We would all be dead!



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yu got a point there


hmm ill buy some and smugle them i denver, i won' tget that far , but it worths a try...



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[quote:post_uid0="MEGA_DRACOS_XRL"]yu got a point there


hmm ill buy some and smugle them i deer, i won' get tha , ut it worth a ry...[/quote]
A watta watta!?

[quote:post_uid0="MEGA_DRACOS_XRL"]yu got a point there


hmm ill buy some and smugle them i denver, i won' tget that far , but it worths a try...[/quote]
o, excuse me there, but i hadee just up dated my post when yu qouted me Widorossa. a thousand apologies, mam