[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]No.

If I tell you, "This one time, I sawbigfoot and he was a space alien!"

Am I real? Yes. Is what I say real? No.[/quote]
But since jesus Raised the dead and walked on water, wouldn't you believe him?

And another thing...

The bible does to say the earth dosn't move and the sun revolves around it!

a) "SUN, stand THOU still.... And THE SUN stood still." (Joshua 10:12,13)

b) "The world also is STABLISHED [i.e.,"fixed" #3529 Strong's Con.] that
IT CANNOT BE MOVED." (Psalm 93:1)

c) "The sun AND the moon stood still in their habitation." (Habakkuk 3:11)

d) "He appointed the moon for seasons: the sun knoweth his GOING DOWN." (Psalm 104:19)

e) "...the world also shall be stable [fixed], that it be NOT moved." (I Chron. 16:30)

f) "He...hangeth the earth upon nothing." (Job 26:7)

g) "The sun ALSO ariseth, and the sun goeth down, and hastens to
his place where he arose." (Eccl.1:5)

h) "...so the sun RETURNED ten degrees...." (Isaiah 38:8)

i) God..."commandeth the sun, and it riseth not." (Job 9:7)

j) "...the sun shall be darkened in his going forth." (Isaiah 13:10)

k) "The heavens declare the glory of God.... In them hath He set a tabernacle for the sun, which is as a bridegroom coming out of his chamber, and rejoiceth as a strong man to run a race. His going forth is from the end of the heaven, and his CIRCUIT [orbit] unto the ends of it: and there is nothing hid from the heat thereof." (Psalm 19:1,4-6)

So suck it!

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And to answer miguel's question, no, because that's humanly impossible. It'd be nice if true, but impossible.

If that's true then what's stopping all the miricles mohammad did, or events of greek mythology from being true?



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And to answer miguel's question, no, because that's humanly impossible. It'd be nice if true, but impossible.

If that's true then what's stopping all the miricles mohammad did, or events of greek mythology from being true? [/quote]

This is how i believe. (not too offend people but this is how i see other religion) People say that Mohammad was true but did they have evedince? Or greek Mythology? People have Items at that time and place of jesus. Stories and other evidence that can prove his miracles were true.



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suck what? you just proved that the Bible is a legitimate source of knowledge......mabey if the Roman Catholics actually read the Bible then they wouldnt have killed all the people who said the sun was the center of the universe.

Re-read what you just said. I'll say it nicley, since I really could go off right now using every cussword in the dictionary.

The bible is wrong. It says there, blatantly, that they believed the sun goes around the earth. That's not true. The bible is wrong. The bible is not perfect, if anything.

These were assertions you said. Therefore, you are wrong.

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those are taken waaay out of context and if you read and studied it in hebrew it would make alot more sense.

Oh, and you know hebrew? No, you don't. The english translation exactly the same as the hebrew version, and those contredictions exsist in EVERY VERSION. The bible is wrong! Admit it, it's blatantly obviouse. If person A, who got put into the bible says the sky is blue and person B says it's red, that's a contrediction and in the same book creates a paradox, making not only the bible not perfect but WRONG.

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and there are hundreds of scientists that say I came from a monkey very simelar to bigfoot with bullpoop "evidence".......but that doesnt mean its true, does it?....apparently to alot of people today.

Yeah, because the scientists only spent their entire lifes work researching this, using crainial studies, genome projects, evolutionary theories and expiriments to come up with this theory.

But noooo... you'd rather get the easy to understand bullpoop "god did it. Shut up, quit thinking." ideal. That's what's wrong with the world. We believe in fairey tales.

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why not?......I mean, I can tell that you dont have any mental problems...well no serious ones. so why not believe you?

Because it's not true! You people are so damn gullabe. You believe everything you hear, no matter how rediculous.

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it's so repulsiive VF says.!!!!

Shut up, you're making christians look bad. Secondly, aren't christians supposed to "turn the other cheeck" and love thy neighbor?

Becayuse you sure as poop aren't showing that now. Hypocrite.

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This is how i believe. (not too offend people but this is how i see other religion) People say that Mohammad was true but did they have evedince? Or greek Mythology? People have Items at that time and place of jesus. Stories and other evidence that can prove his miracles were true.

WOW! PEOPLE HAVE FOUND ITEMS FROM WHEN JESUS WAS BORN!

Yeah, it's called history. Jesus did exsist. Did they find 400 dead fish skeletons from that night? No. What about him floating on water, is there proof of that? No. They havn't even found his tomb.

He did exsist, but the miricles he supposedly made are still un proven.

Mohammad also exsisted. If he was really spoken by the angel garbial, that's un proven. Did he really lead an army of 3,000 against 10,000? Yes, he did. We have the historical evidense to prove it. Did he do all those miricles and such?

No because Mohammad didn't do miricles, he was a profit. (supposedly)

Stories as evidense? That's bullpoop. That's like me quoting the little red riding hood as evidense to prove wear wolves do exsist.

And, greek mythology is all story. They're stories. They say the world was started when mother earth had sex with father sky, and have a bunch of kids, and so on and so on. What's the difference from that and the god-7 day theory? There is none. Both aren't true.



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[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"][/quote]
to prove that the Bible is legitimate I will painstakingly beat the hell out of the website you provided

stay tuned:

[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]WOW! PEOPLE HAVE FOUND ITEMS FROM WHEN JESUS WAS BORN!

Yeah, it's called history. Jesus did exsist. Did they find 400 dead fish skeletons from that night? No. What about him floating on water, is there proof of that? No. They havn't even found his tomb.

He did exsist, but the miricles he supposedly made are still un proven.

Mohammad also exsisted. If he was really spoken by the angel garbial, that's un proven. Did he really lead an army of 3,000 against 10,000? Yes, he did. We have the historical evidense to prove it. Did he do all those miricles and such?

No because Mohammad didn't do miricles, he was a profit. (supposedly)

Stories as evidense? That's bullpoop. That's like me quoting the little red riding hood as evidense to prove wear wolves do exsist.

And, greek mythology is all story. They're stories. They say the world was started when mother earth had sex with father sky, and have a bunch of kids, and so on and so on. What's the difference from that and the god-7 day theory? There is none. Both aren't true.[/quote]
How can you say that they aren't true if you yourself or me neither have evidence of them happening. :huh2: secondly it wasn't a warewolf it was just a wolf. And besides WE doo need evidence to know what actually happend.

I have to start all over again. ???

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God good to all, or just a few? PSA 145:9 The LORD is good to all: and his tender mercies are over all his works. JER 13:14 And I will dash them one against another, even the fathers and the sons together, saith the LORD: I will not pity, nor spare, nor have mercy, but destroy them.

Hes Good to all, And the Lord ment he will destroy Satan.

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War or Peace? EXO 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. ROM 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen.

Yes A Man of war to Satan. :huh2: The reason the lord speaks like that is for you to understand.

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Who is the father of Joseph? MAT 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ. LUK 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli.

"The answer to this supposed contradiction is relatively simple: the first seventeen verses in the first chapter of Matthew give the genealogy of Jesus through Joseph, while Luke 3 presents the genealogy of Jesus through Mary. Hence, Jacob is the father of Joseph (Matthew 1:16), while Heli is the father of Mary (Luke 3:23). If this is true, the logical question that both critics and serious Bible students ask is why Mary is not mentioned in Luke’s genealogy? The answer is again quite simple: Luke follows the strict Hebrew tradition of mentioning only the names of males. Therefore, in this case, Mary is designated by her husband’s name."
- ca href="www.apologeticspress.org/articles/609" target="_blank">www.apologeticspress.org/articles/609 c/a>

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Who was at the Empty Tomb? Is it: MAT 28:1 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre. MAR 16:1 And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him. JOH 20:1 The first day of the week cometh Mary Magdalene early, when it was yet dark, unto the sepulchre, and seeth the stone taken away from the sepulchre.

All of them, The first two quotes are the same. and Mary Magdalene was the first one to come, and on followed the rest.

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Is Jesus equal to or lesser than? JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one. JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.

They are one, Why? because God made jesus like him. Jesus said that because There is only one God and you should respect him.

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Which first--beasts or man? GEN 1:25 And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good. GEN 1:26 And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth. GEN 2:18 And the LORD God said, It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him. GEN 2:19 And out of the ground the LORD God formed every beast of the field, and every fowl of the air; and brought them unto Adam to see what he would call them: and whatsoever Adam called every living creature, that was the name thereof.

God made man first, but in the first quote he was talking about how he was goin to make the creatures. And in the third quote its talking about Eve because adam was alone.

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The number of beasts in the ark GEN 7:2 Of every clean beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens, the male and his female: and of beasts that are not clean by two, the male and his female. GEN 7:8 Of clean beasts, and of beasts that are not clean, and of fowls, and of every thing that creepeth upon the earth, GEN 7:9 There went in two and two unto Noah into the ark, the male and the female, as God had commanded Noah.

People should observe the quote before. :huh2: Noah got the clean animals(all of them) by seven and unclean by two. so he guided them by two by two.

do the rest later its 11:35. :sleepy:

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I'm not the one who has to prove it did or didn't happen, that's you. You're the one going against science, history and logic. You're the one that needs to prove to me, not the other way around.

Oh i did i say that sorry. I believe in jesus, besides i have all the evidence i need to belive in jesus.



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[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"][quote:post_uid0="~Mastermax~"]vf your wrong, the reason there is a contradiction, is becuase you shouldn't screw your sister anymore, long ago it was ok becuase there were much less people in the world, now it's hard not to bone your sister, and becuase of the worlds diveresity, a child is more likely to be born with a birth defect becuase of repeating genes.[/quote]
Uhh, wrong. The "your child comes out with birthdefects" is another myth (or lie) started by the church. There is no greater chance of your child coming out with birthdefects in eigther way.[/quote]
Obviously you're not taking the point of climate differences and migration as being the ultimate reason for the diverse skin color you find in homo sapiens today. Adaptation is also a big part... unknowingly learning how to deal with the sun :biggrin:

Good but, God didnt't make them speak spanish off the bat only different languages, not specific languages.

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If the bible was so perfect it wouldn't be giving us one idea, then saying that idea is wrong, then saying it's right again.

Whe did i say the bible was perfect, The bible is near perfect. Were only humans, humans created the bible, jesus died 30 years before they created the bible. Jesus hadt he knowledge to put everything perfect. But he hadto return to heaven. Every word in the bible is almost the axact thing that jesus teached or said and the events that happend. Thank you for pointing what I said wrong.



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[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]This "different launguage" theory is UTTER AND COMPLETE flipING BULLpoop!

Want to know how languages were made? People invented them. The romance languages (german, french, spanish, italian) game from latin, arabiac hebrew and others came from the cryillic alphebet. Then, people made new languages based on other languages.

People invented them. Just how they invented everything else. Want to know why? Open a damn history book.[/quote]
But Notice that Every Language is Pratically Conected.... So if your Saying that there were 2 Very Different Languages... Some Words are Connected.....

And Some Things in the Bible are true.... I forgot... But some of its true... and How the Heck are you going to Say that the Bible is fake and everything that they Predicted was right...... Like Isaih said way Before Jesus was even born, That People Were going to give him the Worst Death ever in HIstory... and that people were going to Reject him.... and What happened... Later when Jesus was born... The People Hanged him on the Cross and Beat him to Death almost..... Put Thorn Crown on him and Whiped him when he was Bringing the Cross on his back....

If your Saying that is Fake... Check the Bible... The is Evidence that Happened..... And thats why People Believe in God..... Everything in the Bible Is true



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[quote:post_uid0="Nosoul4Sfo"]Well here is the Truth about the the Laguages.....

Well one day these guys decided to Build a City that went all the Way up to Hevan(NOt sure if I spelled it right).... But God saw what they were doing, and then, he Made everyone Speak a Different language...... So then they coulnt finish the City.......[/quote]
they were making the tower of Bable....God changed everyones language, everyone found other people that spoke thiers and migrated and repopulated the earth.

[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]This "different launguage" theory is UTTER AND COMPLETE flipING BULLpoop!

Want to know how languages were made? People invented them. The romance languages (german, french, spanish, italian) game from latin, arabiac hebrew and others came from the cryillic alphebet. Then, people made new languages based on other languages.

People invented them. Just how they invented everything else. Want to know why? Open a damn history book.[/quote]
German, Itailan, French, english flemish, spanish all came from endo or indo-european. :buttrock:

[quote:post_uid0="Rage_Unleashed"]and if the bible was so perfect i wonder why they had to change it every time there was a new scientific finding that contradicted what was in the bible.[/quote]
it has never been changed you dumbass

[quote:post_uid0="kester-"][quote:post_uid0="Rage_Unleashed"]and if the bible was so perfect i wonder why they had to change it every time there was a new scientific finding that contradicted what was in the bible.[/quote]
it has never been changed you dumbass[/quote]
give him a break, well, atleast he put forth effort, now

they have nevr redid the bible they have mixed hebrew with sum other type of languge and called it the King james version( which most of us buy today)

[quote:post_uid0="Nosoul4Sfo"]And I got another Evidence of God..... Howbout Noahs arc? hey... They found Pieces of it...... And God Said he Flooded the earth..... Well.... That is True too :colgate:[/quote]
How, Exactly , do they know it naoh arc? was it found in africa do they know how old it is? really they could of found sum sunken boat 400 yrs ago, these jackasses, they don't know!!!1

[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]Point of story, The bible is fiction. Like harry potter, like lord of the rings, they're just a bunch of fictional stories about witches and dragons. We're smart enough not to believe them now, why do we still believe this one?[/quote]
Because a few of us homo sapiens have chosen to put our faith in something that the physical nature of man cannot completely comprehend.

No matter how many times you or any other athiest can completely disprove the existence of a God, it will be practically impossible to get rid of His exisence from the heart of man. A very practical reason is the fact that the universe you see over you is just too well designed to be without a designer. Implosions or what not do not give evidence to how something so beautiful and magestic can come to being :biggrin:

[color=#000000]Dont Say That the Bible Is fiction... Okay.... Read the Part About Isaih.... When he said way Before Jesus was born that people were going to Reject him and Kill him very bad... He was right wasnt he.... Serious man.....

..... it is under Dirt and Ground... You cant go so high because of the air... Because The Biggest mountain back then

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/k...hs_ark-big.jpg
[quote]Noah's Ark Quest Dead in Water -- Was It a Stunt?

Stefan Lovgren
for National Geographic News

September 20, 2004
In April businessman and Christian activist Daniel McGivern announced with great fanfare a planned summer expedition to Mount Ararat in Turkey. The project, he said, would prove that the fabled Noah's ark was buried there.

Explorers have long searched for the ark on the Turkish mountain. At a news conference in Washington, D.C., McGivern presented satellite images, which he claimed show a human-made object

[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]Then who designed the designer?[/quote]
That's left for people like you to ponder on. It would be a more reasonable question to ask how was it designed ?? Because we could just keep on backtracking by asking who designed the designer that designer that designed the designer that designed the designer that designed the designer that... well, you get my point :biggrin:

Hey............who created the beer creator???



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[quote:post_uid0="Virtual Fighter"]The was written after Jesus' death! don't you see that OFCOURSE what they said about jesus was true, IT WAS WRITTEN AFTER IT HAPPENED![/quote]
um no

isaiah was living like 100 years before christ came

proof? I would say the Bible, but you dont think its legit.......so on we go into the endless cycle of argument........



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