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Virtual Fighter 05-08-2005 09:40 PM

I was gonna post like a huge link post with all sorts of links and stuff proving that not all and practically just 1% of debates turn into flame wars, but blaze did a pretty good job.

BTW: nice to see you're still alive, blaze

blaze985 05-09-2005 10:40 AM

I'm here just for you, Greg. :)

dominicankid098 05-09-2005 12:02 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]I know that this may seem odd, but I'm available for moderating during all times of the day. I have no job currently, and won't likely have a job for a while, and I have the experience in moderating during the Senshukentaikai times. I'm willing to help if you and TMyApp will let me.[/quote]
Huge candidate right there. He has alot of experience in senshukentaikai and acted very fairly.




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dominicankid098 05-09-2005 12:12 PM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]DAN HIBIKI, you're above shuko (nantuko joe) on my list, i mean you never really said anything bad about me, as in i didn't knew anything. surely you disagreed with me and that i like. it prooves you got an opinion on the matter which is something everyone should have.

but some people are simply thinking they know so much and they actually flame you because they think you think you know much more thne them so they have to argu and change the thing into a flaming contest. i might be like a mule and never change my views even if youg ot good arguments but it doesn't mean i dislike your views or even disregarded it. fact is i'm always open to suggestions, idea's and opinions. i mean the other way wouldn't tell me anything in life and that wouldn't be too good for a person.

anyway back to the forum itself... we're speaking the mods and admins actually, about the probability that we need be more strict because we weren't toomuch for now, but there are a few things that came out right now, we got too much job on our hands and eluding a new NWO wouldn't probably cut it since we have problem choosing between members. so we might speak of getting this forum back to its old state where only SFO related threads could exists !

i know it might seems cruel and non-sens... but the fact is we know how much flame, stupid threads in wrong sections and dissing about how we shouldn't have done that would actually come our ways. but we're pretty sure that if they are all in the same sections, we can deal with them knowing how much mods we are !

anyway... the past might never be our future, but it sbetter to use it as it hapenned and by it we shall reforge our forum the way it was meant to be. we just need to decide what's best for the community and i know much of you guys wants it with more control. the others who say we are too strict probably don't know what hapenned these last months and probably never noticed how much people have freedom of flaming and dissing others without getting any warnings or bans !

i think it would be better to have strickly SFO related topics then having a lot of non-SFO topics all in 3 different places, places which are never truly moderated cause of the endless stupidities that goes on in there !

let's be realistic, topics like "WHO ARE YOUR BEST MATCHES" compared to "THIS VERSUS THIS" threads are like way better to read.
that's where we stand and that's something we should have done a long time ago.
i know subjects and topics are hard to find. but if it stays SFO related it might become good.

as i said though, we are still int he discussion phase, but i think telling you we wish to change things around here is better then wait till its already too late, this way it makes our changes a bit more easier since we know what our members will think about the so called changes !
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Sorry for double posting. I agree with everything Karma had said completely. Good job for the nwo/admin team on finding an answer to all this flaming. It is about time. You people should start taking actions in the release of DWX. That way, everyone would be more involved with DWX.

asshole 05-09-2005 12:17 PM

Necro: Go die holmes. You ain't takin my R.I away from me! Atleast I hoPe you wouldn't.. ;[!

Dan Hibiki: Fk this yo, if this homie becomes a Mod, that'd just be unfair to half of tha world! Or something more Dramatic like this!


And Karma, let me ask you one thing. Did you make this because you WANTED RESPECT, or did you make this becasue you wanted to clear some of this useless ish from here?
Like i've said before man, no one is actually DISOBEYING any BIG rules, or makin' a big deal out of anything that should affect anyone in a big way! So why tha hell are you runnin' around trying to clean uP tha Place!? And if you actually DO think that this Place is dirty and needs cleaning, then why don't you worry about tha other sections that NEED Moderating? Tha "Non-SFO Sections" didn't even have Moderators or Admins, until I got in a big fight with lefty about that! They DEFINETLY are tha least cared sections fromt ha Admins, so why you makin' a big deal out of we act in THIS Part of tha forum?

Truly.. what I think is that.. you are a Proud Moderator, and you want to be resPected like one too. When you come to sections such as R.I, and no one resPects you, you get Pissed off like a bad villian and start whining.
That's exactly what I... think!

asshole 05-09-2005 12:21 PM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]DAN HIBIKI, you're above shuko (nantuko joe) on my list, i mean you never really said anything bad about me, as in i didn't knew anything. surely you disagreed with me and that i like. it prooves you got an opinion on the matter which is something everyone should have.[/quote]
NOT SORRY for double Posting, and see Karma?
That's EXACTLY what tha fk i'm talkin about!
OH WOW.. I should've read your Post before I Posted mine to Prove ya!

Virtual Fighter 05-09-2005 12:30 PM

Karma: The reason we don't respect you is because half the time you're calling us flamers and the other half you're debating right along with us, yet don't lable yourself a flamer, and when you're not doing that you're contredicting yourself, and when you're not doing that you're not getting that:

You need to earn respect, not deserve it.

I don't respect alot of political figures because they havn't done anything to earn it from me. Just because you're in a position of power doesn't deam you anything.


Second, I say give these sectionsmods which actually go to these sections.

It's like when britain conquered africa. They had the british be there, set up their government and have them run it their selves.
Things later fell apart because it was a fliped up situtation to begin with, but that's becideds the point.

Point of story, you can't run a system of people which you have no idea how they work. Give a special mod position to someone who is familiar with RI, familiar with this section, familiar with the GFX section (Even though digital~fighter promised it to me and hasn't delivered yet), and possibly someonoen who is familiar with the links.

That's why the britisih system of coloniaslism was so successful.

iTALY 05-09-2005 12:32 PM

Asshole is right..

Instead of demanding respect, Karma, try earning it.

Many of the current NWO's are respected because they earned our respect.


VF: What's the code for your font colour?




Edited By iTALY on 1115667351

Virtual Fighter 05-09-2005 12:39 PM

#961309 put into the control panel color setting.

Necro2k2 05-09-2005 01:31 PM

[color=#000000]Apparently Mr.Karma just want's some respect. Okay, let's see from past expirence how normal members gained respect. Here's a guy who's respected till this day, and for what? For being a champion in the very game we used to call "

Dan Hibiki 05-09-2005 01:33 PM

[quote:post_uid0="asshole"]Dan Hibiki: Fk this yo, if this homie becomes a Mod, that'd just be unfair to half of tha world! Or something more Dramatic like this![/quote]
Um, why would that be unfair for me to become mod? I've been around a long time, I'm respected, and I'm typically nice, and I was fair when I was an admin on Senshuk. Certainly, I made the organized insanity section on Senshuk (which was quickly removed after it became apparent it wasn't wanted), but we all make mistakes.

It was just an offer, anyways... I don't know TMyApp that well, so I doubt that it will actually happen.




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Necro2k2 05-09-2005 01:38 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]Um, why would that be unfair for me to become mod? I've been around a long time, I'm respected, and I'm typically nice, and I was fair when I was an admin on Senshuk. Certainly, I made the organized insanity section on Senshuk (which was quickly removed after it became apparent it wasn't wanted), but we all make mistakes.

It was just an offer, anyways... I don't know TMyApp that well, so I doubt that it will actually happen.[/quote]
I like you as much as the next guy but I see you as the type that'll be like the rest of the moderators, inactive. How many time's a day do you play sfo? I don't think we need another moderator who's just gonna sit around and play with the forum all day. With all due respect, I simply don't see how you qualify. Don't get me wrong your one of the best admins I've seen when it comes to "forumage" but your just not going to cut it in the game.




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Dan Hibiki 05-09-2005 01:44 PM

Now that I have a PC around that CAN play SFO, I'll be on daily. I wasn't before because my PC only averages 3.333 frames per second in the game. In fact, I'm getting on to the game now, so if you want to chat with me, log on. I'm DanHibiki on there.

Edit: for some reason, my IE can't get to www.streetfighteronline.com right now, so I can't get onto the game. Perhaps later today then.




Edited By Dan Hibiki on 1115671683

Necro2k2 05-09-2005 01:48 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Dan Hibiki"]Edit: for some reason, my IE can't get to www.streetfighteronline.com right now, so I can't get onto the game. Perhaps later today then.[/quote]
Lol, that's so ironic, I'll take your word for it.

Saijin_Ryu 05-09-2005 02:21 PM

Woah, this place has really gone to the sh1ts.

*Wonders why he's even posting here again*

This place is being built up to much, GAME forums are meant to be a hell more relaxed then this. But theirs alot of moronic people trying to order everything when the forum hits a slump it usually sorts itself out.

Anyway, enjoy the pointlessness here. Oh and if anyone plays CSS that knows me, give me a PM and i'll get back to you.

Abdoun_bacK 05-09-2005 02:55 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Saijin_Ryu"]Woah, this place has really gone to the sh1ts.[/quote]
but havnt you noticed all the vets are comming back

Dan Hibiki 05-09-2005 03:59 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Saijin_Ryu"]But theirs alot of moronic people trying to order everything when the forum hits a slump it usually sorts itself out.[/quote]
Senshukentaikai never sorted itself out.

KidKrazyShit 05-09-2005 04:38 PM

[quote:post_uid0="Dan Hibiki"][quote:post_uid0="Saijin_Ryu"]But theirs alot of moronic people trying to order everything when the forum hits a slump it usually sorts itself out.[/quote]
Senshukentaikai never sorted itself out.
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man speaks the truth.

EvilAkuma 05-09-2005 06:09 PM

[color=#000080:post_uid6]I respect you SSJKarma. Look at you, working to get this place up and running like old times. I bet you, if the Admin Staff didn't add more section, then all people that shows off GFX, make threads games and other things that doesn't relate to sfo. They wouldn't be here or post often. They would just make tournament or post problem on sfo. I'll just use 1 as an example, VF i have yet to see you post anything that related to sfo. I mean, you post only at GFX section, R.I, Links, and General (doesn't relate to sfo). It apply to all people that yet have posted above the general (doesn't relate to sfo). I might be wrong, but i yet haven't seen a post about on section that relate to SFO. (Don't get mad if I use you).

So many people just comes to bitch over here cuz there not getting what they want. How hard is it to go read the rules and obey them. So easy to follow, I yet don't see them hard to follow. I respect MOD/Admin/NWO/VIP/Member/####z (if you seen me in sfo bitching at ya. Just to play around with ya so ya can pump up ur anger and release it on me. :biggrin: )

Some people don't obey the rules when there made. And yet, you breaken them and you haven't gotten in trouble. Once Warmor made that thread about advertising forum. Some member still posted and link to there forum. I even like the update Warmor made about "what ur excuse". You have time to read our post, but you got no time to read rules. :dozingoff:

I know that we all can't get along. But I'm part of a family like SSJKarma and other member that consider this as family of SFO. When I heard about this place getting shut down. I didn't know what to do. Till TMyApp link us to here. This is when I become a family

So that all I have to say.

Keep up the work SSJ getting it like OLD SKOOLS[/color:post_uid6]

blanka09 05-09-2005 06:11 PM

I've lost track of the purpose of this topic.

dominicankid098 05-09-2005 06:20 PM

Man the pacers better win. I hate detroit.

Oh and about this subject, I really don't care anymore. I don't see you doing anything SSJ. I am planning out my tournament which I will email soon to tmyapp. I remember a time TarkanX told me I am not capable of running a tournament like Zing79's tournament, by myself. Time to prove him wrong. That will be my 2 cents in contributing to the forum and game.

What are your 2 cents? Even VF contributed more than you have with his "SFO CLASSIC" tournament.

EvilAkuma 05-09-2005 06:20 PM

The topic is that he's tire of people bitching about sfo. Saying SFO is gay, people flamming, complaining about rules. Also, If you don't like this place, then he want them to leave, because he doesn't want to leave. Also he believe that he's not getting respect. Which i respect just like TMyApp respect him and other MOD/Admin/NWO

Virtual Fighter 05-09-2005 06:31 PM

[quote:post_uid0="dominicankid098"]Man the pacers better win. I hate detroit.

Oh and about this subject, I really don't care anymore. I don't see you doing anything SSJ. I am planning out my tournament which I will email soon to tmyapp. I remember a time TarkanX told me I am not capable of running a tournament like Zing79's tournament, by myself. Time to prove him wrong. That will be my 2 cents in contributing to the forum and game.

What are your 2 cents? Even VF contributed more than you have with his "SFO CLASSIC" tournament.
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I made like 3, master of fists 1 and 2 and SFO classics.

Mind you I had no idea what I was doing.

:alien:

Abdoun_bacK 05-09-2005 06:49 PM

[quote:post_uid0="blanka09"]I've lost track of the purpose of this topic.[/quote]
sorry...but.....LOL

Virtual Fighter 05-09-2005 07:24 PM

[quote:post_uid0="EvilAkuma"][/quote]
You're all a bunch of sheep. Bahhhh.

marvel911 05-09-2005 08:20 PM

Wait, what?

asshole 05-09-2005 08:35 PM

[quote:post_uid0="blanka09"]I've lost track of the purpose of this topic.[/quote]
Then.. read my Posts.

Yo Karma, where you at man?
I said somethign to you on Page 5, get back at me!

blanka09 05-09-2005 08:56 PM

You don't get me.. I AM reading... but what everyone is saying right now isn't WHY our friend Karma started this topic.

asshole 05-09-2005 09:16 PM

Damn fool.. that's why I asked him that!
GRR!
NO READING!

blanka09 05-09-2005 09:26 PM

aaah... respect ?? .. is that what you're referring me to ??

Restavega 05-09-2005 09:46 PM

All the Vets appear to be coming back because of DWX.

It seems Counter Strike has alot of the vets whipped, to say the least. I mean... not setting much of an example as a vet to run off until an exciting event comes along... that's to say the game isn't exciting enough day to day for them. Tsk tsk...

btw, one more reason this forum has gone down hill is too many times mods throw in their two cents in a topic and lock it so they have the last word to keep from being outspoken by another member... for example Blanka09 who does it more often then any other mod. That is a most childish thing to do especially on a forum where every member's opinion counts. To throw in the last word and to lock the topic is the easy way out. It's like the mods putting their hands over their ears and going "BLAH BLAH BLAH BLAH!! I CANT HEAR YOU! BLAH BLAH BLAH!" Childish indeed.

and also, too many times Mods "pair up" with their favorite members and you can see the biast behavior. What one person will be banned for another will do daily. This forum lacks fairness.




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blanka09 05-09-2005 10:52 PM

See... I personally hate to get into personal altercations over things that really don't matter. What happened in the topic I locked was simple. You reared ur head there for no apparent reason but trouble... and his case would be settled. The fact remains that you and Nferno666 had a game and you cheaped him out. Like every other normal player he confronted you about ur methods.. and you started with the noble act on him.

Fortunately or unfortunately, the only mod/admin that LIKED you then was now against you, and now every chance you get to "hit and run" you take. If you hate the system so much, why even BOTHER to be here ?? It's alarming that most of you complain about everything going downhill, yet not a day freaking passes by without you going to ur browser to type http://www.streetfighteronline.com and now you're forcing me to reply here with words I do NOT wish to post.

I beg of you, do NOT start any other crap... cause I know you're talking about Saijin_Ryu who came back here to reply for to the Maximumspider.com topic and happened to see this topic, and gave his 4 and a half cents. Now you come here to make degrading remarks to him and then he'll come back and then we'll all go into a flame war.. and then we'll close the topic... and then they'll all sayyy.. oh looky the mods are closing the topics and saying Blah blah ... I "cant" hear you.

The fact that I don't even see the reason to post in this topic, makes me more annoyed at the fact that I have to reply because of some thoughtless post. If you had another opinion in the topic THAT I closed because it states in the rules of the forum, that the mods can CLOSE any topic they see fit; why not be a man and state ur opinion asking me to let you post.. THEN come here and judge me like a maggot.

Do you even know why we have mods/admins in this forum ?? They're there so that we can have "order" in the forum. Order that we certainly lack due to our lacklustre attitude to strict punishment... but to let things slide here and there. As a result topics like these resulting into unwanted stupidity.

The role of making the forum as a whole more livier, is the job of the WHOLE forum, not just the administration. Not once... NOT ONCE has any user sent us a private message suggesting on how to make the forum "better". Abdoun_BacK sent us a message on something to spice up the game... but we haven't even come to a conlcusion to make it official... however, all we get is "OMG THIS USER SHOULD BE BANNED.. HE DID THIS or THAT".

And now you expect us to perform magic ?? ... *sigh* ... you go find out what you can do for the community and quit looking for what the community can do for you!

I pray that God would make this the last time I make myself dabble into topics/scenarios/situations like these; for if not for the tons of things I have to do, kicking ppl out of the servers for nothing (I'm j/k... for something wrong; before another topic rears its ugly head about mods kicking "wrongly" out of servers :biggrin: ) is another thing I could spend my time doing... rather than argueing fruitlessly.

Good night.




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dominicankid098 05-09-2005 11:01 PM

Everyone leave poor wittle blanka alone. Stop picking on him! =)

blanka09 05-09-2005 11:03 PM

I know .. =( ... wait.. that's not right... heeeey!! YOU PHATHEAD!

dominicankid098 05-09-2005 11:06 PM

And I quote:

Quote:

I pray that God would make this the last time I make myself dabble into topics/scenarios/situations like these
Haha, look who came back. =)

blanka09 05-09-2005 11:08 PM

What's happening between you and I is purely random and fictional. In english, it never really happened :biggrin:

Restavega 05-10-2005 08:37 AM

[quote:post_uid0="blanka09"]See... I personally hate to get into personal altercations over things that really don't matter. What happened in the topic I locked was simple. You reared ur head there for no apparent reason but trouble... and his case would be settled. The fact remains that you and Nferno666 had a game and you cheaped him out. Like every other normal player he confronted you about ur methods.. and you started with the noble act on him.

Fortunately or unfortunately, the only mod/admin that LIKED you then was now against you, and now every chance you get to "hit and run" you take. If you hate the system so much, why even BOTHER to be here ?? It's alarming that most of you complain about everything going downhill, yet not a day freaking passes by without you going to ur browser to type http://www.streetfighteronline.com and now you're forcing me to reply here with words I do NOT wish to post.

I beg of you, do NOT start any other crap... cause I know you're talking about Saijin_Ryu who came back here to reply for to the Maximumspider.com topic and happened to see this topic, and gave his 4 and a half cents. Now you come here to make degrading remarks to him and then he'll come back and then we'll all go into a flame war.. and then we'll close the topic... and then they'll all sayyy.. oh looky the mods are closing the topics and saying Blah blah ... I "cant" hear you.

The fact that I don't even see the reason to post in this topic, makes me more annoyed at the fact that I have to reply because of some thoughtless post. If you had another opinion in the topic THAT I closed because it states in the rules of the forum, that the mods can CLOSE any topic they see fit; why not be a man and state ur opinion asking me to let you post.. THEN come here and judge me like a maggot.

Do you even know why we have mods/admins in this forum ?? They're there so that we can have "order" in the forum. Order that we certainly lack due to our lacklustre attitude to strict punishment... but to let things slide here and there. As a result topics like these resulting into unwanted stupidity.

The role of making the forum as a whole more livier, is the job of the WHOLE forum, not just the administration. Not once... NOT ONCE has any user sent us a private message suggesting on how to make the forum "better". Abdoun_BacK sent us a message on something to spice up the game... but we haven't even come to a conlcusion to make it official... however, all we get is "OMG THIS USER SHOULD BE BANNED.. HE DID THIS or THAT".

And now you expect us to perform magic ?? ... *sigh* ... you go find out what you can do for the community and quit looking for what the community can do for you!

I pray that God would make this the last time I make myself dabble into topics/scenarios/situations like these; for if not for the tons of things I have to do, kicking ppl out of the servers for nothing (I'm j/k... for something wrong; before another topic rears its ugly head about mods kicking "wrongly" out of servers :biggrin: ) is another thing I could spend my time doing... rather than argueing fruitlessly.

Good night.
[/quote]
First of all, I never said I hate the system. I said I dislike the administration but don't consider yourselves the system. So please, don't put words in my mouth.

Secondly, no one is forcing you to post here. You are forcing yourself to post here, Blanka. How many more times are you gonna say "I don't wanna post here/I'm never posting here again/I don't wanna do this but". The act is old already and it is clear you do wish to post here and you will post here again (call me a psychic).

And what I said about Saijin Ryu I saw the same instance with another vet. When Saijin brought up how if anyone wants to join him in Counter Strike to PM him, I immediately remembered another vet who quit on the SFO community to play just that very game who is suddenly popping up for the event as well. So, it wasn't a personal attack but a general presence I was pointing out.

In the Xtremedark topic in the General section here the fact is whether my Akuma strategy is credited or not, Nferno will do something in a fit of rage when it comes to losing. I didn't use any glitch to beat him therefore the only reason he had to shun me from his SFO tech support was to losing - not a glitch. Only this time he has the glitch as his excuse for going bonkers on Xtremedark. I mean, can I beat Nferno and not give him a rematch when he wants one without any repercussions? People were suggesting that he wouldn't do such a thing to Xtremedark based on losing so I posted what happened to me by Nferno to show what he is capable of. But instead of snapping at LocalMotion for pulling the topic offtopic you bark at me, Blanka09, when I was posting signifigant facts. This is how I know you're onesided Blanka and you have poor judgement... and when someone with poor judgement is in control somewhat that can bring down the morale of a forum. You're an example of the problems this forum endures.

"I pray that God would make this the last time I make myself dabble into topics/scenarios/situations like these" -Blanka09

I pray you will make this the last time you dabble in topics like these and I also pray you don't repeat the same phrase again and again... but that in itself would be a waste of time.

dominicankid098 05-10-2005 09:48 AM

Man, someone close this topic. People go way off topic all of a sudden talking about SFO strategies, and questioning someone rights as a mod.

Like it or not, this is how TMyApp run things. And there are reasons for that. If you don't like how things are ran here, then don't come here. No one is forcing you to come to this forum nor are you paying anything to be here. It is topics like these that makes everything moderated the way they are. And it is topic like these that will be the reason why these sections get deleted.

blanka09 05-10-2005 09:59 AM

Aye ^^^

And weighing the situation, I would have to sayy, I shouldn't have even replied back then. The reason I replied was based on currect emotion status.. and the need to "fight back" when picked on. Should have listened to my master :biggrin:

Anyway, I've come to realize the hard way that the more sense you try to make out of an unnecessary necessities (I know.. sounds wierd, but work with me :biggrin: ) ... the more unrealistic, those who argue with you, would make their impending cases seem... thus, one must look to himself and note that "the more wrong you find in the other man, the more you should look inwardly and correct the "right" you see in yourself ." (got that from a Buddhist monk)

And LancerPX, SSJKarma opened the topic, I can close it... but I'd like for him to do it by himself... since we've all strayed from what he wanted to say "which.. was the bottom line of his mind" ... quite wierd... but nevertheless ... that's why we're at this make shift status quo.

We would definitely not reach a standing conclusion... but one can get a quote from George Frederick Handel, that if all doesn't stand well, "... He shall reign forever and ever" :biggrin:




Edited By blanka09 on 1115744460

Dark_Paladin_X 05-10-2005 10:11 AM

[quote:post_uid0="dominicankid098"]Man, someone close this topic. People go way off topic all of a sudden talking about SFO strategies, and questioning someone rights as a mod.

Like it or not, this is how TMyApp run things. And there are reasons for that. If you don't like how things are ran here, then don't come here. No one is forcing you to come to this forum nor are you paying anything to be here. It is topics like these that makes everything moderated the way they are. And it is topic like these that will be the reason why these sections get deleted.
[/quote]
(this is probably not necesary)

this guy is right. I fully lost track of what we're suppose to be taling about. I see off-topic stuff, flamming, discussing things that have nothing to do with the matter.

But yes, when SSJ gets here, he should close it.


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