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estset 12-17-2004 05:23 AM

I don't mind about Rogue,Blanka,Sagat, beacuse they isn't cheap but the mostly Venom and Omega Red they are cheap so.
I like to get both them tweaked :D And also Venom is very good when you use Varible beacuse he use death bite and also in 1on1 with ryu is so strong :D Yea it good idea for tweak the Venom and Omega Red :D I hope we not getting any cheap helper lol.

avilancer 12-18-2004 08:54 AM

.... i think they are fine... as said before their helth bars are ur power bars witch makes perfect sense.... so in essencethey can "die" or run out of helth when u run out of power... i personallt think they ar all ok they each have their strengths and their weaknesses sure spidey and venom own but u can own them with the old guile helper.. i mean its really just a matter of how u play and ifur good or not i mean estset ur always one of the best with the right staragie i know u can kick some ones ass who is using TLF helpers can u not?


welll none the less also as mentioned before if yougive them helth bars just go the whole 9 yardsd and finish the character and make them playable.... as stated in another thread they do have all or most of the neessassssaryyyy (lol :p ) animations and sprites to do all the movments ie. jump duck walk run ect.... so giving them helth is really making 5 more playable characters is it not????

luigibyluigi(ot) 12-18-2004 10:09 AM

Lol. I mean the TLF helpers where kinda a x-mas present from tmy only a little early. Even though it's not our real x-mas present i mean why give them health bars.

SSJKarma 12-18-2004 10:36 AM

Ok, some of you just didn't understand the point of this...

it is not about making them playable or not, nor is it about the fact that you think they are fine or not !
it is a baout the fact that one guy could just go HADOKEN HADOKEN HADOKEN HADOKEN all the time replenishing his energy bars and throwing you VENOM or any TLF helpers right away and keep it almost all the round in play so you cannot do any super for you're gonna get kicked out of it by the TLF which just go thru everything.

even if you throw an helper, what can you do, for the guy still has control of the tlf helper which still kicks your butt !

thus you been defeated right in the start unless you take an helper which can simply kill them all by himself which currently are only the TLF helpers !

see, there is clearly something wrong !
i say come on, at least tweak them down a bit, because the normal helpers are becoming useless so why still having them around ?

based on personnal experience, i normally rocked with sentinel and i'm starting to try other chars as well !
i won a lot before the TLF, the new guile was whacked yet i could still play and deal with it.
same goes for CODY. but now that TLF is here, i been cornered to death and the only thing i could was throw in helpers to try and get out, only to get thrown back in because the TLF was still there kicking my butt !

sorry but when a player like me plays for the fun of it and cannot have fun in all because he is stuck there and gotten a simple normal helper like juggy or hulk which both cannot be summoned more then 3 or 4 times. sorry but we are out of luck !

and you are telling me to go away turn around and just stop playing cause you want the game to stay this way ?
sorry, the fun factor is all that matter to me winning or not, but when you can't win at all reguarldess of what i do is just not fun at all ! and i'm sure i'm not the only one to think this way !

think what you want, but if to win i gotta rely on TLF helpers, i rather not play at all !

luigibyluigi(ot) 12-18-2004 10:48 AM

I play with normal helpers and they do me fine. All you have to do is find a way to stomp out TLF helpers. Like me if a TLF was kicking my ass I would send out my helper and do a super on the other guy while normal helpers and charecters are working together. I know how you feel. Those TLF helpers need a down-grade :angry: !!!

SBYRD5 12-18-2004 10:50 AM

SSJKarma super jumping will become your friend.

9 times out of 10 karma...

When someone uses there TLF helper they don't guard there back side very well...

Sense I use Ryu and spidey it's not very bothersome...

I'll just super jump come from behind with a super uppercut leaving that person tight faced...

Normal Sentinal has a ruff time against TLF helpers I wont lie...

You have to go all out for a win.

Karma I guess it's because I've been playing so long...but I do agree with this view..

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Certian helpers need more of an advantage to counter TLF.

I mean Sakura..only has 3....if you get sakura...lol
Hulk..4...juggernant..5.....Dr.Doom..3...=/

THese helpers need to be increased.....by 2 helpers each...

Captian america..and physlocke....need to up grade to 5 and 6..as well..

Then everything will be about fair...

Zerocloud 12-18-2004 01:59 PM

yah

fussion 12-18-2004 02:11 PM

lol there not thT GREAT. only 1 steatgey is good for them. they waste ur energy like crazy.

~Mastermax~ 12-18-2004 06:50 PM

well being that i can't use tlf helpers to a good effect (due to my lag cuasing a major shortage in power leveling), and ryu n00bs got a huge upgrade (as they do every update now it seems) i just gotta say flip tlf helpers, i mean yeah they are cool, but they are just cheap!

all people do is use venom and just hadoken and venom stops you from geting anywhere, which never seems to lower they're damn bar. and i always use up my juggernoughts just to get rid of them, even though they have a large amount.


so this idea sounds good, and they should have a less number ofuses...




Edited By ~Mastermax~ on 1103424676

mastergrim8 12-18-2004 07:29 PM

tlf was pretty useless for most vip's and a normal weapon


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