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marvel911 11-13-2003 02:34 PM

Well from the ways I sees it, this is about Nintendo, NES..and Sega..Genesis. I use those systems because everything else after genesis as sucked..last good nintendo thing was N64..but whatever. I have always seen Nintendo to have much better games then any Sega console..the only good thing sega had was sonic..and that can only get you so far.

SSJKarma 11-13-2003 09:55 PM

** DREAMCAST **
VIRTUA COPS
VIRTUA FIGHTERS 3TB
marve| VS CAPCOM 1 & 2
SOUL CALIBUR
DOA 2 LE
IKARUGA
PSYCHIC FORCE 2010
FIGHTING FORCE 2
FIGHTING VIPERS 2
let's see what else do i have on my DC...
POWER STONE 2 (yeah the first one sucked, except for story mode)
18 WHEELER
SKIES OF ARCADIA
SILVER
EVOLUTION 1 & 2
GRANDIA 2
TETRIS THE NEXT LEVEL
JET SET RADIO (AKA JET GRIND RADIO IN USA)
PHANTASY STAR ONLINE V2
HOUSE OF THE DEAD 2
TYPING OF THE DEAD (yes i actually like to play this one at school)

that's about all i can think of right now, and i can go on like this again for saturn if ya want !
contrary to what you believe nintendo failed the market with their N64 !
too late on games and technology compared tot he sony PSOne !
the dreamcast sold aound twice the number of N64 in one week-end then nintendo in two weeks with their N64 !
same for sony, why the console got so dramatised, mainly cause of the lack of games at the start. (i know its ridiculous, but people seems to think that ten games on launch day isn't enough to start a console !)

really, the games weren't the problem for any of the sega consoles !
it was mainly due to lack of interest and lack of programming capabilities ! the SATURN defeated all record as to be the most difficult system to develop for ! mainly due to its two GPU CPUs. but that didn't stop sega from making a big success out of the first console to ever get on internet with a 28.8 modem !

serisouly, i never really understood why sega got shut down by sony that way. sony never really had any console worth mentionning. sure the psx was good, but the DC was way better, so why has everyone got their DC, sold it to buy back their PSX ? that was a stupid move, tho sega should have advertised even more !

don't know what you played dude, but seriouslky none of the consoles i've seen up to now was stupid, maybe the very 64bit console called JAGUAR, but still some games there were damn good !

mainly TEMPEST 2000
anyway...

Ken-Po 11-14-2003 05:01 AM

Well if I had to vote I'd have to go waaaay back to '94.
I was 8 years old and my dad bought me my first nintendo for my birthday. I was immediately hooked on Super Mario World which I still play today just because its such a classic. Then I'd have to go back to the same year and remember how I played a Sega Genesis at my friends house for the first time. We played Sonic 2 which had a 2 player feature where you and your friend can go beat levels at the same time(one being sonic, one being milestails). To tell you the truth, the game Sonic owned super mario world in my opinion, with all the running and speed and intensity it owned mario world easily. The thing is though Nintendo made alot better games: Killer Instinct(Rare), Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Tournament Fighters(Konami), Donkey Kong1,2,3(Nintendo), Mortal Kombat 1,2,3(Midway) dont get me wrong these are just my childhood alltime favorites. But back then I looked at Sega as a "copycat" towards nintendo. They did copy allot of the games and the graphics didn't come out nearly as good as nintendos graphics. But in today's competition Sega in my opinion puts the nintendo Gamecube, and sony ps2 at shame. Just look at the fact that it was made waaaay before ps2 and gamecube. I can't brag that its beating the Xbox because it really isn't. I mean marve| vs capcom 2 came out to dreamcast way before it came to the ps2. I have a ps2,ps1,dreamcast and gamecube currently, but my favorite is still the dreamcast.
So its a tough call......
Oh I got it I'll just do past/present

Past:1992-1995=nintendo wins easily
1995-2001=Sega beats nintendos N64 with the best gaming console ever: The Dreamc@st
Pressence: 2003+ sony owns all but we're talkin bout sega and nintendo....so.....Sega owns nintendo even though I'm loyal to nintendo you have to look at the facts.

phew...thats a long post...i dont post this much usually..
peace! :buttrock:

Dreadlocks 11-14-2003 05:34 AM

You guys, there is not one person in this forum that does not know the classic Mushroom Kingdom song. Nintendo has alot of classic games (Metroids, Kirby Superstar, Super Mario All-Star) and has come up with clever ways to bring back their classic games and characters (hence the game Super Smash Bros Melee and the SNES games remakes on GBA) and has made games that are fun for everybody, not just teens or adults (you don't know how many times me and a bunch of friends played Mario Party for hours, that's a fun game) Nintendo is a classic, a classic that can't be replaced with these rookies console like Playstation and Xbox (I mean, Playstation was made by a radio company anyway, LOL) :laughlong: and if you don't believe me, Play Wind Waker or Wario World and see how much quality gameplay Nintendo has continued (and will continue) to make.

alamgir 11-14-2003 07:54 AM

The playstation isn't a rookie console! Who said anything about replacing it with anything its not like some of the best games didn't come out on playstation. When play station first came out all the other consoles were shadowed by it. The dreamcast cam out later but then came the ps2, xbox and gamecube, and sony a radio company? You call a computer a radio. And ken-po just becos games come out a long time ago it doesn't mean they were better, thats just an excuse. Anyway nuff said in this topic, in the end games were created for the sheer purpose of having fun and being entertained not to argue and compare. As long as ur having fun thats all that matters not how good the consolle is or how good the graphics are.

Ken-Po 11-14-2003 12:50 PM

True that True that, I wasn't stating a "fact" that just because some games have been out longer that makes them better then the current. I just posted my opinion and what my childhood favourites where and what i thought of sega and nintendo then. I think sega is better nowadays then nintendo but nintendo will always be my favorite and like I said in my last reply I still play the classics, mario world, killer instinct etc etc etc so that don't change my luv for nintendo
peace :buttrock:

SSJKarma 11-15-2003 12:16 AM

alamgir, i don't know who you're trying to convince dude, but clearly what you're saying is that because the games today are in 3D and hyper realistick they beats any old games any day !

that's just false dude, i'll show you SEIKEN DENSETSU 3 for the SNES and believe me, that game beats almost all other RPGS ont he playstations or even the 64 ! i'll go even deeper, it beats games from all 3 next gen consoles !

to the one saying sony owns all...
sony isn't owning any one up to now !
its the last console actually, xbox comes out first followed by nintendo then sony ! stay true kid, most games that are on PS2 can be easily recreated for any of the two other consoles, but you'll never see halo or any other xbox games be created for PS2, the consoles too weak to process them at full capacity !

beat it kid, the dreamcast even own the PS2 !
really all consoles have their pros and cons, all consoles have their great games, so no console deserves to get bashed at ! i would buy a PS2 because of its controller and some games only for it. i would buy a GC for its games that are only for it. but i would buy an xbox, just because its the one that gives us a future.

back then...
SEGA GENESIS vs SUPER FAMICOM (snes)
both had their own rules, you can't compare them both, they were both excellant bringing their own rules to this day !

the SNES was less powerfull CPU wise, but a lot more powerfull graphic wise !
which made th econsole number one for adventure and RPG games.

the genesis, was a lot more powerfull SPEED wise then graphically.
which brought us great action packed games and very good racing games !

overall, back then nintendo and sega brought us the enternement we needed. today, the consoles aren't for entertainments. their your lifes as they say it !

really who would want to buy a console that only plays games 399$ ? i sure don't, i'm not fool enough to buy games 40+ dollars for my pleasure, nor am i ready to pay 300+ doillars just to get a few hours of fun everyday !

i have a coputer that's all i needed to have my fun, other then that, i got friends, they don't come often, but when they come, we play outside and forget about all this.

sorry for getting out of subject, but agian, all consoles have their up and downs, but none deseves to get thrashed talked about just because you didn't like the company or some games that were on it !

11-15-2003 09:55 AM

[quote:post_uid0="SSJKarma"]first this war has been over ever since sega shut down their console creating department !

second that doesn't mean they are out fo the games competition which is highly volatile in itself !

third, nintendo doesn't sucks now a days, they are still one of th ebest company evere to produce games, its also the only company in the NEW CONSOLE market that has more then 15 years of existence.

fourth, sega makes great games, they had a very good console (dreamcast) which people seemed to overlook just because of the PS2 which basically does the very same as the dreamcast !

really, sega didn't sold anything to anyone dudes !
SONIC TEAM is still a departement of the sega company.
nintendo justr happen to be the only one to actually buy rights to remake DC games like PHANTASY STAR ONLINE for GAMECUBE and IKARUGA as well as the SONIC GAMES ! that's all.

on their web site, sega tells it straight to the people. they sell their games for all 3 consoles, not just one, all three including the computers which brings that umber to 4 type of machine !

so i don't know why you say the war still goes on, cause its far from going on, the war between those two companies ended with the arrival of SONY !

EDIT
may i also suggest you don't say nintendo sucks cause of their games, cause mainly the nin games aren't made by nintendo themselves ! there's so few games that are nintendo made in this, so don't place the blame ont hem for that, same goes for sega.

ever heard of third party company ?
like konami, squaresoft, rare... capcom and SNK as well !
after all they are the ones making games, not nintendo ![/quote]
you took the words right out of my mouth.

ledmonkey 11-15-2003 01:19 PM

I never liked nintendo that much....An I really don't think the Gamecube is competing as much with Ps2 or XBox. The gamecube now......its more ment for younger kids I think and not teens. Xbox and Ps2 have games like halo and Grand Theft Auto that you wont find on gamecube. Sure theres a couple like resident evil but...mostly games like wario world....you know, E for Everyone. I never had a problem with any of the sega systems I've played. Plus I like the games they're still making, like the ESPN sport games series. I'll vote Sega.

SSJKarma 11-15-2003 09:02 PM

ok, that is just plain stupid to say, as like all games for a console, many titles happen to be about the mascot of the company, but so has the PS2, the only company that doesn't have mascots right now is the xbox, still they all 3 consoles have the same amount of title that are for younger childs !

fact, go on GAMEFAQS.com and look at the many titles of the games there, you'll see that nintendo as a lot of games that aren't for childrens. they have like half their game for childs, and half for older teens.

same goes for xbox and ps2, after all, you'll never see a games 18+, cause consoles aren't made for adults, but for childrens and teenagers alike !

but seriousouly, there are tons of games on GC that deserves to be reconized, and just because its nintendo, people say its a childish console which its really not !

people gotta think of it, how many buttons are used to play an ELMO game ? really try that, bring crash bandicoot to your 6 year old brother and ask him to play, believe me, he will have so much troublkes playing that its gonna make you laught very hard, serousouly, consoles aren't for children anymore, not ever since they got so much buttons on the gamepad !


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