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XtremetheZealot
12-06-2002, 02:04 PM
It is useless. It looks cool and all, and has a cool name. But it is pretty useless. There's 2 things I think should be done.

Make the life regenerated more.

AND

Make logan invincible while he does it.

The other characters hypers both have their usefullness in their situation.

However, there isn't a single situation where Killer Instinct has more priority over BBX. In fact, KI has 0 priority ALL the time. It's just plain useless.

I'm sorry if I sound like I'm hating on it. But no one seriously uses it. It just needs to be improved to "someone will actually consider using it"

pip99
12-06-2002, 02:56 PM
its useless..chun li sucks now.. :angryfire:

ssj2trunks52
12-06-2002, 07:32 PM
man shut up with all you bitchin...

Tmy is working hard for us

he is not flippin microsoft

TMyApp
12-07-2002, 07:28 AM
lol

well... EVERYONE bitched how Li was giving TOO much damage.. so.. "fine, here u go" ... and now the OTHER people are bitching (what can i say) :biggrin:

Li still does quite a bit of damage though... as for Logan's "killer instinct" (is that the actual name or someting that warmor just made up ?? ) ... it aint' prefect... but if it was tweaked to give MORE health (or have dif priority)... Logan might become a bit more cheap...

i dont know... we'll see what happens in the next build :biggrin:

XtremetheZealot
12-07-2002, 08:40 AM
Well, I for one thought that Chun Li was fine the way she is.

I'm not trying to make it into a cheap move, just a move that will actually be used.

I don't think it's the actual name. The name doesn't really go with what it is.

Ahh well, here's hoping.

akuma_forever
12-07-2002, 04:46 PM
lol

well... EVERYONE bitched how Li was giving TOO much damage.. so.. "fine, here u go" ... and now the OTHER people are bitching (what can i say) :biggrin:

Li still does quite a bit of damage though... as for Logan's "killer instinct" (is that the actual name or someting that warmor just made up ?? ) ... it aint' prefect... but if it was tweaked to give MORE health (or have dif priority)... Logan might become a bit more cheap...

i dont know... we'll see what happens in the next build :biggrin:
yeah,he's cheap enough already....

XtremetheZealot
12-07-2002, 06:43 PM
He's not cheap to me. Well, I use him, but I mainly use BB and BBX.

How can someone with NO projectile attack whatsoever can be as cheap as you're making him out to be?

ssj2trunks52
12-07-2002, 06:47 PM
trust me HE CAN BE!

Jhteck29
12-07-2002, 06:59 PM
whoa, Killer Instinct isn't useless, and it sure has priority everytime over BBX for me. Think about it, if you do a BBX when there's lag (which is always), the health takes a while to occur, but KI instantly gives you health. its the ultimate "use lag to your advantage move"!

DX Zero
12-08-2002, 12:21 AM
hmm why not make that move HIT opponents AND heal..
like if they try to hit with a regular attack then they get hurt.. or fly far away ?

and TMy chunli is alot better now :D

nosoul4evr
12-08-2002, 03:06 AM
When Wolverine was first installed if you used "Killer Instinct" Logan would regenerate 8% of his health.

At that time, 8% health was WAY to much. So TMy tweeked it down to 5% health regenerated when you used "Killer Instinct". At that time 5% was "just about right". (his only rival was Ryu)

Currently we have ALOT more characters and helpers in the game. All of wich have been pretty well fleshed out.

Yet I must agree that Wolverines "Killer Instinct" is not up to par with todays enviorment.

Maybe TMyApp could boost it back up to 8% and see's what happens.
3% can have a dramatic effect on Wolverine though.
It could make him unbeleivably powerfull , and create an imbalance in the game...especialy combining it with any/all issues that are currently plaqueing Logan.

However I have notice that when I preform the "killer instinct"...any life that Logan regenerated...was quickly taken way by my opponet, as soon as Logan finished preforming the act....hence me trying to do the move was useless....and was realy nothing more than a realy cool looking taunt...so an extra 3% shouldnt prove to be a problem. (8% is the actual amount of life regenerated from the orginal version of the game.)

pip99
12-08-2002, 05:08 AM
no dx chun li is weak ryu is more powerfull than chun li....... ??? ryu should b weaker his kick kills everythink..................the only reason people complained was cause ryu user cant take chun li......

Kingryu1
12-08-2002, 05:12 AM
when i used to play with wolvie ( i was actully QUITE good with him :D ) i used killer instinct. and as soon as i did it. the opponent used a super. and that took off the killer instinct health along with my other health. so using it was a complete waste of energy.

mooo1
12-08-2002, 11:13 AM
beleive me, we are lucky wolverine can even regenerate health! He has a big advantage over the other charatcers. If your health is almost down, and so is the other guy's, you can get some more health back and beat him before he beats you, cause you got more health than him.

DX Zero
12-08-2002, 02:23 PM
hmmm i got a new idea TMy...
why not enable Wovly to move around during his regeneration.. like in msh.. (i think u know)
characters can (pose for a sec.) and regenerate while moving around

pip: chunli is just right, i still get beat by (one of the best) chun li user, but when i use her i was able to last a long fight against an average player and won

... oh yeah one thing about wolvy.. his bbx chips alot of health.. when u block a variable attack wolvy and his partner does 3 (or more) specials and ur dead..

pip99
12-11-2002, 03:24 AM
im a chun li user and now she sucks so i use sentinel adn wolve aswell

XtremetheZealot
12-11-2002, 02:06 PM
Jaims: KI doesn't instantly give your health, and you are only invincible for part of it. Also, when your opponent sees you doing, they are going to start a hyper right away or are gonna get ready to do their most massive combo on you, and there's no way you can block it coming out of KI. Lag doesn't do anything to help it, if they're doing a hyper, and you're coming out of KI, you WILL be hurt. Damage done to you is in realtime, but damage to your opponent only works if the move connected on both computers.

So, in other words, you've gained that 5%, but you're going to lose a whopping 35% or the entire game, as soon as it finishes, so KI does not pay off.

moo1: No, it's not an advantage. Like I mentioned above to Jaims, your opponent will make you hurt as soon as the KI finishes because you're totally vulnerable during a part of it.

Maybe increase it by a % or 2. And if not, let Logan be invincible for the whole thing, so at least he can make KI worth his while.

darkmasterX
12-11-2002, 03:07 PM
yea i am also a chun li user its not that much differnet but as for wolvie he is cheap his super should be put down not chun lis