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Gokan
01-18-2003, 12:58 PM
firsty guile is too slow when he apears. I was hit by a shinkuu i called 4 guile and by the time he did his attack i was dead the first time and the second time the shinkuu was finished and my opponent dodged it. 2)His attack is slow

Kingryu1
01-18-2003, 01:26 PM
well you cant exactly make everything in the game good, you need to have some downfalls, like guile and spiral.

haolys
01-18-2003, 02:33 PM
he doesn't suck, you just have to know how to use him well. he might not be fast enough to get you out of a hyper attack but if he is used correctly he has advantages in other ways, you shouldn't be depending on the helpers anyways. there's nothing wrong with any of the helpers.

DA_VIPA
01-18-2003, 04:36 PM
its all about the timing when u have guile as a helper :D

Scorponok
01-18-2003, 06:08 PM
<font color="blue">Don't pick Guile then..

haolys
01-18-2003, 06:28 PM
its all about the timing when u have guile as a helper :D
vipa knows what i'm talking about. i'm surprised how many people don't already know this stuff.

Ludacris
01-18-2003, 06:36 PM
<font color="blue">Don't pick Guile then..
yep....just don't choose him.....but hey I never had problem with him.......and yeah sure he's not that good but that's why U can use him 8 times like Spiral......anyway.......

MasterX05
01-18-2003, 07:59 PM
I dont use guile for defense, he is a great offense helper like u call him when u got your enemy in the corner. Or even when u are about to do a super,crossover,etc.

TarkanX
01-18-2003, 08:06 PM
Guile sucks, choose another helper

(R)Dragon(R)
01-18-2003, 08:32 PM
first see what buttons you use to pick Guile. Then don't press those buttons.

DX Zero
01-18-2003, 08:48 PM
Guile doesn't change for you
u change the way you play

1. study your opponents jump
2. study the usual time they do a super
3. study the teleportation the game is having

- use guile if ur opponents meter bar is high and yours too so u can link the help to ur super
- use him when u r coming down from a super jump/air hadouken, then either jump away or do a super
- use guile if u want the person to dodge the sonic boom for your best results

every (type of) helper has different offense and defense, just use them right

SSJKarma
01-19-2003, 12:26 AM
DX is right !

guile !
1 - use him to catch you opponent off guard !
EXAMPLE: i use guile while in the middle of the battle... then i jump and do a shinkuu ! its a sure off guard hit !
2 - use him when your about to do a super... if the other guy does a super he'll be kicked out of it and get full dmaage of your super !
3 - you can use him 8 times... you can use it 4 times in a single match then have the 4 other to do the same in and win the second !

if i'm good with him, why aren't you able to notice the same as many others ?
same goes with spiral... BAD FOR DEFENSE, GOOD FOR OFFENSE !
teleport, shinkuu TATSU MAKI SEMPU KYAKU ! that's it, free hits !

its that easy, there are two types of helpers in this game, OFFENSIVE and DEFENSIVE... just know which one is better in what !
venom is is a real problem, he never come out when i want him, he 1 - goes out of the screen and does his attack, 2 - he come out behind my opopnent which makes him completely useless !

find the error !
i was complete left
opponent complete right
make venom out, but he comes out from my opponent side and those his venom fang in MY face ! which did nothing !
the same happens in PRATICE also ! so i know its more of a bug or tweak then the lag !

pip99
01-19-2003, 02:05 AM
omg guile kicks ass... it would take ages 2 explian with each charecter .... but spiral does suk..

bloodpack
01-19-2003, 04:55 AM
not only guile or spiral...but also VENOM!!!

pip99
01-19-2003, 05:08 AM
venom is good.. ;) i think ..

bloodpack
01-19-2003, 05:15 AM
venom is good if your opponent is infront of his FANGS
but if venom is going on the left and your enemy is on the right, then thats plain stupid and disastrous... :(

pip99
01-19-2003, 05:26 AM
venom is good if your opponent is infront of his FANGS


lol i think hes ok

MasterX05
01-19-2003, 05:39 AM
not only guile or spiral...but also VENOM!!!
spiral has the hotest move ive see. Its venom that sucks. check this out.
http://www.vgmfusion.com/~senshuk/home/tutorials/movies/ryu/ten.avi

pip99
01-19-2003, 06:08 AM
how do u video whilst playing i wann know!! :D

Kingryu1
01-19-2003, 07:03 AM
master: that video is in practice mode, there are to bad things that could happen:

1) while playing against somebody else, they could teleport, and the attack would miss

2) spiral might send the character to the wrong side, and miss the opponent completely.

pip99
01-19-2003, 07:17 AM
yeah still btu how did he vidoe dat

SSJKarma
01-19-2003, 01:43 PM
like i said, all chars have their weaknesses and their strong points !
if you always play with their weakpoint then it is clear that all character.
will be weak for you !
i mean, you wanna think that way with guile...
you might as well yell that psylock, shuma gorath, hulk, blanka cannot even block an AIR-SHINKUU !

you just have to know how to use them !
and when to use them, because helpers aren't there just for HELP DURING A SUPER, they are there for the whole match and i doubt you are always on a defensive state !

PIP: he used the program called CAMCORDER which able you to RECORD the desktop or a part of it !
i know, i have it too and i used it in some game and i will use it to record some of my matches !
but you need a BIG BIG computer if you don't want the LAG BOOST that come into play while using it !

MasterX05
01-20-2003, 09:00 AM
master: that video is in practice mode, there are to bad things that could happen:

1) while playing against somebody else, they could teleport, and the attack would miss

2) spiral might send the character to the wrong side, and miss the opponent completely.
true but for best result be on the other side of the screen away from your enemy to do it for better results. It worlks great for chun-li and wolvrine to.

DX Zero
01-20-2003, 08:14 PM
not only can spiral do that, she can teleport u to ur opponent when there about to do a super.. then u press LP and it cancels there super, but not in their screen.. so u have the time to power up, or super jump to one side..

venom is rather the weakest helper of all.. but all helpers HELP..
when do u use venom?
- landing to the other side when ur opponent is about to do a super
- landing from an air hadouken, followed by shinkuu hadouken
- when ur opponent is normal jumping toward u and u want to reverse it so u r on offense
- when u can't get the last hit on ur opponent to kill him just throw out venom

if u depend on helpers to win.. don't.. they just give u an upper hand that one opponent will have to have in any game