Chunli's super takes to much life! - That need's to be fixed!

[hadoken king]

One or them and your life is already on danger !:angry: Whats up with that Chunli Sucks! She's not suppose to be that strong wolverine Berserker Barrage X dosen't even do that much damage if anything else isn't a bug that has to be one and it's obvious that it's a problem and i'm sure that alot of people will agree with this.

[DX Zero]

not really...

how many times can u execute her super without it being dodged or canceled?

[Roll]

1 out every 10 tries. I'm kind of upset at how many times people have hit me out of a kikoushou with a shinkuu Haduken after I just started my attack (when the energy field just starts to appear around her hands). Either that, or they dodge it. Anyone who get's caught in one everytime it's used should be ashamed. And the damage it takes should stay the same. Most people don't play as Chunli. But the ones who do, usually play as her for her strength in hypers. If her strength were lowered, then we'd have only Ryu players and Sentinel players in the game (except me. I'd still pick Chunli), and the rest of the characters would just sit there, and get all dusty from not being chosen to fight with.

[hadoken king]

:sarcasm: Well that makes alot of since..forget what i said before then I just got pissed because a chun li player gave me my 5th lost just now. :lol:
Oh yeah and chunli doesn't suck :)

[SuperSonicX]

Heh its ok king!

[hadoken king]

Heh!

[Troy88]

Hmm.....I pretty much agree with what hadoken king said in the first place. Anymore, Chun-Li matches are less about skill and more about staying the hell away from each other out of fear of getting Kiko-Shou'd. The end result is both Chun-Li users at either end of the screen throwing fireballs at each other (kinda like a Ryu match), now what's so fun about that?

One Kiko-Shou will take 3/5's of your life if you catch the brunt of it. Even if you block one of them, I've seen it take nearly a 1/3. Even if you try to break one of them with a helper, I've seen it take half by the time the helper gets there. The only effective strategy against a Chun-Li user is to stay the hell away from her. If you don't, prepare to die.

Also, Chun-Li's flash kick takes WAY too much life. Beefing up her supers is one thing, but what the hell? I've gotten trapped in the corner with full life before and been beaten in 4 seconds flat, and of course I couldn't move or do anything. That's B.S. if you ask me, much worse than the low punch cheat with Ryu. Shameless cheapskates could easily exploit that (and I think some of them already have).

Now I know that Chun-Li needed some tweaking, but I don't think that this was the right solution. If anything, she should be invincible as soon as she starts her Kikou-Shou (as to prevent getting kicked or fireballed out of it immediately), with the exception of maybe getting Shinkuu-Hadouken'ed. Give her moves a little more priority perhaps. But making her supers take 3/5's of your life is overkill. I don't like losing to nothing but supers.

I know this sounds awfully bitchy, and I also know that TMy just wants players to choose all of the characters that he's worked so hard on, and not just Ryu. But I'm being honest here. I just don't enjoy using Chun-Li anymore. It's just too easy to be cheap with her.

[TMyApp]

.. i'll see what i can do in the next update.. :biggrin:

No, TMyAPP don't do it! For the love of god! Chun li can now beat Ryu! You want it to go back to where there's only 1 character who can actually win? You want that? I ask you again: do you want that?!?

Don't. Please. There is now a character than can actually win against ryu.

What's wrong with you people? Do you not like a challenge?!?

You're all INSANE!!

INSANE!!!!

Don't change her!!


I can come up with some 'proper' arguments if you like, it's just it's late and i'm tired.

[Troy88]

Well I could beat some of the best Ryu users even before Chun-Li was tweaked. You just have to know how to use her. I'll tell you one thing right now, that crap about her supers getting cancelled out? All you have to do is jump and land on Ryu's head (with down+medium kick), sweep him with medium kick when you land, and then use your Kiko-Shou. In other words, chain it into a combo (players of the original arcade game will know what I'm talking about). It's not that hard, seriously. Also, with Chun-Li's triple jump, Ryu's Shinkuu-hadouken is extremely easy to dodge. As far as I'm concerned, the only reason people didn't pick Chun-Li before is because they suck with her. Making her supers take most of your life makes it way to easy to lose against someone that truly doesn't know what they're doing, and I'm not just talking about Ryu vs. Chun-Li, but also Chun-Li vs. Chun-Li. But I do agree that some of her moves should get more priority.

[TMyApp]

itssounfair: i won't be "turning back the clock" on her, and changing Li into the "original" we had a while back...

we're talkin about "small tweaks" here and there, that make sence (@least on paper)...

Li and Logan have beeng going through that in almost every update (most people just don't notice it)... more powere here, more speed there... every update... and as time went on, they became more and more playable...

trust TMy... if anything, we can always "change it back" :biggrin:

Well I could beat some of the best Ryu users even before Chun-Li was tweaked. You just have to know how to use her. I'll tell you one thing right now, that crap about her supers getting cancelled out? All you have to do is jump and land on Ryu's head (with down+medium kick), sweep him with medium kick when you land, and then use your Kiko-Shou. In other words, chain it into a combo (players of the original arcade game will know what I'm talking about). It's not that hard, seriously. Also, with Chun-Li's triple jump, Ryu's Shinkuu-hadouken is extremely easy to dodge. As far as I'm concerned, the only reason people didn't pick Chun-Li before is because they suck with her. Making her supers take most of your life makes it way to easy to lose against someone that truly doesn't know what they're doing, and I'm not just talking about Ryu vs. Chun-Li, but also Chun-Li vs. Chun-Li. But I do agree that some of her moves should get more priority.
Now just listen to you. You joined in February. After TMyApp had been tweaking Chun Li for a while. Do you have any idea how hard it was to fight with her in December when she was first released?

When she first came out... Chun Li could NEVER keep up with good Ryu and Wolverine users. She was just too slow. It didn't matter how well you fought with her, even with that triple jump, Ryu and Wolverine could literally run circles around her. At some points it seemed as if Ryu and Wolverine moved at least 3X faster than Li. And about her supers being canceled out... it didn't matter whether they were canceled (even though it was most frequent) because no matter what super you used it was just too easy to avoid. Now at least Chun Li can use supers a bit faster. And unless you were already in the air... you couldn't jump over the Shinkuu Hadoken because she just got air born too slowly...

And further... I believe her moves right now get too much priority. Even a sentinel beam doesn't have priority over Chun Li's Senretsukyaku. That's a huge change from originally, any move could cancel out her supers.

The only thing I agree with is that her supers shouldn't take as much damage. Bottom line, Chun Li needed the tweaks.

[hadoken king]

I guess she could use some tweaking.......

[SuperSonicX]

Well id have to say that she got alittle better, i can beat ruy users with her now...so its a improvement...

[Troy88]

Now just listen to you. You joined in February. After TMyApp had been tweaking Chun Li for a while. Do you have any idea how hard it was to fight with her in December when she was first released?
I joined the forum in February, warrior, I've been playing the game since January. Also, when I first started, I used Chun-Li exclusively. I may not have been here as long as you have, but that doesn't mean I haven't seen Chun-Li evolve. When I said "before," I was referring to the time prior to Chun-Li's supers being so powerful, not the very beginning. But January is close enough for me. :p

*sigh* seems like i'm outvoted. Ok, go back to your one character game! Go! Don't say i didn't warn you!

While we're on the topic, bring back the old wolverine! (i mean the old one) He was so cool.....