Lmfao! - This shit is hilarious!

[asshole]

Haha, allright,.. So i'm sitting home and eating, and guess what comes to my door? JAHOVA WITNESSES!!!
LMFAO!!!

There were 2 Ladies, they were just sPeaking their Jibber Jabber about God... like they talked to this Person over my house who visited for about 2 weeks, and that Person said "Ok sure, you can come over and give us some books", because she didn't know any better.

But now she wasn't here, so the Jahova Witnesses started talking to me.. While they were talking to me about "believeing in god", I just said "Wait a second, read my shirt real quick".. and I was wearing a Shirt that says "There's is no God" and has uPside-down crosses on it..
The Ladies felt STUPID!!!
HAHAHA!!
But they still tried to make me believe in Jesus and im like "Uhh.. my family believes in a different Religion, so I don't think they're gonna believe in Jesus", and the lady was like "Yeah, I talk to that lady on the Phone and she said the same thing, but I feel that if you read these books, you'll have a different oPinion"..!

WHY THE FUXK WOULD SOMEONE WANT SOMEONE ELSE TO COMPLETELY FORGET ABOUT THEIR RELIGION AND BELIEVE IN A DIFFERENT ONE!?!?!?








( I'm sorry I just found it really funny, and i'm sure I could've Put my Post in different/better words, but I just can't think, it's too funny.. HAHAHAHA!! The bitches tried to make me Believe in THEIR god, when I don't believe in MINE! )

[bloodpack]

no offense but i dont see anything hilarious in it ???

in these troubled times where all else failed, ppl tend to lean on their faith/beliefs

im a christian, theres nothing wrong with my religion nor i find anything hilarious in it :sarcasm:

[PSYCHO]

lol im a muslim
its kinda funny :laughlong:

[devilsoul]

u don't belive in god? damn u going 2 hell

[streetpower$$]

[quote:post_uid11="PSYCHO"]lol im a muslim
its kinda funny :laughlong:[/quote:post_uid11]
whats so funny about been muslim..???

[PSYCHO]

u never get anything =(
the story he told was kinda funny :)

[asshole]

Well it was funny because the stuPid brauds tried to make me believe in God and my family to stoP believe in THEIR god and Believe in Jesus..

That's Plain out funny and stuPid..



But 2 things, Faith isn't ANYTHING but your feelings inside, and Hell is made-uP!!!

[Toon-Ryu]

lol im a muslim
its kinda funny :laughlong:
whats so funny about been muslim..???
Ya I am a muslim too.

[PSYCHO]

lol im a muslim
its kinda funny :laughlong:
whats so funny about been muslim..???
Ya I am a muslim too.
really ?
where u life :)

[Toon-Ryu]

Well I was born in Pakistan but I moved to Canada so I know live in Canada.

[darkFlash88]

i dont think thats funny verymutch asshole....lol

[streetpower$$]

[quote:post_uid2="darkFlash88"]i dont think thats funny verymutch asshole....lol[/quote:post_uid2]
hahah....lol.. :laugh: sorry asshole but ur name all ways crack me up...lol :)

[asshole]

Well it'd been HILARIOUS if you were here.. you shoulda just heard the stuPid broads trying to make me believe in something that's not there!!!
And esPecially something that's NOT my religion!

And it'd also been funny to ya if you looked at God my way.

[iTALY]

lol im a muslim
its kinda funny :laughlong:
whats so funny about been muslim..???
Ya I am a muslim too.
Terrorists... :angry: l



:)

[asshole]

Italy, don't say that man...
That's just stuPid, thou I know you were joking.

[iTALY]

I wasnt joking...lol

im muslim to ass :D

[asshole]

I'm a Sikh, but I just don't believe in Religion, BUT iI don't like being called an Athiest.

[iTALY]

im not religious and i dont know what a sikh is...i think religion is stupid =/

[asshole]

Well a Sikh is from Punjab, India, mostly..

Like back in the Day, we(Punjabis) were used by Hindus to fight against Muslims... Then like aftre many many years, Punjabis just fought against Hindus(Indians) and just created their Own religion..

A Sikh actually means that you don't follow/believe God or anything...

But you know, Time changes ever6ything, it became a religion.
STUPID is what I call it..
I don't believe in GOD, god damnit!

[SSJKarma]

even tho i am a christian... i don't belive in a simple god. like the old times, i believe there are gods for about everything !

but even that is a litle confusing for me. so i prefer say that i don't belive in anything unless i see it for myself !

people has been saying that never believing leads to hell...
but i say to them that if i was beliveing in a certain god and then when i die, and i was wrong all my life, then i would still be going to hell for not beliving the good thing !

conclusion... i don't belive unless i seen it for my eyes. if i'm wrong then so be it.

as for those changing religion type of person... the best thing to say is go against them in a big discussion.

example:
my father welcomed two person that were stopping door by door to make people go into their religions. my father welcomed them, then he brought his bible around the table, and started talking with them about his religion, they were saying a lot of things there, but my father always had something better to say.

in the end, they were all confused as to why they were in there religion !
funny, we never had any of those ever after !
:biggrin:

[asshole]

Yeah, Karma your Post is exactly what I am...
( I think I shoulda said "Your Post reflects my life", but I'm not sure if REFLECTS is the right word.. ;] )

[DARKPICCOLO]

oh no! not Jahova witnesses *locks the doors* damn them, i dont even believe in JEVUS :laughlong:

[asshole]

Hahaha, you mean HE-SOOS?

[Lightbringer]

.... Christians still go around the block and knocking at people's door to believe Jesus, THEY'RE SO OUTDATED!!! I thought nowadays Christians use telephones...

[SSJKarma]

and get easily hangned over ?
no way, its better going in person, its harder to close the door to someone in front of you compared to the telephone where all we can do is hang it on !

[bloodpack]

conclusion... i don't belive unless i seen it for my eyes. if i'm wrong then so be it.
what about WIND?
you dont see it but you can feel its presence when its there
unless youre too callous to notice the simple beauties of your surroundings ???

[streetpower$$]

I wasnt joking...lol

im muslim to ass :D
ur a muslim.... :shocked:

[DA_VIPA]

damn i knew dat agez ago..he calls himself italy coz he was born there...but he has iranian blood and heritage he lives in america..i think..

[Havoc919]

I believe this is an athiest joke....

Christians are told never to give up even if you're a disbeliever.

So whatever.....to bad they waste there time though...but it's never a waste of time when Jesus is involved....umm let's avoid religion in this forum

Edited By:SBYRD5

[Scorponok]

.... Christians still go around the block and knocking at people's door to believe Jesus, THEY'RE SO OUTDATED!!! I thought nowadays Christians use telephones...
Don't be stupid, Jehova Witnesses are weird, their rules and all are stupid. They're a difference between them and just simple Christians..

People like asshole get led astray by these people.. they think that Christians are a bunch of people that always dress nicely, act proper, go to church all the time, and can't have fun or anything like other people do..

Crazy.. I'm a Christian.. Am I like that? No....

But yeah, it's funny how you say they said all that stuff without noticing your shirt :laughlong:

[iTALY]

even tho i am a christian... i don't belive in a simple god. like the old times, i believe there are gods for about everything !

but even that is a litle confusing for me. so i prefer say that i don't belive in anything unless i see it for myself !

people has been saying that never believing leads to hell...
but i say to them that if i was beliveing in a certain god and then when i die, and i was wrong all my life, then i would still be going to hell for not beliving the good thing !

conclusion... i don't belive unless i seen it for my eyes. if i'm wrong then so be it.

as for those changing religion type of person... the best thing to say is go against them in a big discussion.

example:
my father welcomed two person that were stopping door by door to make people go into their religions. my father welcomed them, then he brought his bible around the table, and started talking with them about his religion, they were saying a lot of things there, but my father always had something better to say.

in the end, they were all confused as to why they were in there religion !
funny, we never had any of those ever after !
:biggrin:
Damn i completly agree.....

So blood do u believe in aliens, flying cows, or people with superpowers?

[Razz]

If a Jehova's Witness comes to your door, just say, "The power of Christ compells thee!"
That'll just weird'em out . . . 'cause you know . . . yeah.

Oh, and I'm a Christian too. :buttrock:

[asshole]

ScorP, I don't think Christians have no life, ya monkey doodle... I have a LOT of Christian Friends!

But it's just funny when stupid bitches come to your door and try to make you forget about YOUR religion, and learn about theirs!
I even told them that I don't believe in Religion, they STILL tried to make me believe in that shlt!
Fuxk that shlt.. it was funny, now it's pissing me off!


This haPPened last year too, this lady came to my house EVERY month.. to check uP if I believed in Jesus, and when Ii said "No." she said "Well here are mroe books, I hoPe you find "GOD" in this"...
PISS OFF!

[Lightbringer]

holy fxck!!!! Now I understand assholes feeling, those bitches were sickening, me and my friends were there walking home in a mall, suddenly some wierdos ask us where the hell is mcdonald, i was like wtf, then I look at their shirt and says Christian, and I was pissed off, they tried to bribe the 4 of us, but one of them had to go to some place to review his homework, and then left the 3 of us, they wasted like 20 minutes on us in the mall, then the girls of our class suddenly comes down the escalator and looked at us amazingly, and one lame slut starting laughing like a mofo, it was so lame, and the girl(in university)which talked to me was trying so hard to get me believe god, but at the end, she felt like a dumbass... she felt embarrased, I just pissed her off. believe god, no, need blessing? no... I trust myself, I'm independent, so go away please, in her bitching face

[akuma_forever]

lol,

i hate it when jahovas witnesses come to my door. i just want to tell them to shove it.... :biggrin:

[Lightbringer]

they're so gay they do anything to make you believe in the only lame one(jesus) pfft, one time me and my friend met one, we walked like 2 kilometres to another district, that guy just followed us all the way! talking wierd things about Jesus... I do read the bible, I actually retorted him, he probably felt stupid, but I read the bible because I think the content is pretty stupid and funny... and has a little adult content lol

[asshole]

Light, I feel your Pain man, the stuPid bitches just waste THEIR and MY time.
But I STILL don't get why they want one Person to FORGET about THEIR-OWN Religion, and believe in a different one..

[Xicer]

Yea theyve came to my door plenty of times, but they were young man. Coll dudes. I just listen to what they had to say and when they were done I was like. '' I get what ya trying to do but im sticking with my relig''. They were like ''Alright Cool''

[Lightbringer]

you can pretend to trust in god.... I mean fighting with some outlaws you can use god as your shield, wearing the cross on your neck lol

[asshole]

X-icer, the bitches didn't do the same to me..
I said my families gonna stick to their religion, and the ladies were like "Oh well, just give them these books, maybe they'll change their minds"...

FUXK OFF!!

[Dhalsim_Dalai_Lama]

Lightbringer Posted on June 13 2003,09:44
I read the bible because I think the content is pretty stupid and funny... and has a little adult content lol
Man, y u hatin' on christians. the bible is supposed to be enriching, full of metaphors and enlightening tales. the psalms helped me get through my trial two years ago.

but even thoug i am christian, ur right psycho, those jahovas witnesses are a pain. once they came to my door and i told them im christian, but they still tried to sell my other versions of bibles. imho, missionaries went out with slavery.

[Theverygrimbomb]

Jovano Witnesses don't believe in god, they belive In Jovano, one goes to my skool, dumby! :buttrock:

[Dhalsim_Dalai_Lama]

Theverygrimbomb Posted on June 14 2003,15:19 Jovano Witnesses don't believe in god, they belive In Jovano, one goes to my skool, dumby!

well they tried sellin me some religious books. and by the way, y are your polls so queeringly gay.

[Scorponok]

They're weird, they don't celebrate B-Days..

:S

[Elena]

[quote:post_uid8="asshole"]Well it'd been HILARIOUS if you were here.. you shoulda just heard the stuPid broads trying to make me believe in something that's not there!!!
And esPecially something that's NOT my religion!

And it'd also been funny to ya if you looked at God my way.[/quote:post_uid8]
Oh and what is ur religion?
What do you believe in? Tell me is it really there can you touch it, feel it, is it really there.

[asshole]

Elena, are you an Idiot?
I SAID I don't believe in Religion.. or God!

I was just saying that "Just cause I don't believe in the Religion i'm suPPOsed to, they tried to make me a Christian fool.."
Oh and I also said that they tried to Make my FAMILY stoP believing in the Religion they do now (yes i'm the only one in my family who doens't believe in God), and start believing in a DIFFERENT one..
Fuxk Missionaries!

[Scorponok]

Fuxk Missionaries!
Err.. they're you go again..

If it's these Jehova Witnesses you're talking about, don't really consider them to be "missionaries"...

[asshole]

Well, they're sPreading the word of Jesus, trying to Force PeoPle to Believe in Jesus.

Isn't that what a missionary is?

[Elena]

[quote:post_uid8="asshole"]Elena, are you an Idiot?
I SAID I don't believe in Religion.. or God!

I was just saying that "Just cause I don't believe in the Religion i'm suPPOsed to, they tried to make me a Christian fool.."
Oh and I also said that they tried to Make my FAMILY stoP believing in the Religion they do now (yes i'm the only one in my family who doens't believe in God), and start believing in a DIFFERENT one..
Fuxk Missionaries![/quote:post_uid8]
Nope sorry I'm not an idiot....Maybe I misunderstood but
You said it is NOT your religion so it means you have a religion.
You also said why believe in something that is not there....How do you know it is not there? And I ask you what is your parents religion I'm guessing its hindu and the do they believe in "something that is not there"
And missionaries are just doing what everyone else tries to do....try and make you come to there side and believe what they believe, like in court a lawyer tries and make you believe them. Or when your trying to prove someone wrong.
So stop saying fuxk missionaries because we all are one in some way.

[asshole]

Elena, I thought you'd be atleast a LITTLE bright..
Ok.. here..
When I say "My religion" I mean the one I'm SUPPOSED to believe in.. You know, the one my Family believes in.. Understood now?
Or should I break it down into easier words for ya, droogie?


And no, the religion is NOT Hinduism.. My (again remember..) Religion is TOTALLY Anti-Hinduism.. We actually fought for our Freedom from Hinduism..


And and why do my Parents Believe in something that's nto there? I dunno, ask them.. That's why I don't believe in it.

And, how do I know it's not there? Maybe cuz I've never SEEN A GOD, and I CONTROL MY LIFE!!!

Oh and about the Missionaries thing... isn't it suPPosed to be "equal rights" in Christianity? Everyone believe what they want to, no one force anyone to do anything? Well!?


You know what Elena, i'm guessing you're related with this somehow. You seem to be getting Pissed for no reason..



Edited By asshole on June 16 2003 at 05:02

[Elena]

When you said ur religion I guessed you had a religon...Sorry i misunderstood you could of just said you dont believe in anything. After all MY means belonging to one person or a WHOLE group.

And just because you can't see it doesnt mean its not there. Its not like its hurting anyone believing in a religon.

The missionaries aren't forcing you to believe in their religon...like you said YOU control ur life. And it really bother you so much tell them to leave you alone, just watch the cussing.

Related how? I'm catholic.

I was getting pissed off because ppl were making fun of other religons like lightbringer. Fine you don't have a religon or you dont like them. Then don't say anything. That way no one gets hurt.

[iTALY]

I declare asshole the winner ;)


Edit: Elena Religion is stupid...it just starts fights (wars)

For example...u and asshole are fighting over what?? religion..if there was no religion u wouldnt be fighting

(crap example but w/e)

[asshole]

That's what I meant by related, you must believe in a religion of Christians or something, that's why you got Pissed when I bashed on it.

Oh and, well, if it's not THERE, ofCOURSE it's not real then..
Are you saying that there's a big fat Brown Rabbit sitting in fornt of you with a Knife? I mean common, you just can't SEE him!!

And yes, the missionaries were FORCING me!

And, I did say before that I don't believe in religion or God, you just didn't read it, I guess.

[Elena]

I declare asshole the winner ;)


Edit: Elena Religion is stupid...it just starts fights (wars)
Ok asshole i'll give it you except for the if you cant see it its not there thing.

And italy lots of things starts wars doesn't mean its stupid. Love starts fights does it mean its stupid. And keep comments like that to urself.

[asshole]

You know what Elena? This is actually a toPic I LIKE talking about.. we can debate all we want, but i'll WIN I bet,.. unless you won't have a counter-back but, you won't give uP.


Ok then, WHY should I believe in something that has NOTHING to do with my life? Why should I believe in something that's NOT there? And I say it's not there because I can't SEE IT!

Tell me, why should I?

[SSJKarma]

i think people NEED to believe in something in order to have hope in their lives !

may it be religion, dreams, job or anything that can be part of a belief.

that's mainly why they do believe in gods !
i have believes, but they aren'T religious ones.
my believes make me go forward in life, we all do !
so belief is normal and natural, but forcing people into religions like those fanatics who can do anything to make you join them. its just plain old stupid !

by fanatics i mean those who pass by DOOR BY DOOR... they aren'T saying thanks for your time answering us. good bye... no they want to come in and take an hour of your time reguardless of what you tell them !

i agree with asshoie on this...
fanatics are stupids and morons !
its kinda the same as those INDOUISTS fanatics who use special shoes because they donT' want to hurt beetles or ground creatures that are under them !

don't you think they are going a little too far into their believes ?

i'll add this other example...
the crusade wars !
those who fought for jerusalem... they wanted to get it back for what reason ?
not because of the people themselves... they wanted it back because it was SACRED for them and the wrong people were in it !

don't you think that war was completely non-sense considering that the only thing that made that war going on was the RELIGIONS itself and that only FANATICS were in it ? BTW, this war is still going on today for the very same reasons !



Edited By SSJKarma on June 16 2003 at 00:06

[Scorponok]

And yes, the missionaries were FORCING me!
Well, in the Bible it says you have a choice... not forced to do anything.. Just get the punishment when the time comes :biggrin:

Think of these people as... hypocrites (Is that how you spell it?) :S

[blossom]

Why should I believe in something that's NOT there? And I say it's not there because I can't SEE IT!

Tell me, why should I?
well do you believe in the air that you breath? well you cant see that can ya LOL :laughlong:
well i do belive that there is a God and that Jesus lived because the Bible gives me all the evidence i need, besides how else can you explain why we are here and how we where all created? Dont take this post wrong A$$Hole as a christian its not my place to judge anyones religious belifes or non- belifes, and im sure nobody wants a Sunday school lesson so thats all i have to say

[streetpower$$]

[quote:post_uid4="blossom"][quote:post_uid4="asshole"]Why should I believe in something that's NOT there? And I say it's not there because I can't SEE IT!

Tell me, why should I?[/quote:post_uid4]
[color=red:post_uid4]well do you believe in the air that you breath? well you cant see that can ya LOL :laughlong:
well i do belive that there is a God and that Jesus lived because the Bible gives me all the evidence i need, besides how else can you explain why we are here and how we where all created? Dont take this post wrong A$$Hole as a christian its not my place to judge anyones religious belifes or non- belifes, and im sure nobody wants a Sunday school lesson so thats all i have to say[/color:post_uid4][/quote:post_uid4]
I agree with haer cuz have u never asked ur self why ur here on earth and why ur created and what happends to u when ur dead... ???

any way i do believe in god cuz im moslim my self...and us a
moslim i have to believe in god.... :)

[pip99]

we have those dudes..in england...there all either AFRO CARIBEAN or old white ladies..the 1 time this old lady startes speaking 2 me....my mate was there and i said " yeah ...yeah ..er .......nah"..and slamed the door...####### hilarious. meh jehovias witnesses or somethink like that.

[iTALY]

Why should I believe in something that's NOT there? And I say it's not there because I can't SEE IT!

Tell me, why should I?
well do you believe in the air that you breath? well you cant see that can ya LOL :laughlong:
well i do belive that there is a God and that Jesus lived because the Bible gives me all the evidence i need, besides how else can you explain why we are here and how we where all created? Dont take this post wrong A$$Hole as a christian its not my place to judge anyones religious belifes or non- belifes, and im sure nobody wants a Sunday school lesson so thats all i have to say
Aliens made us :0

[streetpower$$]

Aliens made us :0

and u say ur moslim...???

[pip99]

Aliens made us :0

and u say ur moslim...???
it was a joke meh

[Fried_Ricer]

what r u doing???1st of all u should'nt insult ppl trying to help u out in life,especially if it is abaout god,what were u thinkin',and besides it's really not even funny at all,i didn't even make a snicker :hmmm:

[asshole]

Blossom, I'm really glad you brought that "air" Point out.. but here's what I have ta say:
You know why I believe in AIR? Because it helPs me thru life.. It keePs me alive. And you know how I know it's THERE? Because if I breathe out at my Hand, I FEEL it, on the other side if I call out Gods name, he/she/IT never resPonds in ANYway...
Oh and one other reason how I know that AIR is there and I NEED it to survive is that, IF I stoP breathing (thinking that air isn't real) will kill me.. so I NEED IT.. whatever IT is, I need it!
Or if I go under water, where there's no Air.., I will also die!

But GOD?? I don't need it.. I can't see/feel it!



Oh and about that thing... "Why we're here?"
I don't know WHY we're here, but I can tell you HOW we're here.. and NO Jahova or whoever they say nowadays DIDN'T Create us. LONG ASS TIME AGO, There was n exPlosion in the sun.. and Pieces went EVERYWHERE.. and one of them haPPened to be Earth. And then the Organisms that lived on that Piece called Earth turned into Animals and shlt.. and then we evolved!

( Sorry I made it sound like it came form a -12 year old, but I didn't feel like tyPing all that shlt! )

[Roll's Friend]

I can explain why I believe in GOD....


Unlike many who blindly worship GOD. I am a person who believes in FACT and REASON....

Those who don't worship god....I can almost promise you that that person or persons have never taken the time to study the bible.

------------------------------------------------------------
Yes the Universe began with a big bang....but what caused the BIG BANG. Don't tell me automatic inplosion....of a small atom.

Don't give me that BS....How can living beings.....Think,FEEL, BIRTH,DIE..... Science can only explain half of that....not everything.....

As I have read in the bible everything is playing out in history as it was predicted....I even studied other religions and began to gather that JUDISM,CHRISTIANY,ETC..... are all connected


Like honoring mother and father. Almost all those religions that mention Jesus or Moses in them mention those common sayings.......

-----------------
To be concluded....

[Saijin_Ryu]

Exactly, i dont believe in god and it doesnt mean im going to "hell" and im not a christian, i dont like the idea of a religion, its basically telling you how to lead YOUR life i wanna lead my own f-ing life! I understand how you use it for faith and exc exc but ive got freinds exc for my faith :D

[Roll's Friend]

[quote:post_uid10="Saijin_Ryu"]Exactly, i dont believe in god and it doesnt mean im going to "hell" and im not a christian, i dont like the idea of a religion, its basically telling you how to lead [b:post_uid10]YOUR[/b:post_uid10] life i wanna lead my own f-ing life! I understand how you use it for faith and exc exc but ive got freinds exc for my faith :D[/quote:post_uid10]
Yea, and one day your friends will all be dead and gone....and then what will you look for in guidance.......Vidoe games.....hehe....Dragon ball Z. :laugh:

[Scorponok]

Exactly, i dont believe in god and it doesnt mean im going to "hell" and im not a christian, i dont like the idea of a religion, its basically telling you how to lead YOUR life i wanna lead my own f-ing life! I understand how you use it for faith and exc exc but ive got freinds exc for my faith :D
Silly people... :)

[asshole]

No, I agree with Saijin-Ryu, I lead my own life too!


But yo SBYRD, you say you believe what you read in the Bible, right? Well don't you realize that the Bible was written AFTER the World started?? Billions of years after!

And how we have feelings?
YES, Science can answer that!


But how The Big Bang Theory haPPened?
Of course it was just an exPlosion, just like how OUR World right now is gonna sink in Water, becasue there's too much water... just like that, the Sun blew uP from being Hot.

[SSJKarma]

SBYRD: your sayings are as wrong as our !

i mean this...
you say that the big bang isn't a possible explanation of our existence, but know that your explanation is also an impossibility !

why ?
simple...
because both requires that there is a creator. ours is based on self evolution while yours talks about a CREATURE who created us !

if you ask:"what made the big bang ?" i will answer you by...
what is the sound of the falling three if no one is there to listen to it ?

its like many questions that we'll probably never have any answers.
just like your belief which is not based on any facts !

example:
you say god created us... so i ask you, who created GOD ?
see, same question as you asked asshoie about the big bang !

you say you base yourself on facts...
what as god ever did for you in 2000 years ?
nothing !
at least I never hapenned to receive any words from him !
no miracle, no proof of his existence at all !
you say the bible should be read in order to understand !
i say how can you believe a book that is OVER 2000 years old ? (yeah i do have included the OLD TESTAMENTS)

ever played the game called THE PHONE ?
same thing happens here !
one write something, the other add a comment to it, the third thinks the comments is part of the sentence and write it back all in one. the fourth add another comment, the fifth looks at the sentence and comment and decide that the first part doesn't go well with the rest, so he deletes it and write the newly obtained sentence.

see, it goes on like this for more then 2000 years !
now knowing that it had been translated over 300 times in that time, you already see it being changed like 300 times in a row !

now i ask you, what can you blieve in this if you can't know what is good and what is wrong in there ?
unlike the game, there is no one who can bring back the original paragraphs !

so how can you be sure that what you believe in, is real ?
see where we go ?
that's what we've been talking about sbyrd !

like assoie said, air is not visible, but it is there cause i need it to live. i feel it, i sens it, i can produce it !
GOD have nothing of those, so why would i believe in it ?

as far as i know, there is none who could proove me that god ever existed and that's mainly why i loved my secondary 5 religion teacher. he never tryed to convince us of believing in something that he can't even prooves that exists, he just showed us all religions and showed us the difference between them all !

anyway...
like i said, people need to believe in something...
may it be god or soemthing else... but we need that belief in orsder to evolve. i can only guess that next sentence, but i guess people just needed to believe in something greater then them as a way to understand the universe as it is !

people wants to know evrything, but the UNKNOWN is what makes us alive !
at least that's what i think !

[Scorponok]

just like how OUR World right now is gonna sink in Water, becasue there's too much water
Lol...

And Karma, you say the Bible of today is extremely different? If you're so worried why not go and read the ancient scripts?

I've SEEN scrolls of it, they still exist..

[SSJDan]

you guys should get into agnosticism. not sure if i spelled it right though

[SSJKarma]

just like how OUR World right now is gonna sink in Water, becasue there's too much water
Lol...

And Karma, you say the Bible of today is extremely different? If you're so worried why not go and read the ancient scripts?

I've SEEN scrolls of it, they still exist..
and ?
it still don't prooves that what is writen on those scrolls is true or false ?

[asshole]

Seriously...

[Scorponok]

Ok then, forget the scrolls...

Read the Bible, compare it to older stuff, then with all other related material you can find, think for yourself, then decide if it's true. I can't make you believe anything.. (I'm reffering to the Bible being true)

:S

[Elena]

No, I agree with Saijin-Ryu, I lead my own life too!


But yo SBYRD, you say you believe what you read in the Bible, right? Well don't you realize that the Bible was written AFTER the World started?? Billions of years after!

And how we have feelings?
YES, Science can answer that!


But how The Big Bang Theory haPPened?
Of course it was just an exPlosion, just like how OUR World right now is gonna sink in Water, becasue there's too much water... just like that, the Sun blew uP from being Hot.
Yes of course you lead ur own life God gave us free will...God just helps us a little once in while

Ever hear of oral tradition.

We have feelings because...we need it in both scientific and bible version we have feelings...In the bible we know we have feelings because God said he was tired of boring birds and stuff he decided he would make Adam...He got lonely and God made him Eve. Scientific reason is because it shows we are unique. And we are animals you know we are just more complexed and we evolvled.

The sun never blew up it is going to blow up and a few billion years or so according to science. And our world is not going to sink in water it will wear away. Then earthquakes will happen open cracks and blah blah blah. Ozone layer wears away...gravitational pull...all that other stuff which i dont feel like explaning.

And for whoever asked the question y is the bible different because before there was paper and ink ppl had to tell the story by mouth and usally the person was really old and usally left out something or added something. And to add to it some king didn't like what the original bible said so he changed it and left out some stuff and kept the stuff that he thought would be good.

Hey,it helps having a religous mother and a scientific father who is like asshole and doesn't believe in God.

[asshole]

We have feelings because...we need it in both scientific and bible version we have feelings...In the bible we know we have feelings because God said he was tired of boring birds and stuff he decided he would make Adam...He got lonely and God made him Eve. Scientific reason is because it shows we are unique. And we are animals you know we are just more complexed and we evolvled.
How can you say that!?
There were HUMANS Before the Bible!!

And if you believe all that, then tell me PLEASE, why there are more than One kind of God? I mean EVERY Religion has its' god, right?
Well if what YOU said is true, shouldn't that matter to all?

NO!!
Because no one's ever seen "GOD"...
PeoPle make uP stories, and aftera VERY LONG TIME, PeoPle start to Believe them!

[Scorponok]

How can you say that!?
There were HUMANS Before the Bible!!

Very true, but the Bible contained within it the stories of the first humans..

And if you believe all that, then tell me PLEASE, why there are more than One kind of God? I mean EVERY Religion has its' god, right?
Ok, in the Bible, it tells about how everybody built this structure in defiance of God, and were forced to scatter throughout the earth by Him, turning into different cultures.. they went astray, and turned into people like you asshole, believin' in whatever they feel like doin' at the time... do some research on that time period, and Babylon, Babel, Mesopotamia, crap like that, and you'll see... (Notice how I didn't say look in the Bible, since you wouldn't believe it)

NO!!
Because no one's ever seen "GOD"...
PeoPle make uP stories, and aftera VERY LONG TIME, PeoPle start to Believe them!

People make up stories, eh? Must be some sick, deluded people that waste their time writing THOUSANDS of pages for the Bible, then.. just for the MERE FUN of seeing people believe in it..

NOTICE how the USA is better off than most other countries, it's because it WAS FOUNDED ON THE BASIS OF RELIGION, the founding fathers were Christian..

But people are straying away from the TRUTH, so the country's going into RUIN



Edited By Scorponok on June 16 2003 at 20:51

[Elena]

How can you say that!?
There were HUMANS Before the Bible!!

Very true, but the Bible contained within it the stories of the first humans..

And if you believe all that, then tell me PLEASE, why there are more than One kind of God? I mean EVERY Religion has its' god, right?
Ok, in the Bible, it tells about how everybody built this structure in defiance of God, and were forced to scatter throughout the earth by Him, turning into different cultures.. they went astray, and turned into people like you asshole, believin' in whatever they feel like doin' at the time... do some research on that time period, and Babylon, Babel, Mesopotamia, crap like that, and you'll see... (Notice how I didn't say look in the Bible, since you wouldn't believe it)

NO!!
Because no one's ever seen "GOD"...
PeoPle make uP stories, and aftera VERY LONG TIME, PeoPle start to Believe them!

People make up stories, eh? Must be some sick, deluded people that waste their time writing THOUSANDS of pages for the Bible, then.. just for the MERE FUN of seeing people believe in it..

NOTICE how the USA is better off than most other countries, it's because it WAS FOUNDED ON THE BASIS OF RELIGION, the founding fathers were Christian..

But people are straying away from the TRUTH, so the country's going into RUIN

Very well said.
And about the ppl before the bible...duh...I said oral tradition which meant that ppl keep passing down stories of adam and eve and so on till someone could write it down

[SSJKarma]

ok...
i think we getting nowhere since whatever we say, you're just ignoring it and go on with your arguments !

i asked a question...
WHO CREATED GOD ?
don't answer me he just appeared out of nowhere and created us !

also...
you wanna talk about the bible being true...
then why is there a BIG BIG BIG GAP between ADAM AND EVE and the time the bible start ?

really, there is that 65,000,000 million years !
the dinosaurs, why isn't any PASSAGE about them in the bible ?
if the bible is everything, then why is it only about 800 pages when clearly the history of the different country itself is way more then those little 800 pages !

don't tell m the ORAL thing, cause it just prooves that i am right about the bible not being true entirely !

also...
# - YOU WILL NEVER MAKE IDOLS (remember the commandments ? that one is the perfect IMPOSSIBLE one. we made GOD itself an IDOL, by believing, offering etc... to him)

tell, answer those questions please and see how your believes about god doesn'T even cover those gaps !

one last thing... if god created the earth, then what about the other planets and galaxies ? what about the aliens and everything else ! basically i'm talking about the whole universe !

we've been talking only about the earth and us, but notice how religions doesn't cover the rest of the universe !
if i follow the religions, then there is a whole universe but only earth is worth the talk.

bullpoop...
religions doesn't cover the rest that is constituting the universe itself !

answer those questions please, or at least try to !


and scorp... who do you think you are to tell us that USA is better then any other country ?
my country (canada) was also based off religions, all countries in the whole world have started that way.
just look at the history of the different countries and see how all countries have that in common !

[Scorponok]

ok...
i think we getting nowhere since whatever we say, you're just ignoring it and go on with your arguments !
Ok, time to get things straight...

i asked a question...
WHO CREATED GOD ?
don't answer me he just appeared out of nowhere and created us !
Don't just say he appeared out of nowhere? Oh wait, how'd the big bang happen, everything that comprised it came from nowhere you say?

also...
you wanna talk about the bible being true...
then why is there a BIG BIG BIG GAP between ADAM AND EVE and the time the bible start ?

really, there is that 65,000,000 million years !
the dinosaurs, why isn't any PASSAGE about them in the bible ?
if the bible is everything, then why is it only about 800 pages when clearly the history of the different country itself is way more then those little 800 pages !


It's actually over 800 pages (I remember) unless it's got REALLY big pages and REALLY small font..

God created the earth.. you know the story :S
A higher angel (Lucifer) rebelled in heaven.. and was cast down, along with other of his cohorts.. (Satan and the demons :S) This, as many people say (Christians) caused the extinction of earlier species (before man), the Bible you could call a puzzle, as you have to fit pieces from information from all around it into one place to sometimes figure things out. Then it goes on to say the earth was "dark and without form" or somethin' like that.. lol, don't remember the exact phrase.. then He created man..


also...
# - YOU WILL NEVER MAKE IDOLS (remember the commandments ? that one is the perfect IMPOSSIBLE one. we made GOD itself an IDOL, by believing, offering etc... to him)

Don't be idiotical. How can they MAKE God an idol, the PURPOSE of man's creation, as in the Bible, is for God's pleasure (last time I remember reading)
one last thing... if god created the earth, then what about the other planets and galaxies ? what about the aliens and everything else ! basically i'm talking about the whole universe !
'Cuz we don't NEED to know about the other planets, we have enough trouble with OURS. AND, when the Bible was written, did they even know about ANY other planets? Hell, most of 'em didn't even know the world was a sphere!



and scorp... who do you think you are to tell us that USA is better then any other country ?
my country (canada) was also based off religions, all countries in the whole world have started that way.
just look at the history of the different countries and see how all countries have that in common !
I wasn't saying that, sorry if that's the point I got across to you..
I meant to say, compare countries like the USA, England, etc..
to countries like China, countries in South America, etc



Edited By Scorponok on June 16 2003 at 23:52

[asshole]

Ok Elena/ScorP, if PeoPle Passed on stories.. then what about the Dinosaur times, where there WERE no PeoPle?
Did the Dinosaurs haPpen to find Ink and write stories while takin' a craP in the woods? Where was God then!?

And about your 800 Pages long book..
Yes, PeoPle Probably just write 'em for fun, I've seen LONGER Pages Books than that.

And common, are you actually telling me you believe in a book that you've never actually exPerienced?
Oh and in one of the sections in the Bible, didn't it say that the World was gonna blow uP at 2000?
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THAT!?
Did god make a Glitch in his game..?

[blossom]

And common, are you actually telling me you believe in a book that you've never actually exPerienced?
Oh and in one of the sections in the Bible, didn't it say that the World was gonna blow uP at 2000?
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THAT!?
Did god make a Glitch in his game..?
heh well if your refering to the book of Revelations then you kinda got it mixed up, this section tells of the second comming of Christ it also says that no man shall know the time or hour in which this will happen. However Revelations does give some of the signs of the second comming Wars and Rumors of Wars etc. If you want i could post a few scriptures if you need more clearification :)

[asshole]

No.. No.. Please don't!
I'd rather not read it.

But it was my Science teacher who tol dme that there's a section in the Bible that says the World was to be Over in 2000!

[blossom]

No.. No.. Please don't!
I'd rather not read it.

But it was my Science teacher who tol dme that there's a section in the Bible that says the World was to be Over in 2000!
i am soooo sorry Z i dont wanna seem like im pushing you towards Christianity or anything. I just wanted to show you that the bible doesnt give a specific date of the rapture. *sorry again*
anyways im glad that there are some people in this forum who enjoy a good debate (although this one will never be resolved) :D people will believe what they want to....In my opinion the world is roughly made up of two types of people. Those who base there lives on Religion and those who base theres on Science.......

[Scorponok]

Ok Elena/ScorP, if PeoPle Passed on stories.. then what about the Dinosaur times, where there WERE no PeoPle?
Did the Dinosaurs haPpen to find Ink and write stories while takin' a craP in the woods? Where was God then!?
If you actually read what it said, He gave humans priority over the other creatures.. intelligence wise, authority wise, and he gave us a soul :S

?
Oh and in one of the sections in the Bible, didn't it say that the World was gonna blow uP at 2000?
WHAT THE HELL HAPPENED TO THAT!?
Did god make a Glitch in his game..?
NO THERE WAS NOT

:alien:



Edited By Scorponok on June 17 2003 at 01:42

[asshole]

Blossom, I also resPect your oPinion, and no need to aPology.

And i'm reallyglad you called me by my name "Z" ;], instead of saying asshole, my real name is "Zora", just incase you didn't know!


Oh and ScorPo, that's what I've heard!

[SSJKarma]

God created the earth.. you know the story :S
A higher angel (Lucifer) rebelled in heaven.. and was cast down, along with other of his cohorts.. (Satan and the demons :S) This, as many people say (Christians) caused the extinction of earlier species (before man), the Bible you could call a puzzle, as you have to fit pieces from information from all around it into one place to sometimes figure things out. Then it goes on to say the earth was "dark and without form" or somethin' like that.. lol, don't remember the exact phrase.. then He created man..[/color]
be real will you...
that's writen in the book, when actually none of those who suposedly wrote the book at first weren't even in that war who hapenned around the dinosaurs era !

you mean to tell me that this is what you believe in ?
sorry, kinda hard to believe. according to the bible... it was writen around the time jesus died crusified for man kind !
anything before that time is considered legend cause there was nothing to proove that what was heard was real !

people just needed hell to happen and a way to make it happen so they created that ANGEL war so it can make sens !
in the bible, the one i always saw when i was young, it never had any passage about that war, hell it it was just about a few persons who hapenned to had met jesus !

Don't be idiotical. How can they MAKE God an idol, the PURPOSE of man's creation, as in the Bible, is for God's pleasure (last time I remember reading)
so you tell me, that your life is to serve god while he laught at your puny little life ?
you tell me that we are existing so the god itself can look at us and laugh his ass off while you have all the hard work ?
even worst...
you tell me that we are the pets of god just we have dogs in our house !

sorry, i don't buy that #### !


'Cuz we don't NEED to know about the other planets, we have enough trouble with OURS. AND, when the Bible was written, did they even know about ANY other planets? Hell, most of 'em didn't even know the world was a sphere!

it just prooves my point... so the whole god thing is centered around a simple planets when there are actually thousands of millions in outer space. don't you think that if god SUPPOSEDLY CREATED UNIVERSE we know (actually writen in the bible) then we would have stories about what happens on other planets as well ?

no we don't... because its HUMANS who wrote that damn book !
and if i remember right, humans tend to AMPLIFY things by many times !
they also commit mistakes, none is perfect, not even those who wrote the book(scrolls) or anything related to all that. knowing all that you believe in a book writen by humans for humans ?

how about the fact that at that time most of the people (as you said it) didn't know #### !
you believe that they would have writen such a book while many others from that era aren't even close to stories like the one in the bible !

sorry, if the bible is the only book to have stories like that, then it is clear that we have nothing more then a FANTASY TELLING BOOK.

I wasn't saying that, sorry if that's the point I got across to you..
I meant to say, compare countries like the USA, England, etc..
to countries like China, countries in South America, etc

it still don'T change the way you're saying it...
you mean that all countries have wrongfully started cause they didn't start like your !

noticed how we all are different using different culture, of course they didn't were similar. that's what makes us who we are !




just one more quetion to ask !

why is there many many many religions if the real one is the christians one ?

because we all have your own view of the events...
for all i know, humans cannot see things the same way others do. so why would th ebook be all real when you know the humans that have seen it haven't even seen the same things !



Edited By SSJKarma on June 17 2003 at 12:22

[Scorponok]

be real will you...
that's writen in the book, when actually none of those who suposedly wrote the book at first weren't even in that war who hapenned around the dinosaurs era !
God dictated to the writers....

according to the bible... it was writen around the time jesus died crusified for man kind !
Excuse me? NO. The NEW TESTAMENT WAS, because it related directly to him. The Old Testament was written BEFORE, not all at one time, but books were written as time and events happened.. it states in the New Testament about Jesus reading the Old Testament books to people in Jerusalem..
anything before that time is considered legend cause there was nothing to proove that what was heard was real !
So Noah's Ark is fake? People say it landed on Mt... damn, what was it again? Atrat.. er.. Arfat.. err.. forgot, but I think it's somewhere in Asia Minor (It's what people think) but nobody's been able to get up there and check.. that doesn't really prove anything, but what about that layer of water they found..
Oh and here's one. GO THROUGH THE BIBLE, and compare the dates/events mentioned WITH dates/events in various history books. Look how they relate!

people just needed hell to happen and a way to make it happen so they created that ANGEL war so it can make sens !
in the bible, the one i always saw when i was young, it never had any passage about that war, hell it it was just about a few persons who hapenned to had met jesus !

It's funny how it says the Beast and all will be chained down in the earth.. and hell and everything.. and that you'll burn in eternal flames... you know what else is funny.. that you can't deny.. THE EARTH'S CORE is MOLTEN! MATERIAL


so you tell me, that your life is to serve god while he laught at your puny little life ?
you tell me that we are existing so the god itself can look at us and laugh his ass off while you have all the hard work ?
even worst...
you tell me that we are the pets of god just we have dogs in our house !

sorry, i don't buy that #### !
No, if you'd READ the things he asks you to do AREN'T DIFFICULT at all. HE DOESN'T ASK YOU TO DO THESE CRAZY TASKS FOR HIM.. just simple things, like.. don't go around raping people, lol. He gave us a soul to think for our own, think of being on Earth as a test.. to see if we can keep on acknowledging him as our Creator.. lots of mankind's failing it now:S



it just prooves my point... so the whole god thing is centered around a simple planets when there are actually thousands of millions in outer space. don't you think that if god SUPPOSEDLY CREATED UNIVERSE we know (actually writen in the bible) then we would have stories about what happens on other planets as well ?

Yes GOD CREATED THE UNIVERSE, THE EARTH WAS AROUND AFTER HE MADE IT FOR QUITE A WHILE, BUT THEN HE MADE HUMANS ON IT, IT!, THE EARTH, in his own image :S WTF is the point when there is NO OTHER HUMAN LIFE



you believe that they would have writen such a book while many others from that era aren't even close to stories like the one in the bible !

I've read some Indian stuff that had similar stories..
THE MUSLIMS, until just recently, considered Jesus real.. Israel is God's chosen people.. why do you think that little as hell country is prospering economically even through a WAR?




it still don'T change the way you're saying it...
you mean that all countries have wrongfully started cause they didn't start like your !
No, I just simply brought up how this country started, and how it's changing.. for the worse :S

noticed how we all are different using different culture, of course they didn't were similar. that's what makes us who we are !
Yes, the Bible mentions the splitting of races :S
I never said anything wrong with having a different way of life, but I'm saying.. look at the living quality of other countries..

Oh yeah, China, their government is GREAT! Don't you just LOVE the way they kill their daughters!!
Oh yeah! Don't you just love the way Muslims treat their women!






why is there many many many religions if the real one is the christians one ?

because we all have your own view of the events...
for all i know, humans cannot see things the same way others do. so why would th ebook be all real when you know the humans that have seen it haven't even seen the same things !
It's 'cuz people went astray.. made up their own stuff.. or modified since they couldn't help not doing bad things.. or they found stuff they were appaled by (Gold, etc) and as generations went on.. they forgot :S



Edited By Scorponok on June 17 2003 at 14:25

[asshole]

Blah Blah Blah...
You PeoPle still believe in BOOKS that are written by PeoPle!!


Haha, well just tell me then, why are there all thsoe DIFFERENT types of Religions with DIFFERENT beliefs? If that's what REALLY haPPened!?

Because NO BODY knows what really ahPPened, PeoPle just wanna have their OWN oPinions! And after many years, other PeoPle start to follow them!

[Scorponok]

Blah Blah Blah...
You PeoPle still believe in BOOKS that are written by PeoPle!!


Haha, well just tell me then, why are there all thsoe DIFFERENT types of Religions with DIFFERENT beliefs? If that's what REALLY haPPened!?

Because NO BODY knows what really ahPPened, PeoPle just wanna have their OWN oPinions! And after many years, other PeoPle start to follow them!
You BLIND? Read my earlier post..

[Elena]

Guess I'm not needed...
But I would like to say to karma about the "If a tree falls and NOBODY is around to hear it does it make a sound" You can easily answer that question by leaving a video camera maybe a few just incase one should get smashed and it will answer ur little question.

You also asked who created God. Silly question if you ask me because he was there he created everything including time and all that stuff. And i go to Big bang For the big bang to happen there has to be some kind of matter to blow up. Who made the matter...what did it just come poof out of nowhere.

And asshole you ask y are beliefs so different. ANd i go back to oral tradition and how ppl would usally forget something or add something and so on but when they did so they were not very far from the truth. ANd as people began to migrate they started to spread there stories...Jews, Christians Muslims and etc.

You also asked about the dinosaurs. And like I said before God made the animals first then came humans. And yes in 7 days but you have to remember that the calender back then was different from ours. Like if someone said 7 days it could of been 700 years or whatever.

Keep on with the questions/statements

[Scorponok]

Guess I'm not needed...
Pfft, what do you mean, I'm like the only guy arguing.. besides you :S

[MasterX05]

*sigh* Elena and Scorp, Ive got something to say like Karma said there is a huge ass gap in the time of adam and Eve and the invention of ink with paper scrolls and ink were used thousands of years after Adam and Eve. By that time thier were relgions,community,Langauage..etc and in that time the main person with the power was the Preist, now you should be asking ur self why does a preist have all the power.

Then there is the whole God made man to wacth over and protect the Earth and animals that live on the earth. lol Well we have done a great job of that. We just love cutting down trees drving tons of cars polluting the air and damaging the Ozone layer. Wow can you belive how long the Endangered Species and Extinct list is? Great Job Protector's of Earth the race of man well done! *god gives a thumb up*

Now back to the Bible do you not see that it has been wroting in the same time period and area? Like asshole said not every one Relgion was to that god, not until there were ppl traveling the world to spread the word of god.

And the plants why they had to be made for a reason and the sun it serves a great meaning, what did god put to much stars in the pot and accidentally created all these other planets?

The Bible has so many version and they are not exactly the same. You try this in class have some one whisper a phrase in someone's ear and then have them whissper it to the next person to them. And when it gets to the last student tell them to say the phrase out loud and see if it was the same from that start. And many times we did it 99.9% it came out diffrent( at the end it was kiss my ass and the Teacher was pissed :biggrin:)

Evloution Vs. Bible
Know whicth of these have more proof a old book wrote by many ppl or sicence with fossil evdenice and all that crap. They say that Humans and Chimps are 99.3% alike looking at that percentage thats a hell of alike. Could we have came from the same ancestor. Chimps have the intelgence unlike other animals to make tools, they actually invent things, and sometimes use as weapons. Evoultion has taken with other animals as well as humans. The Giraffes had short necks but in order to reach fresher food in high places they needed long necks. look at Dogs and Wolfs Cats and bob cats or Tiger(Lion). Then u have your prey for them to live longer they had to come up with Speed, Camouflage, spikes(thorns)...etc

Now I want you 2 to choose at least one
1. There is a God and there is Evolution that he made
2.There is a God but there is no Evolution
3. There is no God but there is Evolution
4. There is no God and there is no Evloution

[Elena]

Lol are you blaming God for not helping in pollution. HA HA ur funny. God gave us free will, pain, and all that other stuff after adam and eve ate from the forbbiden tree. It's Eve's fault.

Lol the planets could of formed on there own after all there is now matter for them to formed from. And planets do not come from stars.

And i believe in evolution and God.

Yes, the stories did change alot but they got to the point. MAybe names were changed maybe the city names were different but they got to the point.

And Master do you believe in God.

[Scorponok]

Faye, READ my previous posts, and you'll see that I've answered almost EVERYTHING you've said. If you want a response on of your points, find some I haven't answered and weed them out of that post.



Edited By Scorponok on June 17 2003 at 21:30

[SSJKarma]

scorponok: i think you're the one who doesn't even understand our POINTS !


<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>YOU HEAR</span> a phrase, <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>YOUR BRAIN</span> tell you that you <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>heard:"KISS MY ASS"</span> so you repeat that to the one in front of you. and so on...

at the end, do you really think people heard the very very very same thing all the way thru the end of the 20 people in the class ? do you really think that those words you heard were actually thru ?

the end goes like this... KILL THE MASS !
while at the very beginning...
it was CHRIST, MY BUTT !

see what we mean ?
now, wer're talking about a game that is like 99.9% chances of not getting the very same phrase !
you want fact, then i'll give you fact !

FACT: THE HUMAN BRAIN DOESN'T HEAR, VIEW, INTERPRETE THINGS THE SAME WAY AS THE OTHERS PEOPLE !

meaning, what you hear,view, interprete will never be the same as the other humans. so if you interprete the bible as your ultimate truth, tell yourself that the other peolple looking thru that very very same bible, will not see,read the same thing as you, cause their interpretation is totally different from yours !

so, it means that even if god told them to write those things, it doesn't mean they wrote exactly the thing he said to write !

but regardless of what we'll be saying, i think you just think you are right and you just won't admit that what you believed in for so many years cannot be true !

FACT: PEOPLE FEAR THE TRUTH !
cause it sometimes goes against what they believed for years ! so they tend to do things to make their BELIEVES come true !

basically, if someone decided somewhere in the time line of the earth, to make a belief that says there is a god... then that belief transcending thru times has became a religions ! cause ...

FACT: all religion, started from a <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>BELIEF</span> !

* DEFINITION OF A BELIEF *
something you <span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>THINK</span> is the truth !

now, i say how many times do you have made mistake BELIEVING in something and then when the truth came, you noticed how it wasn't even what you believed in the first time ?

i don't know for you, but it hapenned like over 10 times to me !


i'll ask you a simple question scorponok...
if you believed in GOD all your life... then you die and nothing happens... or you discover that there is no HEAVEN, only hell...

will you just look stupid to have believed in something that never was true, and that for your whole life (around 85-100 years) ?

that's why i prefer not to believe in religions, i just live my life and wait for the truth at the very end of my existance !

and scoponok... all of what the bibles said... how can you know if its the truth ? no one is here to prove anything about that, and at least the theory of evolution goes way farther in the history of man kind then you little religions !

you didn't answer me right scorponok...

you said...
- there was that war with between angels...
- then he created earth
- then he created humans
etc...

how can any HUMANS know what happenned before earths creation ?
don't tell me GOD told them, cause its pure supposition ! (no proof of anything)

as for every other things you said about time being created by GOD, i say:"if you actually believe what you just said, then you are even more stupid then i thought !"

WE CREATED TIME... the word minutes, the word HOURS, the word SECONDS, its not god who made that, its us !
MATHEMATICS, haven't been created by GOD, its been created by us as a meaning to explain a few things and to be actually able to build things with precision.

WRITING hasn't been existing for our whole life, we created it !

example:
in the time, so few people knew how to write or read !
so its only common sense to say that people even before that time never knew what writing or reading was.

noah's ark, a reality ?
has someone ever find it ?
has someone ever prooved it was real ?
how can you believe in it while there are no prooves or anything about it, its just been story telling from the start !

do you believe in the legend of the king ARTHUR and EXCALIBUR ?

[asshole]

Lol are you blaming God for not helping in pollution. HA HA ur funny. God gave us free will, pain, and all that other stuff after adam and eve ate from the forbbiden tree.
God didn't give me free will!
My MoM and Dad did..!

You see, here's the story about me..
After having my Brother and Sister, my MoM and DaD had sex again, and then I came from her Vagina (no i'm not being sick..) Then all the thingsI learned, and did are all done by ME.. NOT God!


And sorry fellas, I don't fel like reading everything over AGAIN, i'm gonna stick to my oPinion, if you can Prove to me that there is a god, then I will change my mind about EVERYTHING!

[Scorponok]

Karma, I see what you're getting at, but the only thing it proves to me is that you don't have anything in response to my points I've stated.
You're question? But there is a Heaven, so your question is null and void :biggrin:

And asshole, read Genesis and see for yourself about free will :S

[MasterX05]

Lol are you blaming God for not helping in pollution. HA HA ur funny. God gave us free will, pain, and all that other stuff after adam and eve ate from the forbbiden tree. It's Eve's fault.

Lol the planets could of formed on there own after all there is now matter for them to formed from. And planets do not come from stars.

And i believe in evolution and God.

Yes, the stories did change alot but they got to the point. MAybe names were changed maybe the city names were different but they got to the point.

And Master do you believe in God.
You are the first Female ever to say it was Eves, I had this debate in my freshman year in freshman semniar. And almost all the girls jumped down me and another guys throat for saying the blame was Eve, even the teacher was with the girls saying the same crap.

And you are not getting my point of Pollition. I never said God of helping matter of fact why should he help? Man MADE pollution. He made Adam to protect and rule the Earth and creatures that lived on it. So far we have been doing a very bad job of this, we hunt animals for no ###ing reason at all,(what hunters call game) Main problem on this earth is the ozone layer&Bush :biggrin: you might not give a flying monkeys balls about it but you will see the importants of it.

Look at our sloar system do you think the big bang, All the gas, matter, star's dust...etc was formed and made JUST for earth? All nine planets circle and orbit around the SUN. earth is nothing speacial at all the plantes were made at the same TIME all the squeeze of gas and "Gravity" formed it in a sphere. Did Earth have life right away? Think and ask all of this made extreme heat and the earth was more of a Molten ball of lava so were the other planets. It had to take time for it to cool off and harding the crust(which is the surface we live on). Earth is still hot it still has not cooled off now coming sence will tell u that it is impossible for earth to cool of in a week. The moon came from apart of earth nothing special about it.

Planets dont come from star huh? So if I told you u are nothing more then start dust would you belive me? Believe it or not you are. Star dust yep thought god made you in a pot with sugar,spice and every thing nice huh. Nope not at all, they say that men have 1 less rib then women, not sure of this to be true but i doubt it is.

Do I believe in god? Well if you asked me that question a year ago I would say yes. But after a year with Mr Pope you begin to see and think of things diffrent. So I some what do in a way.

lol Karma pretty much laid it down in the example I wast tying to give u.

Now another question for you 2 What is life? And no bull about hearts and other crap.

[asshole]

Who the hell are Adam and EVE?
And ScorPo, what's Genesis?



Alls I STILL know is that, I will believe in what I SEE or KNOW it's there and it affects me!
Other-wise, I can jerk-off ALL I want and still NOT call in a Sin!
( Yes, I am sorta drunk right now.. HOO HOO HOO!! )

[Scorponok]

Who the hell are Adam and EVE?
And ScorPo, what's Genesis?



Alls I STILL know is that, I will believe in what I SEE or KNOW it's there and it affects me!
Other-wise, I can jerk-off ALL I want and still NOT call in a Sin!
( Yes, I am sorta drunk right now.. HOO HOO HOO!! )
Genesis is the first book of the Bible..
Maybe you should read it before you go off giving opinions about it..

I'll get back to you later Master, I'm kinda tired of all this right now.. lol



Edited By Scorponok on June 17 2003 at 23:55

[asshole]

I didn't give any oPions about any book..
I gave out my oPinions, and how i'll only believe in what I want and KNOW!

I'm not gonna go read ANOTHER BIBLE and let it tell me what to do..


Ok, one of my retarted friends have a "Satanic Bible", It has VERY good Points.. Would you want me to go getthat from him and Post them here?
It's TOTALLY against the real Bible, it tells you all the oPPosite ways to live and shlt!
But I don't believein THAt either.. because it's just a stuPid book, written by stuPid PeoPle!

[SSJKarma]

Karma, I see what you're getting at, but the only thing it proves to me is that you don't have anything in response to my points I've stated.
You're question? But there is a Heaven, so your question is null and void :biggrin:

And asshole, read Genesis and see for yourself about free will :S
like i thought, you don't even care and you don't want to argue with us, all you want is to prove that you are right about it, and this, reguardless of what we think !

cause if you answered what you answered... then you clearly didn't understood what i wrote !

i'll put you my question the other way around...
tell me how you know HEAVEN exists !

give proof of it, cause simple THOUGHT and BOOKS doesn't !

and you still didn't answer my question...
DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE KING ARTHUR AND EXCALIBUR EXISTED ? (believe me, this is relevant)

other questions i ask you...
DO YOU THINK GOD IS PERFECT AND NEVER MAKES MISTAKES ? (many think yes, that's what i ask)

but anyway... i'm out of this debate, cause you don'T seem open enought to actually understand us correctly, you seems to be focused on god and that's it.

like i said, PEOPLE FEAR THE TRUTH !
what if what your TRUTH happens to be wrong ?
that's the question many, like yourself don't want to ask themselves.

that is the only reason why i rather believe in things that i can proove and let time prooves me the rest !
you got no proofs of god existence, no REAL proof, the bible is just an old book writen by more then 300 peoples with 300 different ways of understanding the thing.

i was never saying that all was wrong in that book... but most (over half of it) is mainly false and non-sense added over the years because those writers didn't loved what they wrote down !

if jesus would have been BLACK (maybe he was)
do you really think, that at that time... (black slavery)
they would have writen the bible as him being black ?

if yes, then you gotta a big problem, and you're just like that women in my family that think god is gonna give her everything because she gives him all her money and the rest !
those kind of fanatics like that, don't have their place in a community. they think everything is granted to them and they try to make you believe them cause they want to hear the truth, so they make their own truth and make sure they are right !

again...
how do you know, your truth is the right thing to believe ?
i tell you, no believe is the right one, we all know its gonna change someday... and if you die and you realize you see another god then yours... how will you react ? how will god react ?

for my part, he never helped me out, did he ever gave a reason to me for taking lives ?
when he take out my little cousin which died from cancer at the age of 6 !
did he ever listenned to my prayers, did he ever gave me a reason to believe in him when i most needed it ?

my whole 15 years of life when i believe in him... he never hapenned to give me any reason of his existence.

did he ever gave you some ?
then, why would you care for a creature that doesn't even care if you believe in him or not ?

now, i'm 22... i just don't care if he exists or not, only time will give me that answer !
now i think this debate reached his limit, if you're not even gonna give us credits for our arguments... then you clearly wasn'T debating at all !

asshoie: i ask of you to close this thread, or if you like that kind of non-sense, then just go on with it... but i'm out of here ! maybe i'll continue to read... but don't expect me to post anymore !

[pip99]

been reading some of the stuff....and i and a christian...and i dont wanna die...and there nothings u knowu ever though about that....just like u dont even know your there....i dont wanna go into it makes me sad........

[blossom]

now, i'm 22... i just don't care if he exists or not, only time will give me that answer !

well its sad that you will wait until its too late to save your soul, but its not any of our responsibilities (Scorpinok,Elena, or myself) to change your mind.
As you said this is a debate and thats all we are doing, so dont get upset and leave the thread if we dont agree with your point Karma.

do you believe in the legend of the king ARTHUR and EXCALIBUR ?
Anyways about the king (Artur and Excalibur) thing.... ummm maybe ther was a King Arthur but im pretty sure Excalibur wasnt a magical sword and Merlin was probably an old magician like David Copperfield not a sorcerer with great powers *oops trailing off*

if jesus would have been BLACK (maybe he was)
do you really think, that at that time... (black slavery)
they would have writen the bible as him being black ?

what do you mean by that? the bible wasnt writen in the days of slavery. Anyways the bible never officially said he was black, just that his skin was a bronzed color and that his hair was like wool in texture....take that however you want.

if yes, then you gotta a big problem, and you're just like that women in my family that think god is gonna give her everything because she gives him all her money and the rest !
that "women" is crazy when you give to the church offerings you only have to pay ten percent of what you have earned
example: your pay check is for 100 dollars, then you give ten bucks is that so hard? will you really go insane without ten dollars? some people spend way more than that at an arcade every week.. but it doesnt matter how much you give because "God loveith a cheerfull giver" so if she has more than ten percent to give then she should go for it :buttrock:

that is the only reason why i rather believe in things that i can proove and let time prooves me the rest !
you got no proofs of god existence, no REAL proof,

well what about the planets? do you belive in them?
if you answer yes then why do you belive in them?
because people have been into outter space?
how can you be sure that NASA isnt making this whole space exploration thing up?
im pretty sure you have never ben into outerspace have you Karma :laughlong:

[bloodpack]

...So blood do u believe in aliens, flying cows, or people with superpowers?
aliens? yes! it depends if its UNIDENTIFIED or IDENTIFIED

flying cows? yes! put them to a catapult or just like lyka (the first animal in space)

people with superpowers? yes! spontaneous human combustion, telepathy, clairvoyance, mind reading...

A$$HOLE: when another religion knocks at your door, chatting about their religion, it doesnt necessarily mean they WANNA MAKE YOU FORGET YOUR RELIGION And BELIEVE IN THEM INSTEAD

theyre simply INTRODUCING their kinda faith and ITS UP TO YOU IF YOU WANNA BELIEVE OR NOT

[MasterX05]

well what about the planets? do you belive in them?
if you answer yes then why do you belive in them?
because people have been into outter space?
how can you be sure that NASA isnt making this whole space exploration thing up?
im pretty sure you have never ben into outerspace have you Karma :laughlong:
How can you say NASA is making the space and planets up?

The first planet to be discovered was Uranus by William and Caroline Herschel on 13 March 1781. It was discovered by the fact that it showed a disk when viewed through even a fairly low powered telescope. The only other planets which have been discovered are Neptune and Pluto. These were predicted using ingenious mathematical arguments based on Newton's laws of gravitation and then observed near their predicted locations.
In fact Neptune could have been discovered without the mathematical arguments. It very nearly was discovered by Galileo, the first person who could possibly have discovered a new planet. Galileo turned his telescope on the planets and was immediately fascinated by the system of Jupiter and its moons which he observed. While he was observing the Jupiter system on 28 December 1612 he recorded Neptune as an 8th magnitude star. Just over a month later on 27 January 1613, he recorded two stars in his field of view.

One was Neptune and the other a genuine star. Remarkably, Galileo observed the pair again the following night when he noted that the two stars appeared to be further apart. How close he was at that point to discovering that one of the stars was the planet Neptune.

NASA only did further research of the planets and discoverd more of them. The only thing to be fake was teh man landing on the moon when it happen, no one believed it.

[blossom]

How can you say NASA is making the space and planets up?

The first planet to be discovered was Uranus by William and Caroline Herschel on 13 March 1781. It was discovered by the fact that it showed a disk when viewed through even a fairly low powered telescope. The only other planets which have been discovered are Neptune and Pluto. These were predicted using ingenious mathematical arguments based on Newton's laws of gravitation and then observed near their predicted locations.
In fact Neptune could have been discovered without the mathematical arguments. It very nearly was discovered by Galileo, the first person who could possibly have discovered a new planet. Galileo turned his telescope on the planets and was immediately fascinated by the system of Jupiter and its moons which he observed. While he was observing the Jupiter system on 28 December 1612 he recorded Neptune as an 8th magnitude star. Just over a month later on 27 January 1613, he recorded two stars in his field of view.

One was Neptune and the other a genuine star. Remarkably, Galileo observed the pair again the following night when he noted that the two stars appeared to be further apart. How close he was at that point to discovering that one of the stars was the planet Neptune.

NASA only did further research of the planets and discoverd more of them. The only thing to be fake was teh man landing on the moon when it happen, no one believed it.
whoa whoa whoa Max i never said that the planets dont exist, i was just saying that by Karmas "philosophy" if he hasnt seen it himself then how can he believe it?
The same goes for atoms and cells, if you have never seen one do you believe they exist just because a scientist said so?hu Karma? :laughlong:

[Elena]

Actually Master Adam no longer protected the earth and everything on it after he ate from the tree.

And Karma you asked about Noah's Ark and if it was really there. Well archeologist think they might have found where it was. And I know what ur going to say next. You are going to say Well how did wood last for so long isnt It going to rot. The answer is yes. But it left a skeleton of the ark.

You also asked about excalaber. Umm, well I'm not suppose to believe in witchcraft and all that stuff. But have you forgotten that there was no camolot. And the author (Julius Verne) of the knights in the round table said it was all made up. And a fantasy.

Then Karma you asked is God perfect. The answer is NO. God even said it himself after he flooded the earth. He said he made a mistake.

And karma you said you don't care if they exist or not. Then y the hell you debating. But then again in the beginning of this topic you said it was better to believe in it just incase it it true.

Karma you also told Scorp what if God turns out to be fake and not real. And I ask you: What if he is real?

And asshole how do you know that God or Whoever ur mother believes in didnt help in the process. He could of made ur mother had a miscarriage. But didn't ever hear the saying God works in mysterious ways.

And karma you said it was in the time of Black Slavery. Actually no it wasn't. The Pharoh enslaved his own ppl the jews. They were not black just a little tanned (bronze).

And hey Jesus could be black he can be whatever race you want him to be. He may appear azn to azns, blacks to blacks. The way Jesus looks now with the sholder lenght hair and the little beard. Came from Italians.

Anyways, I think it is better to believe in God then not believe in God. I mean you dont have to be crazy about and go to church every single day. You don't even have to donate. The pastor always says give what you are able to give. So if i should die and God is not real well atleast i know it wasnt a total waste after all the bible teaches you to help others and not to be mean to others. But if he is real...

[SSJKarma]

elena: don't force me to repeat myself !

i said that BELIEF is what makes the human go forward in life, without em... no one would have gone this far !

also, i said it was better to believe in something then not believeing at all.
i never said what belief was better !

for my part, religion is nothing more then a fantasy made by someone. a practical joke just like the aliens symbols thing !

why do i care ?
i don't !
you said it yourself, its a debate... nothing more, and as far as i know, debating your OPINION is the whole deal of a debate. that's why i joined !

BLOSSOM: no i don't trust scientist either, cause many of them are missguided by their own will to find something they long searched for. which makes em do mistakes and they think they have found something, when in fact they created the idea and made sure it became real !

it all comes back to reality...
HUMANS FEAR THE TRUTH !

one question...
HOW CAN YOU BE SURE YOU ARE REALLY EXISTING ?
talking about religions and believeing is honorable, but denying everything else is plain old stupid !
i am not denying anything, i keep a certain PROABILITY of it to be real, but unless you prooves me that god exists by showing him to me and prooves he really is... then i will not believe he exists !

as for the planets, no i don't really think they are real, except that when i look into the sky, i happens to see a lot of stars ! see, i've seen it myself !

unless you think we live in a BOX decorated like a small planet and the sky we look at, at night... is actually the ceiling ! (seems like the TRUMAN SHOW)

anyway... you understand my point !

like i said, i am still reading, but i will not continu to debate on a useless subject such as religion !

[Elena]

Ah ha ha Karma you said you are a christian but then you said you won't believe anything unless you see it with ur own eyes. By that time it will be too late. And I see you as not believing in anything cuz you will not see God unless you die. And Ur questions are going to far its ok to have a little curiousity but you are going to far. I think this topic made you a non-believer. Hehe You remind me of Peter (I think that is his name) the guy who needed to see Jesus after he resurected.

[SSJKarma]

its thomas

[bloodpack]

wtf?
karma, is that you?
never seen you made a 2-word post ???

[imported_p]

yeh thats not a nice way to speak to ya mom...

[dark-guardian]

the stroy was alittle funny

[Elena]

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[caylan1234]

there is nothing wrong with religeon i am a christian and when someone ask me to change my religeon i say no way i belive in god and just because you dont you are not going to hell there maybe no god or hell in your religeon but in mine there is and it is not funny so some people need to stop talking bad about other religeon. :shocked:

[Scorponok]

Then Karma you asked is God perfect. The answer is NO.
Actually it's yes, lol

[asshole]

A$$HOLE: when another religion knocks at your door, chatting about their religion, it doesnt necessarily mean they WANNA MAKE YOU FORGET YOUR RELIGION And BELIEVE IN THEM INSTEAD

theyre simply INTRODUCING their kinda faith and ITS UP TO YOU IF YOU WANNA BELIEVE OR NOT
Uh.. the last 4 that came did the same thing, so why wouldn't the next ones?

[asshole]

Then Karma you asked is God perfect. The answer is NO.
Actually it's yes, lol
Elena, ok.. you said God isn't Perfect?
Well from all those Pointers you've been giving out, all those Thinsg you've been saying, how can you say he's not Perfect?
I mean common, He created this whole World, did he not?
How is he not PERFECT?

Are you starting to Not believe him/her?


AND!!
How can you even Answer that when you don't know #### about him!?

[Elena]

Then Karma you asked is God perfect. The answer is NO.
Actually it's yes, lol
Elena, ok.. you said God isn't Perfect?
Well from all those Pointers you've been giving out, all those Thinsg you've been saying, how can you say he's not Perfect?
I mean common, He created this whole World, did he not?
How is he not PERFECT?

Are you starting to Not believe him/her?


AND!!
How can you even Answer that when you don't know #### about him!?
Look he said he made one mistake and that was the time when he flooded the earth. So no he's not perfect.

And i can answer it because of the bible...ever hear of it. I know what ur going to say...so dont even say it. UR going to say it was made by stupid ppl and blah blah. Maybe they are stupid to you but not to me.

[asshole]

No, I was not gonna say that..
I was gonna say, well he made ONE Mistake(IF he did), and THAT stoPs him from being Perfect?

Well, I for one don't even believe in God, but if I did.. I would say he's PERFECT!
I mean common.. think about it!
HE MADE EVERYTHING!!!
( HAHAHA! )

[Razz]

Look he said he made one mistake and that was the time when he flooded the earth. So no he's not perfect.

And i can answer it because of the bible...ever hear of it. I know what ur going to say...so dont even say it. UR going to say it was made by stupid ppl and blah blah. Maybe they are stupid to you but not to me.
No, he never said it was a mistake. He jsut said he'd never do it again.

[Scorponok]

Look he said he made one mistake and that was the time when he flooded the earth. So no he's not perfect.

And i can answer it because of the bible...ever hear of it. I know what ur going to say...so dont even say it. UR going to say it was made by stupid ppl and blah blah. Maybe they are stupid to you but not to me.
No, he never said it was a mistake. He jsut said he'd never do it again.
Yeah, there you go..

[SSJKarma]

GLAD to know some fell in my trap when i asked that question !

after all, he did say he made us at his images !
can we create a universe ?
no...
are we perfect ?
NO

do we makes lots of mistakes ?
yes we do !

see, a big big lie and nothing more !

glad to know people fell for it !

[Elena]

Look he said he made one mistake and that was the time when he flooded the earth. So no he's not perfect.

And i can answer it because of the bible...ever hear of it. I know what ur going to say...so dont even say it. UR going to say it was made by stupid ppl and blah blah. Maybe they are stupid to you but not to me.
No, he never said it was a mistake. He jsut said he'd never do it again.
Well i took that as someone making a mistake. Guess i was wrong. And karma i thought you said you were not coming back ???

[Scorponok]

GLAD to know some fell in my trap when i asked that question !

after all, he did say he made us at his images !
can we create a universe ?
no...
are we perfect ?
NO

do we makes lots of mistakes ?
yes we do !

see, a big big lie and nothing more !

glad to know people fell for it !
In his image = resemblance..

[Elena]

GLAD to know some fell in my trap when i asked that question !

after all, he did say he made us at his images !
can we create a universe ?
no...
are we perfect ?
NO

do we makes lots of mistakes ?
yes we do !

see, a big big lie and nothing more !

glad to know people fell for it !
When he said like him he meant that they would appreciate the world like him and love it like himself. He also meant like him meaning they would rule the animals. Which they lost shortly.

Yes and its a big "lie" which you believe in(Sarcaism btw).
You really shouldn't call urself a Christian anymore Karma.

[asshole]

Elena, you have no right to tell him what to call himself!

If ya think ya can, then I can tell you that you shouldn't believe in He-soos.

[SSJKarma]

if its what you want to hear elena !
then I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN !

as far as i am concerned, you should have read some of my previous post, you would have noticed how i said i was a christian cause my family are !

that means that when someone ask me what i believe in ?
i say that i believe in nothing !
and if they ask me what i would believe in... (they actually asked it to me)
i say that i would go with the christian religion cause my whole family are chritians.
as that answered your little question ?

and as far as i know, who can say what god had in his mind when he created us ?
after all, even us when we talk aren't giving out the deeper thought we have !
so ia sk you... besides the bible, who ever told you what god had in mind when he created us (the human race)

[Elena]

if its what you want to hear elena !
then I AM NOT A CHRISTIAN !

as far as i am concerned, you should have read some of my previous post, you would have noticed how i said i was a christian cause my family are !

that means that when someone ask me what i believe in ?
i say that i believe in nothing !
and if they ask me what i would believe in... (they actually asked it to me)
i say that i would go with the christian religion cause my whole family are chritians.
as that answered your little question ?

and as far as i know, who can say what god had in his mind when he created us ?
after all, even us when we talk aren't giving out the deeper thought we have !
so ia sk you... besides the bible, who ever told you what god had in mind when he created us (the human race)
And actually Asshole I said that about Karma because is the early post of this topic He was like I am a christian and stuff. Maybe I missed The family part but I think it was very rude to call ur self a christian and try to get other ppl not to believe in him. And I wasn't telling him to do it. I was just giving my opinion just like it was ur opinion to tell me I really shouldn't believe in he-soos. It is like saying you are black but you are in the kkk.

What do you mean other than the bible? Well i could say a priest. Then I could say my mom. No one who lives now was actually there that is y we have the bible which is the primary source. And karma i have an idea of what ur trying to do...ur going to say like well if you can only trust the bible how do you know its true...somewhere along those lines. No matter what you do I will not give in. And karma I think you are a hipocrite you said it is better to believe in something but it seems as if you dont believe in anything.

[political_geek]

sorry i got really anxious and didn't read this whole thread yet. But ill do that right after this. This makes angrier than it makes me laugh ! I'm an ex muslim converted to atheism (no religion) and one thing that I don't get is why the hell would you go door to door asking ppl to believe in another religion just like that? I mean how stupid would a person have to be to think that you can convert some body so easily. Almost all religions use the scare tactic "if you don't believe your going to hell" which in my opinion is pretty stupid. how the hell do i know which one is right and which one is wrong! Plus what kind of god would be so cruel? I know human beings that have a better conscience than that! This is one of the first reasons that drew me away from religion. As a young kid, since i had allot of friends from different religions and races, I for some reason made my self believe that everyone goes to heaven if they believe in the religion they were given. Well anyways getting back to the topic..... trying to convert ppl is stupid and your hardly ever going to make it work.. unless you meat a very weak minded person. (sorry for my extremely bad spelling and punctuation)

[asshole]

Elena, I said that about you AFTER you told Karma not to call himself a Christian..

See, this is the SECOND time you didn't read anything, just gave your oPinion about it..
I am a SIKH because of my Family, but I don't believe in Religion/God thou.. but I am STILL a Sikh! ( Somewhere along the lines of Agnostic.. )

Bah.. you get the drill, right?












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[political_geek]

ok I've read the whole thread and I'm going to explain why noa's ark can't be true. Ok any of you heard of the book "epic of gilgamesh"? Well it's the oldest book ever discovered. Now if you read it and get to the part (close to the end) where Upishtim (sorry for the spelling haven't read it for a while) tells gilgamesh his story about how he achieved immortality YOU

[asshole]

LMFAO!!

Hahaha, that's the FUNNIEST article I've EVER read!
LMFAO!!!

[Elena]

Elena, I said that about you AFTER you told Karma not to call himself a Christian..

See, this is the SECOND time you didn't read anything, just gave your oPinion about it..
I am a SIKH because of my Family, but I don't believe in Religion/God thou.. but I am STILL a Sikh! ( Somewhere along the lines of Agnostic.. )

Bah.. you get the drill, right?












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Look Asshole, Just because ur family is it doesnt mean you have to call urself it. Like my father has a very religous family but he doesnt call himself a christian. Well since i dont know how the Sikh system works. I will just use Karma. Even though his FAMILY are Christians. He doesnt need to call himself one. Like just because an adopted child's family is white and he is black doesn't mean he needs to call himself white.

And i know you said that about me after i said that about karma because than how could i resond to it.

What expect me to remember every little thing about this very long topic. Just because i dont remember doesnt mean i didnt read it.

[Elena]

[quote:post_uid0="political_geek"]ok I've read the whole thread and I'm going to explain why noa's ark can't be true. Ok any of you heard of the book "epic of gilgamesh"? Well it's the oldest book ever discovered. Now if you read it and get to the part (close to the end) where Upishtim (sorry for the spelling haven't read it for a while) tells gilgamesh his story about how he achieved immortality YOU

[political_geek]

[quote:post_uid0="Elena"][quote:post_uid0="political_geek"]ok I've read the whole thread and I'm going to explain why noa's ark can't be true. Ok any of you heard of the book "epic of gilgamesh"? Well it's the oldest book ever discovered. Now if you read it and get to the part (close to the end) where Upishtim (sorry for the spelling haven't read it for a while) tells gilgamesh his story about how he achieved immortality YOU

[Scorponok]

[quote:post_uid0="political_geek"][quote:post_uid0="Elena"][quote:post_uid0="political_geek"]ok I've read the whole thread and I'm going to explain why noa's ark can't be true. Ok any of you heard of the book "epic of gilgamesh"? Well it's the oldest book ever discovered. Now if you read it and get to the part (close to the end) where Upishtim (sorry for the spelling haven't read it for a while) tells gilgamesh his story about how he achieved immortality YOU

[political_geek]

yea and most of them got it here, but the main reason they revolted is because the way the king treated them economically. Oh and all of them weren't christian or catholic.

[The Judge]

i dont think anybody should be judging each others religion.

[asshole]

Blah Blah Blah Blah...
All go kill yourselves!!












-all gone dead-

[lordgrobyc']

Im also a Christian but yet haven't been to church in like 6 years ??? Anyways.. everyone leave asshole alone..who cares if he doesn't believe in Jesus. It's up to him what faith/belief he wants to believe in. No one goes around criticizing what you believe. If they do then image them in the worst place possible..lol. :laughlong:

[Nas]

Blah Blah Blah Blah...
All go kill yourselves!!












-all gone dead-
Na,im already dead,lol,i was a christian when i was young,but i dont give a **** about that anymore,anyway
how's it going lord,i havent seen you in a Long
time,hey,you should visit elite warriors aka ----gfx realm----
now,its great :D

[hadoken king]

I belive in god..and for those of you who dont I feel for you...I know god is real because once when I was young I had and encounter..you might be saying that Im talking smack..but Im not God is real belive me and his son jesus is real to. :)

[iTALY]

Aliens are real too :0

[political_geek]

I belive in god..and for those of you who dont I feel for you...I know god is real because once when I was young I had and encounter..you might be saying that Im talking smack..but Im not God is real belive me and his son jesus is real to. :)
OH SHUT THE **** UP MAN! I actually feel sorry for you in believing such crap! Ask your self why would a god that is suppose to be fair torture you for not believing in him? I know human beings that have a better conscience than that! I totally doubt you had a real encounter with this so called "god". I felt like this too when I was young. I remember jumping off a bed and my brother was right under where i was going to land. So when I jumped I felt some god carry me over him. Now I realize I saw him right before I jumped and jumped a little harder. Ask your self why would a god help you when there are so many people suffering in the world? I know you think your special in some way, but everyone feels that way even me. There's no one out there that thinks that there not more imported than anyone else. But who knows maybe there is a "god" out there .... maybe someone did for some reason choose to help me instead of the billions of people starving to death, but even if there is one I doubt it's the one that your bible talks about. (sorry for my crapy spelling and punctuation)


PS: I don

[lordgrobyc']

Religion is prolly the hardest thing in life to understand cuz theres so many of them...and everyone believes there religion is the right one..There can only be 1..so which one is RIGHT?

I do believe in God but theres still so many questions that i ask myself about the whole thing and yet..no answers.

The Reason i believe in God is because.."who/what created us or earth or hell even the other planets?" I don't believe in the "Big Boom Theory" nor any other ones..so thats where God comes in. Thats the sole purpose to lead me to believe he exists. Also it was said that Jesus was resurrected from his tomb...How could he do that without a God?..yet another question.

I think that were put onto this earth as kind of a trial like thing..Think about it were put on here for a reason...We live from anywhere from 50-100...a trial to see weither we deserve to go to Heaven or Hell? Then another question comes to mind...Why do babies die? How could this be a trial to see wheither you deserve to go to heaven or hell?

Anyways im gonna get off this topic for awhile :

[Dizzy_Gear]

I believe in another dimention full of clowd spirits and demons!

[Dizzy_Gear]

And anyway... it's veryb rude for someone of one religion to try to get someone else to convert... that's not gonna change anyonez mind. From my point of view all religions are equal. What is important is the ideal: be a nice person and please don't murder... but sometimes you have to be somewhat less than nice to defend yourself. Many of these religions are contradictory and i'd rather just be nice and live my life and see what comes next.