View Full Version : Love vs hate - Unofficial debate
DARKPICCOLO
10-22-2002, 07:42 PM
i was just wondering which one is really the most dominant???
is it true that love conquers all? or what?
post your ideas here......and atleast give a reason
SSJKarma
10-22-2002, 08:24 PM
in my opinion...
someone cannot HATE anyone, they can be angry at someone, but they cannot hate someone.
reason: a person who say that he HATE another person... will most likely forget about that person later on in his life ! so the person isn't HATING that other person cause is just PASSABLE ANGRYNESS !
so i think LOVE prevails in this cruel world !
sk8erfox805
10-22-2002, 11:07 PM
love can forgive everything i think thats the most powerfull weapon in this world :D
SuperSonicX
10-23-2002, 11:17 AM
Love is the strongest feeling..being loved or loving someone...can break even the biggest hate in the world..so i say yes love conquers all. I know it conquerd me at one time, heh.
Love is the strongest feeling..being loved or loving someone...can break even the biggest hate in the world..so i say yes love conquers all. I know it conquerd me at one time, heh.
Agreed
Everyone should know that love conquers hatred. There are some situations; however, where it seems that hatred prevails, but it may very well be that love was not present in that situation. Where there is love, there is no hatred
QUIET_KILLER
10-23-2002, 11:25 AM
[color=blue:post_uid4][Now I can agree with this that love is a conquerer.Now if there was no love would we be here in this forum today. HmMmMm..........If you don't know what I mean ask me later on :lol: :biggrin:
However for those puzzles lover I just gave a a hint :biggrin: I gave like 4 of them.Well it's true if you love something then you cherish it while you have it.So if you really love something you will try not let anything bad happen to it.Also you will never leave it if you can.Love makes people do the strangest things.In fact love is so strong it would make a person go in a burning building to help his family out.His fellow man out of danger and many other peril's.I have to wonder if there was no love would the world stop functioning.Would the world get more cruel and vicious :shocked:[/color:post_uid4]
sk8erfox805
10-23-2002, 12:39 PM
love really hurt sometimes ??? :(
princevegetam
10-23-2002, 01:14 PM
hatred will always win.
without hatred, i would have no identity.
without hatred, i would accomplish nothing.
without hatred, i would be weak.
without hatred, i would be a fool.
akuma_forever
10-23-2002, 01:31 PM
okkkkkaaaaaaayyyy.................
ZeroEna
10-23-2002, 01:49 PM
neither. I feel no emotion. neither love nor hate.
but perhaps love most likely.
TarkanX
10-23-2002, 02:31 PM
SNiper shooting, war on Iraq only for oil, gangs, drugs, guns, beer, sides, terrorist attacks, selfishness(someone not giving to another), racism, sexism, religion abuse, homosexual abuse, nukes, weapons, biological weapons....
and Love has...
Hatred is winning, and it seems that way, if this world doesn't come to its senses, and think that everyone is one, that we dont need to be divided intro groups
kingofhearts
10-23-2002, 02:33 PM
love and hate are one in the same they are both strong emotions that make u act in a different way :D
princevegetam
10-23-2002, 03:27 PM
SNiper shooting, war on Iraq only for oil, gangs, drugs, guns, beer, sides, terrorist attacks, selfishness(someone not giving to another), racism, sexism, religion abuse, homosexual abuse, nukes, weapons, biological weapons....
and Love has...
Hatred is winning, and it seems that way, if this world doesn't come to its senses, and think that everyone is one, that we dont need to be divided intro groups
exactly, my point.
hatred always prevails and love accomplishes the little things that have little significance.
can love save global warming? can love save those ppl who were killed by terrorists? can love save racism? can love save the weak? can love save the disabled? can love save me?
the answer is of course: no
asking these questions is not too much for love. if love truly prevailed, then it should be able to save everything. hatred will always win. hatred will always drive me towards my goal
SSJKarma
10-23-2002, 03:27 PM
SNiper shooting, war on Iraq only for oil, gangs, drugs, guns, beer, sides, terrorist attacks, selfishness(someone not giving to another), racism, sexism, religion abuse, homosexual abuse, nukes, weapons, biological weapons....
and Love has...
Love as...
PATIONS, JOY, LAUGH, and every other emotions that makes you HAPPY !
example:
SNIPER SHOOTING = hatred for something or is it... it could be him LOVING to shoot people
WAR on IRAQ only for oil = hatred for something or is it... it could be for a GOOD cause !
GANGS = hatred ? we are a community, GANG, are we bad ?
DRUGS = hatred ? those who LOVE that do it for FUN, all synonymes of LOVE
GUNS = on can do it for PROTECTION, i don't think you protect someone you hate !
BEER = same as DRUGS, you love it if you take it !
SIDES = i don't understand that point !
TERRORIST ATTACKS = again, they could have GOOD principles and STILL WE take them as TERRORIST !
SELFISHNESS = again, if you know the person is gonna break it for sure... i too would be selfish !
RACISM = that is pure hatred i think !
SEXISM = if i LOVE the women and i don't want her to be HURT... i'll be sexist for sure !
NUKES = base, it was for GOOD utilisation ! just like the TNT !
WEAPONS = just like GUNS... if i had to protect something i LOVE... i would resolve to weapons !
BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS = that's not a big deal... some biological WEAPON are good !
see, every single thing you'll say is based on people thought... like i say, there is no HATRED for anything ! it is just LOVE for something that makes us do things that HURT peoples.
example:
your girlfriend gets shot in knee, you know the next shot will kill her ! then you get your gun too and shoot the other one before he had time to shoot ! you killed him, even if it's not what you wanted. then what ? are you a murdered ? no, you did what you did, not by HATRED... but by GOODNESS to save the live of one you LOVE !
HATES or LOVE = LOVE win by a long shot !
Sportschick155
10-23-2002, 03:36 PM
Well...im gonna hafta disagree one dat wit sonic and Jr cause we all kno dat love always ends up to be hatred..at de end someone is always gonna get hurt..no matter wat..
???
princevegetam
10-23-2002, 04:14 PM
*sigh* why do i even bother with these optimists who deny the truth and live in their own fantasies....
QUIET_KILLER
10-23-2002, 04:31 PM
If you knowith the answer to the ?s of that are implied.Then do you even bother tis would make sense would it not :shocked: Anyway continue to cry vegetam :biggrin:
Mega spammer I mean come on you have 1000+ already :lol:
J?K ok Vegetam.Also if hate conquers all tmyapp why did you make this game.HmMm.. thats what I though :biggrin: Also if you hated this game would you have made it tmyapp.See the point this topic very general.It can't be answered by any one alright but feel free to keep on trying :lol: 1 day every one is going to get a answer heh*
Sportschick155
10-23-2002, 04:37 PM
..?
hatred will always win.
without hatred, i would have no identity.
without hatred, i would accomplish nothing.
without hatred, i would be weak.
without hatred, i would be a fool.
because the point is ..u have no damn life... :buttrock:
you are interested in all the bad stuff .. :p
DARKPICCOLO
10-23-2002, 06:58 PM
i agree that love is a strong emotion....but when you think about it hate seems even stronger some times.
some times people just hate you for no apparent reason.
weather it be where your from or what color you are.
some people would argue by saying (what about when you fall in love at first site?)
to those people i ask ( are you really in love with the person or just focusing on outter beauty?)
SSJKarma
10-23-2002, 11:50 PM
ever heard of balance guys ?
LOVE vs HATE = 50/50
sometimes hate become bigger but every time that happen love become bigger in another domain !
example:
- you hate maths in school
- but you love when the class is over
- you love shooting at people with a sniper gun
- but you hate getting captured by the cops ! :colgate:
- you love your wife
- but you hate his mistress :biggrin:
you see, it's all in the balance !
now, i agree that those are PURE emotion and EMOTIONs cannot really be compared as it is different for each person !
Ludacris
10-24-2002, 07:54 AM
hatred will always win.
without hatred, i would have no identity.
without hatred, i would accomplish nothing.
without hatred, i would be weak.
without hatred, i would be a fool.
:shocked:
how can U like hatred.........love is better.......yeah love hurts sometimes but still love is the thing that can stop hatred......
pip99
10-24-2002, 01:07 PM
love leads 2 hate.. so i think both dpeneding on how they turn out
Ludacris
10-24-2002, 01:12 PM
love leads 2 hate.. so i think both dpeneding on how they turn out
hum.........that's pretty intelligent and true......... :biggrin:
pip99
10-24-2002, 01:13 PM
hum.........that's pretty intelligent and true......... thx... :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:
sk8erfox805
10-24-2002, 04:01 PM
just doont think about hating.. :D
Ludacris
10-24-2002, 04:19 PM
just doont think about hating.. :D
well we can live ewithout wait and we can live without love either.........it's all about balance.......like Karma said 50/50
sk8erfox805
10-24-2002, 05:09 PM
noo!! its all about loving hahahaha jk :laugh:
TarkanX
10-24-2002, 06:12 PM
This world is built on revenge. If you hit someone, they'll hit you back, and everyone knows it(yes even you Mastaq).
Karma, usually when people say love, they mean like, compassion, not hatred, what you said was towards hatred "love when class is over" that's not love, its more of hate.
you love shooting at people with a sniper gun
- but you hate getting captured by the cops
That is both hatred. Hatred is when you do something bad, though you love killing people, that is doing something bad.
I don't know what I can say in this argument. I experienced a lot of love in life, but seen a lot more hatred. Thinking of how people change in decision-making, belief's(mostly lies), and attitude during life; I can only get one phrase into this which supports nothing except the truth. It is this:
Boku-tachi wa ikiru hodo ni, nakushi-te'ku sukoshi zutsu.
Itsuwari ya uso wo matoi, tachisukumu, koe mo naku.
[i:post_uid12][color=blue:post_uid12]As we live on, we lose a little bit more. Shrouded in falsehoods and lies, we stand frozen to the spot, unable to cry out....[/i:post_uid12][/color:post_uid12]
Sportschick155
10-24-2002, 10:42 PM
...huh?
DX Zero
10-24-2002, 11:11 PM
... i dont think either one of them is stronger
love is just... shadowed by hate
it means.. there is still love in everyone
and.. hate is covering it ???
well.. if i put it that way, love has more volume than hate that is the surface area :biggrin:
SSJKarma
10-25-2002, 12:08 AM
TarkanX: we don't understand each other !
you're more talking about GOODNESS VS EVILNESS... the thing is, we are talking about what YOU LOVE to do and what you HATE to do ! that's very different things !
- YOU LOVE shooting people (when you love it, i don't think you can hate at the same time)
- but you hate when you're getting cough by cops as you cannot shoot anymore.
same as you in real life TarkanX..
YOU LOVE that game you cannot hate it more or you wouldn't come in anymore !
but you hate ##### that post stupid sh|t !
what else can i say...
LOVE can be even if you do something bad...
do you think a robber will rob a bank if he hates doing so ?
it's like asking you to HATE your mom and dad when you actually love them !
no, you're more talking about GOOD and EVIL ! that is not the point of this thread !
anyway, everything is a balance. 50/50, you do something then something else come up ! ACTION/REACTION
you hate school (ACTION)
you love when it's over (REACTION)
it all come to this as its YOU the PERSON who decide which will be stronger, but everytime you make one stronger, the second become stronger somewhere else !
DARKPICCOLO
10-25-2002, 02:07 PM
As we live on, we lose a little bit more. Shrouded in falsehoods and lies, we stand frozen to the spot, unable to cry out....
whoa.. im.............speachless
princevegetam
10-25-2002, 02:46 PM
TarkanX: we don't understand each other !
you're more talking about GOODNESS VS EVILNESS... the thing is, we are talking about what YOU LOVE to do and what you HATE to do ! that's very different things !
- YOU LOVE shooting people (when you love it, i don't think you can hate at the same time)
- but you hate when you're getting cough by cops as you cannot shoot anymore.
same as you in real life TarkanX..
YOU LOVE that game you cannot hate it more or you wouldn't come in anymore !
but you hate ##### that post stupid sh|t !
what else can i say...
LOVE can be even if you do something bad...
do you think a robber will rob a bank if he hates doing so ?
it's like asking you to HATE your mom and dad when you actually love them !
no, you're more talking about GOOD and EVIL ! that is not the point of this thread !
anyway, everything is a balance. 50/50, you do something then something else come up ! ACTION/REACTION
you hate school (ACTION)
you love when it's over (REACTION)
it all come to this as its YOU the PERSON who decide which will be stronger, but everytime you make one stronger, the second become stronger somewhere else !
do you HAVE to use all those exclamation marks in your posts? calm down for once
SBYRD5
10-25-2002, 03:02 PM
I'm going to say love because love can become a form of fear.
Example=
I was going to lose so one I loved from a fight.If I fight with love to protect that person I could become stronger than when I harness my hatred towards one person.
Example of hatred=
Ok this guy cutted(This means to disrespect from were I'm from) on you everyday then he picks a fight with you.When you think about everytime he looked down on you.You would probaly feel a very strong rage.Hatred only blinds you,and makes you a fool.
If you can keep a focused mind with hatred then that could be a stronger power than love,but if your hatred is focused it's not hate then,but instead becomes a motivative power.
That didn't all make sense,but thats how I feel about the subject.
Really when I fight for something I love I never lose...
Ludacris
10-25-2002, 03:17 PM
well I kicked somebody's ass once cuz he insulted my gurlfriend and I was so pissed I fought like crazy........U know sometimes when you're so pissed U punch a wall but U don't fell the pain.........but after a while U feel it and it hurts...... I think love is what control or provoke hatred .......I think that's what Sbyrd said but I just wanted to tell it again in my way
machine1
10-25-2002, 04:24 PM
ummm ja rule said it best: pain is love :D
Ludacris
10-25-2002, 04:27 PM
ummm ja rule said it best: pain is love :D
lol.........and he also says: IT'S MURDA!!!!!!!!
machine1
10-25-2002, 04:28 PM
ummm ja rule said it best: pain is love :D
lol.........and he also says: IT'S MURDA!!!!!!!!
lol ludacris :lol:
This alone is enough to express part of love..
kaze yo watashi wa tachimukau
yukou kurushimi no umi e to
kizuna kono mune ni kizande
kudakeru nami wa hatenaku tomo...
[i:post_uid6][color=gold:post_uid6]Oh wind, I will stand and face you!
I will go to the sea of anguish,
though the bonds cut my chest,
and the crushing waves are endless...[/i:post_uid6][/color:post_uid6]
onyce
10-25-2002, 06:03 PM
I THINK LOVE is the thing in world
:buttrock:
SBYRD5
10-25-2002, 06:36 PM
Man I use the charlie avatar,and clouds..I love both of them.... :( the avatars....
Ludacris
10-25-2002, 06:38 PM
This alone is enough to express part of love..
kaze yo watashi wa tachimukau
yukou kurushimi no umi e to
kizuna kono mune ni kizande
kudakeru nami wa hatenaku tomo...
Oh wind, I will stand and face you!
I will go to the sea of anguish,
though the bonds cut my chest,
and the crushing waves are endless...
that's beautiful........in what languauge is it written first?
TarkanX
10-25-2002, 07:15 PM
you're more talking about GOODNESS VS EVILNESS... the thing is, we are talking about what YOU LOVE to do and what you HATE to do ! that's very different things !
We are talking about good vs. evil, not when you love and hate something.
ahhh... forget it. I've been through a lot of hatred throughout my life. I'm always depressed. I walked up and down my living room for an hour today staring at the floor.... I have nothing more to say....
SBYRD5
10-25-2002, 07:58 PM
I want the memories to die. (http://www.vgmusic.com/music/console/sega/genesis/Volcano_Valley_Remix.mid)
TarkanX....
Maybe we are more of the same than I thought.I've had problems my whole life man.I have hatred inside so strong it feels like it's going to consume me,but I also can't sleep as soon as I get into my bed.I remeber to many bad younger childhood memories.My mother that never showed me love,and my father was never home then and he still is never home.My sister has a mental condition.As you can see when I was growing up I had no guidance.I got into gang fights.
I never fought little kids,not because I thought it was wrong,but because some kids bullied me,an a friend of mine when I was younger.The gang of boys had a Pitbull with them they thought it would be funny to let it go on us.What they had forgoten to do was feed it.I was 9 at the time and my friend was 8.We saw the gang of boys on the corner,but we continued walking.
One of the boys told me to give them my shoes.I walked faster then they let there pit loose on my friend and me.Sad as this may sound my friend wasn't lucky the Pit attacked him first.I tried to pull the pit's grip away from his neck,but the dog's grip was to frim,and strong....so I ran I ran like a croward.
I hide in an alley.when the help came the boy was died,and the boys that were there ran away somewhere.I was scaried to tell because I thought the boys would do the same to me.I cried everday tell has "wake" then I cried more.I realized if I had been stronger I could of saved him...some how.
I've never had grandparents they died before I ever meet them.My cousins....are to far away,and I think there is some kind of mind disease in my family.
Well anyway after 2 years later when I was 11 we moved away from that place...To NC.I restarted my life here,but we lived in the country for about 3 years.That was the most peaceful years of my life I was angry,but safe.Later we moved into the city...the peace ended.Each day now I have to dail with punks outside my house always trying to pick a fight with everyone.
Really I'm just a teenager that is trying to make up for his bad idolence years.If i could make a wish I would want a family that has love I've never heard my mom say she loved me.I've never played catch with my dad.I only have a hand full of TRUE friends.
Really thats why I stay up so late those memories haunt me like a bad odor.
TarkanX do you ever smile besides when your fighting...really thats the only time I'm smiling than besides being with girls.
When I fight I fuse my anger,rage,an my feelings of being alone into my fist.It suits me.
When I use love I don't really know what it means,but I want to know.So when I'm haunted by my past I write in my journal my hardaches,an all my sorrows.
Perhaps you should also write in a journal TarkanX.
I may not sleep completely free minded of my past,but I can sleep,and regroup for the next day.You know I made a promise to my self I would become stronger....not physically ,but mentally as well.
Remeber TarkanX there are others that have been through #### as well.Maybe you should start a thread about "childhood darmas". You may get an even bigger response from that than any DBZ vs SF topic...
DARKPICCOLO
10-25-2002, 08:04 PM
TarkanX: we don't understand each other !
you're more talking about GOODNESS VS EVILNESS... the thing is, we are talking about what YOU LOVE to do and what you HATE to do ! that's very different things !
- YOU LOVE shooting people (when you love it, i don't think you can hate at the same time)
- but you hate when you're getting cough by cops as you cannot shoot anymore.
same as you in real life TarkanX..
YOU LOVE that game you cannot hate it more or you wouldn't come in anymore !
but you hate ##### that post stupid sh|t !
what else can i say...
LOVE can be even if you do something bad...
do you think a robber will rob a bank if he hates doing so ?
it's like asking you to HATE your mom and dad when you actually love them !
no, you're more talking about GOOD and EVIL ! that is not the point of this thread !
anyway, everything is a balance. 50/50, you do something then something else come up ! ACTION/REACTION
you hate school (ACTION)
you love when it's over (REACTION)
it all come to this as its YOU the PERSON who decide which will be stronger, but everytime you make one stronger, the second become stronger somewhere else !
if your argument is correct then couldnt i simply say this...
a person who loves to shoot people is an expression of love right Karma?
but the family members of the person he shot will hate him.
so his love for shooting only brings about more hatred correct?
Ludacris: It's Japanese/Romaji, and I have plenty more phrases where that came from. I just don't know if that's a good thing...
SuperSonicX
10-25-2002, 08:24 PM
Well roll, i think its a good thing..aslong as the phrase's mean something. ;)
Here's something that I meant to put in my last post, or the one before.
Boku-tachi wa samayoi nagara ikite yuku doko made mo.
Furikaeru michi wo tozashi aruite'ku eien ni.
We live our lives wandering to the ends of the earth.
Closing off the way back, we walk on for eternity.
SSJKarma
10-25-2002, 11:03 PM
too bad he won,t see this !
DarkPiccolo: like i said, love don't BRING hatred !
it's 50/50, meaning that the love of that person is so great that the hatred must be great to compensate on it ! so it resurface at the people who are victims and their family.
when you give a certain amount of love into a thing, that exact same amount of hates gets on other things ! but the fact is, you cannot hate and love the very same object or event. you love or you hate, you cannot do both.
princevegetam
10-26-2002, 06:21 AM
you're more talking about GOODNESS VS EVILNESS... the thing is, we are talking about what YOU LOVE to do and what you HATE to do ! that's very different things !
We are talking about good vs. evil, not when you love and hate something.
ahhh... forget it. I've been through a lot of hatred throughout my life. I'm always depressed. I walked up and down my living room for an hour today staring at the floor.... I have nothing more to say....
ahahhahahahahaha
darkness and hatred will rule the world and make us stronger.... ahahahahahhaa, lol
TarkanX
10-26-2002, 12:09 PM
I've had too much hate to type, yeah I only met my grandpa once, and talked to him on the phone twice, before he died, but that was only one grandparent.
I hardly smile, unless Im watching a comedy, and as of february, I stopped smiling when I fight(haven't played against someone in 2 months).
I could tell you my life story, but on AIM.
princevegetam
10-26-2002, 12:12 PM
oh yes, hatred ownz jooo......
TarkanX
10-26-2002, 12:21 PM
oh yes, hatred ownz jooo......
Is there a past history you would like to talk about... seems that you haven't had a good one.
princevegetam
10-26-2002, 12:43 PM
talk about what?
hatred is me, me is hatred
like old onslaught used to say,
evil is what i am
SBYRD5
10-26-2002, 07:41 PM
TarkanX I will gladliy listen to your life man.First I would need you to PM me your AIM name or email.
Yes,anger can make you not want to type anything.I started to punch keys when I was typing.
montalvo
10-26-2002, 07:46 PM
I love to hate
i love to love
They're both essential in some way or another
TarkanX
10-26-2002, 10:37 PM
You couldn't just look in my profile... heh.... anyways it's CenturionMario
SBYRD5
10-27-2002, 12:11 AM
I was making a long post I think I just missed you by a bit I'll catch you next time your online TarkanX.
Ludacris
10-27-2002, 08:23 AM
I'm still on the side of hatred.
you're only on the side of hatred? ........hum.......weird.....
I'm on both side.......cuz love and hatred balances out everything........
More on Good vs. Evil (This is also a rant, so..):
Good & Evil
Life is full of contradictions, perhaps too full. However, good and evil is the truest contradiction on the planet and any view that does not allow for an opposing view is far too simplistic.That is why, in truth, while everyone is both good and evil, everyone is the icon of pure good.
While society makes general rules about good and evil, the end battle always comes down to the wars inside each individual's mind. There is where the terms good and evil are truly defined and it is there that everyone is the icon of their own good.
Everyone sees themselves as the ideal good. If they say that they don't they have humbled themselves, an act that in their mind makes them a better person, and in truth, more of the representative of pure good.
Everyone has laid their own ideas of what represents good and evil in their own mind, and then they follow it in accordance to their laws for good. If they slip up they absolve themselves of it in some way and continue in their mind untarnished and a better person for it.
Even those who claim to represent pure evil are in truth pure good, because in their own mind, good and evil have been reversed and they represent the "true good" and everyone else lives in a state of self-deception.
Since, in the end, it's only our own opinion of ourselves that matters, we are all pure good. Few dare to think of themselves as remotely evil and those who do think themselves better for it. There is nothing wrong with this, if we ceased to see ourselves as good we would all go truly insane. The first earmark of an unhealthy mind is that they think themselves evil and are torn up by it.
So if we all do a little soul-searching, we find that we all think of ourselves as good, those who agree with us share that status and those who oppose are evil. It's very simple, very true and most importantly, very contradictory.
If you don't like it, don't ponder the question...
Ludacris
10-28-2002, 08:44 AM
Even those who claim to represent pure evil are in truth pure good, because in their own mind, good and evil have been reversed and they represent the "true good"
yep it's true........she's right......it's like the terrorists, they're doing this for their god......they think it's good........they think their god told them to act like this.......but they don't realise that it's wrong.......
I gotta admit, Roll, you are wise beyond your years......
SBYRD5
10-28-2002, 09:43 AM
Ludacris you know I'm only a week an a year older than Roll,but she is clearly more wise than me. ???
princevegetam
10-28-2002, 01:00 PM
an interesting article, good for school work.
but, in this world, there is no such thing as "good" or "evil", there's only a thing that's called "opinion"
the most widely viewed "opinion" is the basis on which we determine "good" and "evil"
but this is not what is logically true.
to determine what's "good" and "evil", you must compare it to "truth" and anything else.
"good" is the truth and "evil" is anything but the truth.
this can be compared to everyday situations, go and think a little. and there is no such thing as, half true or partly true.
example:
Kid A calls Kid B stupid cause Kid B got poor marks on report card. Then Teacher comes and punishes Kid A.
In this case, Kid A is good and the Teacher is evil.
why?
Because Kid A is telling the truth and the Teacher is punishing Kid A with reasoning that is NOT the absolute truth.
Nice try, Vegetam, but at the point your going to, I've nuetralized that argument with this one following sentence:
Since, in the end, it's only our own opinion of ourselves that matters, we are all pure good.
princevegetam
10-28-2002, 03:28 PM
i've already established that, right now i'm trying to come up with a common basic foundation on which everyone can refer to when dealing with this matter.
SiLent_BoB
10-28-2002, 03:58 PM
hatred is me, me is hatred
evil is what i am
im sorry but noone is purely evil. its exactly what roll said
they do bad but to them its good.
noone can be evil right from the start.
think about though hitler was not evil when he was born. but thru his life he developed into the man who did evil things.
and you cannot always be pure hatred because you would spread your hate upon everything and if everything is gone because of that, then what is there to hate, furthermore what would you be if you were "hatred".
I think therefore I am.
I "Hate" therefore I am.
princevegetam
10-28-2002, 05:10 PM
you keep thinkin that way dude.....
SBYRD5
10-29-2002, 06:24 PM
Roll why did you end a debate...why anyone could've ended something this simple,but...just not this early. ???
Simple, Sbyrd. When a debate over something as contradictional as this happens, it needs to be ended ASAP.
SBYRD5
10-30-2002, 06:09 PM
It was getting fun even though the answer was very clear in most of our minds, but It was fun for me to see the ideals of everyone in this XMVSSF online forum community..... oh well. :buttrock:
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