Mods who like.... - To abuse their power.

[Windarossa]

*** AT first i edited this topic and erased what I said but I have every right to say this and I am speaking up. Thankyou for your support roll and evilakuma.****

mods who like to abuse their power...

KingRyu1 got my vote for banning Rest for spamming and not the others who double post or post messages such as lol and thats it.

the only reason Rest posted so much is because his foot is broken and he is inside his house all day for the time being and has been for the past week. all he has been doing is going online to this forum which has been his biggest hobby. and by the way posting actual messages unlike others who double post or just post "cool" but no, kingryu did not warn them but he warned rest even after rest pointed out the actual spammers. but unfortunetly some mods like kingryu blatantly favor some of the older members and let their spamming slip through the cracks...

kingryu banned rest for spamming... rest wasn't posting nonsense on the boards. he is sitting home right now doing nothing due to his injury not like most of you who have curfews and school. you all dont have the time to spend like rest did and he was online night and day and has no decent entertainment but the computer right now.



Edited By Windarossa on May 01 2004 at 23:19

[EvilAkuma]

Delete the topic, he be off the banned. Dunno how long , but hold on

[Resident Evil]

ah forget this...
its only 3 days..



Edited By Resident Evil on May 01 2004 at 23:07

[akuma_forever]

I can't wait till a Mod sees this...

[Roll]

Can you back that up, Resident? I don't seem to see any spamming posts coming from him either; and I looked. If you're upset because of what he said in your thread in the Tournament section of the forum, then I'm afraid I have to say that you need to get over yourself. Hopefully, I'm wrong in believing that was the cause of your rejection. Either way, I agree with Windarossa that King is really just tossing him around in different directions; whether or not the reason is to seem like he is actually doing his job, is something I'm not going to try and figure out.

[Bob~Marley4004]

@Windarossa:..listen to evil akuma before you be in the position rest is in now... Come on, three stars in 3 weeks ! Three days... i hope he use that time to think about all the spam he has done...

::NOTE::
...some ppl just dont know when to stop...

[Roll]

I'd just like to point out that any DECENT moderator would know that banning someone for saying that another moderator is unfair is against the rules, and is not to be done. Windarossa is safe from any bannings until he actually breaks a rule. Only a foolish and very paranoid moderator who looks for popularity through power would ban a person otherwise.

[Resident Evil]

rest spam all over in every topic.. its like if i make a thread and i need help he comes in and said blah blah blah...as in spamming and he aint helping. for example this topic:
http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/cgi-bin....;t=3218 (http://nferno666.sytes.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=5993)

all he did was spam...as you can see...

[EvilAkuma]

@Roll true about that.
@Bob, your rite about his title, 3 star in 3 days or in a short amount of days could mean spamming or just replying after someone reply then he reply but that doesn't consider spamming. I hope I am rite
@ResidentEvil, don't be calling n00b at people or geek, cuz when u join this forum, and people call you by that, I bet you didn't like. I'm for sure, cuz i didn't like it when they told me by that

[Resident Evil]

well...lets just unbanned him and talk to the guy and see if he can control his spam.. that should take him off trouble...

[marvel911]

It's for 3 days..and it is just a little punishment, like detention.

[Windarossa]

Please keep in mind he posted day and NIGHT, he didnt just do it all in one hour. He is 17 and has posts on school nights at 3 in the morning. He is home all day do to an injury so he periodically visits the forum non stop. This is what he loves, don't persecute him for it. He was a fair poster, he just visited often and had so much time on his hands to post on all topics he could put his word in. you never saw his posts on Vets of 2001 topic. rest sent complaint letters to TMyApp AND Kingryu1 about these warning but KINGRYU1 never responded to his pms and neither did TMyApp to resolve this. Restavega even donated 10 dollars after the incident to show respect for the game. he purely donated it for the good of the game. he has more respect for this game then to spam like an idiot

[SSJKarma]

Ok, after speaking to some people, i won't close this down even if i really want to !

but all i will be saying here right now...
yeah you didn't break any rules with this topic...
false, you broke the first rule in this forum which is to respect others ! you directly insulted and bragged about KINGRYU1, and the others aren't better by bragging about RASTAVEGA which i should say didn't really spam if i must compare him to many other members which i saw. but fact are fact, he got shot down for a reason, because of something he did.

compare it to real life, how many of you did get a warning from the police because of something you aint have done ? not many... so please, no more disrespect, you got something to say, say it ! but keep in mind that disrespect is reason enough for all ofus mods to actually ban your sorry asses !

now... you want to go on with hits... do as you wish, but stay respectfull even if the guy surely deserves it, cause nobody int he world deserves it !

there, you have nbeen warned, everyone , not just the original poster !

[SBYRD5]

LOL,Rest you have it much better than me man.

I was banned many times for speaking my mind.

It's funny at that time I was exactily like you man. My Windrossa was Sportschick155.

LOL, loved her like a fat kid loved cake back then....you know.

And when I got banned she did the samething windrossa did for you.

It's nice man that she cares enough for you to do that....

Honestily you'll be back in a few days......LOL your a lucky dude....you have that same love I had once...lol

And alongside that you only have a 3 day ban....*smirks*

It seems the next generation of people to visit this forum will relive a similar past I had here....

It's fun to watch...

And if your not one to contian alot of pride..Rest maybe I can tell you those past experiences when you get back....

Talk To You Later...



Edited By SBYRD5 on May 02 2004 at 03:53

[RyusRevenge]

damn i really hate mods *cough* nferno *cough*..... :D , anyhowz exactly what does happen to a person whos banned from this site.....are they able to get into the site???......but not post???....or is it like when u r trying to get into a laggy website and it neva loads lol....damn u ppl making me think to much.

[SBYRD5]

Be greatfull TMyApp or Lordcyris didn't ban him or lefty....

Trust me there would be no comming back basicily I'm like the only exception or something....

[Saijin_Ryu]

Hmm, this topic is about what? A plea to help get Restavega unbanned...Hmm how very pointless, i have no idea why KARMA didnt close this, but its basically shots at kingryu's status here.....one that is higher then the people bitching at him!
I think he did the right job, for one thing Rest ignored KingRyu's warnings about him going into every thread and lets say "speaking his mind" as he went off topic numerous occasion's and carried on doing so!
Its not even that bad! Its 3 days, man thats really sad if he cant stay away from an online forum for 3 days and he has a girlfriend.....makes me wonder if there is actually any fun in russia.
Never Bitch at a mod again......especially my Kingy :inlove:

[SBYRD5]

Mehh chill man there young...lol

They'll see later on.....you guys got it easy because back in the day BANS use to last forever or tell the next update.

Kingryu1 is just giving you a warning...nothing serious.....lol kingy is a nice guy...lol

Thats why he banned you for 3 days and not forever...



Edited By SBYRD5 on May 02 2004 at 12:27

[vx_unicom]

Kingryu1 is has a reason for banning him,therefore he is just going to have to wait for 3 days..............2 days left!!!

[Evil-Blanka]

I'd just like to point out that any DECENT moderator would know that banning someone for saying that another moderator is unfair is against the rules, and is not to be done. Windarossa is safe from any bannings until he actually breaks a rule. Only a foolish and very paranoid moderator who looks for popularity through power would ban a person otherwise.
yeah listen to them

[Hadouken2yoursystem]

:angryfire: I'm with windarossa and her Mai avatars and stuff. Vega did not just say 1 word or sentence stuff like me, he actually used up his time and effort to maKE all those banners and avatars, you know, the screen shots, the pictures, the captain america thing, the sabretooth thing, the gay looking chinese-probably Fei Long geezer, That man does PROPER stuff, not just short crap like pip99 does these days. :angry:

[TitanX59]

you only get banned for doing things such as spaming or anything else against the rules, maybe u should check the rules out everytime u post before you post or start jugging mods, i think kingryu is doing a great job with his as a mod, i dont think tmyapp would make him a mod if he didnt think he would be a good mod, but then again he could have paid him and please its only 3 days :buttrock:



Edited By TitanX59 on May 02 2004 at 11:13

[Resident Evil]

rest its just lucky he is a vip.. tmyapp doesnt want any vip bann.. and if he was a non vip he would of gotten ban for ever.. but the vip status saved him...

[EvilAkuma]

the VIP Stat doesn't matter if he save him to be banned for 3 days. I could do something bad and get banned 4evr. It's always better to read the rules. That why when you register, a rules list pop up, but people ignore it and don't know what it say. That y member that has 1-3 star read the rules. It saves ur life from getting banned

[Nosoul4Sfo]

seriously they are abusing there power they just banned you because they feel like it

arsb got banned for no reason thats what i think though

[Windarossa]

First of all, Restavega didnt just dismiss kingryu1's warnings. he sent him pms asking why it is happening to him and pointing out other spammers. and get this KINGRYU1 NEVER SENT ANYTHING BACK. Now your telling me this is a good mod? KingRyu1 had no liable excuse for not warning those others spammers and just seemed to have a grudge with my Rest.

And your talking about insulting SSJKARMA? KingRyu1 and Resident Evil were drawing first blood against Restavega by calling him an idiot. So don't talk about flaming or insulting. Show me once where he went off topic befores others didn't? Funny thing is other people would be ridiculously going off topic, then Resta would make a post and King would attack him for it. lets just put it this way.. KingRyu had something against rest and used his powers to shut him up. and now no one can do anything but suck up to their "Kingy"

its not the short 3 day ban... it's the principle. we can't keep letting these mods abuse their power when they have favoritism along with it.

[Saijin_Ryu]

its not the short 3 day ban... it's the principle. we can't keep letting these mods abuse their power when they have favoritism along with it.
No we cant just let people who have joined a week or so ago gallavanting around posting and talking back to people, when they have no right or respect to do so.
No mods are abusing their power, im at this forum more then most people and i can see how well they are doing of a job..

[SBYRD5]

LOL you love this dude.....sports defended me like that once lol.

My thoery is this I think rest took a screenshot of defeating Kingryu1(Bad mistake..lol).

So kingy probally hung around and everytime he made a little mistake he counted it as a strike.

And I think Rest might have madefun of people after winning...

You souldn't take screenshots just to taunt over someones head...

Man tats just not right when you guys beat someone and put the screenshot in your signature....thats just evil....lol

And I think Rest did the samething to kingy....

Or made fun of him in some sorta fashion after losing...

<span style='font-size:14pt;line-height:100%'>Again I say you guys have it lucky back in my day when you got banned it's over.</span>

Rest must of said something foul to king at one point.....

And king is just showing him howmuch power he has...

And I do not kissup to kingy....I've known all the members of NWO when they were of your status.....

I could rant at kingy all day.....I just choose to be polite to those who are polite to me....

Or show intelligence......or show heart in the game....and treat other members with respect...

Also kingryu1 got history in this community...it's not wise to make fun of the members of NWO if you don't know them well enough to do so....=/

I bet your going to say "but I see you spam all the time and Members of NWO don't do anythg to you since your a older member."

Yep your right....but I'v payed my debts to this community....and I've proven myself...time...after...time....after...time.

LOL, trust me you new people are being babied..

Back in my time it wasn't even safe to enter the chat if LordCyris was there...LMAO



Edited By SBYRD5 on May 02 2004 at 12:57

[MSI]

dude you are crazy no mods abuse there powers....they were all hand picked by tmy.....they are all tuff but fair...none of them do anything that isnt needed.....u should be suspened for saying that

[Windarossa]

So Rest should've sat back and let himself be called names... Rest never even talked back to KingRyu1 in an insulting way (even though KingRyu1 openly insulted him). Who he did talk back to was Resident Evil and pip99. Restavega should have talked back to king after kingryu1 abused him along with his childish name calling which was absolutely unnecessary.

Restavega has to have a RIGHT to talk to mods in disagreement?! All ofus as members build this community, we are the community. Not a few mods who are on a power trip. We overrun the mods in numbers 100x. unfortunetly many of you are hoping to benefit from sfo in more then just getting respect but becoming something big one day yourselves... *cough* mod, nwo *cough, cough*

KingRyu1 closed one of rests topics in the VIP forum... for no reason... the idea was hypothetical and therefore there were no grounds for rules based on the idea that TMyApp would necessarily follow. All of you who are VIPs or sponsored check it out... and where is KingRyu1 in this topic?... just asking.

[dark-guardian]

Nosoul4Sfo, asbrettaw didnt get banned for "no reason" he was banned for threating the game.

And windarosa just because Rest didnt get a pm back from Kingy dosent mean anything. How do you know that kingy didnt give out warnings to other spammers before and didnt wish to inform rest?

And Rest must be an idoit, if he gets a warning from a mod he should atleast tone down his post for a week or so. Its common sense. Like others said hes lucky he didnt get banned forever like Asbrettaw and others did.



you never saw his posts on Vets of 2001 topic.

Just becuase he didnt post on that topic dosent mean poop.

rest sent complaint letters to TMyApp AND Kingryu1 about these warning but KINGRYU1 never responded to his pms and neither did TMyApp to resolve this.

And whats your point? ALot of people send Pm's to tmyapp and other admins and they still dont get a reply. Ive posted in that topic where only mods and admins can read it and I got a reply from viper almost 2 weeks later. Tmyapp is a very busy guy and dosent have time to deal with this.

And like Karma said...respect all of the members of the forum. Right now your disrespecting Kingryu1. And dont think were disrespecting rest becuase were just telling the truth of the matter.

[Saijin_Ryu]

KingRyu1 closed one of rests topics in the VIP forum... for no reason... the idea was hypothetical and therefore there were no grounds for rules based on the idea that TMyApp would necessarily follow. All of you who are VIPs or sponsored check it out... and where is KingRyu1 in this topic?... just asking.
He closed the topic because Rest had his foolish question answered about the "higher VIPs" and he still continued to think that this was feasable! I think that you lot are mistaken about the different grounds on the forum where things are more and less allowed then others... For example: VIP forum isnt the same as RI, and the way his topic was going on, it seemed like it could be!

[SBYRD5]

Windrossa post your debate on justice here=

XMVSSF Court (http://nferno666.sytes.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=15545)

I guess I want to see how far you will got for Rest I guess...

[Windarossa]

Nosoul4Sfo, asbrettaw didnt get banned for "no reason" he was banned for threating the game.

And windarosa just because Rest didnt get a pm back from Kingy dosent mean anything. How do you know that kingy didnt give out warnings to other spammers before and didnt wish to inform rest?

And Rest must be an idoit, if he gets a warning from a mod he should atleast tone down his post for a week or so. Its common sense. Like others said hes lucky he didnt get banned forever like Asbrettaw and others did.



you never saw his posts on Vets of 2001 topic.

Just becuase he didnt post on that topic dosent mean poop.

rest sent complaint letters to TMyApp AND Kingryu1 about these warning but KINGRYU1 never responded to his pms and neither did TMyApp to resolve this.

And whats your point? ALot of people send Pm's to tmyapp and other admins and they still dont get a reply. Ive posted in that topic where only mods and admins can read it and I got a reply from viper almost 2 weeks later. Tmyapp is a very busy guy and dosent have time to deal with this.

And like Karma said...respect all of the members of the forum. Right now your disrespecting Kingryu1. And dont think were disrespecting rest becuase were just telling the truth of the matter.
How am I disrespecting KingRyu1? I am speaking the truth. The only person with disrespect is KingRyu1 by calling Rest an idiot and now you are backing KingRyu1 (which is beyond me). There is never any reason for this belittling and that is what KingRyu1 did to Rest but Rest was speaking up for his actions (in a defensive fashion, no name calling) and pointing out the spammers... that's why Rest was banned by your "Kingy."

funny thing is.... You say KingRyu1 and other admins don't reply sometimes... yet he had time to warn Rest in a PM a week ago and he banned him yesterday instead of discussing it in the pms Rest sent him back. Rest sent kingRyu pms atleast 4 days before the incident. KingRyu1 didn't have time to answer his pms, just had time to ban him? this is not a PM that was about "How was your day?" or "Whats TMyApps email?". this was about something severe that Rest want to talk to KingRyu1 about.


look up to your KingRyu1 if you'd like... but I have a right to say KingRyu1 is not a good mod...

[SBYRD5]

Windrossa post your debate on justice here=

<span style='font-size:17pt;line-height:100%'>XMVSSF Court (http://nferno666.sytes.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=15545)(Double Click Please)</span>

I guess I want to see how far you will got for Rest I guess...
Double click the link if you want to get your point across..windrossa....



Edited By SBYRD5 on May 02 2004 at 13:47

[Windarossa]

I am just getting my point accross just fine.

Even if I did go to this court topic, KingRyu1's actions can not be refuted by other mods. When you are a mod you cannot overule another mod. And Saijin, I saw your great spamming post in the millenium tournament topic along with pip99's post "lol Im happy".

Does this post of yours seem familiar to you Saijin " :0 "
What did KingRyu1 have to say about this? nothing until recently after i released this topic.

[Angel-Eyes]

I got banned when I was a 2002 #### for disrespecting the mods and one triple post..........harsh?

nope I deserved it and I learned my lesson

[Windarossa]

Triple posting is breaking the rules, Rest never tripled or double post!

[Roll]

It's amazing what only 15 hours allows to be said.

Sbyrd: This is NOT a topic to reminesce about the "good old days". Please don't bring your memories back into this place, because the past and the present are two seperate realities; be wise enough to not try and bring them together as one.

Resident: Being a VIP should change the rules. If what you said is true, then it is favoritism; which, in this case, means that everyone does have a right to be hateful toward Vip's.
The only true difference between us and non-vip members, is that we're under someones control.

Saijin: What you see and what you look at are two different things. If you didn't notice, Rest doesn't have a trace of spam visible to the eye on the forum. Point out to me where he really spammed; then tell me that he is honestly guilty of being a spammer. If you won't look into the problem, then you shouldn't even look at the problem in the first place. That is a way of life.

Dark-gaurdian: Why should we respect someone, if they aren't even going to be patient or show respect? Because they have "power"? No one deserves respect unless they actually can prove they earn it-- and I believe that Rest proved his worth quite a bit ago. Patience really is a virtue, isn't it?

This is not justice; this is just an excuse to ban someone. Honestly: "He posted too much."; can you tell me how much is too much? And was it ever nonsense? Can you also tell me how many of you posted much worse when you first started on the forum? I know I wasn't a prize when I first came in here. But were you or I ever banned for posting too much sense on the forum. Honest questions, and posts from the pure mind are never to be persecuted; particularly because I remember a lot of people stating things in topics (most of them being moderators) like "There is no such thing as a stupid question".
You want to know something very honest? Kingryu may be a moderator, and he may be someone that a few of you look up to, but he is not a great role model. He is the total opposite of a good role model. He is pompous, and somewhat greedy, egotistical, and very saucy as well. As a moderator, you'd think he'd care just a little more about others; but he didn't change much at all.
From what I can see and interpret, he is too busy being grumpy, and rude to care about anyone at all. And if you can prove me wrong, as in, show me proof that he has changed his priorities of caring towards others in this forum to be a much more thoughtful person, then know you will shock and/or amaze me. It would be razzmatazz for you to do that.

[Windarossa]

The people of this community deserve to know what is going on and that this belittling can happen to anyone with some mod/s floating around. I keep resieving pms from people telling me they are with me on this and that kingryu1 was wrong, but unfortunatly nothing can be done. If you are with me and know that this was unfair than why don't you do something about it, instead of just sending me your sorries and threats to end this topic!

restavaga is now on probation (a sugar coated name for BANNED because rest can barely post anywhere) because I spoke out and other people supported me. Goes to show you if you fight against something or someone that has done something openly cruel and irrational, things will be done (one way or the other).

So.. does anyone have any mods on their minds that like to abuse their power? (not necessarily a BAD thing... but I definitly have a mod on my mind). And don't tell me that's "Just the way they are" as their defense.. no reason at all for such actions. I thought a mod wasn't supposed to involve his own personal beliefs with his work. When your a mod you keep enforcement of rules, no more. It's about breaking the rules and being punished, not disliking someone that has different views and attacking them because you simply can. This KINGryu does not have absolute power.

What is this? Communism!?!?

AND I HAVE NOT CHALLENGED OR INSULTED ANYONE SO I WILL NOT REMOVE THIS TOPIC AND HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO HAVE THIS TOPIC.

[Angel-Eyes]

What is this? Communism!?!?
mabey...........its definately not a democracy thats for sure

[MSI]

LOL how ironic this topic is in random insanity....and it is insanity.....stopping disrespecting the mods...lol all there rules are fair...no soul gave me a warning one for spamming and but it next to my name for the next week i didnt post anything without thinking about it being spamming...and i still try make sure i dont spam...u see i learned my lesson...from a mod taking action..its the only way they will get there point across......or they could just ban everyone.....if they didnt use the power given to them people would walk alll over them as if they had no power.....this topic should have been closed a long time ago :angry: :angry:

[Saijin_Ryu]

Saijin: What you see and what you look at are two different things. If you didn't notice, Rest doesn't have a trace of spam visible to the eye on the forum. Point out to me where he really spammed; then tell me that he is honestly guilty of being a spammer. If you won't look into the problem, then you shouldn't even look at the problem in the first place. That is a way of life.
I have no idea why your siding roll, as you dont know all the facts yourself! Most of the spamming rest has done wa edited either by Kingy or by Himself! So there-fore we cant see why he was put on his 3 day ban.
I could point out to you when he was spamming but now its just leaded to warning to not spam!
And did he listen to these comments....no of course not, thats why we have this topic.

[Kingryu1]

-_-'

Windrossa: Yes, I have my reasons. I have warned him MANY times, and he didn't listen. So I showed Nferno the "evidence" of Restavegeta spamming, and he deserved it. We are now showing people that we are SERIOUS about people spamming and acting like idiots. And I'll tell you someone, I'm definatly not standing for spamming, I hate it. You may accuse me of being a "crap mod" or w/e, but I know i'm not. What I do is right.

Roll: I act how I want to act. I have a "grumpy" attitude, you have your sweet and kind attitude. I can be nice, but in situations like this, I am VERY grumpy.

@ everyone else: Shush. =)

[MSI]

well said king , i agree with u 100% about spamming...and resta had it coming he was posting about 40 post per day, if not more....and would reply to things that have already been answered or answer with a..lol..probably just to get more stars...lol

[Nferno666]

well looking at all this pages...you ppl are bitching and complaining about the wrong guy...it said banned by Kingryu1 BUT only admins can BAN someone...Kingryu did warn him MANY and i mean many times...i see things you ppl can't which are logs and edited posts showing their true posts before being edited...and Kingryu came to me and told me he warn this person many times...so i saw the logs and what did i see...exactly what he said. SPAMMING. i have no time to goto all the sections of this forums cause i'm to busy activating VIP accounts on the forum like *Windarossa* here...Kingryu did nothing wrong and is not to blame...i WILL be banning many ppl from now on if i see any SPAMMING of the sort and i don't care if your VIP or whatever...i went soft on the guy and made it 3 days...it should of been longer but i made it 3 days cause it's his 1st ban...VIP's are VIP's which is also why it wasn't so harsh...if it were to be a normal member it would be a week. another VIP who was banned or should i say is on probation is vipman4evr. sure hes VIP but i gave him a week ban cause he not only spams on the forum but the game it's self. i warn him many times and if you DON'T listen to be that NO good...nowback on to our victim...he 3 day ban is up and he was unbanned a few hours ago by me...

ok that's pretty much all i can say for now cause i got other things to do...and i see many of you are emailing TMyApp when it's not neccesary.

from now on only EMAIL TMyApp for in game password changes and termination issues..all other situations goto ME at Nferno666@hotmail.com and i'm SERIOUS about this...any email that is sent to TMyApp which is not conserning ingame passwords and terminations will either be deleted or never get an answer. For forum password changes that can goto any admin on the forum but it's best to leave TMyApp alone and do UPDATES instead of having him read hundreds of email which some1 else can answer...



Edited By Nferno666 on May 03 2004 at 15:25

[Restavega]

After reading all of these posts, I realize what ??!?? you really are (Saijin, Nferno666, KingRyu1, Resident Evil, MSI, and company). The partial judgement and biased inclinations in this forum are outstanding and I have had enough.

OVER FORTY POSTS PER DAY??!?!?! Insane exaggeration. I wasn't close to half of that.

MANY WARNINGS?!?! You should have discussed this over the pms, KingRyu1, but you didn't. And you should have left my original posts there instead of editting and erasing them. If you were so condifent they were spam you should've left them there for all to make their judgement. And last time I checked KingRyu1, you said you considered spam to be over 5 posts per day. I saw the whole forum had over 5 posts per day.. warn them. Pip99 seems to evade all these warnings in some miraculous way... I will have to ask him for his secret.

BTW... what it says in the "??!??" is up to you and clearly open for interpretation. So, don't even start.

For all of you big shot Mods.. don't worry about me anymore. I will seldom post on this ruined forum. I thank everyone who wasn't afraid to come forward and point out KingRyu1's undeserving leadership.

Thankyou dearly Roll and a very special thankyou to Windarossa...

KingRyu1... All I have to say is....pfff whatever. I'm through with you! :laugh:!!!

Windarossa, I'm coming over your house at 8:30 pm. Life goes on. :buttrock:



Edited By Restavega on May 03 2004 at 19:03

[Nferno666]

After reading all of these posts, I realize what ??!?? you really are (Saijin, Nferno666, KingRyu1, Resident Evil, MSI, and company). The partial judgement and biased inclinations in this forum are outstanding and I have had enough.

OVER FORTY POSTS PER DAY??!?!?! Insane exaggeration. I wasn't close to half of that.

MANY WARNINGS?!?! You should have discussed this over the pms, KingRyu1, but you didn't. And you should have left my original posts there instead of editting and erasing them. If you were so condifent they were spam you should've left them there for all to make their judgement. And last time I checked KingRyu1, you said you considered spam to be over 5 posts per day. I saw the whole forum had over 5 posts per day.. warn them. Pip99 seems to evade all these warnings in some miraculous way... I will have to ask him for his secret.

BTW... what it says in the "??!??" is up to you and clearly open for interpretation. So, don't even start.

For all of you big shot Mods.. don't worry about me anymore. I will seldom post on this ruined forum. I thank everyone who wasn't afraid to come forward and point out KingRyu1's undeserving leadership.

Thankyou dearly Roll and a very special thankyou to Windarossa...

KingRyu1... All I have to say is....pfff whatever. I'm through with you! :laugh:!!!

Windarossa, I'm coming over your house at 8:30. Life goes on. :buttrock:
what DON'T you get about me being able to view the original posts in the 1st place...i can access ALL and i mean all your posts and clearly see that about 50% of them WERE spamming...and i got rid of 70 posts since those posts were infact just plain spamming...as for pip yes he also is starting to be a SPAMMING which i will deal with if needed...i got nothing aggainst you or anyone else but the rules on this forum have not been enforce and now it's time for me to add that to my things to do list with everything else i do everything...YES roll this means less sleep than usual now



Edited By Nferno666 on May 03 2004 at 16:03

[pip99]

as for pip yes he also is starting to be a SPAMMING

Sorry yeah ive always been cool with you Nferno dont treat me like some ####.


spam

i said "sigh" cause this topic is a fliping joke.

How do i freaking spam?


Pip99 seems to evade all these warnings in some miraculous way... I will have to ask him for his secret.


Ive been here for ages yeah ive got respect so just shut up ####.

[Windarossa]

With the most respect to all mods and admins, All you do is defend kingryu1 saying that you have SEEN these horrible spammings done by Restavega, but none of you have presented me with any PROF!
You tell me you have looked in to this personally and than you conveniently mention howbusy you are to actually copy and paste these spams! If you did search for Restavega's spamming and found it, than you shouldn't have too much of a problem finding it again and pasting it right here to end this for good, but wait you can't, can you, because you happen to erase it for no reason!.
Restavega had a maximum of 10 posts per day! And if kingryu had bothered to answer one of Restavega's PMs, he would have known that Restavega was injured and stuck at home. AND Restavega DID tone down his posting after the warning, even though he knew he didn't spam! He couldn't understand Kingryu's reasoning for these irrational warnings, but ones again kingryu was conveniently BUSY to reply! The fact is, you saying you saw the spaming doesn't guarantee you did! But why is it always so conveniently erased ? or you being oh so conveniently busy?
so the answer is yes, i do have a mod on my mind who abuses their power!

[Restavega]

as for pip yes he also is starting to be a SPAMMING

Sorry yeah ive always been cool with you Nferno dont treat me like some ####.


spam

i said "sigh" cause this topic is a fliping joke.

How do i freaking spam?


Pip99 seems to evade all these warnings in some miraculous way... I will have to ask him for his secret.


Ive been here for ages yeah ive got respect so just shut up ####.
YOUVE BEEN HERE FOR AGES AND THEY DONT WARN YOU OR BAN YOU BECAUSE OF THIS!?!?!??!

FAVORITISM!!!

[Razz]

YOUVE BEEN HERE FOR AGES AND THEY DONT WARN YOU OR BAN YOU BECAUSE OF THIS!?!?!??!

FAVORITISM!!!
I can only say one thing ... Burn!

[Nferno666]

With the most respect to all mods and admins, All you do is defend kingryu1 saying that you have SEEN these horrible spammings done by Restavega, but none of you have presented me with any PROF!
You tell me you have looked in to this personally and than you conveniently mention howbusy you are to actually copy and paste these spams! If you did search for Restavega's spamming and found it, than you shouldn't have too much of a problem finding it again and pasting it right here to end this for good, but wait you can't, can you, because you happen to erase it for no reason!.
Restavega had a maximum of 10 posts per day! And if kingryu had bothered to answer one of Restavega's PMs, he would have known that Restavega was injured and stuck at home. AND Restavega DID tone down his posting after the warning, even though he knew he didn't spam! He couldn't understand Kingryu's reasoning for these irrational warnings, but ones again kingryu was conveniently BUSY to reply! The fact is, you saying you saw the spaming doesn't guarantee you did! But why is it always so conveniently erased ? or you being oh so conveniently busy?
so the answer is yes, i do have a mod on my mind who abuses their power!
you have to understand that this proof you speak of you will not be able to see since it has been edited but i can view it and i CANNOT link you because it's only meant for AMINISTRATORS to see..if i were to link you then you would tell you that you are not allowed...i know that you and your friend there are upset but you could of always came to me in the 1st place and spoken to me if kingryu wasn't resonding to you guys..i'm here to listen to what ppl have to say and i try my best to help those that are in need but sometimes i have no time to get on the forum much cause i have other things do to like update the bot filter/keep DOR server up and running at all times and have to watch the SFO rooms constently and kick those that the bot misses...

[Hollis]

yea, all you had to do was talk to TMyApp, or A mod about it.. you didn't have to take it this far.



Edited By Hollis on May 03 2004 at 19:38

[Nferno666]

yea, all you had to do was talk to TMyApp, or A mod about it.. you didn't have to take it this far.
read my post will you...i clearly said ONLY email TMyApp if you need to change your ingame password or if you've been terminated...all other question can goto me at Nferno666@hotmail.com

[Hollis]

sorry, i didn't read the whole topic..
i only read what you posted, and what windrassa posted at the beggining, no big deal..

[Restavega]

When mods can't do their job correctly, I will always go straight to TMyApp.

[Nferno666]

When mods can't do their job correctly, I will always go straight to TMyApp.
i can tell you 90% of the time that you do that he will not answer it...but forward it to that mod that your complaining about...like i said i have nothing aggainst you and will be gettings those that spam, but that when i have time which i hardly ever do...but if it means getting less sleep then i'll do whatever to keeps every1 from fighting and complaining on but he does this and he does that...

[Windarossa]

Nferno666, I didnt even know who you were untill this day! And that is not the point. Surely You must see how unfair this action is coming out to be!
Restavega is warned and he Does take it in to consideration and instead of arguing he sends king a pm asking him what he has done wrong. Instead of adding coal to fire by calling names and editing posts, KingRyu1 could have simply replied saying he didn't like Restas spamming and he could have brought in a few examples that he felt were spamming. I assure you Restavega would have NEVER repeated a similar post! But kings pm "stop spamming" was not understood. Restavega has never spamed, I knowbecause i post at all the plasses he does. I go where Rest goes! And ive seen with my own eyes that 90% of the time Rest posted more than a few sentences! That is exactly why Rest couldnt understand how he was spamming!

Nferno666, I am Restavega's girlfriend and i read every word that boy posts and follow him in to every topic! I know he didn't deserve this. And you must understand that I'm suspicious of your actions because i know king made a mistake and I know you have to cover up for him. I understand your possition, but please understand mine. I'm new and so is Restavega and it is not in our nature to get kicked around! If he spamed, you would go out of your way to just paste his spamming post and shut me up. The fact that you are just giving me excusses shows me you dont have the PROOF! You obviously have a high status around here and im sure you can bend the rules ones to show that your friend, Kingryu1 is innocent. I just want an apology from KingRyu1 to Restavega for messing up his weekend and his love for this forum!

[Roll]

MSI: You do not understand, do you? This topic isn't to complain about the moderators using their powers, it's how one person used their power. We disagree with it, and someone has finally stepped up to the plate to complain about it. If you ask me, certain "ones" are lucky that Windarossa did not place this up in the General Comments and Discussion section (where this actually should be, and is legal enough to be inside of).

Saijin: What I understand is for me to interpret, not you. I do understand enough of this in order for me to be able to figure out who is doing what. Because of what I saw from him already, and I have seen it, I am defending him. I've seen little wrong with his ways as of yet. Maybe a bit of straying here and there, but (if ever) a previous distraction was needed. Whether you wish to believe it or not, I think he is being picked on by a few people on this forum who have a bit of influence on people. You can find out their identity; you're a smart boy.

KingRyu: Ah, the supposedly wise and mighty man doth speak his peace in the world of contempt. A brave soul, you are. However, I'd like to point out to you that you absolutely cannot just single out one person if you say you are going to be absolute about your ruling. For this, I am angered and brought up against you. You may act as you please; I care not. However, when you deal with something that is the least bit important, I need to ask you to take it seriously.

The keyword, of course, is ask. Knowing you, you will either stare at the words and mistake their meaning, or you will ignore it altogether. I commend you, though, for having enough patience to not blow your top.

Pip: Don't call people that word. Just because you've been here longer does not give you the right, and I'd hope you to be wise enough to remember that.

Razz: Razz, he is not in any deserving of any punishment. What he says is true, and I don't see any, and I MEAN any statements against this anywhere. In fact, I've only seen confessions to them.
....And why haven't you posted yet?

[Nferno666]

Nferno666, I didnt even know who you were untill this day! And that is not the point. Surely You must see how unfair this action is coming out to be!
Restavega is warned and he Does take it in to consideration and instead of arguing he sends king a pm asking him what he has done wrong. Instead of adding coal to fire by calling names and editing posts, KingRyu1 could have simply replied saying he didn't like Restas spamming and he could have brought in a few examples that he felt were spamming. I assure you Restavega would have NEVER repeated a similar post! But kings pm "stop spamming" was not understood. Restavega has never spamed, I knowbecause i post at all the plasses he does. I go where Rest goes! And ive seen with my own eyes that 90% of the time Rest posted more than a few sentences! That is exactly why Rest couldnt understand how he was spamming!

Nferno666, I am Restavega's girlfriend and i read every word that boy posts and follow him in to every topic! I know he didn't deserve this. And you must understand that I'm suspicious of your actions because i know king made a mistake and I know you have to cover up for him. I understand your possition, but please understand mine. I'm new and so is Restavega and it is not in our nature to get kicked around! If he spamed, you would go out of your way to just paste his spamming post and shut me up. The fact that you are just giving me excusses shows me you dont have the PROOF! You obviously have a high status around here and im sure you can bend the rules ones to show that your friend, Kingryu1 is innocent. I just want an apology from KingRyu1 to Restavega for messing up his weekend and his love for this forum!
i am not one to lie about thins like this...trust me if i could show you the proof i would but i am not one to bend the rules...the only person who can bend the rules is TMyApp himself and he trust me and the other administrators to follow his rules and make sure things that are only meant to be seem by us stay that way...like i said...there is no way of me linking you to those edited posts because you wont be allowed in there in the 1st place since your not an mod or admin. i am already on ppls cases about spamming and have just banned coolkilla for a WHOLE week for his actions in other topic and will try to get all those who start spamming...i'm sure your bf didn't mean to spam and like i said i removed those spam posts from his account so all the posts/stars he has now are clean :biggrin: so no1 can call him a spammer now. i'm sure he does care about the community and ppl do makes mistakes but ppl do learn from their mistakes and i'm telling you that hes not being picked on by me. i never noticed this topic nor do i come in this section because most of the topics in this section are not really that important to me since it's "RI" i try to stick to the improtant topics which ppl need help or need questions answered...but i will try to view all the topics as much and possible and punish those that are spamming...

[Windarossa]

[quote:post_uid10="Nferno666"]...and i got rid of 70 posts since those posts were infact just plain spamming...[/quote:post_uid10]
Nferno666, I am sorry for putting you on the spot like this!

But WHY would you get rid of evidence that were so crucial to this discussion!?[B] Evidence that could have proved Restavega wasn't a spammer! How did you find the time to search for 70 posts and erase and edit them all?( considering you NEVER have time, like you always say)



Edited By Windarossa on May 03 2004 at 22:04

[Nferno666]

...and i got rid of 70 posts since those posts were infact just plain spamming...
Nferno666, I am sorry for putting you on the spot like this!

But WHY would you get rid of evidence that were so crucial to this discussion!?[B] Evidence that could have proved Restavega wasn't a spammer! How did you find the time to search for 70 posts and erase them?
you don't have to be sorry for anything :biggrin: but as for your qestion...i got those post within seconds with a search on his name and posts he made and it showed me what he said in those posts one after another...and clearly it was spam so i got rid of it so that those topics could be clean like most topics will be from now on..

[Windarossa]

Every one must see how shady you are being in this situation. RESTAVEGA CARES ABOUT "THE COMMUNITY"!?!?!!!The day Restavega was banned he donated ten dollars! No one became sponsered, no one became a vip, and no one benefited! He donated to show RESPECT and DEDICATION to the game! TMyApp knows that rest respects The community and out of all the thing you could have done, you deleted all trases of Rests innocence.
You don't know Restavega but the TMyApp knows his donations well and would have gottan to know them better.

How IRONIC!!The same game Restavega tries to make better for "The Community", stabs him in the back!



Edited By Windarossa on May 03 2004 at 22:16

[SBYRD5]

Funny how we all act ignorant in the R.I. section.

*sigh* Honestly I have changed alot lately the old me would've debated tell dawn over someone that was banned like a murder then covered up like a crime scene.

*ahem*After studying EVERY post of this topic I've realized how others have been influencing me lately...

You know Nferno I've studied your style and kingy's style for awhile.

I believe kingryu1 did make a mistake and you are covering up for him bro.

Since you are an adminstrator now Nferno you can access such files. At anytime.

Also these are the problems you must confront.

And *sigh* Don't give me the special treatment anymore....I spam much worst than Rest ever did or ever...will.

Start banning me also then man....=/

(I don't even like who I am anymore now anyway....And this appears to be discrimanation against new members.)

And windrossa and Rest have clearily shown they are not ignorant members.....so they deserve such respect....as you would give me man...=/*hmm*



Edited By SBYRD5 on May 03 2004 at 23:23

[Restavega]

Here we have KingRyu1 crossing the line and insulting me. This is a respectable Mod? This link speaks for it self.


http://img6.imageshack.us/my.php?loc=img6&image=rightevidence.jpg

[Windarossa]

OMG! Look at the hypocracy!
Kingryu says Resta is spamming and breaking the rules with NO evidence, meanwhile people are standing as witnesses to Restas defense that he was NOT a spammer.

And now Resta has posted a link to prove that Kingryu1 isn't a good mod to begin with...Rest youre a geniuse to take that screenshot before "kingy" got a chance to do some editing.

Lets laugh at KingRyu1 for openly and publicly breaking his own rules. And this is our role model, the one we are supposed to look up to and follow? Why should Restavega subdue to punishement while KingRyu1 walks away untouched?

Look at the poor example KingRyu1 has set forth, yet he expects us to abide by the rules!? If we were all like "kingy", we would be banned every day!

What happens when the enforcer breaks the law?

[SBYRD5]

Kingryu1....it would be wise to just apolgize for the miscommunication.

This problem doesn't seem to be fading away...

And he sorta has evidence....and well....

Evidence can not be denied....

...you can ignore it...but there is truth in evidence...of a fresh screen shot...

These members seem to realize when there being cheated...or stepped on...

I believe your in the wrong kingy.....you could've handled the matter more...better than you did....

In a nicer and more clear manner...

It would appear you [b:post_uid8]Do owe Rest an apology for a miscommunication[/b:post_uid8].

That is .....*fact*



Edited By SBYRD5 on May 03 2004 at 23:29

[Nferno666]

Every one must see how shady you are being in this situation. RESTAVEGA CARES ABOUT "THE COMMUNITY"!?!?!!!The day Restavega was banned he donated ten dollars! No one became sponsered, no one became a vip, and no one benefited! He donated to show RESPECT and DEDICATION to the game! TMyApp knows that rest respects The community and out of all the thing you could have done, you deleted all trases of Rests innocence.
You don't know Restavega but the TMyApp knows his donations well and would have gottan to know them better.

How IRONIC!!The same game Restavega tries to make better for "The Community", stabs him in the back!
the ividence is still there...but you normal member can NOT access it...i said i took 70 posts away and i did..meaning i took 70 post amounts...not actual post...every single post hes ever made is still here but if you count then one by one your get more then tha ammount he has now...for example lets say he had 350 posts TOTAL but i minused 70 from it which is 280..all 350 posts are still in the forum but as his stars/posts will show is 280 non of his POSTS were deleted...i just changed the number in his account...

[Restavega]

How exactly is the evidence still there if we can't see it?...

And please don't ignore the current posts, Nferno666.

[Nferno666]

How exactly is the evidence still there if we can't see it?...

And please don't ignore the current posts, Nferno666.
there are hidden sections of the board where post/topics get moved to take action if neccesary...

[Restavega]

How exactly is the evidence still there if we can't see it?...

And please don't ignore the current posts, Nferno666.
there are hidden sections of the board where post/topics get moved to take action if neccesary...
Okay.. let's get over that topic, Nferno666, because it's evidence that may not even exist for all we know and has had no virtual impact on this discussion.

On the other hand, I have presented REAL evidence for everyone to see.

And please if you don't mind, Nferno666, address the most current posts if you dare will.

[Windarossa]

The evidence you speak of is only basicly availeble to you, which isn't evidence because it turns in to just your word. How can you punish him withought Evidence!? You claim you saw it! That doesn't mean you did! You deleted a crap load of posts that I bet you didn't even read! I've seen virtuely every post Restavega has made and im asking you to rewrite a post that you believe was a spam. Lets see if Restavega ever posted "lol" or " :0 "or my favorite "cool". Restavega has never posted anything shorter than a sentence and i personaly don't consider that spamming.

Lets review the evidence shall we.....
1.i like to call this one (he said, she said)
Restavega: Has defenders openly stating they have searched and did NOT find spamming material posted by Rest!
KingRyu1: Nferno666 openly claims he saw these outragiously spamy posts, Unfortunatly he was so repulsed by them!! He decides to erase them!(still under close observation for having to tampered with the evidence and for giving meaningless excusses)

2.(excusses,excusses)
Restavega:Claims he did NOT spam and tryed resolving the warnings and this issue by Pms. Rest admitts to seeing this warnings but not understanding their context after which he constantly attempts to send resolution pms.
KingRyu1:Admitts to having sent the warnings several times. Unfortunatly he was way to busy to reply to this resolution pms and continued to warn Restavega withough explaination.

3.(how"the beefing"began)
Restavega:Posts a topic Discussing the hypothetical idea ofuVIP(UltimateVIP). Where the players could pay a certain amount of money to have more special little percs, allowing the tmyapp to easily afford to pay for the server and maybe even get some sort of pay check out of this for him self. Kingryu1 in shock of this insolence!! Locks the topic, but not withought adding a few very disrespectful words from himself.
Kingryu1:Rejected this very foreign idea and even felt to take it upon him self to end the audacity!! Not to mantion adding a little word bonus which supposedly sparked the ever growing fire between the two!

4.(the torture)
Restavega:Even though upset and in distress, Restavega does what he belives will save him. Emailing the tmyapp,followed by pming king himself! Which as we all know didnt work. He began to feel alone and threatend and came to the conclusion that he should just mind his own business and the problem might go away!*aghh* but it was not so. The constant PUBLIC negativity and hatered he had to indure when kingryu1 would post after him calling him names and taunting him like a child.
KingRyu1:Believed that Restavega was a no good spammer, that had to be taught a lesson. Careful forethought to avoid danger or harm kingryu1 send a warning to restavega. At the first warning rest replies with a pm, asking his mod for explanation of his accusations,unfortunatly Kingryu1 was already busy sending another warning and calling names that he must have deleted it by mistake*hey its possible! After the same story occured three times kingryu1 felt it was his duty to elliminate all signs of threat! so comes the banning!

5.(the HARD FACTS)
Restavega:Sends to us this briliantly taken snapshot of the first collision. AND.... oh my! I believe Restavega has proven the harasment that he had to indure. The dates and the names dont lie! kingryu1 did infact start to show extreme unprofessionalism on the job! He did indead insult Restavega and indead he took of his glove and smacked restavegas face*if you sqwint your eyes and focus hard you can see the glove hitting resta in the eye, causing him unbelievable pain and suffering...even though on the floor hurting and bleeding. Restavega attemts one last time to prove that he isn't the delinquent (Presumed to be true and real without conclusive evidence}.. he has been made out to be by kingryu and com.(by donating REAL support that will be used for the bettering of the community and its dwellers.
Kingryu1:#NO HARD EVIDENCE HAS BEEN SUBMITTED#
there was a qoute he and his com. liked to use a lot
" we/i/he/she was way to busy to notice/respond/care"

6. (The unfairly painful conclusion&^()
Restavega:The ruling decided to BAN Restavega and then put him on PROBATION followed by the strip search and robbery of the oh so desurved metals of honer that Restavega ones urned! Not to mention a public stomp on the bolles that will be held in town for show and tell!
KinRyu1:NO COMMENT!

*unfair, dishonest, unlawful, simple mokery of law and fake!

[Restavega]

ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT, WIND. Thankyou for taking the time to sum that all up...

As you have all noticed, Nferno666 has been ignoring the current posts with my evidence of KingRyu1's poor action and so on. Cat got your tongue, Nferno? It should because what have you really got to say?

If KingRyu1 was man enough he would do as Sbyrde suggests and apologize to me. KingRyu1 brought this whole mess onto himself and therefore his now tainted name is no one's fault but his. This mess of his also costs me enough pain, suffering, and humiliation when being called a spammer and trying to defend myself. I believe all the followers backing KingRyu1 have become quite speechless and KingRyu1 himself has turned out to be silent as an eggplant.

Feel free to apologize, KingRyu1, when your pride subsides. And if you wouldn't mind... do it publicly the same way you insulted me.

[SSJKarma]

ok, now i got enough, i asked you people to respect others, yet first thing you do is disrespect nferno666 (bringer of a whole chat server for you to enjoy) of being the most liar man ever just because you THINK that there liying !

seriously, i tryed roll, i tryed keeping this up and running like you said because you wanted people to see how it goes, but seriously, who would enjoy seeing this go on even more ?

we always wanted it this way and it will always be this way.
i past the last 3 years here, i didn't get any more respect because i was here after a long time, i earned it the hard way, by respecting the mods decisions and by TMyApp himself i swear i earned it and many mods still don't like me for who i am !

you think we should go soft opn you guys because you are new ?
PEOPLE DIDN'T GO SOFT ON ME !
the police wouldn't go soft on you in your life just because you didn't mean to be there !
so why would we be soft on you guys ?

in any cases... i seen this going too far and so is probably the others mods !
you guys picked on the wrong man here !
a 3 day ban and you brag about it...
TOKEN WAS BANNED FOR LIFE !!!!!!!!!!!
did he ever asked his friends to defend him ? no he didn't and took his punishment like a man !

one more thing...
let the evidence there ?
what kind of idiot are you ?
who would want to keep all the spam here ?
you ? windarossa ?
believe me, if we had kept this forum not clean all this time, you wouldn't even have liked to join in in the first place !
so i suggest you think a bit before saying that again !

now this topic is closed for good, any one who will start another topic about this matter i swear whoever it is... that person is gonna get banned, and not just for a week !

*********** EDIT ******************
you're lucky NFerno666 asked me to make this be open for one or so more post by some other people... but my warnings still remains, we are on the verge of exploding so any more stupidities and we will severe !



Edited By SSJKarma on May 04 2004 at 01:33

[blanka09]

lol... Oh.... my.... God!

So this is what has transpired in just 2 days??? . Eight pages ofus forum members bitching at each other. As much as I enjoy the idea of a forum upheaval, I must state that this was done the wrong way. Sure it's okay for ppl to learn the truth.. but I guess we all have our breaking points right?? heh

Okay.. to weigh both sides and choose whether or not I want to be for the dark side or join Luke Skywalker would be the reasonable thing to do. However, I'll show you all something. This is what happens when we mistake intelligence and brillaince for wisdom and experience. See no one is wrong.. in all honesty.. for we have just spoken our minds. Apart from ppl posting replies like

yeah.. he's right.. listen to him.. and then they quote a huge block of reply made by a higher power.

In all honesty, what I see is a major misunderstanding between not just our friends... *cough* Kingryu1 and Restavega, but everyone in the forum that chose to post a reply here.. by either bad mouthing a mod, saying they are incompetent... or pointing out their mistakes or saying Restavega deserved to be banned for three days.

Try and understand both sides of the equation. There's Restavega and his lady's view.. the dude couldn't do anything mobile.. for sometime, so he did the next best thing. Stayed on the forum.. reply.. gave his opinion here and there. I don't see anything wrong with that... but I wouldn't have known the reasons behind his high amount of posts if I had just looked at the outer layer of the whole situation. Why has he replied or started topics that have earned him a total amount of posts of about 326 or so in the short time that he's been on the forum.. Well, let's see... how about the fact that the dude had nothing else to do but chill out in the forum that he likes so much.

Now don't get me wrong.. I'm not saying Restavega is Mr. Ghost here.. and is invisible from all the blame. Just try and read my reply.. before blowing my head off.

Then there's Kingryu1.. who thinks beyond reasonable doubt that Mr. Restavega deserves to be banned from the forum for spamming. He undoubtedly has reasons and proof. Now Windarossa.. like you, I also want to see this proof.. But you must understand that there are a few things that we have no access to in this forum. Even if Nferno666 or some other mod were to link us where this so-called proof is, we wouldn't be able to view it. So let's at least give them the benefit of doubt.. and believe in their words that they infact have enough proof to find Restavega guilty as charged.. but like you and I know now.. he had nothing else to do but stay on the forum.... so he shouldn't be banned.. should he??

Where this "thing" went hay wire.. was when Kingryu1 called Restavega an idiot.. right from that time, I knew something like this was gonna happen. Knowing fully well, that Restavega doesn't take insults likely.. and Kingryu1.. is just.. well.. let's just say a "meh" kinda guy. See.. maybe you shouldn't have called him an idiont.. even though closing the topic was wise.. but calling the guy an idiot.. was a little too harsh. And I'm guessing that's where all this bad blood began to build.

Now what I'm saying here is, no matter how you look at this, each party would find himself right.. and wouldn't accept to his/her own folly. I'm not here to judge or say whether or not Restavega and Windarossa have every right to go against the community for being "harsh" to them... or whether or not Kingryu1 or Nferno666 ... or whoever banned Restavega was right to do so.. or like you put it, abusing their power. However, joining this forum.. as a normal member.. would mean that you're subjected to their power.. and how they choose to use.. well, let's just say.. all we can do is bitch about it.

What I do want us to know is that how it started doesn't matter anymore. We've all let out the necessary steam needed to be let out.. and every other person has heard the other side of the story. I believe from this time forth, Kingryu1 would be forthcoming with his warnings.. and have a little more control about the names he gives ppl that break the rules... eh?? Now calling them idiots wouldn't stop them from spamming would it?? :biggrin:

And Restavega, try and understand... this is not the first time this has happened.. nor would it be the last.. but when things like this happen.. I believe it's best to calm down.. smack our heads.. and not let our emotions take the better ofus. I always say this to those close to me.. The more you let ur emotions take control of you.. or wierd sides to ur personality.. that you urself do not understand would begin to show forth.

And if we keep on arguing till kingdom come, Kingryu1 may not apologize to Restvega for calling him an idiot..or for banning him (whether it was wrong or right.. in which case, I see no reason for an apology).. neither will Restavega see anything wrong with mode of conduct for the past 3 weeks that he's been on the forum. The result; more and more.. and more and more and more incoherent blabbing of how much wisdom.. or how right one party is, while trying to show how wrong the other party is.

It shouldn't have to lead to this.. even though I'm happy this happened.. It lets us see the true monster/reasonable human in all ofus.

I myself, am not a respecter of persons.. it's my code and what I believe in. However, I give honor to whom it is due... and I believe that it's my duty to respect the mods.. no matter how pig headed or unreasonable they are. That's the way this forum is. I remember reading some of the rules that state that.. But seeing that that has been tossed out of the window, well let's allow the flame and heat to die out as well.

For anyone who takes time to read all the "words", I've just written, note down the fact that I haven't send so so so and so is wrong.. while the other person is right... because I don't need to. Even if I go with one side, what'll that lead to.. more bitching and more anger being displayed by members of the forum.. until a mod/admin has enough and decides to lock down this topic.

In conclusion, guys, just let it go! I believe, Kingryu1 has had his share of bread and butter.. seeing that he isn't invisible to critism.. and Restavega.. try to understand that not everyone would see the saint in you.. or believe that you are right all the time.. For as humans, we make mistakes. What you term as not spam.. may be spam to the mods and admins.. and with that, I believe they have reserved the rights to ban you on those grounds.. so in all honesty you wouldn't have a say.

So let's just take this as a learning process.. and learn from our mistakes. :biggrin: After all, Restavega isn't banend anymore.. and Kingryu1 is.. well, still a moderator (not that any bitching would have led him to be anything short of what he is.. :biggrin: )

-- Thanks to any soul who reads this in advance. :biggrin:

-blanka09.

[Windarossa]

I can see that you tryed presenting your point as delicately as possible but reading your reply for the thurd time just leads me further to believing that you, just like every one else in this forum want to roll over and play dead. Sure you didnt come right out and say you were supporting the mods, oh wait you did! "I give honor to whom it is due... and I believe that it's my duty to respect the mods.."

This whole forum seems to be mortified with the idea of power. One thing i learned from being on this forum, people dont make long meaningful posts withought a future possition some where deep down in their subconsious. I made Mine to defend the love of my life you made yours for...... well i have a few ideas on why you made yours, but that doesn't matter now does it. You have come Between the fued and made it all swell again. Blame me for being ignorant and not hearing your "words", for i think i hear your words better than any one else.



Edited By Windarossa on May 04 2004 at 03:34

[blanka09]

That's exactly what I was trying my very best to avoid while posting there Windarossa.. See I'm not supporting the mods.. however, I respect them.. hey, they are mods after all. And if we are to stay here, I believe it's only right we respect them. Neither am I saying Restavega was wrong.... and should be remained banned... or he was totally right.. and shouldn't have been banned. For in all honesty, I don't have any say.. even if I cared a lot more. My rantings and bitching wouldn't do anything.. so why should I??

That's why I think it's best we let sleeping dogs lie.. and quit trying to add fuel to the fire... I believe Restavega has served his time... and he's free to post and reply and do whatever he wants to do in the forum.. I can't go back in time and stop Kingryu1 from banning him (if I could) neither can you or I.. so what would future rantings do for us? Get us into each others skin.. that's all. And frankly it isn't healthy. That's why the hidden message of my under read epistle was.. let sleeping dogs lie! Not to be stupid.. but even if every single soul was for you.. and agreed that Kingryu1 was a fool for banning Restavega... what would happen? :biggrin:



Edited By blanka09 on May 04 2004 at 03:53

[nosoul4evr]

Umm..yeah, oookay.
Rest has been restored.
Soo..Uhh.. This topic is now CLOSED.



Edited By nosoul4evr on May 04 2004 at 04:18