How many people from 2001 post - I mean post often,

[abc123test]

0 o I was looking around when I thought about this,

How many people from 2001 are active and post, I see no one I remember from 2001 still posting. Not counting how many people from 2001 play the game. 0 o

In the game I only see 1 other person from 2001 who play often. (Besides mods/admins)

Lancer PX,

On the forum there are only about 2-4 people who post OFTEN (besides mods/admins)

Lancer,cydrops aka master jay,asshole and me

0 O

We are all most a dieing race and I have tried countless times to e-mail people from 2001 to come back and stay and play once more. Most never e-mailed me back and the ones that did had grown too old to want to play this game. Its like every one just poped up and left.

The ones that did come back only stayed for a day or two and left. I don't get why but they did.

So what are your thoughts on this is it almost ok to say people from 2001 are almost extinct?



Edited By abc123test on Aug. 01 2004 at 07:20

[Master_Jay]

I'm still apart of the 2001 species... Just on a different user name if anyone remembers cydrops or DJ Masta late 2001...



Edited By Master_Jay on July 31 2004 at 18:24

[EvilAkuma]

0 o I was looking around when I thought about this,

How many people from 2001 are active and post, I see no one I remember from 2001 still posting. Not counting how many people from 2001 play the game. 0 o

In the game I only see 1 other person from 2001 who play often. (Besides mods/admins)

Lancer PX,

On the forum there are only about 2-4 people who post OFTEN (besides mods/admins)

Lancer, asshole and me

0 O

We are all most a dieing race and I have tried countless times to e-mail people from 2001 to come back and stay and play once more. Most never e-mailed me back and the ones that did had grown too old to want to play this game. Its like every one just poped up and left.

The ones that did come back only stayed for a day or two and left. I don't get why but they did.

So what are your thoughts on this is it almost ok to say people from 2001 are almost extinct?
what can i say they just leave i won't leave because i'm not letting this game died. Evil leaves ya be crying

[alamgir]

0 o I was looking around when I thought about this,

How many people from 2001 are active and post, I see no one I remember from 2001 still posting. Not counting how many people from 2001 play the game. 0 o

In the game I only see 1 other person from 2001 who play often. (Besides mods/admins)

Lancer PX,

On the forum there are only about 2-4 people who post OFTEN (besides mods/admins)

Lancer, asshole and me

0 O

We are all most a dieing race and I have tried countless times to e-mail people from 2001 to come back and stay and play once more. Most never e-mailed me back and the ones that did had grown too old to want to play this game. Its like every one just poped up and left.

The ones that did come back only stayed for a day or two and left. I don't get why but they did.

So what are your thoughts on this is it almost ok to say people from 2001 are almost extinct?
what can i say they just leave i won't leave because i'm not letting this game died. Evil leaves ya be crying
OMG how nice the forum was without ya...j/k. Well I never joined the forum in 2001 but i started playing the game then tho. I think all the ones u said abc, are the only ones who post here.



Edited By alamgir on July 31 2004 at 23:52

[Master_Jay]

I think all the ones u said abc, are the only ones who post here.

Including me...

[EvilAkuma]

I been on the game like a long time but not on forum

[abc123test]

Ya but, I don't see why so many people can just get up and leave the game. 0 0 I mean look at it there were 200 people at the most back in 2001 who played the game now outa 200 only 4-7 people post 0 0. What are the odds of that. By next year there might be no one from 2001 left. Or who knows mabe something will happen and every one will come back.

[MaDPoWer]

I'm back.

I joined this forum August 9th of 2001.

[alamgir]

I think all the ones u said abc, are the only ones who post here.

Including me...
1 month could mean a lot lol but your close enough.

[MasterKi]

im a 2oo1 veT

[TJ5]

I am still active =/

[TarkanX]

Yes, it is very sad; sad that there aren't many from 2001 anymore, the past great fighters of 2001 have moved on with this game, the ones that are asked to come back only do to see what the game is like, then leave again. There will be a point where non-mods/admins from 2001 won't be here anymore (on a regular basis). It is a sad thing, but there's nothing we can do to stop it; if you ask someone from the past to come back, they will, only for a day to a week at most. We just have to move on, we can't change the past, the people that register now, in 2 years, will be considered veterans of the game, besides, we always have our memories.

Heck, Abc123test: Even those from 2001 who are very dedicated to this game will find the game unappealing or conflicting with other things in their lives, so they will have to forfeit playing the game.

[dominicankid098]

And it's even sadder to know the decrease in skill from 2001-2002... which dropped dramatically... damn back in 2001 i used to struggle to get myself in top 20... now it is so easy... it feels like the top scores got tweaked... i used to love joining tournaments back then especially Zing79's first TOC which was the greatest of all time... i had alot of fun... even tho i lost to TarkanX (but still got to beat silvergo, silver-n-gold, akuma, and ssjvegeta### ... then moved on and changed my name to Stillmatic and got 86-0 till Koopsta beat me for my first loss with that name... Also i got RUNNER UP position for mastaq's BRAWL FOR ALL on my name LancerPX...

i fought the best and beat the best at least once (airlock, professor, baller, troy88, fear-tetsuo, etc)... the only one i havent beaten is tarkanx

I got a lot of history in this game and people dont really know it... AND IM NOT DONE MAKING HISTORY YET!!! SO I WILL BE IN THIS GAME... FOR A LITTLE LONGER UNTIL I GET MY RESPECT (on top of TarkanX's) lmao j/p buT I WILL GET MY RESPECT!! someday
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BIGGEST POINT HERE IS HOW THE COMMUNITY CHANGED.. it used to be alot of fun... even the forum.. especially when senshukentaikai was around...

[abc123test]

The community has changed alot, and with it most of the people hav chaged with it and now they have diff. things too do then the game.

I think one of the many resons people come for a few days and leave is. Thats it is too hard to catch up on what has happened since they left.I mean when I came back in feb. I had to spend allmost a day seeing what I had missed out on.


Well, I think we have to look at the facts now. 3-100% will some one from back in 2001 come back and post on a regular basic.

I think one day I as well will find something that has happened in my life and wish to play the game no longer. As for every one will too.

[Liger Zero]

Well Im Here, And Thats All That Counts, Or Does It :(

[Razz]

I still post somewhat often, but pretty much only in RI. RI's my baby.

[KidKrazyShit]

And it's even sadder to know the decrease in skill from 2001-2002... which dropped dramatically... damn back in 2001 i used to struggle to get myself in top 20

BIGGEST POINT HERE IS HOW THE COMMUNITY CHANGED.. it used to be alot of fun... even the forum.. especially when senshukentaikai was around...
I feel your pain lancer. I registered for the game in Oct. 01. I remember it taking months afterwards to reach the top 20. I think I $hit a break when I got rank 20. but or course know one knew who the hell I was till months and months after registering.

I, too, miss the senshuk forum. Damn those were some good times. Then when Zing introduced TOC3. Where, unlike the previous TOC's, you had to send him your daily wins. I actually made it to the Sweet 16. Then when things were looking great I saw my first opponent in the Sweet 16: The X-Man himsef, TarkanX. To make a long story short, he rapped me beyond belief...oh the good times.

Sorry, got side tracked their while going down memory lane.

[shadowdog2244]

I was here when the only "playable" character was ryu. Hmm. Dont take my joining date into consideration. I just never joined the forum. Until like the next year. I tired, forever to get into the forums. I remember I wanted to tell everyone how good I would be as a mod. That was a stupid idea. It is a good thing it took forever for the forum to authorize me as a member. Or else, I would be a hated member of the forum right now. Maybe even banned. It took over a year for me to be authorized and then my account on the forum goes berserk, so I register again. When someone told me on another forum, my messages of wanting to be a mod was spam and so it was deleted I got it, just in time too. I was registered like a week later on the forum.
I remember when no one said anything was cheap until members starting labeling it when the newer characters came. I remember the rank ones who were considered equal because everyone had the same character, and no one could really be "cheap."
I dont remeber much though, because I was in fifth grade, and I was rather lost of memory back then, litterally. Some illness that was supposedlly healing ever since I was born.
but I remember, and none of you may remember me, but I was there. I was just too discouraged to fight anyone because I thought everyone was like teenagers and adults who would say I was stupid, or some young, litte n00b wanabee. I now know I was wrong. I barely played at all. like maybe twice or 3 times ever in 2001. I forgot the site occasionally, heh. It was long. I was a player, until I realized you could register. Then I registered on the game in 2002.
Of course, maybe my non memorizing mind played illusions on me, heh. Maybe I am remembering about the things in 2002??? hopefully not.
Maybe I am not a real vet, but I was there. ???

[dominicankid098]

[b]speaking of tournaments... now they run really slow... before they used to be quick.. people would signup fast.. then the tournament would start 2 weeks later.. but now it goes slow... I think the age of the kids playin now adays are averaging around 12.

TOC 1 will never be matched up. Zing79 planned it too perfect. Then we have to go back and talk about senshukentaikai again. ESPECIALLY WHEN THE FORUM WAS JUST BLACK AND GREY (NICEST SKIN EVER). They had something that battle-grounds never had and never will cause battle-grounds is mostly emulator crap.. They had the Clan Wars tournament. which took lots of patience to set up.. there also used to be alot of clan battles..

now lets talk about the clans.. some are active and some are dead. and some idiots revive old clans which were not meant to be back *cough* DARK KNIGHTS *cough*

mastaq really had to destroy a piece of history by reviving a clan that is not even his... its Shi

[TarkanX]

Wow... all these memories, I'm breaking out a tear (actually, I'm not). Those were some good times. Even though I don't pay attention to the fighters now, from what I've known, these fighters now aren't as good as the fighters of the past; the fighters of the past cared for the game so much, not for points or rank, but just to play. They played their ass off, they kept training and making sure their fighting skills were elite. We tried developing so many strategies, and even tactics against different players, instead of one dimensional moves that we have nowadays (hadouken 10 times, then shinkuu hadouken, and jumping around aimlessly while kicking).

I remember when me and Token were fighting, we kept spewing explicit quotes at each other, but when the fights were done, we always said good game and never complained, heck, we even told each other what we could improve on. Nowadays, when I'm viewing a fight and one loses to the other, it's because of lag this or lag that or because you cheat... just shut up and FIGHT! My Computer (when I was a dominant force) was 4 years out of date, but that didn't stop me from working my ass off. I was never number one at anything, I used that will to make sure I was the best, every game I played felt like it was my last game; I never went easy on my students or even ####ies (unless I was trying to teach them). This game lacks the passion to fight, and that's why we made the World Warrior Tournament, to bring back the fire that TOC did.

Also, the elite players presently don't fight with other elite players and this makes me angry. Why did this have to happen? Fighitng another elite player was supposed to be a blessing, fighting for rank is repetitive and it won't make the person feel a euphoria. You don't accomplish much beating someone who knows nothing about the game, but when you beat someone who's at or above your skill level, then you are highly regarded and you know you can challenge anyone with confidance going into a fight.



Edited By TarkanX on Aug. 04 2004 at 11:28

[MaDPoWer]

I remember when I joined... before TarkanX, before Dominicankid, before NoSoul4evr, before SSJKarma, before ABC123test....

Just me... Lefty... and TMyApp himself posting here. Those were the days.

[abc123test]

Not to mention there wasn't very many ####s, the ones that were wern't as ####ie as some of the ones we have today. It was fun back then on the forum since tmy was looking for new ideas to make the forum and game a better place. Alot of people helped out and posted many ideas and I loved the way we voted for char. back then lmfao. The top 20 was a very hard place to get too. We had alot of people with very good recoreds I think mine was 47 wins and 6 losses rank 100 are something of the sort. Back then almost no one had more losses then wins. Also the best part is IT WAS ALL RYU VS RYU 1 ON 1! XD

[dominicankid098]

And to even think that there was actually cheap people back in 2001! ####saibot used to be the one making those cheap punches to death to get his wins. but then tmyapp fixed that bug and made the characters back off by ever low punch they make. WHICH WAS VERY SMART OF HIM!

I had joined the game in sept. 2001 and dxzero was rank 1. I didn't join the forum until Zing79 was advertizing the TOC in the game chat. During the first TOC tournament the first clans were created. Before senshukentaikai clans. The xXsomebodyXx army (which i was in with UMJ and Offma) and the black dragons i think by just blaze kinda forgot. we used to challenge the fighters on this forum.. well not this forum the forum used to be plain black and white with red links and it was hosted by wargames.mikerosoft. After I lost to TarkanX in TOC 1 then I started to train harder than before. I used my new name Stillmatic (which is the name of a rap album) and i went straight to 84-0 in the game and got my first lost against Koopsta. Koopsta Stealth-Dragon Allan Iverson and j-dog014 were always tryin to gang up on me. Those 4 people are the first to start talkin about *emulators* in the game. Allan Iverson aka Hotsauce and j-dog014 made a fansite called PrinceRyuk which used to be hosted by cyberfuturism.com... As senshukentaikai was first released I joiined Stealth-Dragon's clan called Raging Dragons. I barely posted there and I didn't even like some of the members there such as Sportschick155.. Then I stayed away from senshukentaikai for a little bit and just kept playin the game without senshukentaikai.. Fighting the fighters who were elite at the moment like manontherun (he was prolly the first chunli user to be in rank 1) (he also won TOC II i think).. And he was pretty easy to beat... Omnislasher had joined the game as well... He would only fight ####ies and he would stay in rank one fighting ####ies.. NOWADAYS EVERYONE IS DOING THAT! He changed his name to Mcbeth and started doing the same thing over and over. The problem was about trying to take his rank it was impossible cause the guy wouldn't sleep.. He would just play all day. I would challenge him and he would never fight me. So i never would have found out how good he ever was.. To back things up in time a little bit xvmst was trying to prove himself to be the greatest or laggiest fighter ever to play the game. He changed his name to fear-tetsuo and joined the smashers. He would argue with nferno666 all the time in the smashers senshuk forum. (the rumor was that nferno was a bit jealous of fear-tetsuo's power) fear-tetuo used to lag BAD.. Jumping all over the screen and the shinkuu used to hit him for a second. He joined Zing79's TOC III and got his final match against TarkanX. I think fear-tetsuo won the best out of 5 but got disqualified for cheating. TarkanX had the special red ryu with the special sentinel who used to run all over the screen. I think it was taken away from him during the release of N.O.T.S (Night of the Sentinels)... At that time i joined the Shotokan Masters KKS leading the clan.. When TMyApp released TAG mode i was excited to see how it came out. When i entered the game i found out how much it changed.. IN A BAD WAY... The lag was probably the worst lag i ever saw.. I was beating the elite fighters like they have just signed in the game... Then tmyapp fixed most bugs and lag and put it back to *normal* well at least a lil close to *normal* tag mode scared away alot of vets making them retire for good. ramziel didnt like it. professor didnt like it. he left the game and the shotokan masters. and many other vets had left... Tag Mode was really most of the reason why vets have left the game. (Even though it was one of tmyapp's hardest work) Then people started caring less of the game.. So they would just post in senshuk forums or the official forums and just make gfx and crap. I joined another clan called DK which prolly gave me a little life back... fighting other great clans.. then i left the clan and i started fighting on my own.. I joined mastaq's Brawl for All tournament. I think it went up to fixe rounds and I ended up in Runner Up position losing to Strider42. I retired from the game for one year and came back december. and i thought i would see the fighters i fought before but didn't see one of them. I read some old topics from challenges and tournaments saying that i had changed my name into something else cause they found this *new laggy player* the tournament was the Hardcore tournament. I laughed about it cause the Shotokan Masters rated me Top 3 laggiest people to play the game right next to fear-tetsuo. I came back played the game a little bit and got bored.. So then i found out that Darkmagick had came back to the game and i created a clan called Kyokugen Masters which is dead for nowbecause some left to vacation but I will have to revive it soon when Darkmagick comes back from his vacation this week.

Now I am willing to do anything to help the game out and bring it to life. So again i ask if anyone got any ideas just email me at lancer px@hotmail.com or add me on msn with the same email.



Edited By dominicankid098 on Aug. 04 2004 at 10:31

[shadowdog2244]

Now that I really think about it... What happened?
Who or what caused the slow destruction of the community?
I dont what to say the members, because... THAT JUST CANT BE THE ONLY THING... it's sad. If it was once good, we can make it that good again right?
All of your memories actually sadden me. It seemed so blissful.
What happened? If you know, When did it happen?
Please help me find out what, exactly, is wrong.

[dominicankid098]

well then you really have to read some of the things i said... ever since tag the vets lost interest in the game... but it just made it a little interesting for me... People would just play tag and just use the power of the variable attack to win games... some would start the game in level 3 to start the variable as soon as the fight begins.. but tmyapp fixed that and now u can only start on level 2 but i think shouldnt be that way... there shouldnt be a choice on what level you start on... mainly because 1. most likely the first supers you throw wont connect so quickly in the game 2. if the player is lucky to get it connected it would be a cheap way to win.

Now I check out the topscores... and it's like i dont know anybody there.. before top scores were reserved for the top fighters of the game WITH SKILL... but now it is open for any new person who joins the game cause they dont even have to fight the best to get the points... They can go ahead and beat a person ranked 100 about 30 times and you would be in good rank...

Clans and tournaments used to be a very big thing back then.. People would talk about clans and tournaments all the time in the game.. Now people just want to bore themselves and find a way to piss off SMACKDOWN AND INFINITYBOT and then they think its *funny* to get kicked..

At same time people are not making much of an effort to make the game a little more fun... All I see is Liger Zero and pip99 hosting a tournament which is going quite slow.. Then there is tarkanx hosting the world warriors tournament and we will see how he handles that tourney...

I remember a time when everyone was interested in the game..

When Dark-Gunner used to say after every match win or lose over and over: "I won WHOS NEXT!"

or when inclusive used to start rhyming on the forum dissing everyone in the game and there skills.

Now look at the game.. as many *hits* tmyapp gets in the game its pretty much almost dieing.. even if it is the number one game on arcadepod..

And cause of this I am going to make sure to help this game out.. I never contributed to this game.. never donated.. but i know i can contribute in someway. I got to start on my blueprints :p .



Edited By dominicankid098 on Aug. 04 2004 at 15:40

[mastaq]

Lancer get one thing straight... I was the ONLY person to successfully host a clan wars TWICE! Just wait and see the wars will return..

[Master_Jay]

I think all the ones u said abc, are the only ones who post here.

Including me...
1 month could mean a lot lol but your close enough.
If you check the "members" section of the forum, you will see the name "Cydrops" registered Dec. 2001

I made the name "Master Jay" in Dec. 2002.

[shadowdog2244]

When you say clans were a big thing, what exactly do you mean? Do you mean like if you were in a clan, you were important or special or you mustve been really good? Or clans were like new and people actually cared about them? Or both? Or something more?
Also, can you tell me what the ranking system was then?

Tournaments.... I dont know what to do about that. If people liked tournaments even when there were no prizes, I dont know why they are dying... I will have to think about that. Dont think by me thinking, I wont accomplish anything. When I think, I think hard. You'll see some of my ideas by today's end.
It wont be so "funny" when they are exposed. You know who...
I try to make the game more fun by adding my own little mode, as you may already know, Be as cheap as you want here games. People tell me these games are fun, and I could start listing if you wanted, heh. Although these games change the style from skill for skill, it changes it to strategy for strategy. I WILL BE THE ONE TO HOST THE FIRST "BE AS CHEAP AS YOU WANT HERE" Tournament. It will be an excellent reliever as well as fun. I am sure people will join because people finally get to do whatever they want and not get critizised. People will try doing the most efficient things to win in a match. Sometimes I wonder if I am destroying the game with these games, but then I remember... I AM HAVING FUN. EVERYONE IS HAVING FUN! Except the idiots that will be exposed for calling me a n00b after they see the title of the game and they choose to join... Only 2 have done this, but there are always those stupid people.

Hmm, I dont think everyone can have a trademark saying, or be more interesting, heh, but I will try to see what I can do. I know a lot of people that are "al little mean and obnoxious" but I can change them, or should I say, I know they can change on their own. I can try making people nicer, but more interesting, they will have to do that on their own.

I can and will help too. :D



Edited By shadowdog2244 on Aug. 04 2004 at 21:33

[dominicankid098]

You see but it has to be something BIG. Tournaments used to be BIG back then. I know if someone wins a prize on the next tournament then everyone would like to join that tournament again just to win the prize. So then the life of the game will be back again. Clans used to be big because everyone would always challenge each other clans. I would stay in the chat and people would always be having clan battles or accepting new members to join their clan. That was all they would talk about! Now when you go to the game they have these private conversations that they can be talking about it in MSN MESSENGER.

And I too used to do the same as you. Make up a theme. I would host matches called *FREE WINS FOR ALL* and the Top Ten would always join my game. Which is very sad! Meaning the Top Ten would look for free wins just to stay in their ranks or get better ranks. The *FREE WINS FOR ALL* was the only way for me to get people to fight me. Top Ranks won't fight me 1 on 1 no tag cause they kinda knowbetter not too. LOL. When they see my name they know it is not going to be easy or a free win. LOL.

but no matter what it is going to be my mission to help bring the life again of this game. I don't care if the people hate me or love me. They will respect what I can bring to the game.

[shadowdog2244]

Very true, I am sure you will. And away I go. I will assist you. :D

[TarkanX]

Also the best part is IT WAS ALL RYU VS RYU 1 ON 1! XD

01d 2cHoo1 > j00!!!1111


During the first TOC tournament the first clans were created.

Actually, the first clans were created before TOC, it was during Ryu's Drunken Brawl.


I think fear-tetsuo won the best out of 5 but got disqualified for cheating. TarkanX had the special red ryu with the special sentinel who used to run all over the screen. I think it was taken away from him during the release of N.O.T.S (Night of the Sentinels)...

The Red Ryu and Red Sentinel were taken away from me before the start of TOC3, which was at the same time as the jump lock implention.


When TMyApp released TAG mode i was excited to see how it came out. When i entered the game i found out how much it changed.. IN A BAD WAY... The lag was probably the worst lag i ever saw.. I was beating the elite fighters like they have just signed in the game... Then tmyapp fixed most bugs and lag and put it back to *normal* well at least a lil close to *normal* tag mode scared away alot of vets making them retire for good.

It didn't scare away the vets, we hated it, because it was too slow. It wasn't the fast paced action that we were keen to, and it was very hard to get off your moves. It was like the world's fastest runner having his legs covered in molasses.


ramziel didnt like it. professor didnt like it. he left the game and the shotokan masters. and many other vets had left... Tag Mode was really most of the reason why vets have left the game. (Even though it was one of tmyapp's hardest work) Then people started caring less of the game..

Although tag mode played a big role in the departure of veterans, there are other reasons, like lack of time, etc... Tag Mode (even though TMyApp put so much work into it) really depleted the value of the game. If there was no tag mode, then players like Tantum would be playing this game a lot, instead of never (Tantum even admitted this to me a few days ago). If tag mode was gone, I would still be playing the game on a consistent basis, instead of once a month.


Now that I really think about it... What happened?

Many things....

Who or what caused the slow destruction of the community?

again, many things made the community deteririorate (spelling?). Although people would think it was the ####ies off-head, it's not entirely their fault. If someone who had a great fighitng spirit and never cared for rank, even though he was rank 1 had told and trained the ####ies of the game that rank doesn't mean anything, then the ####ies wouldn't be this bad... sadly, my skills are at waste and no rank 1 (after tag mode) player has done that, or had the time to.

Tag Mode was like an atom bomb, I think that is a good reason (like dominicankid said) why you don't see as many people registered from 2001 or early 2002, and many who are registered from those times don't play the game much.

Disorganization is also another thing. Have you counted how many "tournaments" have been made after TOC3 and how many were successful (almost to the level of TOCI)? Yeah, none; the people that make these so called tournaments don't put in the time and effort to make them good. If you see the old topics in the chalenges and tournaments section, you can see that Zing strained his ass just so that the tournament can be considered the best ever, you don't see many people putting as much work as he did. Hopefully, and for the sake of this community, the World Warrior Tournament can fix this.


ever since tag the vets lost interest in the game... but it just made it a little interesting for me... People would just play tag and just use the power of the variable attack to win games... some would start the game in level 3 to start the variable as soon as the fight begins.. but tmyapp fixed that and now u can only start on level 2 but i think shouldnt be that way... there shouldnt be a choice on what level you start on... mainly because 1. most likely the first supers you throw wont connect so quickly in the game 2. if the player is lucky to get it connected it would be a cheap way to win.


Supers thrown immediately in a match will almost always connect (if it is a beam super), and who cares about cheap wins when your rank goes up?


Now I check out the topscores... and it's like i dont know anybody there.. before top scores were reserved for the top fighters of the game WITH SKILL... but now it is open for any new person who joins the game cause they dont even have to fight the best to get the points... They can go ahead and beat a person ranked 100 about 30 times and you would be in good rank...

It's trully a sad thing. These players have skill, they also have the potential, but they aren't unlocking it, because they aren't fighting players that aren't at their skill level, or even close to it.


At same time people are not making much of an effort to make the game a little more fun... All I see is Liger Zero and pip99 hosting a tournament which is going quite slow.. Then there is tarkanx hosting the world warriors tournament and we will see how he handles that tourney...

We need more effort in this community, fighitng and planning, but we don't have that effort. And it's not exactly my tournament, it's the tournament made by the moderators and some VIP members; we are going to try our best to make this thing better than TOCI, and Dominican, you say that our tournament won't be as good as TOCI, is it because our tournament doesn't have the well praised fighters of the past? Why don't you think this will be as good as TOCI?


And cause of this I am going to make sure to help this game out.. I never contributed to this game.. never donated.. but i know i can contribute in someway. I got to start on my blueprints

If you have plans, AIM me at CenturionMario, and put me on your buddy list. I'm not on everyday, and when I'm on, it's usually at 3:00am EST.


Also, can you tell me what the ranking system was then?

The ranking systems when the game was into its first months wasn't a "battle as much as you can" type rank. Even though it is the same as now (although the first top scores wasn't). The first top scores was basically, who ever had the highest win - loss ratio is rank one, so if I was 15-5, then I would have a ratio of 10, and someone that is 20-15 would have a ratio of 5, luckily, players nowadays didn't play back when the game just started.

Even with the first rank, people fought to better their fighting skills. As more top scores went by, people were fighting more for rank and this was first evident in the 2nd top scores. There was a player by the name of MegaPower21 I don't remember if it was a male or female, but MegaPower21 just kept fighting so much for rank, and it took to the last day before the 3rd ranks started that me and Nferno had to top MegaPower21. We had to stay up through the midnight and play non-stop just to hold that person down. Think of what would happen if MegaPower21 had become first, new players would copy off of MegaPower21's maneuvers of getting rank, and the game would be even worse starting from January 2002.

The rank system got worse with its 3rd rank, people actually started fighting for rank, instead of fighting skills, and form there, it just went downhill. With no one who had the heart to be a great fighter and still be rank 1, there was nothing we could do to stop this tyrrany.


Tournaments.... I dont know what to do about that. If people liked tournaments even when there were no prizes, I dont know why they are dying...

The majority of people nowadays would rather have rank than tournaments, and the tournaments that are made are very sup-bar, and little effort put into them.


I WILL BE THE ONE TO HOST THE FIRST "BE AS CHEAP AS YOU WANT HERE" Tournament.

People have tried these, and they are still doing these things (which means they aren't working). One instance is the no projectile tournament (even though that tournament is still going on, from the looks of things, it looks like it might die out a slow death like Ryu's Drunken Brawl), if you do something like this, even if planned very well, it still might not have the flavor of a "great" tournament.

[coolplayer2K2]

im still here!!!!!!!!!!!

i joined the forum as the username sexyass lol. i donno why.then princevegetam posted porno site i took a pic and posted on the forum and got banned :D hehehe those where the days. and in the game only true vets remember me from 2001. *cough* dark-link pip99 sports tj5 ect ect *coguh*

adn i still remember when manontherun won toc and he was going like so crazy lol.

i still remmebered the senshutakiablahblahblah forum. it was FILLED with flaming. espeaccilly J-luna. he wud start arguements where ever he goes and he wud always say the Ikari Warriors ownz the Missfits. becuase back then the missfits just started as a guild and they didnt have lots of good ppl like they have now.but how i joined the missfits is when lordgorbyc made one of the best non graphical forum long time ago. the forum had a good community and was growing fast.and back in the day i was a good friend of lordgrobic. so then in the link section CarlMax ( the owner of missfits before Theprankster came) had posted a site and a forum on missfits.and i asked lordgrobycs if he wanted to join the guild. and he said "well it sounds like a good guild, ill give it a try" so he joined first.so then about a month later i joined the guild. since i got better and better pip99 tested me. we had a very good match and it was very close but unfortunatly pip99 won. then he said to me u can join the guild if youcontinue to work harder and practice. so i said to carl max that pip let me in and i joined it. then i was a proud member in the guild. although i wasnt in many guildwars i was in some. and i was in the guild war where we challenged the Ikari Warriors. so it was Ikari Warriors vs The Missfits. and i was vsing J-Luna. that was one of the hardest matches iv ever won. i won 1 round he won the next then it was the 3rd and last round. with me only having so little life left and him having 1/4th of life and there was 12 seconds on the time. i thot i was gonna lose. i was at lvl 2. i superjumped in the back of him and did a shinku hadoken. he blocked and still had like left.
then he super jumped and i stayed where i was. then i did a Super Roundhouse special rite when he came down and he died. i won with only 2 seconds to spare.
so that was one of the proudest moments in my "sfo career"

then kks started making the Wt tournaments. i almost never won. until Wt19 that was the only time i won a tournament.

then i started making new friends in the game like RKELLYNOTGUILTY, sportshcick, superboy, tj5, pip99, lightningstrike,lilgirl14 but the FIRST friend i ever made and the first friend that tought me how to use RYU was ssjxgokusaijin. then he changed his name to Quiet Killer.

he tought me eveeeerything i needed to know. buT the most important thing he tought me is how to go super fast in the game and do specials like when i super jump in the back of the person when i FEEL like he is gonna use his super. he tought me what all the vets at the time were doing like nferno666 pip99 tarkanx and much more.

now there is also pip99. he was proboly the nicest friend a guy cud have. he tought me how to use ryu good and how to be good in tag. once i got really good me and him started doing tagteamed. now i knowed him for being the best tag team with ECW. but when i was tag team with him WE WERE UNSTOPPABLE. we never lost! he knew the perfect time to tag me and he knew the perfectr time to request a tag. those were the great days. And he tought me crossover and variable.

Sports,Superboy,Lightningstrike,tj5,and lilgirl14,RKELLYNOTGUILTY.
these were one of the funniest people i knew. they ALWAYS made me laugh but WE always got in the fights. i was always jelous hwen sports liked superboy and tj5.and a friend from school lilgirl14 she was funny although sports hated her guts. rkellynotguilty was a cool guy and real funny. he never got mad at anyone. and i wud always ask sports for her msn but she never told me. YES THATS RIGHT! i liked sports way before i saw here pic! and lightningstrike liked lilgirl14 and vise versa. lightning strike was like 15 years old and at the time me and lilgirl14 were 8-9. and i was like to lilgirl14 WTfur 8 and a half years old how can u like a guy double ur age?
so ya its true back in the day was real cool unlike now.



Edited By coolplayer2K2 on Aug. 05 2004 at 10:23

[dominicankid098]

I guess I will have to explain why this isn't going to be as successful as TOC. (no disrespect to you tark)

During the time TOC was on, Zing79 had planned the tournament perfectly. His rules made alot of sense and his setup did as well. At that time the game was only 3 months old. So alot of people were still joining the game and when they saw the word *tournaments* they were excited.. everyone would talk about it in the chat.. Zing79 used to send emails to tell you your next match.. and if both opponents didnt show up.. He would make the best rank fighter advance..

Sad to say Tarkan but people are mainly joining your tournament because they got respect for you... they arent really looking forward for this tourney or any tourney. And also the people who do play the game right now have been playin for like the past 6-7 months.. If you check out the chat its always full cause all they do is CHAT..

but I think that if 100 people actually play in this tournament and someone gets the prize.. Then everyone will want to join your next tournament not because of the respect they got the mods but because they want to aim for the prize.

I join this tournament mainly because I want to be in the *greats* list and I want people to recognize me as *the one who won the world warrior tournament* or *very good fighter* but if i dont fix my mouse soon then i cant fight in it :(

so mainly im trying to say is without the fire in peoples eyes to win the tournaments.. then this contest will really do no good.. look at npt.. its taking them forever to finish there first round.. ZING79 made it only one week to finish your round or your out... and people would actually fight in that one week... so let see how fast your tourney is going to end...



Edited By dominicankid098 on Aug. 06 2004 at 01:18

[shadowdog2244]

You forget, I dont want the prize. I just want to fight, and see if my strategy is more powerful than skill. I dont even want the prize. I just want to be in a tournament. There are a few that are joining for similar reasons, and am happy.

Ok, now I am really gonna finish my HUGE list today. Should I give it to someone like you or Tarkan, or should I post it on the forum like I planned? I havent been playing SFO for 2 days for this, so I hope it is worth it. If you cant respond in time, I will just post it on the forum. So everyone can see.

[TarkanX]

During the time TOC was on, Zing79 had planned the tournament perfectly. His rules made alot of sense and his setup did as well. At that time the game was only 3 months old. So alot of people were still joining the game and when they saw the word *tournaments* they were excited.. everyone would talk about it in the chat.. Zing79 used to send emails to tell you your next match.. and if both opponents didnt show up.. He would make the best rank fighter advance..

Yeah, we are following what Zing did that made this tournament so great, through memory and through old topics. Although these players might not be as wise as the past players, that doesn't mean we will fail, and we will be constantly sending e-mails to every player in the tournament, about their match-ups, info and everything.


Sad to say Tarkan but people are mainly joining your tournament because they got respect for you... they arent really looking forward for this tourney or any tourney. And also the people who do play the game right now have been playin for like the past 6-7 months.. If you check out the chat its always full cause all they do is CHAT..

They aren't playing this because of me, this isn't 2 years ago. Many of the players here haven't heard of me before, unless they look at the rank archive or join the forum. And we will make sure they look forward for this tournament. Again, this might not be the golden days, but that doesn't mean we should quit while we're still going.


so mainly im trying to say is without the fire in peoples eyes to win the tournaments.. then this contest will really do no good.. look at npt.. its taking them forever to finish there first round.. ZING79 made it only one week to finish your round or your out... and people would actually fight in that one week... so let see how fast your tourney is going to end...

Each tournament round is 3 days, and no exceptions, if they don't fight, then it's good bye. Yes, they might not have the fire as before, but with good organization, we can make this tournament great. NPT wasn't well organized (although there were many rules there), NPT was just too rigid and thrown in the air, we are trying to make things so that everything is flexible and in line.


You forget, I dont want the prize. I just want to fight, and see if my strategy is more powerful than skill. I dont even want the prize. I just want to be in a tournament. There are a few that are joining for similar reasons, and am happy.

We need more people like you, if you made up the majority of SFO, then this place wouldn't be as bad as it is. but, if you win the tournament and you don't want the prize, then that is fine, we won't give the prize to you.


Ok, now I am really gonna finish my HUGE list today. Should I give it to someone like you or Tarkan, or should I post it on the forum like I planned? I havent been playing SFO for 2 days for this, so I hope it is worth it. If you cant respond in time, I will just post it on the forum. So everyone can see.

Private Message your idea to me, I might be able to critique it, thanks.

[pip99]

the forum and got banned hehehe those where the days. and in the game only true vets remember me from 2001. *cough* dark-link pip99 sports tj5 ect ect *coguh*

adn i still remember when manontherun won toc and he was going like so crazy lol.

i still remmebered the senshutakiablahblahblah forum. it was FILLED with flaming. espeaccilly J-luna. he wud start arguements where ever he goes and he wud always say the Ikari Warriors ownz the Missfits. becuase back then the missfits just started as a guild and they didnt have lots of good ppl like they have now.but how i joined the missfits is when lordgorbyc made one of the best non graphical forum long time ago. the forum had a good community and was growing fast.and back in the day i was a good friend of lordgrobic. so then in the link section CarlMax ( the owner of missfits before Theprankster came) had posted a site and a forum on missfits.and i asked lordgrobycs if he wanted to join the guild. and he said "well it sounds like a good guild, ill give it a try" so he joined first.so then about a month later i joined the guild. since i got better and better pip99 tested me. we had a very good match and it was very close but unfortunatly pip99 won. then he said to me u can join the guild if youcontinue to work harder and practice. so i said to carl max that pip let me in and i joined it. then i was a proud member in the guild. although i wasnt in many guildwars i was in some. and i was in the guild war where we challenged the Ikari Warriors. so it was Ikari Warriors vs The Missfits. and i was vsing J-Luna. that was one of the hardest matches iv ever won. i won 1 round he won the next then it was the 3rd and last round. with me only having so little life left and him having 1/4th of life and there was 12 seconds on the time. i thot i was gonna lose. i was at lvl 2. i superjumped in the back of him and did a shinku hadoken. he blocked and still had like left.
then he super jumped and i stayed where i was. then i did a Super Roundhouse special rite when he came down and he died. i won with only 2 seconds to spare.
so that was one of the proudest moments in my "sfo career"

then kks started making the Wt tournaments. i almost never won. until Wt19 that was the only time i won a tournament.

then i started making new friends in the game like RKELLYNOTGUILTY, sportshcick, superboy, tj5, pip99, lightningstrike,lilgirl14 but the FIRST friend i ever made and the first friend that tought me how to use RYU was ssjxgokusaijin. then he changed his name to Quiet Killer.

he tought me eveeeerything i needed to know. buT the most important thing he tought me is how to go super fast in the game and do specials like when i super jump in the back of the person when i FEEL like he is gonna use his super. he tought me what all the vets at the time were doing like nferno666 pip99 tarkanx and much more.

now there is also pip99. he was proboly the nicest friend a guy cud have. he tought me how to use ryu good and how to be good in tag. once i got really good me and him started doing tagteamed. now i knowed him for being the best tag team with ECW. but when i was tag team with him WE WERE UNSTOPPABLE. we never lost! he knew the perfect time to tag me and he knew the perfectr time to request a tag. those were the great days. And he tought me crossover and variable.


Yeah man i actually read all of that. Long time ago it seems. The good old days -_-................

your a good Kid coolplayer.

[shadowdog2244]

Sorry Tarkan, I already posted before I realized your post.???guess you could go and look at it there. :D
http://bbs.projectx.cyberfuturism.com/cgi-bin....;t=1239 (http://nferno666.sytes.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=10180)

[limbei]

just to let u ppl know that limbei will never leave this game....
he loves the game too much :buttrock:

[dominicankid098]

I never said you should quit. I am just saying that I personally don't think that this tournament will have as many *showups* as TOC had...

[DarkstriderX]

I wish i joined in 2001.. :( :(

[estset]

Hey I am 2001 when i stated playing this game. but i was new and I dunno what is forum mean so I didnt post at forum cuz i dunno how to cuz i was new.

[Ak47hardhitter]

Well ive been here since 03 same here never took iterest in looking at tha forum didnt really pay attention to it. ???

[gouki2008]

i join to sfo when the vips accounts was a new idea when we started i don,t remenber the year but i was on sfo before the vips account started one or the 1

[TitanX59]

[b]ok here's a little history lesson, i know no of you were expecting, it was about hmm late august, after school, some kids were talking about how they can play x men vs street fighter in the internet, i was like wtf, so i walk up to ask them "whats the site?" he's like oh i forgot but its so cooL! i was like yea uh huh whatever, so i walk home, only thinking of one thing, what could the link be? so i go online as soon as i get home and check out yahoo, i type in these exact words "play

[dominicankid098]

THIS IS TEKKENKYO IN MY BROTHER ACCOUNT PEOPLE!

Anyways this is the first time i post in this forum because i am one of the few people that actually follow TmyApp's request of only having one account per user ip.

nice bio dark...

just needed to state that even though if my word don't mean much i think that dark masta out of his own pride should find it out of his ass to close his dark knights because that the stupidest thing next to ikari warriors... i'm not spamming im just stating that what he did could have turned out great if it was actually his clan.. but its not. it would have been ok if you revived it and got dmx to be the leader again..i tried to do that but see supercalo never came back.. so then i took responsibility of missfits... just like pip did when i left.. but you knew that dmx was here but you still acted selfish and made dark knights all to yourself when you know it wasnt..

In my opinion ... your actually the stupidest thing that happened to clans.. but things change in the future i guess

please dont ban this name.. because its my bros.. i just needed to let that out.. if it was my name then it would be fine.... lmao edit: JUST FINISHED READING THE PART THAT DMX COULD WRITE PARAGRAPHS ABOUT DARK MASTA :buttrock: :buttrock:



Edited By dominicankid098 on Aug. 13 2004 at 12:12

[alamgir]

Hey I am 2001 when i stated playing this game. but i was new and I dunno what is forum mean so I didnt post at forum cuz i dunno how to cuz i was new.
You sure you were born then?

[gouki2008]

[quote:post_uid0="TitanX59"][b]ok here's a little history lesson, i know no of you were expecting, it was about hmm late august, after school, some kids were talking about how they can play x men vs street fighter in the internet, i was like wtf, so i walk up to ask them "whats the site?" he's like oh i forgot but its so cooL! i was like yea uh huh whatever, so i walk home, only thinking of one thing, what could the link be? so i go online as soon as i get home and check out yahoo, i type in these exact words "play

[TitanX59]

[b]that thing up there was just a history lesson, but back to the topic, here is why most people from 2001 stopped coming, and stopped posting,
1. STUPID TOPICS! here's an example "WHO'S HOTTER? SPORTSCHICK OR PARTGURL!?

2. STUPID PEOPLE! stupid people make everything in a forum annoying, people responding with idiotic and stupidity is a common thing, but after awhile it gets annoying

3. NO CHALLENGES! challenges are hard to find in this game, most people use sp

[gouki2008]

[quote:post_uid0="TitanX59"][b]that thing up there was just a history lesson, but back to the topic, here is why most people from 2001 stopped coming, and stopped posting,
1. STUPID TOPICS! here's an example "WHO'S HOTTER? SPORTSCHICK OR PARTGURL!?

2. STUPID PEOPLE! stupid people make everything in a forum annoying, people responding with idiotic and stupidity is a common thing, but after awhile it gets annoying

3. NO CHALLENGES! challenges are hard to find in this game, most people use sp

[venom-spiderman]

me i am venom-sp

[pip99]

[quote]3. NO CHALLENGES! challenges are hard to find in this game, most people use sp

[dominicankid098]

uh no.. back in the day people wont look for a cheap way to win or get a better rank.. back in the day there was alot more better fighters than there is right now.. these people in the game are pathetic fighters...

[TarkanX]

Dominican: There were a few people that fought for rank in the old days, it was around the 2nd archive, when MegaPower21 was destroying every ####ie that he/she could fight. MegaPower denied challenges from many players ranked below him/her that were on the top 50 rank, and would constantly pester me and Nferno to challenge him/her, once we became rank 1.

After the 2nd archive, it became worse as there were more people fighting for rank, and today, you see what impact Megapower21 has had on the community.



Edited By TarkanX on Aug. 16 2004 at 00:11

[dominicankid098]

Dominican: There were a few people that fought for rank in the old days, it was around the 2nd archive, when MegaPower21 was destroying every ####ie that he/she could fight. MegaPower denied challenges from many players ranked below him/her that were on the top 50 rank, and would constantly pester me and Nferno to challenge him/her, once we became rank 1.

After the 2nd archive, it became worse as there were more people fighting for rank, and today, you see what impact Megapower21 has had on the community.
ok how many people besides ####saibot, omnislasher aka mcbeth, and megapower also fought ####ies daily for rank..

im sorry but megapower is not here playing anymore.. so it isnt much of an impact.. if you ask anyone right now in the game and mention any of those 4 names underlined they will not even know who the hell you are talking about..

people become cheap because they want to.. not because they saw someone else do it... and back then there was never any chat/talk about speedgear or any other program of that sort...

[Vash]

I have been here since late 2002 and my old name was Vash I think and we started having alot of ####s coming in about that time and I killed all of them.

[D!zzY]

Ok now not all the new People play for rank...... well i dont.... when i first started playing this game it was for Characters (Trying to get those wins when your a #### is actually kinda fun), then after i played trying to find a character i was comfortable with. Once i found my fav character i started training..... and then when i was getting good i fought some of those top rankers and realized they sucked......... at that point i was thinking "everyone sucks at this game if its that ez to rank". Then i faught RyusRevenge. He wooped me. I started to think he was the best player in the game.....but then i faught coolkilla, ryusinvasion, and doomtrain....... Right then i knew i wasnt even close to the top.... From then on i cared only bout being the best(in this game of course:laugh:) ... im not saying i am the best but like...you know. Anyways i had like 2 more of those moments i thought i was best....... and 2 more time i found someone 1000000 times better then me..

O oppps lol sorry for giving you my whole "sfo history"..... anyways there was like a 2 day span i cared bout rank but the rest was for fun and being the best =/..

anyways why dont you "vets" just try playing again..... it might be boring for you to play ####s, so maybe you should get the contacts of ppl that are challenges and vets and tell them to come play with you...... whenever im on i only see like 2 or 3 people actually worth playing..... maybe if youu start playing more other vets will come back too....

btw i hear sum vets saying well im not good anymore if i was in my prime i would woop everybody or w/e....... have you ever thaught (i cant spell) maybe its not you? Maybe its actually the new "generation" of players that have just gotten better? No disrespect to the vets =/......

[pip99]

btw i hear sum vets saying well im not good anymore if i was in my prime i would woop everybody or w/e....... have you ever thaught (i cant spell) maybe its not you? Maybe its actually the new "generation" of players that have just gotten better? No disrespect to the vets =/......




True....

[abc123test]

btw i hear sum vets saying well im not good anymore if i was in my prime i would woop everybody or w/e....... have you ever thaught (i cant spell) maybe its not you? Maybe its actually the new "generation" of players that have just gotten better? No disrespect to the vets =/......




True....
*cough* You mean people came out with faster connections.

[dominicankid098]

Ok now not all the new People play for rank...... well i dont.... when i first started playing this game it was for Characters (Trying to get those wins when your a #### is actually kinda fun), then after i played trying to find a character i was comfortable with. Once i found my fav character i started training..... and then when i was getting good i fought some of those top rankers and realized they sucked......... at that point i was thinking "everyone sucks at this game if its that ez to rank". Then i faught RyusRevenge. He wooped me. I started to think he was the best player in the game.....but then i faught coolkilla, ryusinvasion, and doomtrain....... Right then i knew i wasnt even close to the top.... From then on i cared only bout being the best(in this game of course:laugh:) ... im not saying i am the best but like...you know. Anyways i had like 2 more of those moments i thought i was best....... and 2 more time i found someone 1000000 times better then me..

O oppps lol sorry for giving you my whole "sfo history"..... anyways there was like a 2 day span i cared bout rank but the rest was for fun and being the best =/..

anyways why dont you "vets" just try playing again..... it might be boring for you to play ####s, so maybe you should get the contacts of ppl that are challenges and vets and tell them to come play with you...... whenever im on i only see like 2 or 3 people actually worth playing..... maybe if youu start playing more other vets will come back too....

btw i hear sum vets saying well im not good anymore if i was in my prime i would woop everybody or w/e....... have you ever thaught (i cant spell) maybe its not you? Maybe its actually the new "generation" of players that have just gotten better? No disrespect to the vets =/......
disagree... mainly because in 2001 I was never *THE ONE TO BEAT* type of person.. it was a struggle for a person like me to get in the top 20... Now I can go for rank 1 whenever I liked to.. I come to the game now and then people target me down..

THE *NEW GENERATION* isnt as good.. and if people complain about lag right now.. then i would like to see them play the game in 2001.. they would think every game is just plain LAG..

Also we don't even have one elite fighter.. Before their would be an elite fighter on every archive..

It was either TarkanX, Zing79, Airlock, fear-tetsuo, and it ended with Nferno666.. now nferno barely even plays..

another thing to mention.. most members of this *generation* are vips.. a vip member barely has to TRY to win a game.. that is why i dont even use vip.. i like the challenge..

and ANOTHER THING! people in top ranks love tag... so they just use their little variables and crossovers against other users and some even start games in level 2.. TAG DOESNT TAKE SKILL.. imagine what a *new generation* fighter can do using both vip and tag..

What ever happened to the classic 1 vs 1 non tag? its all gone.. the only way i fight 1 on 1 non tag is if i message some of my friends from my contact list.. because they are actually skilled.. other than that.. i cant get one fight without tag in the game chat...


In other words, the new generation is nothing compared to the old generation

[PSYCHO]

agreed.... not to mention the cheapness of this new generation *cough*spideykickallday*cough* and this speedgear thingy.... nahhh i guess i'll stick with the big boys of 01 and 02

[pip99]

THE *NEW GENERATION* isnt as good..


See im from back in the day im never biast FACT is

there are MORE great players....then there ever was in 01 and 02

It seemed like 01 and 02 were better but were still around a lot ofus great players from 01 and 02.

but theres more users VIS a VIS theres more great players. Its pretty much a mathmatical cerntainatitiy.

Though there is also a LOT more ####s.....



Edited By pip99 on Aug. 15 2004 at 04:36

[ish]

Well when i came back to this game last month for a period of time things had changed so much, there were so many spidermen users, basically the top 5 were all spidermen users.

When i checked the scoreboard, high ranking ppl who i wanted to test for skill did not give me a match due to the fact when i had a high rank they challenged me and i beat them, so i think that was a contributing factor on why they kept declining my challenges, but thats the thing you see, back then if someone had lost against me they would thrive to become better than me by challenging me over and over again till they found a weakness in my fighting, its true to say their are a lot of "rank conscience" people in 2004, but that does not mean they do not have skill, im suprised by the fact there are so many good ryu users at this time, and yes even good spidermen users. The thing with these players is confidence in fighting other people who they lost against before hand, these new generations of fighters believe rank is what will get them known, whereas in 2001 our fighting ability matter so much to us.

Back to the fighting skill/ability of the new generations of fighter, as i was saying there is a tremendous amount of ability and im afraid to say much more than in 2001, ill admit there are more "####s" as they are described, but there are also more skilled fighters, back then there was just ryu to start off with, but if their were a wider selection of players i believe ppl would abuse spidermen as much as what we see today.

here are a few good fighters i fought:

Dasupertrooper - excellent shadow/chun, one of the best ive seen.
Hollis - very fast paced ryu who could definately stand up against the top 10 back in the day.
Takeover - Sent abilities are top draw, also not to shabby ryu.
Kid23/dichelle/wolver

[Liger Zero]

Well Like I said A Few Posts Back, Im Still Here :D

[Sportschick155]

blah

[pip99]

as if IsH left me out of his list.....i beat your sent with Ryu man-_-

if i used sent v sent .....0 _o

[ish]

Sry dude i did say i forgot some players, your E-ryu is definately top notch, you would be on my list, i was putting names on yesterday by looking on the forum user list, their are loads more i missed which shows the ability of these fighters.

Im sure there was a top 20 list made by one of the mods in early 2002 (which Tarkan won i believe), maybe one can be made right now and we could compare the top 20 from back then and the top 20 from right now. maybe we can even set up some fights (hehe I know its a long shot).



Edited By ish on Aug. 17 2004 at 23:42

[pip99]

your E-ryu is definately top notch

and my sent and wolve are just mean man.I heard your good with sent we should have a match some time.

and yeah erm....02 v 04...would be close. it us a long shot but id help out if you want ish.


as i was saying there is a tremendous amount of ability and im afraid to say much more than in 2001, ill admit there are more "####s" as they are described, but there are also more skilled fighters


Excatly what i said.



Edited By pip99 on Aug. 17 2004 at 05:15

[gouki2008]

..........
-_- no one remenber me iam darkan-shin-ryu snif

[alamgir]

..........
-_- no one remenber me iam darkan-shin-ryu snif
Nope unfortunately not.

[pip99]

Just fought Ish in a wolve fight DAM the only close wolve fight ive had for like months still havent lost a wolve fight though. For a long time.

[Wild Dragon]

october 2001 here I think =/.

[tupac2westsider]

Pac. ! ? #is. ! ? #here. ! ? #and. ! ? #posting!



Edited By tupac2westsider on 1093325978

[KidKrazyShit]

Pac. ! ? #is. ! ? #here. ! ? #and. ! ? #posting!
:dontgetit:

word@tupac's return.

[tupac2westsider]

Pac. ! ? #is. ! ? #here. ! ? #and. ! ? #posting!
:dontgetit:

word@tupac's return.
Pac is weird like that....

but im around, kinda....

[pip99]

Pac. ! ? #is. ! ? #here. ! ? #and. ! ? #posting!
:dontgetit:

word@tupac's return.
2nds the retur nof kinda return.

[tupac2westsider]

Pac. ! ? #is. ! ? #here. ! ? #and. ! ? #posting!
:dontgetit:

word@tupac's return.
2nds the retur nof kinda return.
The lag of the game has driven me away....

I just cant play something that i can win fairly. Plus, its not fast pace like it usto be when Ryu Vs. Ryu was around. Now those were the fun days, when all you had was ryu.

Fair all the way.... Though lag existed, it wasnt as bad as it is today.

Games where exiting and close.

Nerve recking maches made me stay in this game... but not no more.

[DA_VIPA]

then arrange to play the guys u know can make ur heart pound.. forgt the n00b generation an the crap they pull.

[-Ski-]

early 2002 but that dont count ( WE WILL OVER COME )

[gouki2008]

2001 not remenber the month nov i think dont remenber the month
ohh i remenber it nov. 2001

[RyanConn]

Well, I'm still here. Not many people remember me, and I haven't posted in a while. but I'm still around and playing the game.



Edited By RyanConn on 1093968732

[Ludacris]

man....played like 10 games........... now I remember why I stopped playin that much........ took me a while to beat people...........cuz of lag.......... me losin my health and them not to............. cyc|ops ####s.......... Optic beam Optic Beam then BEHOLD!!!!!!!!! OPTIC BLAST............ HAdouken Users........ tryin to look for cool fighters to fight.........but can't find none......... that's why I tend not to play much........

[RYU~AKUMA]

The only ppl i used to always play in 2001 were coolplayer, coolkilla, masamuneX, reckoning19, nightcrawler, vipernightgerm, dark-link ""might join his clan in anotha game"" and Quiet Killer ""he still gets on the game once in a while, still talk to him too""..and coolplayer you used to kick my ass remember FIGHTER, anywayz i joined the forum 2001 under Morph, for MorpheusX...but no1 will change the password....and really i don't care..



Edited By RYU~AKUMA on 1093480706

[DA_VIPA]

good thing i had a di ferent username then..i'd be so humuliated lol. :stupid:

[Dark~Blanka]

damn!! ive been readin some of the posts and looks like u guys realy need your 2001 vets back...

[tupac2westsider]

then arrange to play the guys u know can make ur heart pound.. forgt the n00b generation an the crap they pull.
If i want to arange that then ill just play FBA....

Why reduce to playing SFO when FBA can give me no lag.

Just great.

[iTALY]

why play fba when you can just play cs.

silly tupac 0_0

[pip99]

Yeah and hackers use FBA aswell and theres no punk buster etc to stop them auto aim etc etc.



Sfo and fps for pip.

[tupac2westsider]

why play fba when you can just play cs.

silly tupac 0_0

your so right....

Sfo and fps for pip.

no fps for pac.....

I Rather kill, beat, rape, shot, counter fairly, than just lag.

Most of the time on SFO; i dont even know when i get hit, and i die. Game based on lag



Edited By tupac2westsider on 1093532166

[DA_VIPA]

the community here is better.i cant find a decent emulator group anywhere.

[pip99]

the community here is better.i cant find a decent emulator group anywhere.
Yeah thats a fact.

[Virtual Fighter]

what i dont really get, is why all these FBA type people are always trying to almost "convert" us to emus.

i mean, why? what do you gain? is there some kind of shortage o fBA players, so you're trying to draw us to it?

its eomthing i have never yet fully understood. i know thats the motives of some people, like (for the most part) jerry28. he's always trying to convince me to play with him, and then puts down sfo, and then we get into a 30 minute conversation about which is better.

i never go to FBA based forums, and tell people to quit playing fba, and start playing sfo, why should it be the other way around?

[alamgir]

Well AA has a pretty good community although they're pretty hostile against ####s.



Edited By alamgir on 1093533652

[tupac2westsider]

i never go to FBA based forums, and tell people to quit playing fba, and start playing sfo, why should it be the other way around?
Cause FBA is better.... Plus, i dont even play FBA, but its surely better.

I play Counter Strike... and i bet the community here isnt as good as CS.

I guess we talk smack because sfo is laggy and it sucks when you want to get to a higher level of gaming. You will never be the best or good at SFO because it takes no real skill to actually play it. Its just fun to play.

Though it sucks when you cant really progress at SFO... you will see the sudden skill level change when you play FBA. Its like your playing some one at an arcade, but with a keyboard.

[Virtual Fighter]

but you still didnt answer my question. why is it you come here, boast up how emus take "real" skill, how we are all waisting our time, and how we should be playing FBA? what do you gain from it?

[dominicankid098]

I really find FBA really pathetic. Beleive it or not, it lags more than this game. That game is meant for cable users only. FBA is the reason why some veterans left this game. They started to enjoy FBA more than XvsSF and they left. We should all thank oOHoTSaucEOo, j-dog014, Stealth-Dragon, and Koopsta for telling everyone in the game about FBA. [.sarcasm on the *thanks* part.]

[pip99]

I play Counter Strike... and i bet the community here isnt as good as CS

There is not just one big site where all ther users post....there is NO cs community really. its just a few people who have clans and msn and lots of random CS forums on the web.

[~Mastermax~]

nobody uses fba all u see is mame and kawaks, and the thing that sfo has over fba is sfo has a community, we don't have bob marley to answer questions for everyone on fba, we don't have pip to kick our ass all the time, everyone on there seems to always feel like a stranger.

also emulators, just stay the same, sfo however moves forward and always will, it's design can build our fantasy (errr.. tmyapps, but i guess we get the occasional charecotr vote) once all of the charectors imaginable (and addable) are added this game can still continue.


and there are many more cheap people o nemulators than there are on sfo, everyone has their cheap stratagy it seems

[alamgir]

nobody uses fba all u see is mame and kawaks, and the thing that sfo has over fba is sfo has a community, we don't have bob marley to answer questions for everyone on fba, we don't have pip to kick our ass all the time, everyone on there seems to always feel like a stranger.

also emulators, just stay the same, sfo however moves forward and always will, it's design can build our fantasy (errr.. tmyapps, but i guess we get the occasional charecotr vote) once all of the charectors imaginable (and addable) are added this game can still continue.


and there are many more cheap people o nemulators than there are on sfo, everyone has their cheap stratagy it seems
Yeah your right. The community here is unique. And the game's always getting updated as things are always changing, so i'll take SFO of any emulator anyday.

[abc123test]

Well I didn't want too get into this but hey what the heck.

I must say tupac is right there is no way sfo can touch fba. I mean come on if you have dial up with windows 98 on a 1994 computer and you can still get every thing needed too run fba. You can pull o f a combo or evean a air combo mabe a throw are two. Therre is just no way sfo can beat fba, I mean come on guys lets get real here.

First: Fba has every person in the game and you can play alot more games on it so thats a HUGE thing. Where in sfo you don't have every char. and it's not as real as the real X men vs Street fighter rom. I mean come on this is basicly a game of it's own.

So if you want the real thing play it on fba and it is allmost like you own the game.

Second: The combos lets face it if your in a arcade and you don't just press buttons what are you going too do too beat someone? COMBOS all kinds of them air combos ground too air combos ect. ect.

In sfo your luycky if you get a 3 hit ground combo and if you do it won't be as good as a fba combo and there are no air combos in sfo at all.

So if you did lag in fba well you could still pull o f a good combo and it would be a hell of alot better then a sfo one.

Third: FBA has a hell of alot less lag then sfo I mean come on just go too ck-evoulution.com and look at some of icemans show case combos. They look like he is in a flipin arcade.

Another thing you can't just go into fba pressing buttons how you can sfo it takes alot of time too become good. If you are a button presser you will be beat to hell and back with combos from others.

So as you can see sfo is for fun.

FBA>SFO

[tupac2westsider]

I play Counter Strike... and i bet the community here isnt as good as CS

There is not just one big site where all ther users post....there is NO cs community really. its just a few people who have clans and msn and lots of random CS forums on the web.
Your talking about a small community....

CS has Leagues, where you can play other clans and progress..... Or just play for fun. The forums are usually for each individual Server or Clans, if you enjoy there servers. IRC is used alot for the game of CS, fans of certain servers and clans go to those IRcchannels to hang.

It has Hundreds of serves, and you meet new people every day. There is always comp, if you suck, it shows and if your good it Really shows. (or they will say your a hacker)

Its like any other Online game....... SFO is for people that want to get recognized fast. With no real skill of video gaming.

Virtual Fighter:

Answer to your question........

I hate that people that say "im the best in SFO, so im the best in all fighting games." I hate nubs, and lets face it.... this game a full of all these nubs.

So if they really think there the best, then try a game where it can actually show your the best. My son(5 year old) was good at this game..... So anyone can be good at this game.

A game should take some skill to play, on SFO, it shows no skill. Just shows you got a crappy PC and knows how to jam on buttons.

So i guess i try to convert because then they cant talk Smack. Cause its true, you cant really compare it.... there is no way. Its like 100 times better than SFO.

The real question is this........

WHY DO YOU PLAY SFO..... WHEN YOU KNOW FBA IS BETTER?

I showed SFO to my friend, he played it, and right away his respond was "Too laggy, it sucks." I showed him FBA, and bomb, he loves it. "Its like the arcade"

[Virtual Fighter]

as i always like to compare, i think o fBA as the mechanical opponent.

the Reason FBA sucks is because it is just LIKE the arcade.
wtf?

well, the arcade sucks! i have fba, played it, beat it in like 30 minutes. played against other people, and when i was selecting a charector, i was like, "ahh, flip it".

i didnt know the person i was playing against, i didnt have a rivilary with him, or a strive to beat him.

i didnt know the person, and i bet you ba people dont know 90% of your opponents.

not to mention, the high rise of the "sfo group" that lurks around FBA. people from sfo play against other people from SFO on FBA.

thats like a republican using democratic strategies i norder to win.
its like a karate master using the moves of his opponent (a mui tai fighter) i norder to win the karate master title.

FBA is just as laggy as SFO, the only di ferance is that people who complain about lag, leave SFO for fba. they then meat up with the same people from SFO, (who most likley have fast connections) and play against each other, un laggified.

c'mon, t2w, i would have tought of you to use less biased oppinions, and non fact-based points in your argument. from what ive read, its a bunch of reideration and "it just is" statments.

[tupac2westsider]

as i always like to compare, i think o fBA as the mechanical opponent.

the Reason FBA sucks is because it is just LIKE the arcade.
wtf?

well, the arcade sucks! i have fba, played it, beat it in like 30 minutes. played against other people, and when i was selecting a charector, i was like, "ahh, flip it".

i didnt know the person i was playing against, i didnt have a rivilary with him, or a strive to beat him.

i didnt know the person, and i bet you ba people dont know 90% of your opponents.

not to mention, the high rise of the "sfo group" that lurks around FBA. people from sfo play against other people from SFO on FBA.

thats like a republican using democratic strategies i norder to win.
its like a karate master using the moves of his opponent (a mui tai fighter) i norder to win the karate master title.

FBA is just as laggy as SFO, the only di ferance is that people who complain about lag, leave SFO for fba. they then meat up with the same people from SFO, (who most likley have fast connections) and play against each other, un laggified.

c'mon, t2w, i would have tought of you to use less biased oppinions, and non fact-based points in your argument. from what ive read, its a bunch of reideration and "it just is" statments.
well, the arcade sucks! i have fba, played it, beat it in like 30 minutes. played against other people, and when i was selecting a charector, i was like, "ahh, flip it".

What the heck are you talking about? SFO was desiged to be like a game..... (Which was XMvsSF) Why play a repleca the game when you can play the real thing.

Also, who cares if you beat the game.... Its online play, you play against other peopel that know how to play to improve. I dont know about you, but when i usto go to the arcades, not everyone knew hwo to play all crazy.... I was the best in my towns arcade.

SO what then, where to find challenges? Well i want to play the real game, so why play SFO when i can play the "REAL" game that is in the arcades.

i didnt know the person i was playing against, i didnt have a rivilary with him, or a strive to beat him.

Not everyone plays because they have a rivilary with someone.... ITs just a match, your going to play to enjoy the competition, not to take it personally.

not to mention, the high rise of the "sfo group" that lurks around FBA. people from sfo play against other people from SFO on FBA.

Because its people they know...... have you played FBA on Killera? It goes faster and you have a better time when you play someone you know.

And i bet that out of this gamming community, you guys really dont know of another or play another online game out there.

thats like a republican using democratic strategies i norder to win.
its like a karate master using the moves of his opponent (a mui tai fighter) i norder to win the karate master title

I beg you to refrase those... cause they make no sense in this argument.

FBA is just as laggy as SFO, the only di ferance is that people who complain about lag, leave SFO for fba. they then meat up with the same people from SFO, (who most likley have fast connections) and play against each other, un laggified.

WTF have you been smoking? I bet you've been smoking that "Machaca" for to long. You've been up a couple of days.

There is no comparison... if you have a reliable PC, with a fast connection, why settle for less?

Lets compare the basic facts.....

SFo has more lag than FBA

FBA has all characters of of many di ferent games, SFo has only a few characters of only one game.

You can pull o f combos and techniques that are used for strategy to beat your oponent, SFO...... Projectile, projectile, projectile, super, projectile, projectile, projectile, super.

There for..... Game play on FBA is waaaaay better than SFO.
WHo cares about the community if the game sucks. Most of the people that regularly post here dont even play no more.

Face the facts..... FBA is better.

Tell me this... would you pre fer SFO for the Playstatio nor XmvsS for the Playstation?

[dominicankid098]

Ok then why are you here still arguing? go on to your ck-evolution. if you think the game *sucks* you dont belong to be in the community.

I want to see you create something better.

[Virtual Fighter]

i wouldnt carry this argument to ck-evo, because im only defending this community. I dont go to kaillera, and say how much it sucks.
i dont go to ck-evo, and say how much their game sucks.

BTW: t2w, i really dont have the strenght to make a rebutle to most of your arguments, but i do have one strong one in mind that i thought i might make a point on.

you're "freind", did you show him SFO when it bearly started, when it was only xvsSF? or did you show it to him now? did you just say "here are two online games, choose which you like the most"?

because if you were to do that, 99% of the time, they would choose FBA. they would choose the number of charectors of SFO, and obiouse bugs.

but if they were to grow into this community, be a part of it since the beggining, learn about what SFO has been through, and then give the story of the xvssf rom you showed him, which goes something like this "some guy turned the game into computer, and then put it on the net", you'de have to be a cold hard bastard not to simpitize with SFO.

FBA is like the machine.

[tupac2westsider]

i wouldnt carry this argument to ck-evo, because im only defending this community. I dont go to kaillera, and say how much it sucks.
i dont go to ck-evo, and say how much their game sucks.

BTW: t2w, i really dont have the strenght to make a rebutle to most of your arguments, but i do have one strong one in mind that i thought i might make a point on.

you're "freind", did you show him SFO when it bearly started, when it was only xvsSF? or did you show it to him now? did you just say "here are two online games, choose which you like the most"?

because if you were to do that, 99% of the time, they would choose FBA. they would choose the number of charectors of SFO, and obiouse bugs.

but if they were to grow into this community, be a part of it since the beggining, learn about what SFO has been through, and then give the story of the xvssf rom you showed him, which goes something like this "some guy turned the game into computer, and then put it on the net", you'de have to be a cold hard bastard not to simpitize with SFO.

FBA is like the machine.
WHen i started playing this game, i tried to get every one of my friends into it.

Everyone hated it.

I dont knwo what i saw in it... but i liked it in the begining. Though i have to agree with them now. I dont like it. Its the familiar faces that keep me here posting.

Not playing the game

Posting.

PS: Why hate on Killera... i doesnt suck, and it doesnt lag as much. No problems with it yet..... but trust me, if something was bad about that game, i would be the first one to bitch about it. but its great.

Plus, i dont simpitize...... Its a game, and thats what it should be and stay, a game.

Dont get to attached to it.... I got better things to do than get lagged out of my mind.

If you have a good PC, and a very good Connection.... why put that to waste on laggy, have done games. its better to get my montly Cable bill's money worth and computer to good use.



Edited By tupac2westsider on 1093673562

[iTALY]

once again, cs pwns both..

And i pwn you all in cs.

[dominicankid098]

ok tupac2westsider, the point virtual fighter is trying to make is, Why do you come to this forum talking about fba and putting down sfo? What use is that? Are you trying to make some of the members leave this game just to go to fba?

I doin't see no point or purpose of that. *shakes head*

[tupac2westsider]

ok tupac2westsider, the point virtual fighter is trying to make is, Why do you come to this forum talking about fba and putting down sfo? What use is that? Are you trying to make some of the members leave this game just to go to fba?

I doin't see no point or purpose of that. *shakes head*
That question was asnwered 3 posts ago :blues:

And i pwn you all in cs.

Yeah, i suck at it...

[~Mastermax~]

another thing about fba is that it crashes all the fliping time!!!

u never play sfo then it forces u to quit then when u open something else, it will tell u u don'ty have enough system resources.

and fba gets really boring playing the same games, when sfo is ever changing

my third point is that on sfo u see people u recognize all the time, on fba it's just another person from who knows where speaking french!!!!!

[KidKrazyShit]

Usually any thread about emulators is locked automatically, but I like where this is going.

We have our FBA lovers, who are posing some very good points.

Then the SFO loyalist. Who are defending ther community surprisingly well. One could think how you could argue aganist FBA(which doesn't have that many flaws) but those in favor of SFO have been arguing not just for the the game, but for the community as a whole.

Now obviously I love SFO much more than any emulator, but if you just compared each game alone, it would be hard for the SFO side to win, but if you compare SFO w/ the community, I believe it over powers any emulator.

Please, continue w/ this debate. Very interesting =/

[pip99]

Yeah i read it all....i still say SFO beats any emulator.

you people still forget people can use Auto aim hacks etc i nemus....

I just prefere sfo hands down. the game and the community.

[Shobou]

I'm still apart of the 2001 species... Just on a di ferent user name if anyone remembers cydrops or DJ Masta late 2001
yea me to i wasnt really none just a #### then im mush beter now and i had dail up then but yea im in a di ferny name it was dark-night :ghostface:

[abc123test]

Ok, well I would like too say something since you say "people who play emulators and say that emulators are better then fba don't need too be apart of sfo."

Thats a load of crap I don't care what you say about it in my eyes you just can't beat the combos and air combos o fBA! Besides you might say that sfo is for ever changing well guess what the more it changes and the more chars. added the more it will LAG!

So when you have all most every char. in the game on the char. select list guess what? It will LAG LIKE CRAZY!

So when you look at sfo future it just gets laggyer by the update the more they add the more it lags. UNLESS something comes out that can stop lag and from what I am seeing that day will be sometime in the net 10 years or more. If it dose happen which is very very slim that it will and is allmost 99.9% that it wont.

So as you can see the helpers that will be added the more that play the game the more lag it will get and as it becomes alot more popular there will be allmost over 1,000 hits a day think of haveing that many people on the game the system can't handle it. I mean FBA has the system needed too take that kinda population and still hardly lag. There is no way sfo could doo what fba can I mean the main thing is you can't get a COMBO! on SFO and it makes it as if the game is childs play. From the points that most of this has made you can't touch the system o fba or the less lag of it.


O and also if someone says they are the best at sfo and can beat any one at any thing. I will sure let them try and take any one on fba system they would be comboed too death like it wasn't funny I mean come on guys get real.

EDIT: Also too add with fba you can buy a game box and plug any controlers into it and use it on fba. Giving it a more real fell of a arcade game like!

Any one who says that fba games get dumb let me tell you, yhou don't know a thing about fba then since there are soo many games you can chosse from also you never have too worrie about haveing too re download every time a update pops up. The non sfo where you do.

The community o fba is a spread out one the main forum isn't for talking ect. when it comes too fba you get down and just play.



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[iTALY]

Yeah i read it all....i still say SFO beats any emulator.

you people still forget people can use Auto aim hacks etc i nemus....

I just prefere sfo hands down. the game and the community.
You can also "cheat" in SFO, so i fail to comprehend your point.

As a game, i don't really like sfo because its just like all fighter games. They get boring after a while, and thats the truth.

but our community is much better the nother games, because we have one big community, whereas other games have hundreds of little communities.



Edited By iTALY on 1093738608

[Dark~Blanka]

[color=#000000]..sfo is a di fernt game from all the other games if youthink of it

[dominicankid098]

Its the familiar faces that keep me here posting.
That does not even answer the question. What is the point of you coming here just to put down sfo? I don't caer what keeps you here. I just want to know why you come here just to put down sfo.

[Virtual Fighter]

Yeah i read it all....i still say SFO beats any emulator.

you people still forget people can use Auto aim hacks etc i nemus....

I just prefere sfo hands down. the game and the community.
You can also "cheat" in SFO, so i fail to comprehend your point.

As a game, i don't really like sfo because its just like all fighter games. They get boring after a while, and thats the truth.

but our community is much better the nother games, because we have one big community, whereas other games have hundreds of little communities.
yes, but i doesnt have the Tmyapp charector going in and changing it, saying "okay, i updated the rom, it is now fixed so that you can cheat"

one point i do like making is community. fba vs sfo community wise, sfo pwnz fba.
lets see how they stack up:

original creator, giving users a sence of authority:
sfo - yes
fba - no... (i might be wrong, but i doubt it)

one main forum, where you can voice your oppinion:
sfo - yes, two main forces of power (BG, SFO forum)
FBA - no, but it all depends on what group you are in

one common reason in being part of the community
sfo - yes, to play the game and to try to be the best in SFO
FBA - yes, with a but. FBA is a nemulator, capable of playing millions of games. you dont have one common game, or one common community. it is so spread of, ambiguose and sketchy, you dont automatically fit in.

groups of people, of "cliques" to fit in with
sfo - yes
FBA - unknown (with a but, since the only group i know of in FBA is the "Ex-SFO people's group", which is the one most of you participate in

respected members and not-so-respected member
SFO - yes
FBA - ambiguose and unclear

ranks, tournies and rivalries
SFO - yes, but the rank system isnt too good
FBA - yes, but no rank system and due to its amiguidy of its o ficial forum and community, its hard to be part of one


i can go on and on, how SFO's community over powers it. and after all, thats the reason we play. to be part of a COMMUNITY based game.

another thing: you keep coining the phraise FBA. FBA is a nemulator, SFO is a game. Yes, ofcourse FBA is gonna own SFO, but if we compare kailller and JUST the xvssf rom, against SFO and its community, the matches are pretty well stacked.

[abc123test]

Ok so I think we have come too a agreement. sfo community/communitys over power fba.


Although Fba over powers sfo in a game/arcade/skill vertion.

[Virtual Fighter]

well, yes.. but you see, again you use "FBA". fba and SFO arent exactly the same, or even simmilar. if we're gonna make a comparreson, it should be KAillera and it's XvsSF community and the XvsSF rom, compared to SFO.

that is at least fair =/

[iTALY]

well, yes.. but you see, again you use "FBA". fba and SFO arent exactly the same, or even simmilar. if we're gonna make a comparreson, it should be KAillera and it's XvsSF community and the XvsSF rom, compared to SFO.

that is at least fair =/
It really doesnt matter what we compare it too, because we all know the game play does not match up to other pop. online/multiplayer games.

And we all know the xmvsf community was great.

[ish]

Some ppl find fba better than sfo and vice versa just a matter of opinion, so telling someone continously that such and such better than this and that makes no sense bcz at the end of the day you are wasting your breath, some ppl prefer the added factor of lag for suprise attacks and working lag to their advantage, some prefer no lag at all and base their gameplay on 100% skill.

well im from 2001 and dont post that often but im back...i just don't play that game very often cuz i love playing socom 2....and this game just can't compare.....still a great game tho.....and i still keep in touch with other 2001 members (sorryforkillingyou, and some others..)

Hey I am 2001 when i stated playing this game. but i was new and I dunno what is forum mean so I didnt post at forum cuz i dunno how to cuz i was new.
You sure you were born then?
hahahahahahhaha
i was laughing my head off reading that

apparently estset was 7 years old at that time

anyways why dont you "vets" just try playing again..... it might be boring for you to play ####s,
i would love to play.......if i could get into a server

btw whats '####s'?

TAG DOESNT TAKE SKILL.. imagine what a *new generation* fighter can do using both vip and tag..
vip stands for very important person doesnt it?
so how can u use a vip?

anybody here remember me?
i used to come but then i stopped and now i'm back
i used to be a pretty good fighter



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[abc123test]

Stop spaming, there is a edit button you know.

[Master_Jay]

SFO isn't even near the league of FBA. I don't see why something as good as FBA is being compared with SFO. Although, FBA does require good connection (DSL, Cable).

but CS is 10x better than any of them. (my opinion)

buT sfo (XvsSF) was better in the past, until the rookies took over and most vets such as my self became extinct... The good ol days...

CS>FBA>SFO



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[~Mastermax~]

SFO isn't even near the league of FBA. I don't see why something as good as FBA is being compared with SFO. Although, FBA does require good connection (DSL, Cable).

but CS is 10x better than any of them. (my opinion)

buT sfo (XvsSF) was better in the past, until the rookies took over and most vets such as my self became extinct... The good ol days...

CS>FBA>SFO
doesn't fba get boring i mean come on it's the same it's been the same and it will stay the same. sfo on the other hand is forever progressing on and on.

sfo is much more organized than fba too, i mean it has a ranking system and a community, we all kno the big players in sfo, but there aren't any for fba becuase there is no way to know.



and the word vets seems to be overrated now, i mean sure they were here longer but that doesn't make them any better, i mean we are all equal and it is only a matter of skill.

you never hear the word vet thrown around on any other online games, so why here?


and people are way too cheap on cs now and days.

[Master_Jay]

^^^Rookies took over SFO... The ranking system makes it even worse...

[iTALY]

People are cheap in cs now??

Thats nub talk. Your probably one of those users that complain about awps and auto snipers =/

[~Mastermax~]

People are cheap in cs now??

Thats nub talk. Your probably one of those users that complain about awps and auto snipers =/
everyone just sits in high places and camps, i'd take faster and more competative combat such as alien vs. predator 2.

i stopped playing cs, wen i discovered socom 2.....then cs didnt exist anymore...

[pip99]

People are cheap in cs now??

Thats nub talk. Your probably one of those users that complain about awps and auto snipers =/
see this is why i dont play CS any more

to many geeks play it....with there " auto aim " =/


they see you on screen and dont even have to aim click the mouse and your dead =/

[~Mastermax~]

People are cheap in cs now??

Thats nub talk. Your probably one of those users that complain about awps and auto snipers =/
see this is why i dont play CS any more

to many geeks play it....with there " auto aim " =/


they see you on screen and dont even have to aim click the mouse and your dead =/
whoa theres an auto aim on cs?

no wonder i always got killed by camping n00bs that easily...

[pip99]

you have much to learn padawan. ???

[floaterz]

I remember CS but I forgot where it is I used to play it a while back but stopped can't eremember why ???

[Dark~Blanka]

aww could someone tell where to play these games like cs and ssocom 2

[ish]

aww could someone tell where to play these games like cs and ssocom 2
Well you would need to buy the game (Cs) inorder to play, since a serial number is required to play online, although their are serial numbers on the net, not sure if they are genuine or not, if it is genuine you can download it from the net/kazaa.

[TarkanX]

This is getting off topic.