I don't get it... - Are you all retarded or something?

[TarkanX]

People say the game is better now than it was in October 2001, well in my opinion, that is just some bull sh*t, because most fo the people who say that haven't even played the game that long ago. October 2001 was skill based, sure there was lag, but the move set was unpredictable, and strategies were made every second, but what about now? You do optic blasts all the time, and you win, you do maximum spider all the wime, and you win, hmm... lets keep away with hadoukens shall we? WTF, are you mad?!?!! This game is no better than it was in Oct 2001, skill-wise.

In Oct 2001, you had to train, and learn from the masters to be decent, you had to put up hours in XvSF to be with the pros, what about now? In one hour, some rookie kills a pro no prob. In Oct 2001, super moves were dodgable, and they didn't exploit brokenness, now? Mega Optic Blast, Evil Ryu Mega super duper shinkuu gou zankuu hado of air fireball good ness!!!

In Oct 2001, normal moves(c.MP, c.Hk, j.HK) dominated the game for the most part, now?? Good you know what I was going to say, here is a cookie!!

I don't see any improvement in skill, other than a loss in that factor, only newer characters, newer moves, improved game engine, and that's it. Instead of repetitive matches(When you know whats going to happen when you face a Cyke, spidey, or Sent user), how about some unpredictable matches, like it was 1 1/2 years ago? If you want to disprove, go ahead, but you probably don't know what I'm talking about.

Also, a note, I don't care if you say back then, people were rank hungry, because those rank hungry people HAD to fight the pros or they would be ridiculed(Since they were a minority at the time), and usually, rank hungry people are just as bad as they should be, but times has changed, the rank hungry is the majority, most of the pros have left, and if you are at rank 100+ and want a challenge, good luck finding them, unless against ####ies(Just happened to em right now).



Edited By TarkanX on May 11 2003 at 01:42

[asshole]

" Back then, PeoPle were rank hungry(rier). "

Hahahaha!

[iTALY]

those were the good days....

and i think tarkan just made this cuz he lost to a noob....

yeah i know ;)

[MasterX05]

Shutup! Tark here has a point back in the day with Ryu u hade to have strategies, I remember I was a killer with him upclose pulling of mad combos, even when wolve and chun-li was in the game. I was really good with ryu and never just did hadoken,hadoken, or Drill calw,drill calw drill claw. It makes no since and I cant even get in close to beat the snot out of ppl with my bare hands, cause they keep thowing haoukens,drillclaws and opticblast. I agree with Tarken there are nearly not any true masters around. Alomost all players abuse thier moves which is nonsense, I even notice in the real X-men vs sf ryu does not thow his hadoukens as fast and repeated in this version. And as for spidey web ball,web ball. All they do is hop in the air and web ball or spidey kick till they get thier gauge full. And do maxium spider or web sting.
And one thing I notice I rember TmyApp said even if someone thew a hadouken it would not stop your super like wolvies. But it still does. Most ##### their main strategies is do the same move over and over and pull of a super or Variable

[asshole]

I was really good with ryu and never just did hadoken,hadoken, or Drill calw,drill calw drill claw.
Whoa Whoa Whoa!! Are you telling me there's a character who can do Drill Claws AND Hadounkens?


I cant even get in close to beat the snot out of ppl with my bare hands, cause they keep thowing haoukens,drillclaws and opticblast.
And there's a character who can ALSO DO OPTIC BLASTS, along with HADOUKENS and DRILL CLAWS!?!?

[Toon-Ryu]

Can't you see he is talking about the opponet and I know your joking but still...

[MasterX05]

lol Asshole is always like that

[DX Zero]

TarkanX is right..you used to be able to move during a super, and almost everything else :biggrin:

[SolidSnake76]

what the hell is happening to this game?

i get caught up in alot matches with sum cheap bitch but i still wipe the floor clean of them. as far is i concerned about wolverine, only good fights i find with him is few pple i trained, who i showed the number of combos to. the combos i invented.

i really didnt think a wolve user could be cheap until i seen 'drill claw drill claw, drill claw, drill claw, drill claw, BBX, drill claw drill claw, drill claw, drill claw, drill claw, BBX, BBX' and that ####.

ryu is a different story, hadouken the entire damn match.

and italy, that statement u said proves ur one of them.

[da_realX]

lol it might be tru, but not all of us are ne w bs and some of us have skill, solid is good not cheap, so is digi, pip, italy, resident....i would say myself, but im not cocky....

yeah right lol .TarkanX lost to a #### hehe :laughlong:

[iTALY]

solidsnake get off my case fag...ur just pissed cuz i beat ur gay ass wolvie and proved u SUCK with wolvie

[Roll's Friend]

TarkanX, those ideals were partially true,,but here is a ####ies point of view...

At those times those veterean members were just playing Street Fighter vs. XMEN for the first time.Us ####ies have played those games most of our childhood.We had pretraining before the online game...you told me that you had to somewhat be tutored in the art of playing this game yourself...

That time was a beginner ara we are in a revolution of the community TarkanX.....You of all people need to realize this.....

[DanYankees]

People say the game is better now than it was in October 2001, well in my opinion, that is just some bull sh*t, because most fo the people who say that haven't even played the game that long ago. October 2001 was skill based, sure there was lag, but the move set was unpredictable, and strategies were made every second, but what about now? You do optic blasts all the time, and you win, you do maximum spider all the wime, and you win, hmm... lets keep away with hadoukens shall we? WTF, are you mad?!?!! This game is no better than it was in Oct 2001, skill-wise.

In Oct 2001, you had to train, and learn from the masters to be decent, you had to put up hours in XvSF to be with the pros, what about now? In one hour, some rookie kills a pro no prob. In Oct 2001, super moves were dodgable, and they didn't exploit brokenness, now? Mega Optic Blast, Evil Ryu Mega super duper shinkuu gou zankuu hado of air fireball good ness!!!

In Oct 2001, normal moves(c.MP, c.Hk, j.HK) dominated the game for the most part, now?? Good you know what I was going to say, here is a cookie!!

I don't see any improvement in skill, other than a loss in that factor, only newer characters, newer moves, improved game engine, and that's it. Instead of repetitive matches(When you know whats going to happen when you face a Cyke, spidey, or Sent user), how about some unpredictable matches, like it was 1 1/2 years ago? If you want to disprove, go ahead, but you probably don't know what I'm talking about.

Also, a note, I don't care if you say back then, people were rank hungry, because those rank hungry people HAD to fight the pros or they would be ridiculed(Since they were a minority at the time), and usually, rank hungry people are just as bad as they should be, but times has changed, the rank hungry is the majority, most of the pros have left, and if you are at rank 100+ and want a challenge, good luck finding them, unless against ####ies(Just happened to em right now).
Everything is true that Tark said. I especially agree that everyone was rank hungry. That was what made the competition in this game. Everyone dreamed to make it to the top 50.

I want the old school version...

[PSYCHO]

solidsnake get off my case fag...ur just pissed cuz i beat ur gay ass wolvie and proved u SUCK with wolvie
THAT IS SO TRUE
i raped him too btw :p

[TMyApp]

bitch bitch bitch....

[asshole]

Dude TMyApp, I don't care if this is your game, but don't EVER call me a Bitch again. And I'm not kidding! ;]


But uhh Sbyrd, are you telling me that Vets never Played any SF games before this game? That's what your Post said, well SF's been out since 84, i'm sure everyones' Played it.

[Roll's Friend]

Dude TMyApp, I don't care if this is your game, but don't EVER call me a Bitch again. And I'm not kidding! ;]


But uhh Sbyrd, are you telling me that Vets never Played any SF games before this game? That's what your Post said, well SF's been out since 84, i'm sure everyones' Played it.
Well Asshole, everyone played the streetfighter on Super Nintendo,but not everyone played the faster playstation arcade streetfighters.When I say this I mean part of the majority never played this version...
That is what made that ara most talked about....can't you see....

At that period of time not everyone was skilled.....adjusting to the keyboard took time...also with the reduced lagg..

Actually I bet many of those battles the users didn't even bother to super jump,because no one knew how to that good....

I heard of this during that time there was an record option TMYAPP installed into the system.I don't know if it still works,but some of the original 20 used it.

If we could just get our hands on one member that recorded one of his/her old matches we could study them and see if my theory is correct?! <!--emo&:sneaky:

[Neo_genic]

I honestly think it is the price to pay for the popularity of the game. Because a lot of people play it ou'll get the cheap bithces that do the same move after move. Now we have to find out what can be done about it!

[MasterX05]

When i first played I know exactly what to do with ryu tag, hadoukens hurricane kick, supers all those. We have people playing the game and no even bothering to figure out how to play the game.

Thats just plan stupid and I know people who ignore the rules or instructions, they prefer to figure it out themselfs. And I really get pissed off when Im in a server and my partner ask me how do u tag. Im like what the ### your @ss shouldnt even be playing the game if u dont even ow to ####### tag.

When I started out I went stright to pratice mode and was seeing how things works. After hours of pratice I went to play and kicked ass, you would not think I was a noob the way I played (first time) but know when new players join they go straight to start dont even bother to pratice or look in options to know what the keys are.

[DX Zero]

hmmm Roll's Friend, it doesnt take a genius to master a game with RYU as the only character.. I played the first time and to tell u the truth I got owned by the 'vets' but I did pretty well for a beginner. After a month I became well known (sorta), there was no limit to superjump (everyone HAD TO know how to use this to win), teleportation was usual, and was part of the obstacle to master to become as good as the top 10. Oh and the record option didn't appear until later (a little before tag team ability).

[SSJKarma]

am i the only one to remember that we were like 1000 users back then and that about 500 of them were HADOKEN HAPPY THROWERS ?

and am i the only to remember that lag was 10x times stronger then it is now ?

come on, tarkan !
back then, i had fought about 25 opponents including yourself, and on that, only you actually used hand to hand combat !
that's why i didn't play that much back then cause skills were non existent !

i was playing back in september 2001, the first thing i knew, i was beaten up by people that only did hadokens all over the place while disappearing from one side to the other and before i had to turn around the already were appearing in the next side of the screen !

as far as STRATEGIES are concerned, hadokens happy throwers had always existed and they kinda were a lot more back then cause we didn't have that much peoples to play the game... you think its a shame to have a ratio of about 1:25 fight that good ? think again, that ratio didn't change one bit from the time being. the only thing that changed is the number of people playing the game !

half of the community is hadoken happy throwers while the other half are actually fighting hand to hand. it didn't changed from back then. except that back then, we were only a 1000, now we are 300000 !

so i say its just nrmal that you think you see a difference, but i don't see it ! back then or today, people like fear tetsuo kept on firing those hadokens all the times !

[bloodpack]

so whats the point of this? you cant complain about someone being cheap,
in real life, cheaters really exist, the idea is HOW YOU DEAL WITH THEM...

[HELLOTHERE]

am i the only one to remember that we were like 1000 users back then and that about 500 of them were HADOKEN HAPPY THROWERS ?

and am i the only to remember that lag was 10x times stronger then it is now ?

come on, tarkan !
back then, i had fought about 25 opponents including yourself, and on that, only you actually used hand to hand combat !
that's why i didn't play that much back then cause skills were non existent !

i was playing back in september 2001, the first thing i knew, i was beaten up by people that only did hadokens all over the place while disappearing from one side to the other and before i had to turn around the already were appearing in the next side of the screen !

as far as STRATEGIES are concerned, hadokens happy throwers had always existed and they kinda were a lot more back then cause we didn't have that much peoples to play the game... you think its a shame to have a ratio of about 1:25 fight that good ? think again, that ratio didn't change one bit from the time being. the only thing that changed is the number of people playing the game !

half of the community is hadoken happy throwers while the other half are actually fighting hand to hand. it didn't changed from back then. except that back then, we were only a 1000, now we are 300000 !

so i say its just nrmal that you think you see a difference, but i don't see it ! back then or today, people like fear tetsuo kept on firing those hadokens all the times !
and another thing i dont see why they made the option for players. i no some people dont have emails to register or anything. both thos f####n homo's come on the site then they choose a person to piss off then they go somewhere else on the site and find another person to piss off :angryfire:

[Dreadlocks]

I know how you guys feel, I too also remember it back then.
only 3 characters, RYU CHUN-LI and the Wolv. it didn't matter who you pick, what matters is what you can do with that character, and I don't mean just fireballs. But I did hate the lag. I'd do a 99 hits combo on a person and he didn't lose not one drop of health. I'd out smart him, beat him, do constant combos on him, but he never died until he did all his stuff and killed me. That still happens now.

Nowadays, the only way to deal with ##### is be spidey or chunli. With spidey you do a web ball, because the web ball recover time is faster than the hadoken, then follow up with the spdey kick. With Chun-li, do the fireball super and it with overcome the fireball.

[pip99]

it was best in like jan...to april

when the game was onwed by people like


darkvirus
dany
pip99
ecw
_FIGHTER_
nferno666
nightcrawler7
blaze985
skeevis
yourassismy
ether
coolkilla
afterburner
thelegacyweapon
dam carlmarx
tj.
vipernightgerm
MvCsucks (twat)
rs4ever
thenuge..



loads more i could do that losut 4 ever....when every1 new each other and when every1 went for rank..i remember when i got into the top 20...i was proper chuffed.And when i beat some1 good you actually got a lil rush.Back then i was a full on ryu user anyway

[TarkanX]

At those times those veterean members were just playing Street Fighter vs. XMEN for the first time.Us ####ies have played those games most of our childhood.We had pretraining before the online game...you told me that you had to somewhat be tutored in the art of playing this game yourself...

That time was a beginner ara we are in a revolution of the community TarkanX.....You of all people need to realize this.....


I was tutored, somewhat... My friend(in real life) told me some of Ryu's moves, I was never tutored in the game, but I did get some tactical strategies from fellow members.



bitch bitch bitch....

What am I bitching about? I didn't ask for anything.


Actually I bet many of those battles the users didn't even bother to super jump,because no one knew how to that good....

Are you saying the majority we fought are poorly skilled? And then you're leaning on to saying that we were rank hungry(just a guess). What about the actually good users. The best vs the best, the underdogs at it with eachother, the titans, what about them?


hmmm Roll's Friend, it doesnt take a genius to master a game with RYU as the only character

You're right, it doesn't take a genius, but you also have to know the game, not the engine, etc.. but you have to knwo strategies, and those strategies, you have to counter with other strategies, and it goes on.


am i the only one to remember that we were like 1000 users back then and that about 500 of them were HADOKEN HAPPY THROWERS ?

Everyone is a hadouken happy thrower, but those(we) people had other stratgies than that.


and am i the only to remember that lag was 10x times stronger then it is now ?

I'm not sure about that... game specs, yeah, I guess, but IMO, the lag is stronger now than back then. Do you remember April 2002, when 4 player came out? In one day, this is how many of the greats appeared to be.

Before 4P
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Top
Tier 1(right here)
Bottom
Top
Tier 2
Bottom
Top
Tier 3
Bottom
Top
Tier 4
Bottom
Top
Tier 5
Bottom


After 4P
----------
Top
Tier 1
Bottom
Top
Tier 2
Bottom
Top
Tier 3
Bottom
Top
Tier 4(right here)
Bottom
Top
Tier 5
Bottom

Bah... useless info...


come on, tarkan !
back then, i had fought about 25 opponents including yourself, and on that, only you actually used hand to hand combat !
that's why i didn't play that much back then cause skills were non existent

Like an ancient chinese proverb says... You have to seek further to find what you desire.


i was playing back in september 2001, the first thing i knew, i was beaten up by people that only did hadokens all over the place while disappearing from one side to the other and before i had to turn around the already were appearing in the next side of the screen !


There was a technique called super jumping... you could do it a billion times... use it!


as far as STRATEGIES are concerned, hadokens happy throwers had always existed and they kinda were a lot more back then cause we didn't have that much peoples to play the game... you think its a shame to have a ratio of about 1:25 fight that good ? think again, that ratio didn't change one bit from the time being. the only thing that changed is the number of people playing the game !


I don't knwo where you got 1:25 from, but you're way off! Have you seen Cyclops? Spider Man? Wolverine? and of course Ryu/Evil Ryu? Repetitive move, repetitive move, repetitive move, super, repeat, thats how ALMOST every game goes now adays. There was more hand to hand combat back then than now, and some helpers were actually useful before they got screwed (Spiral, Guile).


so i say its just nrmal that you think you see a difference, but i don't see it ! back then or today, people like fear tetsuo kept on firing those hadokens all the times !

I assume you mean october Fear, he was a ####ie back then, he was learning, he has gotten much much better, and I tell you that he doesnt throw hadoukens all the time, or he wouldn't have won ToC3.

[SSJKarma]

am i the only one to remember that we were like 1000 users back then and that about 500 of them were HADOKEN HAPPY THROWERS ?

Everyone is a hadouken happy thrower, but those(we) people had other stratgies than that.

can't you just say that it didn't change from then and now ?
do you really see the difference that much ?
i sure don't see any difference except that in that time we were about 1000 while today we are 200000 more then before ! that's a lot of people you know, the difference is enormous. yet, the hadoken throwers didn't change from back then. half of use today is doing that stupidity thinking its the only to win a fight ! half of the 1000 back then had the same mind ! the only thing that makes you think there are more now a days, is that number of people ! since there is way more people then back then, you seem to have seen the problem getting bigger ! which it hasn't !

those i fight now a days, are less hadoken throwers then anyone i have fought back then !
its all a about how you see it !


and am i the only to remember that lag was 10x times stronger then it is now ?

I'm not sure about that... game specs, yeah, I guess, but IMO, the lag is stronger now than back then.
can't say cause your stats doesn't mean anything to me !
never liked tiers (don't need to explain why)

all i'm gonna say is... from day one, i'm probably one of the few that even thou i have changed computers, i still had the very same OLD PHONE MODEM that is a stupid 33,600bps ! that's really old you know !

so i say that if players like myself that played all the time with that kind of modem have really really seen a very very big difference in lag ! hell, for once i had recently a real match with a ping under 100 at all time ! which back then i couldn't even have a fight under 3000 !

if that means lag is worst then how come the opponent never really teleported for the whole match ?
this adding to the fact that TMYAPP as one of the worst modem ever to play with his very own game !
if he says there is really a difference in lag and that it is a lot lesser then it was, then i'm gonna say that is must be true !


i was playing back in september 2001, the first thing i knew, i was beaten up by people that only did hadokens all over the place while disappearing from one side to the other and before i had to turn around the already were appearing in the next side of the screen !


There was a technique called super jumping... you could do it a billion times... use it!
REALLY !
sorry, but i knew that game quite some times even before i was playing this online game, but if i knew, i was sure that others were too, that's why most of the people were super jumping all the time blasting thru the air at all time !

the lag was the biggest monster ever in this game back then.
cause of it you couldn't block, you couldn't know where everything was coming from, you couldn't tell what was your energy level, you couldn't prevent anything ! you had to ANTICIPATE what your ennemy would do, which is impossible since when you fight 1000 people for the first time, you don't even stand a chance because you don't know them !

why did you think HELPERS were asked in the first place, cause nothing could be donme to avoid a super since when it appeared it was already over ! now we don't have that problem anymore, the SYNC SUPER option is there to fix that problem !

the super jump lock was added because there was actually too many players that were super jumping all the times adding in lag a lot ! (thou i doubt it, never really seen a difference in lag if i super jumped) anyway... if that lock was in, it was because mainly all the users were using the super jump ! so why was it a great escape move if everyone was super jumping all the time ?


I don't knwo where you got 1:25 from, but you're way off! Have you seen Cyclops? Spider Man? Wolverine? and of course Ryu/Evil Ryu? Repetitive move, repetitive move, repetitive move, super, repeat, thats how ALMOST every game goes now adays. There was more hand to hand combat back then than now, and some helpers were actually useful before they got screwed (Spiral, Guile).

forget about the 1:25 ratio, it was meaning 1 fight out of 25 is actually good !
characters aren't cheap, the users are, if the users are over using those moves, then it is your job to find a way to block and keep close to em ! if i can do that easily, i guess you can too !

as for the helpers, yeah i agree, guile was faster back then, now it just takes forever to come out. spiral was kind of good when it first came out, but now she's almost helpless, and i also remember the sentinel (damn your red one) it was pretty good as ANTI-AIR move ! but its back then ! can't live with that #### in my head ! you gotta let it go sometimes !

I assume you mean october Fear, he was a ####ie back then, he was learning, he has gotten much much better, and I tell you that he doesnt throw hadoukens all the time, or he wouldn't have won ToC3.
never fought him back then and i never fought him today...
one quetion... if he is that good and fight more close range, then why is he claiming that hadokens are the only way to beat someone in this game ?

[VIRUS]

Thank you very much pip :D and mvc2sucks was indeed one of those...hehehe.

Tark: yee-haw! wel Me guess dat make me dumb bcuz udder dan wen 4 plaier wuz put in,,,,,lag have impruveded a lot . uh-huh!


Tark I dont get it why do you even post or hang around if you dislike the game so much nowadays ??? . Im not even going to go into what I think. I will say this however I find it amusing that someone is talking about how things are now...when they hardly ever play.

One more thing...You know it's funny I have been active since I started (a concept that it hard to grasp for some vets) and i have had my share of up's and down's BUT, I kept myself at a certain level why is that so hard for some ppl?. When this is all said and done the greats will be looked upon as the best EVER not the best in the first year the game was up when most ppl were #####.

Hmmm let me see who would I consider to be better:

Someone who had a great record when the game was brand new and had limited characters?

or

Someone who has been through all the updates, all the madness and all the characters (up to now) and can still bring it!

Hmmm I dunno tark says im dumb so Ill have to go with the first one :p

only newer characters, newer moves, improved game engine, and that's it.

Im sorry I had to quote it...there are not many times where I feel tark said something that just sounds silly but, there it is. I gotta ask one question tark....what the heck else do you expect?...hehehe



Edited By VIRUS on May 14 2003 at 13:43

[xUMJx]

:angryfire: :angryfire:

You can buy a VIP membership but that doesn't mean yoru a true HIGH POWERED ORIGINAL like me, the supreme master UMJ who has been here since the beginning!

UMJ IS BACK BITCHES!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

:angryfire: :angryfire:

[VIRUS]

Who you talkin' to ?....cuz I didnt buy a V.I.P membership I donated before perks so your arse has a place to return and make dumb arse post like "im back".

[Resident Evil]

i did the same but this time i donated almost 25 dollars to this game to help out. i donated to see if i could make something different or help out tmyapp.

[HELLOTHERE]

i did the same but this time i donated almost 25 dollars to this game to help out. i donated to see if i could make something different or help out tmyapp.
if u paid 25 doallars then did you get more things resident evil

[DX Zero]

ok... u know whats the real physical difference?

- i used to sweat my back off playing this game when im fighting one of the greats (top 10 usually) cuz u always have to be active, one wrong move and ur dead. now, i dont break no sweat whippin the chumps, and it only takes time when they get cheesy

- remember dxzero (3-8fps max)? mvc2sucks? manontherun? fear_tetsuo? token? etc. (no offense to the vets) well... its like fighting them all the time (laggy as hell) now. since they are great players, they have the lag advantage in their hands, they know what u might see, and what u might not, and its very hard to land something on them, and thus they are harder to be beaten as to every cheesy lagger out there (no offense again) but its true.

- remember ryu/wolvy corner traps? well u dont have to corner them anymore! with cycs opticblast, sentinal beams, wolvy drill claw, etc. it can be possible to perform a barrage of offense with these evil doers anywhere in the screen! =]

- how many bugs arrived after all these updates?

- unable to move during a super move performed by the opponent? too bad, guess u'll have to wait till they recover from attacking.

thats pretty much the major points um i dont know why i said that but just to tell u what i think is wrong.

[pip99]

mvc2sucks was indeed one of those...hehehe.
he was a prick and will always be a prick.


and dxzero ....and yeah its true...back then i could beat vipernightgerm..(killer lagger) with 3 ryu specials..NOW...it would take .....atleast 8 in 1 round...i mean have u played da vipa..i recorded a game..in which i did 12 specials just 2 win a round?And then u twats call me skilless for using sent smuck i can use ryu....i used 2 only use ryu and a lot of people would know that.##### are beating good people because of lag not skill.But the real laggers back then had a MAJOR advantage...and they still do know..just more killer laggers.

[Scorponok]

I can block supers perfectly.. what are you talking about pip?

[SolidSnake76]

i have sumthing to say about logan.

i getting sick and tired of these pple who bullpoop about how i suck with wolverine when i lose. wtf is jumping in the air, backing up, hitting high punch? then doing 2 or 3 supers?

look at this if u will.

example (http://www.boomspeed.com/solidsnake76/eyo2.WMV)

eyo commented: my strategy works.
lightbringer, who i fought, commented about his super jumps: nothing wrong with a few super jumps.

few huh? it was done the entire match. and when i almost had him the 2nd round, his laggy ass did sum rapid movement from me and did killer instict 3x.

the only person i see some hellraising in is da_realX. and he knows how to bring da damn pain.

a while back, italy was just like eyo. he tried to prove me wrong, and it worked, the recorded game is no good now.

really now, i see alot of abuse with logan. and more pple here are starting to use him too?

[iTALY]

i have sumthing to say about logan.

i getting sick and tired of these pple who bullpoop about how i suck with wolverine when i lose. wtf is jumping in the air, backing up, hitting high punch? then doing 2 or 3 supers?

look at this if u will.

example (http://www.boomspeed.com/solidsnake76/eyo2.WMV)

eyo commented: my strategy works.
lightbringer, who i fought, commented about his super jumps: nothing wrong with a few super jumps.

few huh? it was done the entire match. and when i almost had him the 2nd round, his laggy ass did sum rapid movement from me and did killer instict 3x.

the only person i see some hellraising in is da_realX. and he knows how to bring da damn pain.

a while back, italy was just like eyo. he tried to prove me wrong, and it worked, the recorded game is no good now.

really now, i see alot of abuse with logan. and more pple here are starting to use him too?
...how do u record games?

[Xicer]

Yea the old days weer sweet....I had to learn from Optimusprime. He helped me he trained me and I was so rank hungry...I fought everything and everyone till i was like rank 16-20...I was happy then I stopped playing for a while.I came back and I dont have those skillz anymore. I was so hungry that in liek 4 days of me playing i was top 20. Well anyway those days are gone.

:angryfire: :angryfire:

You can buy a VIP membership but that doesn't mean yoru a true HIGH POWERED ORIGINAL like me, the supreme master UMJ who has been here since the beginning!

UMJ IS BACK BITCHES!!! MWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

:angryfire: :angryfire:
hey shut the fk up man..ur weak #### and u dont own no one... u suck cok ..now shut the fk up angry man..ur gey ..blow urself up

[HELLOTHERE]

Yea the old days weer sweet....I had to learn from Optimusprime. He helped me he trained me and I was so rank hungry...I fought everything and everyone till i was like rank 16-20...I was happy then I stopped playing for a while.I came back and I dont have those skillz anymore. I was so hungry that in liek 4 days of me playing i was top 20. Well anyway those days are gone.
what was the whole piont of that story

[Xicer]

Lol Read the topic from the beggining....then ask me.lol

Solidsnake- would u mind sharing some of the combos that you invented for wolvy? Because this game doesnt have a combo engine(or air combo engine) like the real game, so i would be very interested to see what combos u invented that actually work.

Arg, why cant we have old school mode!!!!!!!! But tarkan is right, it was better back then. I honestly dont notice a difference in lag. Sure when 4 player mode came out there was hella lag, but tmyapp took care of it to a point. But all in all i dont see a difference in lag, when i hit someone i still dont see life being taken off more then before. But to everyone complaining about ryu users only using hadukens to win a match ........ shut the hell up!!!!! With how this game is setup and runs, that is what u have to do to win a game. We dont have aircombos,grabs,tech hits, counters,basic ground combos,resets,infinites, and canceling normal moves into spuper moves. The real game has all of that!!!!! We dont have any of that, so of course we have to make do with what we have and use hadukens to win. To all of u who think i am just making stuff up, go search and look for x-men vs street fighter tournament vids and tell me how u see ppl playing wolvy,ryu,cyclops. U will see a completely different style of fighting because of all the things it has that this version doesnt.

[SolidSnake76]

the combinations:
-This one is teleportation techniques:
On the ground the best way to get to the other side of the screen is berserker slash high[down, back, p3]. This is the best way to get pass optic blast low and medium and sent's fire beam.

But to pass hadouken or chun li's fireball, you should slide or super jump, drill claw, and come down with a high punch. the problem is a dragon punch or chun li's fancy kicks will cancel out the move and force wolverine back. so 8 out of 10 times, block while coming down and then attack. this is also an air teleportation maneuver and is the best offensive attack after a shinku-hadouken or mega optic blast is performed. this maneuver is to be used wisely or you wont have much of a chance getting close to the opponent.

-hit med punch as many times as you want and finish with a high punch.

-hit mid kick twice, high kick while crouching down, high punch while still down, and berserker barrage [or berserker barrage x].

-hit high kick while crouching down, high punch while still down, and berserker barrage.

-hit high kick while crouching down, slide, and berserker barrage [or berserker barrage x].

-this maneuver requires you to launch the opponent into the air when in the corner:
Press k3 two times, super jump up, press k3 again, then p3, drill claw, drill claw again and berserker barrage[or BBX].

-This requires the assistant of dr. doom:
Call out doom IMMEDIATELY do berserker barrage x. now if you do berserker barrage x twice, damage will be greater thanks to doom. Note: this might work better in the corner if you're not too lucky.

-press mk twice, super jump. mk, hk, drill claw X, berserker barrage.

-BBX, then drill claw X. reverse this if u want.

i should be called the master of wolverine. remember this (http://www.boomspeed.com/solidsnake76/eyo2.WMV).

[Scorponok]

What are you talking about? You don't need to go crazy with Hadokens to win..

[jigga]

tarkan needs a job.... he has too much time on his hands.

Still with the "better back in the day" talk?? Do you really not understand ping/lag well enough to know that people teleporting after .5 sec. is better then waiting 5 sec. for them to move.

Ping is down, lag is down, plain and simple. No more corner raping your opponent for about a minute at a time before backing off and letting them "teleport" to the other side with little or no damage taken.

No, lag is not completely gone (nor is it likely to ever be). But it's "getting" better in its own gradual process. It's a rare thing these days to see ping above 1000, and almost never reaches above 100 when you're hosting. This kind of thing was unheard of "back in the day".

Solidsnake-none of those combos combo into one another, so they arent considered combos. I tried each and none seem to combo into one another. ex:"press mk twice, super jump. mk, hk, drill claw X, berserker barrage" wtf is that?? that is clearly a made up move that doesnt connect or work in anyway. And wtf is with that vid??? It was just a poopty ass match with no point.

[SolidSnake76]

excuse me. i thought combos in THIS game were adding moves together. of course some of them are gonna be hard to connect. this one: press mk twice, super jump. mk, hk, drill claw X, berserker barrage will work if the person stays in place after you super jump. its a complicated move if u figure that out. until tmy puts the real stuff in, if that can ever happen due to LAG, this is the 'combos' that will work so be happy with them and use them well like the so called 'vet' u r.

and that vid is to prove a god damn point u mindless twit. notice how he just jumping back hitting high punch then ready to do a super? now tell me thats not cheap.

[SSJKarma]

i'll ask you the simple question !
what is a combo ?

basically... multiple hits that connects one after the others !
so basically, we have all those air combos and ground combos !
when you sucessfully rap a guy in the corner (how much time as it happenned) when you sucessfully land 3 consecutive hits like hadoken hadoken, jump kick then shinkuu ! then you just made a combo ! i actually have been able to pull out combos on the cpompouters and on some peoples around that fight hand to hand !

yes, you don't see the AIR-COMBO !!!!!!!!!!!! appearing after doing one, but if you hitted the guy a lot then you know he's jummping and you kicked him out of the air ! then you don't need to see that stupid text appear, you know you made one !

second simple question...
what is good in INFINITES ?
i'm glad not to have them around here !
yes the guy's pretty damn good if he pulled one off...
but losing an entire life bar without being able to do anything is really stupid, it knocks the game fun factor to a minimum !

that's the ame with varials !
what are they good for in this game ?
in the original game, the supers of the character can be done 4 times before actually kill someone... but in this game, two supers kill someone ! so in varials, its instant kill ! what's the fun of that ?

hadokens is the only way to win ?
how can i have that much wins when i'm not actually playing with hadokens all the time ?

lag being a killer and never changed ?
perhaps you never see the difference between 5 seconds and .5 seconds !
really like shinjuko said...
before when i was playing i had almost always over 3000 of ping. the ping is in MILISECONDS which means 1000 = 1 second. don't know how you see it, but over 3 seconds = over 3 seconds later ! whch means that what i see on my screen have already passed on about 3 seconds before. as we all know. 3 seconds is more then enought to be killed without even have been able to do anything except random moves hoping to not get it ! and you call that a fighting game ? i would have called it a HOPING GAME because you had to do random moves and HOPES was the only thing you could do !

now i hardly get over 1000 !
that's 4 seconds of lag gone for good !
maybe you never saw the difference ?
but seing the energy bar getting sucked in 1 seconds is better then waiting for an entire 5 seconds when you're in a very close match !

really, if you think this game sucks so hard, how come you are still here playing it ?

[TarkanX]

hey shut the fk up man..ur weak #### and u dont own no one... u suck cok ..now shut the fk up angry man..ur gey ..blow urself up

Hey man, respect him, he's at least a decade older than you(almost)


tarkan needs a job.... he has too much time on his hands.

That's what happens when you live in a hick state like MN, though where I live, it's no where near hick like as they say on TV.

2000warrior: When people foudn out about corner trapping, they found ways to avoid the corner, and they did that, they had to think about the fight, their strategy, and avoiding the corner, and others. The lag might be reduced now, all though I don't feel much. Teleporting gave strategies, prediction, you had to be quick, and have fast reflexes to be decent, unlike now where Cyke can sit on his ass all day bloating 3, and winning....


Snake: he does have a point, those aren't really comoes(though the game defines the moves as connecting, which is really wrong). But those are what I call strategies, or techniques.

Karma: I'll get back to you with that.


really, if you think this game sucks so hard, how come you are still here playing it ?

That's what I always ask myself. I always try my hardest to avoid it, and I've been doing a moderate job of it. And there's the fact that there's nothing to do. In my opinion, the only way to do something to not make me play this game for a long time is getting banned, which happened to me before... it might even happen again.

[SolidSnake76]

That's what I always ask myself. I always try my hardest to avoid it, and I've been doing a moderate job of it. And there's the fact that there's nothing to do. In my opinion, the only way to do something to not make me play this game for a long time is getting banned, which happened to me before... it might even happen again.
this game is addictive. this forum is addictive, i just cant stop coming here.

anyway, ok they aint combos but at least i made up sumthing.

[Termin8r]

That's what I always ask myself. I always try my hardest to avoid it, and I've been doing a moderate job of it. And there's the fact that there's nothing to do. In my opinion, the only way to do something to not make me play this game for a long time is getting banned, which happened to me before... it might even happen again.
this game is addictive. this forum is addictive, i just cant stop coming here.

anyway, ok they aint combos but at least i made up sumthing.
I guess ur right about the addictive forum thingy... Once I made my first post I just kept coming back for more everyday. Seeing how it's not so active as it used to be it's still fun! <!--emo&:corky:

[SSJSonic]

wouldnt it be cooler if you can train your charicter I mean like if you fight enough your power gets higher or your life gets higher that would get the game interesting they should try to get more companys to sponser them so they could put more stuff like the training thing and more charicters.

[SSJKarma]

you know SSJSonic (not really possible since sonic is far from being a saiya-jin) by saying that you just prooved that you don't even know this game !

there is no company sponcering it !
TMYAPP is all alone in production !
all the others that are mod are helping yes, buts its only forum based or money based. as it DONATING which is in no way a form of sponcering !

so basically, there is no company in itself that actually does this game !
its all about a simple guy that decided to do a simple game that lots of people happen to love !

unless you count PROJECTX.CYBERFUTURISM.COM as a company, there are none ! don't expect any ofifcial support from a game company either !

as for more characters, why do you think we got poll ?
the number of characters is far from being attainned, tmyapp is still in early developpment of the game, far from the final product which will with hop be lag free ! (well almost lag free)

[shin~bison]

SSJ Karma.. I like the way you've laid the facts down and all but lag free.. :biggrin: I doubt that... we can only hope :biggrin:

[Termin8r]

SSJ Karma.. I like the way you've laid the facts down and all but lag free.. :biggrin: I doubt that... we can only hope :biggrin:
Right. In the world of the Internet, Lag will always be right next to it. Besides, without lag we wouldn't have this game. So be thankful.

[xXsilverXx]

=/ ppl these dayz. there are rarely any honorable fighters these dayz lurking around in the game. freakin n00bz make me sick.

[SSJKarma]

far from the final product which will with hop be lag free ! (well almost lag free)
for those who don't know...
when i said that, i considered that lag was always existing while fighting over internet !

but if i ever consider it like any other internet games !
Q3A, UR2003 and the likes...

56K = between 100-200
CABLES = between 25-50

this game is like...
56K = 500 - 1000
CABLES = 100 - 400

see what i meant ?
this game still need a lot of lag tweaking, i'm glad tmyapp reduced it like hell, but still... he know he can do better then that, its just that a lot of things in his to-do list are needed far more then the lag fixing problem !

[Bunmi]

Karma man ???

[Termin8r]

[quote:post_uid8="SSJKarma"][quote:post_uid8="SSJKarma"]far from the final product which will with hop be lag free ! (well almost lag free)[/quote:post_uid8]
for those who don't know...
when i said that, i considered that lag was always existing while fighting over internet !

but if i ever consider it like any other internet games !
Q3A, UR2003 and the likes...

56K = between 100-200
CABLES = between 25-50

this game is like...
56K = 500 - 1000
CABLES = 100 - 400

see what i meant ?
this game still need a lot of lag tweaking, i'm glad tmyapp reduced it like hell, but still... he know he can do better then that, its just that a lot of things in his to-do list are needed far more then the lag fixing problem ![/quote:post_uid8]
Ur right... I never usually have much lag when playing Rise of Nations Multiplayer but I Lag like hell in this game... It takes more than 10 seconds for my moves to transfer to the other player (and that's just in quick game!) , while in RON it's usually only 1 second before my moves are connected. But at least i'm happy that the lag isn't as bad as it was 2 years ago.

[lil_Silverfox]

Hey how about this
How about if we take out cyclops out of the game and add a new character ARE we could take some of his optic move from him and give him some more fight move and wove doesn't bother me because i beat him everytime( :D ) and 1 more thing i can hardly get a good fighter to fight where is all of the real vet like

Asshole (i hardly see him around and when i do he don't fight me)
Pakistani(i haven't seen him for so long)
tarkanx(just returning)
Professor (the reall 1 where is he @)
darkmagican(hmmmmmmmm long time)
Nferno(i have seen him a couple time)
and more that i don't even remember this game has been taken over by inexperience noob :angry:

2 things this is silly tarkan is right i havent been on xmen for i long time i joined round 2001 changed my character and hes right its changed i dont get the biggy ??? some idiots come in to xmen and say it rocks and dont even know what its like thats 1 2 is stop arguing about its just a game carm down :)

[Termin8r]

Wow silverfox ur avatar scared me the first time I saw it. :eek:

[lil_Silverfox]

Termi8ter its best that u shut the #### up man i have been here way longer than u. Yall Noob always act like yall know everything and the sad thing is that yall Noob don't know ####.And the only reason that i got a #### beside my name is because i don't post that much u thing because u haver a vip beside ur name r because u have a advance member under your name ur good GO SUCK ON ************
(eXCUSE MY LANGUAGE PLL ) talking about no offence (F*** you !!)

[DX Zero]

ppl are too ignorant to listen Tark ;)

hmm one thing for sure...
memory usage increased and available cheap tatics had increased dramatically.

when i use to be on my 333mhz computer the game ran ok, not good but ok (about 12fps is playable for me). later on a few month after tag mode was released my game ran about 5fps, then when spidey was released 3fps

uhhuh u heard me, cheap tatics. wolvy had a rival - ryu. chun li join the frenzy. suddenly cyke, sent, onslaught, spidey popped up. all the old cheap taticc/glitches such as drill claw, hadoukens, lightin kick was useless now. instant beams shot everywhere, maybe even causing more lag. as if it wasnt dangerous enough u have 1% chance of blocking a super cuz u cant move when a super is performed.. some sort of glitch that happened on an update i guess, now u cannot block even more.. since there was already air/landing blocking problems.

one thing i notice is numbers of games has lowered. once used to be in the thousands now decline to dozens or hundreds of games. less players participate in this forum. and skillz also has declined dramatically....... ok i havent fought for months the last time. i come in, whip some guys ass in the top 50.. i mean wtf.. im not that good am i? top 50 were at least decent players that puts up a fight.. now i see.. its all in their gaming strategy, instead of fighting at all conditions like a true fighter will, they host games, taunt others, trickery, use any possible tatic to win, without the need of true skillz.

These kind of regression is what makes me think i have wasted a great deal of time here. I guess.. like any marvel vs. games.. things have changed for the majority of handicapped in fighting. alright that is all on my point of view. until ..........next time..

[SSJKarma]

well... i do not really agree with you DX, it does needs a lot more power in some versions, but in others the game is going perfectly !

it all depends on your machine. but unfortunately, updates will always happen ! and as far as i know, the programmings will always be giving you out bugs ! i mean that if you change one line of code, maybe the 37th lines under it will not work properly ! its always like that in programming !

anyway...
with my old AMD K6/2 500mhz
i do saw a big difference !

DX, maybe you didn't notice any difference cause you were under the minimum requirements of the game !
cause on my 500 (the minimum recommended by tmyapp)
i never really lost FPS after updates. ratherly, it was the controls in the game that were all messed up, then the next update it was running perfect, then medium then high then poor ! always playing around like that !

anyway... see my point ?
as for the lag, i couldn't explain it more then i did !

[Termin8r]

Termi8ter its best that u shut the #### up man i have been here way longer than u. Yall Noob always act like yall know everything and the sad thing is that yall Noob don't know ####.And the only reason that i got a #### beside my name is because i don't post that much u thing because u haver a vip beside ur name r because u have a advance member under your name ur good GO SUCK ON ************
(eXCUSE MY LANGUAGE PLL ) talking about no offence (F*** you !!)
What are you talking about? I never called you a noob :uhoh: