Who thinks buu can kick onslaughts a** - Evil buu vs onslaught

[DarkstriderX]

A question to boggle the mind, who is more powerful?
Honestly i think that buu will win.

What s your point on the subject.
Opinions Opinions!! :alien:

[Nantuko Joe]

When you say "evil buu", do you mean the thin, grey buu that fat buu expelled from himself? Evil buu would lose definately, but Kid buu....kid buu would prolly win

[Tidus2K2]

I agree. But how about we give out some moves that Kid Buu might do and how he would get rid of onslaught.

[mysticveggeto]

buu would win because onsolaught has only four moves buu has all the moves in dbz and onsaughlot doesent have kick or punch and also hes to slow

[princevegetam]

fool...... onslaught is a fusion of professor xavier and magneto. probrably the two most powerful mutants in x-men. he can manipulate minds and control metal.

[Tidus2K2]

To tell you the truth I think buu will kill him because when gotenks did his super ghost kamikaze attack on buu. Buu returned from mear smoke. Onslaught might have the advantage but lets compare the fight to what it's like currently. to me it's hard to debate with people who are hardcore Z-men fans and hardcore DBZ fans all because they think what they like is the best. Try following both for once and you'll know the answer.

[MasterX05]

When you say "evil buu", do you mean the thin, grey buu that fat buu expelled from himself? Evil buu would lose definately, but Kid buu....kid buu would prolly win
kid buu is the stroungest but uub is more so ya i agree with you :)

[mastaq]

fool...... onslaught is a fusion of professor xavier and magneto. probrably the two most powerful mutants in x-men. he can manipulate minds and control metal.
True but... Manipulateing metal does nothing to buu.. And if I'm correct buu is close to being MINDLESS.

[Roll]

No, Onslaught would win, because of all his abilities. Remember, in the video game he got less attacks than he really had. I mean, if he used his ability to paralyze buu's mind and body temporarily, Buu would be left defenceless, and without a chance to heal if Onslaught attacked him with full force.

[mastaq]

What if buu selfdestructed on Onslaught? :biggrin:

[Roll]

That would be impossible if his mind was paralyzed, because without his mind he can't do anything. and then there is his physical paralysis, which stops Buu from doing anything physical. Onslaught has Buu beaten all around! :biggrin:

[mastaq]

Ok I can agree with the paralysis.. But like I said buu is nearly MINDLESS. So the mind control will only paralize him not his mind, only physical paralysis.

[Razz]

Hah, you see... people are judging buu from the show and judging Onslaught by the game!
If theye were real, I think big ol' Onny would win :D

[mastaq]

Yeah go Onny! :biggrin:

[Tantum]

how bout, everyone can grow up a little, we don't need 50 DBZ vs X-Men topics!!!!

[Nantuko Joe]

Yes we do.


all of you ppl are forgetting something: you are talking about Ma-Jin Buu. He's the one with all the abilities. However, we're supposed to be talking about Kid Buu. Now, Kid Buu has no named attacks other than Bukujutsu (flying), Zanzoken (blurring), and basic ki blasts (even if there really strong).

and Roll, Buu doesn't have a brain. He's made of pure magic. He has no brain, no real stomach, and no real internal organs. Therefore, Onslaught's mind control would be invalid.

[Tantum]

joe, is your avatar super cheese man, from the porno cartoon, "give me that cheddar, baby"? :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[sk8erfox805]

i dont kno why but most of the ppl here talk about dragon ball z.. and WHO WOULD WIN>..!! . its getting old ..

[ApOcAlYp$e]

i see all tha buu episodes on my kazaa,from what i seen buu can not be stoped hes onstopable he would come back stronger each time u fight him. so WHAT im saying is Buu will Kick Onslaught @$$ :D

[Ludacris]

Buu can copy an opponent's attack just by seeing it.......so He could use Onslaught attack right back at him.......

[TarkanX]

Fools...! Don't you know Onslaughts real strength?!?! By the way are we talking about Kid Buu, or Super Buu 3(Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, Gohan). Because Super Buu 3 is his strongest Buu form.

Any Projectile attack Buu does on ONslaught, Onslaught would just direct it back at him. Onslaught can just shield himself. Onslaught can do what Freiza did to Krillin, the powers of Xavier, and the magnetic powers of Magneto. Onslaught can easily rid the earth by destroying it without trying, yes Buu can do that too. Onslaught can go at the speed of light, which no DB"Z" character except maybe Vegetto can do. And though Marvel.com is reliable, it doesn't give full details about the characters.

[xXsilverXx]

i agree with tark, i think. and by the way, aren't you supposed to be gone Tark? Like 4ever. Isn't that what u said or did i misunderstand? anyway, this is your dear ol silver-N-gold.

lol silver-N-gold ur back....guess who this is


Imagination :biggrin:

[MasterX05]

Buu can copy an opponent's attack just by seeing it.......so He could use Onslaught attack right back at him.......
yep thats true he did do goku's,vegeta's and Gotenks move. Right back on them.
Oh and mastaq Buu(the fat one) is mindless the others are more serious even kid buu really does not goof around like fat buu.

[akuma_forever]

hhhhhhuuuuuu more dbz freaks...OH WELL!!! :) ;) :p

[SSJKarma]

the fight would be good but BUU wins it !
why ?

-yes onslaught can get them back at him, but buu is much worst then cell on REGENERATION as he takes almost no time to do it !
-buu isn't killable as long as you don't deintegrate the very ATOMS who he is made of ! and that means destroying every single 1,000,000,000,000,000 that compose him !

but yeah, it would make a very good fight !

anyhow, nantuko you're wrong !
i have saw the very last DBZ episodes and UBUU and FAT BUU were both in it !
goku vs UBUU
while
FAT BUU VS Satan (in a card game at their home !)
FAT BUU died in GT bu UBUU had no choice but to absorb his power as they are one !

that just explain why sometimes your argument aren't even based on real facts but on your own judgement !

[Nantuko Joe]

anyhow, nantuko you're wrong !
i have saw the very last DBZ episodes and UBUU and FAT BUU were both in it !
goku vs UBUU
while
FAT BUU VS Satan (in a card game at their home !
FAT BUU died in GT bu UBUU had no choice but to absorb his power as they are one !

I already said, stop talking about GT! GT is not official, it contradicts the manga, and therefore is not valid in this argument.

And this is what happened:

When Vegetto rips out Super Buu's absorbing pods, I believe that Fat Buu is freed too (because he was absorbed by Evil/Thin Buu). Then, Fat Buu never died. However, Kid Buu was killed, and when wished back, Ubuu appeared.

So I AM right...

[QUIET_KILLER]

[quote:post_uid4="Nantuko Joe"][quote:post_uid4]anyhow, nantuko you're wrong !
i have saw the very last DBZ episodes and UBUU and FAT BUU were both in it !
goku vs UBUU
while
FAT BUU VS Satan (in a card game at their home !
FAT BUU died in GT bu UBUU had no choice but to absorb his power as they are one ![/quote:post_uid4]

I already said, stop talking about GT! GT is not official, it contradicts the manga, and therefore is not valid in this argument.

So I AM right...[/quote:post_uid4]
Buys SSjkarma a nestle crunch bar he bites it.He feels better for being kind of cruncchy :lol: Also Buu=Onslaught Murdered.Yeah try and wipe out his entire cells.Gotenks3 tried no luck split him in half blew up the divided pieces :biggrin: Result Buu was mader than before plus he turned into a coil or spring.Then shot Gotenk3 into a mountain :lol: Onslaught let him try and fight Buu that would be a joke Onslaught would be moidered :biggrin:

[Tantum]

ok, i think ya'll need to stop these topics, they are GOING NO WHERE!!! all you do is argue about a bunch of imaginary characters, IMAGINARY, that means its just for fun, so stop these arguement inducing topics please. atleast on this side of the forum.

[SSJKarma]

nantuko: i didn't say that buu wasn't what you told !

i was just saying you were wrong on one point and that's when you said FAT BUU wasn't alive at the end of DBZ ! i was just saying you were wrong and that UBUU and FAT BUU were there at the same time because fat buu was still there !

[Nantuko Joe]

I never said that fat buu WAS NOT alive at the end of DBZ. Find the post where I said that

[MasterX05]

nantuko i have heard something about goku bieng turned back into a little kid. Do u know anything about this? ???

Oh and another thing u said goku wished back kid buu's good half, i thought their was no good he was said to be pure evil.
Because he ate fat buu but goku. and vegeta resueced them and so at the end, after kid buu was killed the fat buu went off to live with hercule. So how could there be anygood in kid buu?

[Nexusgod]

I saw the end of dbz. Goku kicked buus ass. buu is dead. Onslaught could kill buu with As huge a blast as gokus spirit bomb![img:post_uid8]http://www.gamegen.com/fightgen/characters/akuma-c-combo.gif[/img:post_uid8]

[MasterX05]

uh hu now yall want akuma :D

[SSJKarma]

first: yes goku was wished to be a kid again ! that was a mistake from one of the old enemy of goku who wished him to be little again so he could kick his ass right now and shenron thought it was the wish so he granted it ! that was in GT not in DBZ ! so not related in here !

second: good one ! i'll answer it for you... UBUU isn't bad but has the power of KID BUU in him ! that's why he enrage so easily in a fight !
example: was losing to goku then suddently came out of nowhere he knew how to fight and countered goku blow for blow ! he was so enraged that he didn't even knew what he was doing !

he has the power of KID BUU but he doesn't have the mind of it !

[dexterslab69]

This might be stupid but.........who is buu? ??? sorry for asking :(

[Nantuko Joe]

nantuko i have heard something about goku bieng turned back into a little kid. Do u know anything about this?

It never really happened. This event took place in Dragonball GT. But since GT never happened, is not official, and doesn't count in debates, just forget about it :D

Oh and another thing u said goku wished back kid buu's good half, i thought their was no good he was said to be pure evil.
Because he ate fat buu but goku. and vegeta resueced them and so at the end, after kid buu was killed the fat buu went off to live with hercule. So how could there be anygood in kid buu?

There could still be good in him. Listen to this comparison:

In order for the Namek known as Kame-sama to become god of the Earth, he had to separate himself into two halves: one good half and one evil half. The good half became known as Kame-sama. The evil half became known as Piccolo Diamoa. When Piccolo Diamoa died, he gave birth to the Piccolo we all know and love. This Piccolo was supposed to be evil, but he soon learned goodness from hanging out with Goku and Gohan.

So you see, good can indeed come out of pure evil. That is how Kid Buu's good survived in the form of Ubuu

I saw the end of dbz. Goku kicked buus ass. buu is dead. Onslaught could kill buu with As huge a blast as gokus spirit bomb!

Don't make unsupported accusations. Just because a blast is THE SIZE as a Genki Dama, doesn't mean it has as much POWER as a Genki Dama.

second: good one ! i'll answer it for you... UBUU isn't bad but has the power of KID BUU in him ! that's why he enrage so easily in a fight !
example: was losing to goku then suddently came out of nowhere he knew how to fight and countered goku blow for blow ! he was so enraged that he didn't even knew what he was doing !

he has the power of KID BUU but he doesn't have the mind of it !

Read my post above :D

This might be stupid but.........who is buu? sorry for asking

[color=green]Let me explain it to you:

Millions of years ago, an evil wizard named Bibidi created a creature out of pure evil magic. This creature was called Buu, or Ma-jinn Buu (Ma-jinn is the race of creatures Bibidi is from).

Note--the form that Buu was created in is known in DBZ as Kid Buu

Buu then went on a rampage, killing the North, West, and South Kaioshins. The only gods that remained were the East Kaioshin (the Supreme Kai) and the Dai Kaioshin (you don't know him). The Dai Kaioshin was the god of all gods, and he was pure good, and was very fat. The Dai Kaioshin tried to fight Buu, but failed and was absorbed. However, because the Dai Kaioshin was good and fat, Buu took on his appearance. Not only did he become fat, but he became the mindless creature that we know in DBZ that was hatched from the egg.

East Kaioshin then tricked Bibidi into sealing Buu into a magic egg-shaped pod. Once Buu was sealed away, East Kaioshin killed Bibidi, and thought that Buu would never escape.

However, a few million years later, Bibidi's son, Babidi, frees Buu again, and they eventually have to stop him.

Take a look at the pink guy in my avatar and signature. THat is one of Ma-jinn Buu's forms</span>

[SSJKarma]

nantuko:
it is exactly what i am annoyed by from you !
you always ignore people's post and then answer something that had been already answered !

first: the boy named UBUU HAS parents who he was born from ! HUMAN parents ! how could he be the exact same as KID BUU ? he is a simple boy, but he innherited the powers of KID BUU, he didn't get any of the other things in KID BUU except for his powers ! UBUU was raised by his parents as a POOR boy and he really LOVES his parents and that's why he entered in the tournament !

GOKU didn't even know he was until he met him in the tournament !

second:
Piccolo IS evil ! but he got a little change from the start where he needed to go WITH goku to fight raditz. afterwards he was still evil but he needed gohan to train so he can help them fight the other saiyen ! until he FUSED with kami, he was always an EVIL person !

it's not because someone do something for another that he should be considered GOOD ! look at vegeta, he saved goku how many times ? is he a GOOD guy because of that ? no, he was always evil until the end of DBZ !

[princevegetam]

that is totally fckin not true(the part about vegeta being evil and the part about piccolo being evil before fusing with kami).

you totally misunderstood vegeta and piccolo. at the end of dbz vegeta was GOOD! if he was evil, then why did he sacrifise himself to kill majin buu? why did he marry bulma and had trunks?
and if piccolo was evil then why did he save gohan with his life when nappa shot that beam? why did he shed tears when he was talking to gohan during his last few minutes of living?

[SSJKarma]

do a GOOD being KILL without even THINK about the consequences ?
i think not !

i never said they were ALL EVIL AND THEY WOULD ALWAYS BE !
i said they were evil even thou they had donw GOOD things !
wouldn't you do the same if your life was at stake ?
come on, they are evil but they just live their live !

VEGETA would kill any human that bothers him even if he had bulma,trunks or anyone else !
it's just that now he lives on EARTH and now has a family to run !

by definition an EVIL person isn't someone who do BLOODBATH every 2 seconds you know !
there is more than 1 way to be EVIL and still live a life !

that was my point !

[Nantuko Joe]

Bah...I'm tired of quoting.

Karma, you're wrong about Piccolo. Up until the fight with Nappa and Vegeta, Piccolo was pure evil. However, training with Gohan had made him soft, and had begun to transform him. By the time he needed to re-fuse with Kami, his heart had TRANSFORMED from PURE EVIL to GOOD!

And Vegeta was only PURE EVIL at one point in DBZ: when he transformed into SSJ for the first time, because one's heart needs to be either pure good or pure evil to do it the first time. After that, good and evil were in equal portions in his body, and that is why Babidi couldn't take full control of Vegeta. Babidi can only control the evil in one's heart. But since there was an equal amount of good in Vegeta's heart, he couldn't take full control.

But when Vegeta sacrificed himself to try and kill Buu, his heart had become PURE GOOD, he realized that it was his job to do what Goku had done before and sacrifice his own life to save the lives of the rest of the world. The only reason he went to hell was because of the deeds he committed when he was evil.

[princevegetam]

But when Vegeta sacrificed himself to try and kill Buu, his heart had become PURE GOOD, he realized that it was his job to do what Goku had done before and sacrifice his own life to save the lives of the rest of the world. The only reason he went to hell was because of the deeds he committed when he was evil
*wipes tears from eyes and sniffs*

so true...

i can remember myself crying watching that episode. and that episode when frieza first killed vegeta. it was so sad....

[MasterX05]

LMAO :laugh: :0 cant breath

[SSJKarma]

do you have really understood what i said ?

i never said he was PURE EVIL ! i said that there was more than one way to be EVIL !
and second, remember how goku turn on gohan after getting into SSJ ? then if you have ever notice ! in SSJ you are not GOOD as your heart is filled with hatred and violence ! once in SSJ the person needs to try and stay himself or he would go out and kill the first thing in front of him !

GOHAN in the room of spirit and time had very much trouble keeping his anger for himself ! he was ready to blow up on goku ! then goku calmed him down !

goku had that same feeling about freeza when he became super for the first time ! he was about to explode and wanted freeza to be dead. when he YELLED at gohan for getting out of there, i knew he wasn't so pure ! that is why one SSJ cannot do a genki dama !

vegeta was EVIL at that time and he would have been entirely untder babidi's control... but vegeta was so strong that he succeeded to stay himself ! and no, even if he was on his own, he was still fighting as you remember babidi was giving him order and he had way to much of a headache while fighting that control ! then he ejected babidi from his mind, but kept the power for himself !

[Gotenks13]

Look at what this has turned into. This would happen at the former Senshukentaikai Forum...I really think that Kid Buu would win because of the massive amount of power and speed he has...not to mention that huge variety of techniques.

About this strayed debate, if they were so evil when in the SSJ form, they would have killed everyone in sight, but they didn't. That is because they can control it. If they couldn't they would be in the Oozaru form on the first level. They had plenty of control in this form. How could Goku defeat Buu with a Genki Dama in SSJ3 without being pure good. Remember, the person has to be pure, and in most cases, they are pure good. I'm pretty sure that they have to remain pure in the form. Unless, after their body and mind got used to it and it didn't matter anymore.

[Nantuko Joe]

GOHAN in the room of spirit and time had very much trouble keeping his anger for himself ! he was ready to blow up on goku ! then goku calmed him down !

The reason Goku had to calm down Gohan was because Gohan's ki was stronger than his body can handle (read my post in XMvsDBZ about ki/strength). If Gohan didn't calm down and control himself, he would have killed himself.

goku had that same feeling about freeza when he became super for the first time ! he was about to explode and wanted freeza to be dead. when he YELLED at gohan for getting out of there

He wanted Gohan to get out of there because he wanted Gohan Piccolo and Buruma to be on the spaceship going home in case Furiza tried to so something tricky or blow up the planet. It was not because he was trying to control the evil

vegeta was EVIL at that time and he would have been entirely untder babidi's control... but vegeta was so strong that he succeeded to stay himself ! and no, even if he was on his own, he was still fighting as you remember babidi was giving him order and he had way to much of a headache while fighting that control ! then he ejected babidi from his mind, but kept the power for himself !

No, Vegeta's heart had reached a state where good and evil were equal, and thus Babidi was unable to take full control. Vegeta made Babidi THINK he had full control, but ever since the very moment Vegeta "allowed" himself to be controlled, he was in control himself. Had Vegeta been 100% evil, Babidi would have been able to fully take control

i never said he was PURE EVIL ! i said that there was more than one way to be EVIL !
and second, remember how goku turn on gohan after getting into SSJ ? then if you have ever notice ! in SSJ you are not GOOD as your heart is filled with hatred and violence ! once in SSJ the person needs to try and stay himself or he would go out and kill the first thing in front of him !

Yes it is true that in SSJ their heart is pure evil. However, because Goku was so overwhelmingly good, the evil in his heart TRANSFORMED into good. There is a difference between ACTING good and actually BEING good. Acting good (in DBZ) means taht you have an evil heart, but simply USE it for good. But actually BEING good is taking the evil and actually TRANSFORMING it from evil to good. That's what Goku and the rest of them did when they went SSJ. It's just that because of Vegeta's evil nature, when he was controlled, he was half-good, half-evil.

[black]

When you say "evil buu", do you mean the thin, grey buu that fat buu expelled from himself? Evil buu would lose definately, but Kid buu....kid buu would prolly win
sorry but evil buu devored fat buu and became super buu

[MasterX05]

umm no he meant when good buu blew all the steam out of him. Meaning he expelled the evil buu.

[SSJKarma]

now i know that you're gonna say something about this and i know you're gonna say something has:"it wasn't in the manga !" but i'll say it anyway...

yes they can control their SSJ form, but their anger is very uprising their heart isn't pure anymore, they fight to stay themself. why ?

reason: when goku tranformed for the first time. MASTER ROSHI sensed the energy and said that if goku wasn't able to control that energy, he wouldn't be himself anymore ! that's exactly what he has done. he was so angered that while fighting freeza he let him go into his 100% power form. mistake he made has freeza was his equal by then. but goku's anger made him SSJ form last forever !

second example...
when gohan got to SSJ2, he did the very same mistake has GOKU did with freeza, and he lost his father cause of that ! and piccolo said it himself... HIS ANGER OVERRIDE HIS JUDGEMENT !

even thou you'll say that it has nothing to do with DBZ... krillin even said it to goku while fighting SUPER 13, QUOTE:"you cannot do a genki dama with an UNCLEAR heart" UNQUOTE he said this while he was seeing goku get to SSJ when doing the genki dama ! the genki dama was very unstable when he got there, but goku somehow absorbed the energy and used it in a single punch !

now, i doubt he could have made a GENKI DAMA has an SSJ3.

[Nantuko Joe]

sorry but evil buu devored fat buu and became super buu

Actually, he became Ma-jin Buu. He didn't become Super Buu until he absorbed Gohan.

reason: when goku tranformed for the first time. MASTER ROSHI sensed the energy and said that if goku wasn't able to control that energy, he wouldn't be himself anymore ! that's exactly what he has done. he was so angered that while fighting freeza he let him go into his 100% power form. mistake he made has freeza was his equal by then. but goku's anger made him SSJ form last forever !


Yes, it was the anger that allowed him to go SSJ in the first place, but after he went SSJ for the first time, he was able to control it with ease, he didn't have to fight the evil. And he could not stay in SSJ forever, it takes an extreme amount of strength and training to stay inside SSJ form

second example...
when gohan got to SSJ2, he did the very same mistake has GOKU did with freeza, and he lost his father cause of that ! and piccolo said it himself... HIS ANGER OVERRIDE HIS JUDGEMENT !

Like when GOku went SSJ for the 1st time, Gohan's transformation was out of anger. However, he was able to control it without problem and without evil.

even thou you'll say that it has nothing to do with DBZ... krillin even said it to goku while fighting SUPER 13, QUOTE:"you cannot do a genki dama with an UNCLEAR heart" UNQUOTE he said this while he was seeing goku get to SSJ when doing the genki dama ! the genki dama was very unstable when he got there, but goku somehow absorbed the energy and used it in a single punch !

That entire event was bullpoop, since it never happened. I could argue for three pages about how that never could have happened (the actual event), but I won't



This is the conclusion: The first time someone goes SSJ or SSJ2, they need to be at both great power and great emotional stress/anger. However, after that, they can do it with ease. Note: Goku went SSJ for the 1st time, he had a lot of anger. Then, when Furiza was cut in pieces, Goku returned to normal, then powered up easily back to SSj to kill him. On earth, and ever since then, he has been able to go SSJ with extreme ease.

Same as Gohan. He went SSJ2 out of anger, but every time after then, he did it with extreme ease (the "Golden Haired Fighter, vs. Dabura, vs. Buu, etc). They never have to fight to stay themselves AT ANY POINT during the transformation