Lefty has had it! - Lefty laying the smackdown [Archive]

leftyfb

10-27-2002, 08:17 AM

yup, you read it. Im and down right sick and tired or seeing all these post that are stupid, useless, duplicate, derogative(dissing), "######", and that are off topic, and way too many voting posts. Especially polls about the same damn things.

It seems TMyApp and myself are the only ones trying to clean up this forum and for me personally, I am moving/deleting/closing all the same things over and over again and i'm tired of it.

With that said. Any of the above memtioned post will from this point forward deleted. Any posts, whether they are entire topics or reply's. And if I see the same post again by the same person, your account will be terminated and you will be banned. I will be closing all the topics now that I think fit some of these descriptions only to give you people an understanding of what I mean.

I will not be monitoring the NON-XvsSF Related forum AS MUCH. But I will visit there occasionally to clean up posts that I don't think have any place on this or even any forum for that matter.

Remember people, this forum is here for the game. It is only out of generousity that we have made the NON-XvsSF Related section to allow random and/or slightly off topic posts to make this more of a community. But it getting way out of hand.

Also remember that there kids reading these posts and i'm also sick of seeing all the crude language thrown around. These posts will also be deleted.

Let the games begin!

P.S. Just thought of another post I think is useless. "I am back" Nobody cares! These will also be deleted.

Edited By leftyfb on Oct. 27 2002 at 13:56

Kingryu1

10-27-2002, 08:22 AM

well atleast someone is taking care of it. it seems all the other mods ar't doing a single thing. apart from 2kwarrior

SuperSonicX

10-27-2002, 08:36 AM

Yeah we need more active mods around here..

princevegetam

10-27-2002, 09:10 AM

P.S. Just thought of another post I think is useless. "I am back" Nobody cares! These will also be deleted.
LMAO!!!

mastaq

10-27-2002, 10:18 AM

Finally justice is being served... :buttrock:

Additude_Chick

10-27-2002, 10:42 AM

dryyyyy
hehe i knoe dis post was made for me( :angry: )i'll stop lefty for TMyApp's sake!lol :shocked:

coolplayer2K2

10-27-2002, 10:55 AM

im so depressed with all this #### topics goin on here y dont we just make a spam board for all the ######s who wanna spam their #### off got im so flipin tierd of all this ###### #### goin around me too i HAD IT WITH THIS poopY ######S MAKE A SPAM OR COMPLAINING BOARD!!!

Edited By leftyfb on Oct. 27 2002 at 13:58

Additude_Chick

10-27-2002, 10:58 AM

and the "complaining" board would be for ppl like u

and maybe me :p

Edited By leftyfb on Oct. 27 2002 at 13:59

SolidSnake76

10-27-2002, 11:03 AM

i know how u feel lefty. the maturity here is low. and you have to talk to them about their posting every day and they gonna get fresh. there are times i want to be a mod.

Nantuko Joe

10-27-2002, 11:29 AM

I'm ALWAYS on the board. If you give me admin status EVEN JUST IN THE GENERAL SECTION, I can prolly get rid of 40% of all the topics in there, mostly created by dumb #####

TMyApp

10-27-2002, 11:35 AM

all mighty lefty... we bow down before thy power !! bring justice and pointless bannin' to all those who (might) deserver it !! :biggrin:

... on a totally unrelated note... i'm phazin' out the "warnings" on here and the game chat... from now on... "ban" is both the 1st, and the last warning to all those who break the rules :biggrin:

DanYankees

10-27-2002, 11:43 AM

ALL HAIL LEFTYFB AND TMYAPP! Thanks for finally cleaning this place up...I'm glad there will be more ban-ings to bring justice to the #####!

Tidus2K2

10-27-2002, 11:51 AM

NIce, thats the way mods should be around here. Also my guess is not ban them forever. Ban them for like 2 months and they'll get the picture that they are not wantd. But i'm with banning forever.

TMyApp

10-27-2002, 12:16 PM

well... there is no "ban for X months" button/feature (as far as i know... *cough* ) ... so.. i'd have to remmemba' to unban someone after X amount of time passes... which i won't... sooo... :biggrin:

Nantuko Joe

10-27-2002, 12:21 PM

This is what I do on my forum:

If it comes to banishment, I'll do a username ban. Then they'll have to register under a new username. If they are to get banned again, THEN I'll do an IP ban, and that is forever.

And TMy/Lefty/whoever, may I make a suggestion?

I strongly suggest that you guys prune your member list. There are like a thousand ppl in your members list with either 1 or no posts at all. And when I'm trying to search for a particular member or something, this gets VERY irritating to see page after page of nobodys with ZERO posts to their name. Pruning the members list will not only get rid of the riff-raff, but also let the site run a little more smoothely.

just a suggestion, though...

10-27-2002, 12:31 PM

Kingryu1: Lol... that's not really true.

I "try" to poke my head in around from time to time... but I post more then moderate now a days... :(

Just compare my activity from now to when I was here in the summer (June-Aug. 2002). I'll try to help with cleaning up the forum, but to do that you have to be here (and READ all the topics, not skim over) every single day...

princevegetam

10-27-2002, 02:18 PM

I'm ALWAYS on the board. If you give me admin status EVEN JUST IN THE GENERAL SECTION, I can prolly get rid of 40% of all the topics in there, mostly created by dumb #####
*cough*mod wannabe*cough*

Nantuko Joe

10-27-2002, 02:29 PM

Hell yeah. You're telling me that you wouldnt want to get rid of the spam and the ##### on this forum?

princevegetam

10-27-2002, 02:32 PM

lol, nice way of wording it. *claps*

Dan Hibiki

10-27-2002, 02:49 PM

Being the mod of a popular forum is not a pleasant thing.

<span style='font-size:8pt;line-height:100%'>Has a nightmarish episode of recalling Senshukentaikai and shivers uncontrollably.</span>

mastaq

10-27-2002, 03:07 PM

I know what you mean Dan. When I was a mod there it was hell. People think being a mod is all fun and games.. If you have the power and abuse it then people will leave the forum.. Then ultimatly what power do you really have? :buttrock:

Dan Hibiki

10-27-2002, 03:09 PM

I didn't even abuse it and people started an uprising on me. I don't think it too much to say, "No porno!" as a rule, but nooooo...

princevegetam

10-27-2002, 03:11 PM

fun and games? it's all about the power. the power to destroy and ban. the power to lock and access to IPs, lol

DanYankees

10-27-2002, 03:29 PM

yes dan...those "hot girl" threads were getting a little of hand over there at senshuk.

I'm supporting vegetam on this...it IS all about the power. What's better than banning and destroying, eh?

mastaq

10-27-2002, 03:29 PM

Yes, its all about the power... Power corrupts so many... :shocked:

nosoul4evr

10-27-2002, 03:35 PM

Good work on keeping the forum tidy. :)

Is it possible to move the "Non-Related" Section of the forum above the "XvSF Related" section of the forum.

Simply because people that just come to post "random" stuff....are usualy new...or to lazy to scroll down to the approprate section of the forum......(just something I noticed about user activies.)

Well anyways....keep up the good work. :buttrock:

SBYRD5

10-27-2002, 03:46 PM

Very interesting.

sk8erfox805

10-27-2002, 06:08 PM

finally all the new-bies are gonna get banned.. heeh tomorrow im gonna check the list of the ppl that got banned and im gonna see like 15 names hahaah i bet :D

nosoul4evr

10-28-2002, 05:38 AM

I didnt find modorating Senshuk all that hard.
I banned a couple of people...and those that remained in the forum appreciated it.

The monotinous task of reading EVERY post sucks though.
you often feel like you cant do it enough....but ya just cant stand going through the paces either.

And some days you just wish to hell everyone would get their act together and use the forums properly....just so you dont have to modorate.

Yes there is alot of "fame" that comes with being an Admin/Mod. But there is alot of responsibility as well. You have an entire community hanging on your every move and word. Ready to critisize your every action and scrutinize your every sentence.

Probably the most difficult part of being a Mod is knowing when to draw the line, "be a prick"...and punish/bann somebody for constant infractions of the forum rules.

No Admin or Mod "wants" to look like a hard ass. But lets face it some people are REALY stupid.

Nantuko Joe

10-28-2002, 05:42 AM

Vegetam and Yankees, it's not all about the power. You can't simply be a ruthless dictator with mod powers, no sir-ee. You still have to be your good-old self, but with a little more responsibility. For example, you can't just go around banning ppl and deleting topics that you don't like. I already had a talk with Lefty on AIM yesterday, and he told me how he wants the forum to be, and I can now understand his reasoning.

You see, the stupid new-bies that post here are the majority of the ppl that play the game. The list of active vets on this forum is growing very thin. Therefore, if we ban the stupid new-bies like Juggernaut and stjames and ajtimbs that piss us off, they're not going to come back. Now, I know that may be a good thing, but if we do that to all the stupid new-bies, the forum will be pretty much barren except for the 20-30 ppl that post here regularly and without spam. We'll lose much of our fan following.

Lefty said that he's in the forums every day, moderating and such, deleting/locking topics as he sees fit. I offered him some suggestions and opinions, and he said he'll think on them. However, the reason none of us (even the vets) have mod powers is because TMy doesn't trust any of us with mod powers, he openly said that. And if we can simply ignore these new-bies and their topics rather than flame them incessantly (I know, it will be hard for me to do too), then we can show TMy that we're more responsible than he thought, and may think again about giving someone else mod powers. And if you can't keep your mouth shut and ignore them, then don't FLAME them, try and use reason (like I'm trying to do with ajtimbs). TRY (and this is a big TRY) to reason with them.

It's going to be tough on all you guys as well as me, but what needs to be done, needs to be done

SBYRD5

10-28-2002, 11:23 AM

I guess the community is getting over crowded I suppose such tactics are needed now,but perhaps if we could just get all the n e w b i e s in the same area,and have a very strict talk with them things could change...maybe.

Like a rule of this kind=

You may only make one topic each week at maxium.

Any different subjects that you find interesting should be PM'ed in that active week.

------------------------------------------------------------

That could even be understood by a new person.

I think the reason ##### are so annoying is because there ignorance of the area around them often gives them the influence to act a fool.

You must understand.The goal of an ingorant new person is to fit in,and to become superior in the same day.Even though you know there goal welcome that person heartily,and with respect that would reduce the number of Flaming hits per week.

Also, advice that person not to make topics their first weeks in this community.Instead, instruct them to read the topics first,and to give the best senseable reply to there ability.Tell them to edit incorrect spelling,and grammar in posting tell the day they have it at a perfection.

Also if your will to help a noob starts to fade advice that person to another vet.This system could be the solution to this noob problem.The program will be called "Vet Appretiance Training"=V.A.T.

Actually ignore my post I just remebered that I'm a noob. ???

princevegetam

10-28-2002, 12:26 PM

Panda_Man

10-28-2002, 04:13 PM

lefty i may be cought doin this... if i am plz gimme and others a warning before banning them... :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock: :buttrock:

i donnu why i put so many rockin dudes

PARADISE-X

10-28-2002, 04:24 PM

Well,I dont know what to say...good job on making the forum safer for the members ???

Gotenks13

10-28-2002, 06:57 PM

Here's an idea.

Some people join forums, and don't read the rules. Maybe there's a way to make the first (and I mean first) topic they open is the rules. Other than that:

Offense 1: Tell them to read or re-read the rules. Maybe they missed something... ???

Offense 2: Give them a warning. A sturn warning.

Offense 3: Ban them for 2-4 weeks (depending on what they did.)

Offense 4: IP ban. Ban forever!!! :buttrock:

Additude_Chick

10-28-2002, 10:34 PM

TMyApp banning is not nice u knoe :( u can make ppl cry and go depressed and then they'll become gay and it's ur fault

sk8erfox805

10-29-2002, 12:03 AM

how bout the ppl that have a start under their name cant make any topics in the all forum??

Nantuko Joe

10-29-2002, 05:23 AM

uhh.. it was a joke dude

What was a joke?

TMy, Lefty, I have a set of rules on Mallarky.net that sounds very reasonable and could definately be used here, if you mods allowed it. If you want me to post them, just say so or IM me

And here are the only reasons I can see to explain nOObish behavior:
1.) They're too young to be playing the game/posting in this type of environment, and we consider them ignorant
Examples: stjames, ajtimbs

2.) They want to be considered part of this forum socially, but think that to do so, they need to be Advanced Members, and therefore increase their post count the wrong way: by spamming.
Examples: Juggernaut, Bunmi

3.) They're actually assholes in real life, and for some reason think they're better than everyone else on the forum
Examples: Most of the rest of the nOOb population

coolplayer2K2

10-29-2002, 06:28 AM

well nakatoe joe age doesnt matter im only 9 and a half and i dont spam.this guy ajtimbs wanted a pokemon banner.THIS HAS NOTHIN TO DO WITH STUPID BABYISH POKEMON GO TO

skate919

10-29-2002, 07:39 AM

I'm ALWAYS on the board. If you give me admin status EVEN JUST IN THE GENERAL SECTION, I can prolly get rid of 40% of all the topics in there, mostly created by dumb #####
Yeah. Go Joe!

Warmor

10-29-2002, 02:16 PM

If I had the power, I could do alot more around here =-/

10-29-2002, 02:26 PM

I don't know how this thread got off topic... but it is NOT a thread to promote TMyApp getting more mods. If anyone even cared to read the title, and possibly the actual message that followed after it, it says NOTHING discussing hiring new mods. In fact, it's just this kind of behavior it's preaching against.

This whole concept of "please TMy, add more mods", or even "please, give me mod powers. I'll do a good job", has been tried and refuted time and again (for dam good reasons too). TMyApp has made it plenty clear in the past and future... that he doesn't just hand out modships at anyone who looks like they might be good at it.

If you want to debate about this modship thing... here's a VERY lenghty topic with many good arguments/refrences on each side... (http://nferno666.sytes.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=6366).

There may have been another one going about the same time.. but I'm too lazy/impatient too look it up... :biggrin:

..anyways, put your posts about this sort of subject in your own topics (which won't last long @ all since TMyApp, leftyfb, and myself to some degree... are here at most the time).

TMyApp

10-29-2002, 06:52 PM

2000warrior/warmor: well said :biggrin: ... and if u want "more power" ... email me... :biggrin:

Nantuko Joe: it is not JUST about trust... everyone who is a mod did SOMETHING IMPROTANT/BIG for the community (they didn't become mods because of their posts on the forum)...

and to all those who say i should send a "warning" 1st... well.. see.. the thing with that is:

1: it takes the same amount of time to send a msg as it does to ban someone

2: once a warning is sent.. i have to follow up on it to make sure the person not only recieved it (people love to give out fake email addresses when they sign up... and they DONT' seem to read the pm's that are sent to them) but that they FOLLOW the warning/rules.. and ... well... common... are people who break the rules really worth ALL that ?? :biggrin:

3: even if someone is banned... to get un-banned, all they have to do is email me, and wait a few days/weeks until i get to their email...

there u have it.... :biggrin:

princevegetam

10-29-2002, 07:05 PM

tmyapp has just owned joo all!!!

KidKrazyShit

10-29-2002, 07:12 PM

very well put tmy.

I too think the problem will not be solved by handing out more modship. That may actually increase the problem. I agree with Warmor. If we give our current mods more power(banning powers I might add) this place wouldn't have so many "vote here" "this thing vs. this stuff" "whos the best..blah, blah, blah" topics.

I believe tmy and lefty are the only ones with banning powers. Neither of them have the time to sit around and moderate all day. 2kwarrior and Warmor do, unfortunately neither of them have the full power to take control of major situations. Giving them the admin-like powers would do the job, in my opinion anyway.

tmy:You said everyone that was choosen for modship did "SOMETHING IMPROTANT/BIG for the community"

this is something that has been scratching at my curiosity(and little does that) Why are Zing, Quass and Lordcyris mods?
Whatever your answer is, why are they still mods if they do not moderate. I think Zing/Quass are because they give hosting from VGM(I think) but what about Lordcyris?

sk8erfox805

10-29-2002, 07:21 PM

yeah i dont think quass, zing or lordcyris have time to see this forum i think u should make some changes.. tmy

Warmor

10-29-2002, 10:35 PM

well... common... are people who break the rules really worth ALL that ?? :biggrin:
Hehehehe :buttrock:

princevegetam

10-30-2002, 12:50 PM

zing and quass helped expand this big community, but i don't really know much about that lordcyris guy

iTALY

10-30-2002, 01:10 PM

i havent seen lordcyris post in a while, i think u should pic like 1 or 2 new mods not for the forum but for the game cuz u should see all the bitchin goin on in there one guy starts bitchin then another then someonelse and then everyone starts

SBYRD5

10-30-2002, 06:43 PM

coolplayer2K2

10-31-2002, 04:30 AM

yo i havnt seen dat lordgrobycs guy i seen him on the game everytime i meet him i always get banned lol true but i havnt seen him in the forum for long time and in game for bout a month or so.i think well between this guys should be new mods

nakato joe,dan hibiki,and nosoul4eva they really do solve the problems that go around this game

sk8erfox805

10-31-2002, 04:04 PM

dont forget karma :biggrin: and i dont kno about natuko ...

KidKrazyShit

10-31-2002, 08:01 PM

Is anyone even listening to tmy?

He has already said adding more mods will not solve the problem...and is not an option. So why are you saying ppl that you think would be good mods?

machine1

11-01-2002, 02:27 PM

Is anyone even listening to tmy?

He has already said adding more mods will not solve the problem...and is not an option. So why are you saying ppl that you think would be good mods?
u are right kks more mods. wont matter its up to the people to control themselves

Ludacris

11-01-2002, 03:06 PM

4 mods are usually enough to handle a forum so we have like what.......5 mods(if we don't count Tmy App and Leftyfb) so it's enough......they're doing their thang and it's cool.......

(R)Dragon(R)

11-02-2002, 10:01 AM

it's gonna get boring with all the ###### posting and stuff like that. For example my friend QUIET_KILLER is posting like he's a ###### and he's gonna be a super advanced member. Thats not good. lol j/k Quiet. :shocked:

akuma_forever

11-02-2002, 11:04 AM

harsh,but its for the best.....

Nantuko Joe

11-02-2002, 02:33 PM

u are right kks more mods. wont matter its up to the people to control themselves

Yeah, and you can see how well THAT is working nowadays...

it's gonna get boring with all the ###### posting and stuff like that. For example my friend QUIET_KILLER is posting like he's a ###### and he's gonna be a super advanced member. Thats not good. lol j/k Quiet.

I am still trying to figure out

Why does Quiet Killer

Type like this?

He types just like Weezer

On the other forums

It's very odd

you gotta ask him

about this.

No offense, but I disagree with TMy. If we had some more mods around here that were on the forum constantly and are able to handle this problem, the problem would be nonexistant. I know that TMy is too overwhelmed with working on the game to help out, and 2000warrior isn't here that much. But what about ZIng? Quass? Lordcyris? The only mod that really moderates this site is leftyfb. If we had more ppl around here to moderate, it will be a better place for us to post in

princevegetam

11-02-2002, 02:39 PM

okay, i think what everyone means is:

this forum doesn't need too many mods, it just needs more mods that are active

Nantuko Joe

11-02-2002, 03:25 PM

True. If ZIng and Quass and Lordcyris were ACTUALLY HERE to moderate this forum, then I would have no problem with this. But Lordcyris is MIA, and Zing and Quass are busy with their precious VGM (bah), and that only leaves Lefty with all the work

skate919

11-02-2002, 03:43 PM

I believe that rules should be much more strict than they are right now. People get away with too many stupid things that would not be allowed in other forums. Make a 3 strike rule, or a minor - major offense scale, or something. Adding more mods would be good, but you would have to make sure that they can be trusted. Nosoul, Nantuko, KKS, and others would be good choices in my opinion, but it is not up to me.

Squall87

11-02-2002, 04:09 PM

...I only post in places where I feel that I won't be flamed. O_o! So don't delete me due to post count.

Personally, this has become a spam hole, I see too many topics about Character Votes, and who could kick who's butt in a deathmatch. And the flaming, ye god, the flaming is way too much. Hopefully you'll fix that so I'll post more and not feel like I'll be flamed to the ground for just giving my opponion.

~Squall

TMyApp

11-03-2002, 11:48 AM

.. the problem is (and always has been) with the users themselves...

since the average age of the XvsSF player is around 12, 90% of the people who post on the forum flame/spam...

unless the users change their ways... the only other "solution" is to ban 90% of the active forum members we have now.. which would basically leave us with myself, and the rest of the mods using this board for our own personal "chat" :biggrin:

sk8erfox805

11-03-2002, 12:19 PM

hehehehe.. thats good.. :biggrin: im not 12

Nantuko Joe

11-03-2002, 05:56 PM

First off, you don't know for a fact that the average age of the ppl here is 12 years old. The majority of us are above the age of 15, and some of us are in our low 20s. If the average age of ppl here was 12, then there would be some 5-8 year olds using this forum. I myself didn't learn to type or use the internet until 5th grade, and THAT's about the age 12 group.

I'd have to say that the average age of ppl here is around 15 or 16. That's high-school freshman/sophomore level kids. If kids at that level of maturity can't control their spamming and flaming, then the world is coming to an end.

And you can't leave it up to the users to change their ways. Unless you give them a stricter set of rules or more ppl to carry out and enforce the current rules, the ppl here aren't going to change their ways just for the hell of it. You gotta issue an ultimatum or something

Roll

11-03-2002, 06:30 PM

An ultimatum? Wow... you sure know your vocabulary, Nantuko. But, tell me, how will that help? It'll only get people who break it penalized (and the only penalty I know of is banning...). If we're trying to change behavior, we can't just do that. Sure being strict is a good way to stop things just for a while. Although, think of all the new people who'll just come in without reading the rules. There is no way to make them read it, and there is certainly no way we can stop them from making posts, as, like everyone else, they have their own free will. We just have to be patient, and allow Lefty's statement to come to life.

11-03-2002, 06:38 PM

Nantuko Joe... quit taking everything so litteral. TMyApp is trying to keep himself from going insane and exploding on all you (like leftyfb did just recently) by "attempting" to stay in good humor. It's posts like the one above (and NOT your common n00bish posting) that tend to through him over the edge.

First... saying that the average age level is around 12 is just a medaphor for what he sees as the average maturity level in most of the current posts/topics. You arguing against that just makes it look like you're trying to find anything/everything to argue about.

Second... you've made it obviously clear in your previous posts that that you want more mods to take care of this rising problems in the forum (or as leftyfb put it, "pandimonioum"). I'm wondering why you're saying

I'd have to say that the average age of ppl here is around 15 or 16. If kids at that level of maturity can't control their spamming and flaming, then the world is coming to an end.

Now, according to that, you're saying that 15-16 year olds, the "majority" of the people at this forum, are mature, and in that case, would allude to the fact that there is no problem at all. Which you've clearly said is not the case...

So in that instance, there are only 2 conclusions that you can arrive at:

1. The maturity level of these 15-16 year olds is NOT what you say it is, and they are the ones causing all these crappy posts.

2. They arn't 15-16 year olds, and are closer to the age of 12. And that's the reason they're so immature.

And last point... leftyfb and TMyApp ARE taking the initiative to put an end to this, and get these lazy mods (like me) up off our asses and "get to work". Don't worry... you're really overexagerating the situation and what must be done to stop it... All will be solved.. in time.

Nantuko Joe

11-03-2002, 06:52 PM

It'll only get people who break it penalized (and the only penalty I know of is banning...)

No, they can also do what drove physicals_r_scary over the edge: reset his post count. The majority of the nOOb population on this forum spam only to get their post count up. If they break the rules and continue to spam, their post count will get lowered or reset, and they'll either start over again or get the picture and stop spamming

Now, according to that, you're saying that 15-16 year olds, the "majority" of the people at this forum, are mature, and in that case, would allude to the fact that there is no problem at all. Which you've clearly said is not the case...

So in that instance, there are only 2 conclusions that you can arrive at:

1. The maturity level of these 15-16 year olds is NOT what you say it is, and they are the ones causing all these crappy posts.

2. They arn't 15-16 year olds, and are closer to the age of 12. And that's the reason they're so immature

The majority of the members of this forum aren't the problem. Most of the ppl who are here are fine, but it's prolly (i'm gonna guess) about 1/4 or 1/5 of the total members here that are the violators of the rules and are massive spammers/nOObish behavior. It's kind of like that saying "punish everyone for the behavior of A PRECIOUS FEW". The "Precious Few" in this case are the kids that are under the age of 15/16 (age-wise, not maturity-wise). People like ajtimbs, Juggernaut, and stjames are only around the age of 12, and they're the three biggest spammers in here (the main ppl I'm talking about). But I AM correct in saying that the majority of ALL users of this forum are older, and more mature, and the ones taht are causing the problem are physically younger and less mature

mastaq

11-04-2002, 01:14 PM

We don't need anymore mods on this forum.. The thing we need to do is police these yougins. All that happens around here is rambunctious pre-pubescent brats running around.. I say we all stop all this flameing bullpoop. Where does it get us? NOWHERE!! If I wanted to see this level of stupidity, then I'd go to a mental institution.

Heres my logic.. TMyApp and Leftyfb work thier asses off.. And all a "select few" do is bitch.. I'm surprised TMy has let those few stick around. It clarely states in the rules.. "NO BITCHING".. Is that so hard to comprehend? I think not..

TMy and lefty take out of thier own pockets to make this game run.. You people only say thank you, when you thought the game was gonna die out. So you mean to tell me that you cry only when it's gonna die? Why not just appreciate the game while it's here....

Like I said before we don't need anymore mods... If people didn't go in a thread and say "nice going retard you just spammed".. I admit even I'm guilty of this. But I deduce people only do that to raise thier post count.. And I'm sincere when I say I have only done that to help people.. I could care less about my post count..

And another issue.. I'm quite frankly sick and tired, of people calling 2k warrior a kiss ass... He defends TMy yes... And he has done this countless times... Even before he became a mod.. Stop trashing the guy.. He's one of the most helpful people in this community. He has brought us more informative details.. Than I can remember...

I'm going to finish this post up by saying.. If you ignore the "new people" then they will do 1 of 2 things... 1 being they will change thier behavior... 2 They will just up and leave.. Think about it if you provoke them... Your only going to make things worse.... I've spoken my piece.. nuff said...
:buttrock:

princevegetam

11-04-2002, 01:25 PM

plan for improvement

tmyapp: never come to this forum unless for important reasons such as learning about bugs and discussing updates. his precious time should be spent on the game and not small problems like forum moderating.

leftyb: come to the forum occasionally to check up on everything, but mostly converses with tmyapp regarding game and helps tmyapp.

quass/zing79: i have no idea why tmyapp keeps these two mdos around, they do not do anything and i don't believe they should continue to be mods. they are too busy with vgmfusion and do not have the time for this forum.

lordcyris: needs to come to the forum more often and moderate more, i can understand if he has a life, but it couldn't hurt to come to this forum and moderate once a week or somethin.

2000warrior/warmor: both needs to come to the forum a little more often, especially warmor. they should go to the non-xmvssf a little more often and moderate more there.

now to conclude my analysis of this situation, i would suggest tmyapp get rid of zing79 and quass, as they seem to no longer hold interest in moderating this forum. then tmyapp should add 1 or 2 more mods to help warmor and 2000warrior.

so basically what i mean in the end once again is:

we need more active mods, we should get rid of the mods that aren't active enough *cough*Quass/zing79*cough*

Nantuko Joe

11-04-2002, 02:55 PM

quass/zing79: i have no idea why tmyapp keeps these two mdos around, they do not do anything and i don't believe they should continue to be mods. they are too busy with vgmfusion and do not have the time for this forum.
For once I agree with princevegetam. Quass and Zing are too busy with VGM, and have not been here in a LONG TIME. If I were TMy, I would replace them with two other responsible individuals for the position of Forum Moderator

Roll

11-04-2002, 03:04 PM

Quote 2000Warrior:
I don't know how this thread got off topic... but it is NOT a thread to promote TMyApp getting more mods. If anyone even cared to read the title, and possibly the actual message that followed after it, it says NOTHING discussing hiring new mods. In fact, it's just this kind of behavior it's preaching against.

This whole concept of "please TMy, add more mods", or even "please, give me mod powers. I'll do a good job", has been tried and refuted time and again (for dam good reasons too). TMyApp has made it plenty clear in the past and future... that he doesn't just hand out modships at anyone who looks like they might be good at it.

If you want to debate about this modship thing... here's a VERY lenghty topic with many good arguments/refrences on each side.... (http://nferno666.sytes.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=6366)

There may have been another one going about the same time.. but I'm too lazy/impatient too look it up...

..anyways, put your posts about this sort of subject in your own topics (which won't last long @ all since TMyApp, leftyfb, and myself to some degree... are here at most the time).
Did you guys not read that, or did you choose to ignore it? Either way, adding more mods to the forum will not help much at all. It just gives us more mods.

princevegetam

11-04-2002, 03:53 PM

read my entire post first. 2000warrior's post was not direct at me or my intended idea. my intended idea is much different than what he is addressing in his previous post.

Roll

11-04-2002, 04:05 PM

so basically what i mean in the end once again is:

we need more active mods, we should get rid of the mods that aren't active enough *cough*Quass/zing79*cough*
Ou, wow. I see something I was refering too.

11-04-2002, 10:57 PM

Roll: Lol... maybe one day they'll start listening to me...

princevegetam: Well, actually I was directing my posts to comments that are EXACTLY like that one. Your whole idea is to get rid of the guys you don't see posting on the forum much. Why? Because you really don't know what's going on behind the scenes.

Let me enlighten you on the subject...

- A little while ago, Quass and Zing79 were planning to host the "other, better" downloadable version at vgmfusion. I have not been aware of the cancellation of this, so I assume they're still planning to do it (eventually).

- Lordcyris has a family, a job, and he's busy as hell. He drops in every now and then and does what he can, but he DOES try to help the community to the best of limited time. (Remember SOF, or even that msg at the bottom of TIB?)

- Warmor... I don't know what's going on with him. Supposedly he's "working" on his comics... either that or he's just a lazy bastard :biggrin:

- 2000warrior: Still waiting to regain ftp acess to Senshuk so he can review the SET, get to work on "updating" the present tournaments section, releasing that "new" feature in Senshuk whenever the next DWX Chronicle is release (or something along those lines), as well as make an Onslaught bio (one day)... and still comes by the forum on a semi-frequent basis.

TMyApp/leftyfb: You KNOW what they're doing.

What I'm trying to say here is... ALL the mods do something outside of the game that "helps out" with the community besides just moderating the forum.

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Everyone else on this whole subject of mods:

Why is it such a difficult concept to grasp that the answer to the forum problem is NOT more mods. I know a lot say "we just need more active mods," but bare with me and look at the past mods for a moment...

- ewalk: First mod, he got it when he was hosting RDB (Ryu's Drunken Brawl), back in late Aug-early Oct. He was easily one of the most active and mature members of the forum. But then guess what happened? He got bored with moderating... and it became more work then fun. So he just quit comming.

- Lordcyris: Got it right after he won Necro2k1's tournament. Another very active member of the forum, and easily respected by all the members. But (I believe) his computer broke, and even after he got it fixed, he was rarely seen on the forum (except for the occasional weeks where mods/vets "try" to make returns). It happens to everyone... you get tired of the "n00bism" and it becomes more work then anything.

- Zing79: He got his early December, after hosting the acclaimed TOC I, with the promise of TOC II, and probabaly had told TMyApp about it by then. And for a month or so... it worked great. He was ever the active mod, and cleaned up the forum. And then he must have gotten tired of the n00bism as all mods do... and just decided to "move on" to vgmfusion.

- Quass: Not sure exactly when Quass became a mod... I think it was April-May. But anyways, he was well on his way to vgmfusion at the time, and only "actively" moderated for about a week after that.

- Warmor: I think Warmor became a mod in June... right around Project Z. But what happened to him? Not really sure, but notice that his activity dropped shortly after he became a mod?

- 2000warrior: I know when this guy became a mod... :biggrin: Some time in August-September. And, he'd been an active poster for months... and was becoming fairly respected at it too. But being a mod took its toll on even him, and like all his predecessors, began having a "more busy" schedule, and just not wanting to deal with the n00bism of the forum after only about a month.

I know some of you will still think "oh, that'll never happen to me", but it will. I never thought I'd get bored of this forum... but you know what? It happens to everybody.

The answer to this is NOT just replacing old mods with new, "fresh" mods, it's getting these old guys off their lazy asses and back onto the forum.

And I would urge furthur discussion on this to be made in a SEPERATE topic. I don't want to start deleting your replys but it could happen if everyone keeps jumping on TMy and lefty's backs about this.

Nantuko Joe

11-05-2002, 05:20 AM

Bah. That still doesn't change the fact that Quass and Zing are unable to moderate at this forum anymore, and need two ppl to replace them.

princevegetam

11-05-2002, 12:50 PM

QUIET_KILLER

11-05-2002, 01:27 PM

[color=blue:post_uid3]Alright I thought this topic.
Was made by leftyfb for a reason.
To let people know that he has gotten tired.
Of all the same remade topic's.
The double triple posting and spamige.
That was going on.
The flaming,the name calling.
So how I wonder did this.
Go into a topic about Mod's.
As well like 2000warrior said
"If you would urge furthur discussion on this to be made in a SEPERATE topic"
Did you read that Joe and Vegetam :biggrin:[/color:post_uid3]
[quote:post_uid3]but it could happen if everyone keeps jumping on TMy and lefty's backs about this.[/quote:post_uid3]

akuma_forever

11-05-2002, 01:38 PM

spam,what a dumb thing......

mastaq

11-05-2002, 01:48 PM

The reason Zing/Quass are still mods is maybe oh I don't know... Maybe they give TMy space for the game... :plain:

Roll

11-05-2002, 03:06 PM

if the mods are all working on something regarding the community, that still doesn't give them the okay to let this forum rot to death! this forum would be a lot better and some mods would be a lot less stressed if the moderating work was more balanced.

and don't attempt to enlighten ME with those facts, i've already known about all of them. but none of those facts can be used as an excuse for leaving this forum to rot and die. what would this game be if the forum was dying?
Oh, Vegetam, shove it. You have no right to speak like that about others. What you were posting right there was even MORE noobism than I could've ever expected. You sounded like Bunmi. You obviously didn't think about what you posted, at least not enough.
The mods have things to do that are very important, just like you and I (think: school). They can't just stop doing what they have to do just to moderate. If they are busy, they are busy. Even if they aren't busy, there are times when you just don't want to do anything at all, or in this case, you want to avoid the "noobish-ness". No matter what, though, they would NOT leave this forum to "rot" on purpose.
Edit: And don't expect them to come on their vacations either, since vacations are a time for relaxation.

princevegetam

11-05-2002, 03:20 PM

if they don't have the time to moderate, why be a mod at all? they should concentrate on the stuff they are working on and let others who have more free time to help with the moderator job.

11-05-2002, 04:12 PM

You guys just don't know when to quit... they're/we're all mods for a reason. We're here, we see your posts, and right now your closer to being part of the problem then then helping find a solution.

I'm tired of this ####. This isn't a "bitch about how little the mods do" topic.

So I'll tell you guys what I am going to do...

If there are ANY posts past this point adressing this mod issue, and discussing even in 1 character that new mods should be hired/old mods should be fired, I'm deleting your post. No edits, the whole godamn thing is gone.

princevegetam

11-05-2002, 04:39 PM

well, after seeing your response to my post, no comment

Roll

11-05-2002, 06:05 PM

[quote:post_uid11="2000warrior"]You guys just don't know when to quit...[/quote:post_uid11]
Oh, what I do... :(

Nantuko Joe

11-06-2002, 04:49 AM

Oh, Vegetam, shove it. You have no right to speak like that about others. What you were posting right there was even MORE noobism than I could've ever expected. You sounded like Bunmi. You obviously didn't think about what you posted, at least not enough.
The mods have things to do that are very important, just like you and I (think: school). They can't just stop doing what they have to do just to moderate. If they are busy, they are busy. Even if they aren't busy, there are times when you just don't want to do anything at all, or in this case, you want to avoid the "noobish-ness". No matter what, though, they would NOT leave this forum to "rot" on purpose.
Edit: And don't expect them to come on their vacations either, since vacations are a time for relaxation.
Actually, THAT made the most sense out of all the posts from this page and page 8. So YOU shove it

You guys just don't know when to quit... they're/we're all mods for a reason. We're here, we see your posts, and right now your closer to being part of the problem then then helping find a solution.

I'm tired of this ####. This isn't a "bitch about how little the mods do" topic.

So I'll tell you guys what I am going to do...

If there are ANY posts past this point adressing this mod issue, and discussing even in 1 character that new mods should be hired/old mods should be fired, I'm deleting your post. No edits, the whole godamn thing is gone.

Wow. Just goes to show how sour ppl get when they're losing an argument. Especially this part:
You guys just don't know when to quit... they're/we're all mods for a reason. We're here, we see your posts, and right now your closer to being part of the problem then then helping find a solution.
THen what exactly is the reason Zing and Quass are still here? And even if they did give TMy space for the game or something, what good is a fcuking title when they're not here to exert the powers of being a mod and moderating?

And even if you DO delete this post, that's also making some progress. Because in deleting this post, 2000warrior, you would have done the first moderating action that any of the mods have done in months. SO in a way, congratu-fcuking-lations. :angry:

princevegetam

11-06-2002, 12:37 PM

um... calm down a little nantuko. 2000warrior doesn't like arguing about this matter(*cough*cause he's losing*cough*) so i guess we'll just have to accept that.

KidKrazyShit

11-06-2002, 12:49 PM

I don't understand why you ppl are posting what you think should be done because it doesn't matter what you think, it's up to TMy and TMy alone.

princevegetam

11-06-2002, 01:13 PM

it's suggestions and advice to help tmyapp make his decision

QUIET_KILLER

11-06-2002, 01:59 PM

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Alright you people are wrong.
For picking on one another.
Also roll you did not have to tell the guy shove it.
Vegetam make a new topic even though it said this 3 times.

Also Roll don't get yourself flamed.
Check on your topic music request aight.
If you had to agree with vegetam people.
Fine at least you could have said so.
Instead of telling people to shove it back where it began...

So you think you can make tmyappz think otherwise huh?
Vegetam by posting in this topic.
That was for the rules alone.
Also if this begins to turn into a Debate about Modship and other things?
Post's like 2000warrior said are going to be deleted.
:lol: I think people like him and above had a lot of patience.
With where this is going til the bitching began.

Futhermore you and a few people should have read.
What I 2000warrior said and what I quoted.
If you people want to talk about this.
Make another topic a seperate one.

Now 2000warrior is only defending.
What he know's as the truth.
Also those people are busy with life as well.
Now also any way in some.
Sort of shape or form they have done.
Some oustanding thing for the online community.

Such as Zing/Quass the ones with the mod status at this forum.
They gave Temporary hosting for the game on VGMFUSION!!!..
Warmor he just edited a few thing's last month.
He did his Job got what maybe.
3 or 4 posts added to his name.
He is also probably busy with his comic and Job.
Also probably as most Mods do work behind the scene's.

Hey well at some point or another.
They got tired of like 2000warrior said.
Of being Mod's having to deal with ####ism.

Also Most of the other Mod's.
Are up there for a reason.
Those reason's are known only.
To tmyapp and as well leftyfb.
So if any ones say is important it is there's.
Actually the reason's are known to most who can READ!!!

Yeah some people think.
It will never happen to them if they became Mod's :biggrin:
If that doesn't occur right about by then.
What about college you may be thinking about it.
What about work your key to survival.
As well the thing's that come into that effect.

Anyway tis tmyappz Idea alone? Cough*
I thought leftyfb had a say in it :lol:
Anyway quit trying to be the solution.
Like some one said that is causing you to be the problem.
As well start trying to think.
Of solution's to help out around heya!!!! :biggrin:[/color:post_uid3]