Who's top tier in sfo?

[LiQuiDSRK]

I haven't played in ahwhile. I jus wanna know who's top tier. and counter characters if there are any.

[SSJKarma]

No Top tier, it all depends on who is playing, TIERS are just a fairy tale !

[Mr. Big]

yes there are tiers; according to tarkan, ask him about it.

[SSJKarma]

won't start at this discussion again, i'll just continu to say that TIERS are poor excuses for losers who can't take a lost without a real reason !

[MIG]

haven't got a clue, i would like to know as well, but it would need all of the characters stats to make a tier list, which i dont have.


and karma, as long as there are differences in characters there will be tiers. they only show which character has a slight advantage, like cyc|ops vs ryu, cyc|ops has an advantage even without being cheap because his beams have priority over ryu's hadoukens. wolver

[pip99]

If there was

a laggy ryu comes out on top. on this

[DA_VIPA]

no..cheap sents own everyone..its impossible to beat em while the sent force is hittin ya throwin u into a beam or rocket punch.

[pip99]

no..cheap sents own everyone..its impossible to beat em while the sent force is hittin ya throwin u into a beam or rocket punch.
Yeah LoL i was just sayin that my sent owns all.

muhahhahaa ;)

[abc123test]

Sent. can rape a Ryu, Why? Ryu is mostly used on the ground. A Sent., will knock the Ryu into the air with a "rocket punch." Once a Ryu is knocked into the air by a Sent. it is very hard to get out of, due to all of the Sents. air moves. The best way to beat a Sent. with a Ryu, is get close to him and do your "Super Tornado Kick." Well, thats what I call the move, once a Sent. is in the super it is hard for him to get out due to his size. When the specil is done, you need to stick to low moves and try to stay close.

That is a stratigy I use.

[chicken_wing]

Well that wont work on mines and pip's sent since they both pwn.
If this game had charlie or dan they'll both be on the top ;)

So far I'll say Sent it at the top since his the fastest and his moves takes a chunk of your life :biggrin:



Edited By chicken_wing on Feb. 24 2004 at 15:58

[pip99]

Well that wont work on mines and pip's sent since they both pwn.
If this game had charlie or dan they'll both be on the top ;)

So far I'll say Sent it at the top since his the fastest and his moves takes a chunk of your life :biggrin:
1st sentence TRUE.

[SSJKarma]

TIERS donot exists...

why ? because it would include that one is th ebest, which we all know isn't possible to be the best !
there is always people stronger then us.

its all a matter of who you like and who you are best playing with !

example:
SYCLOPS may have priority beam wise, but RYU have lots more priority over cyc|ops moves !
so this is making them even cause if the ryu user is good wnough. he can simply kjump forward toward cyc|ops, passing thru cyc|ops beam while blocking and then kick him in the face, reguardless of what cyc|ops will do, ryu will sucessfully land the kick unless cyc|ops dodges or block the hit !

see, all characters have their pros and Cons. none are better then the others, its all a matter of who is playing and how many errors they'll do during the fight !

that's why tiers are just a fairy tales... its like saying pip99 will win the sent of death tourney just because you never fought anyone else playing with sent ! its just non-sens ! he may win it, but we will only know th eanswer when this is all gonna be over.

IF doesn't mean anything !
example:
you do a shinkuu hadouken, but you miss, the guy kicks you back and KO you...

you say IF i had done the SHINKUU TATSU instead i would have won.

but the question this brings is... Would your oppoonent do thew same if you had done the other super ?
that you don't know and there is no fliping way to know that since its not what hapenned !

so again, how can TIERS exists, if all the game is about are your playability with the charcaters and the number of errors you,ll do during the match ?

only conclusion possible, TIERS do not exists.

[TarkanX]

Tiers exist, that's why people use characters more than other, Karma, get it through your head, it's logic. In MvC2, Magneto is better than Roll (This being that the 2 players are at the same skill level and know the general terms of the game, like combos, etc...).

In sports there are tiers, that's why some teams are always losers for consecutive seasons, while other teams are pereniall playoff teams and eventual champions.

In Dragonball Z there are tiers because one is stronger than another.

It's logic, Karma, one that you don't seem to get.



Edited By TarkanX on Feb. 25 2004 at 03:33

[SSJKarma]

there is no tiers !
in TV shows, its normal to have one stronger then the others, after all, there would be no heroes and that would make the TV show more boring then it is !

in MvsC2 none is better, why because there is no 1 on 1 int here its always a 3 on 3 !
so ya can't compared one char to another... roll in MvsC2 has all her chances against the rest because its a 3 on 3 ! same goes to everyone else !

yet again...
how come a team in any sports is winning one season and not the other, without it having changed at all ?

see, its all a matter of errors, feelings and the way the guy behind the controllers are, no the characters on screen !

you speak as in the guy behind the controllers didn't have anything to do with it. but this is BS. the charcater do not move on its own, you are th eone making it move, so why would th echarcater be stronger when its you who makes him be that strong in the first place !

example:
you don't know how to play with magneto and but you really kick butt with ROLL. who are you gonna play with ? surely you won't pick magneto knowing you will lose. so again. tiers do not exists. its you who make it up to proove some things that cannot be prooven.

scientifically speaking, numbers on a sheet, moves on a sheet doesn't mean anything, they means what you want them to mean, nothing else !

example:
you take STORM, fighting me who is SERVBOT... how is flying gonna be any help to you if i always stay on the ground ?

like i said, each charcaters have their pros and cons, but its all a matter of who is playing and how they'll play that will make the difference ! nothing else !

[abc123test]

I have to say SSJkarma is right, there are no tiers in the game. As he said "the charcaters do not move on its own, you are the one making it move, so why would the charcater be stronger when its you who makes him be that strong in the first place !"

[SBYRD5]

Laggy Evil Ryu...is top Tier....

[Bob~Marley4004]

sent with his cheap a**..even though i like to play with him :biggrin:

[MIG]

so karma, are you saying that chun-li stands a chance against sp

[SSJKarma]

yeah she does have a lot of chances !

- 3X jumps equal more chances to get him...
- air lightning kick equal even more damage dealt
- Jump Blocks give her the chance to get past anything coming at her !

in any case, the attacks of a charcaters aren't what makes em balanced or not !
The player playing the character does.
i mean how can a character have any advantage over another when they all have the very same defensive system which is usually made to counter every single move int he game !

example:
STORM may have an INFINITE combo compared to servbot who doesn't... but if the SERVBOT GUY blocks her first hit... where will his supreme combo go ? answer, directly to the toilet !

another example:
STORM starts flying...
SERVBOTS super jumps right at her and starts an AIR combo on her !
What has her supreme ability to fly did ?
answer, nothing she got caugh because super jumps able other chars to catch flying chars as well !

see, how can a char not be balanced when whatever he does, a counter to it can be made !

it's like saying the WRESTLING art of fighting is better then any other MARTIAL ARTS, its just impossible, all have their pros and their cons !

[pip99]

[quote:post_uid0="MIG"]so karma, are you saying that chun-li stands a chance against sp

[vx_unicom]

Top tier.............what top tie?!??